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Episode Date: January 22, 2019Robert Mueller disputes the accuracy of a Buzzfeed article, Dulce Sloan discusses Martin Luther King Jr.'s legacy, and Patty Jenkins talks about "I Am the Night." Learn more about your ad-choices at ...https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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I'm Trevor Noah, our guest tonight.
The director behind Wonder Woman,
here to talk about her new limited series, I am the night.
Patty Jenkins is here, everyone. So, what do Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Pornhub, and MegaHats all have in common?
Well, they're all on tonight's show, so let's catch up on today's headlines.
This was a crazy weekend.
First up, Winter Storm Harper crashed into the East Coast, bringing with its single-digit
temperatures and more snow than Lindsay Lohan's Beach Club.
The world of sports was also crazy.
And the NFL conference championships,
the Saints lost, the Patriots won.
And both games went into overtime.
And speaking of overtime,
the government shutdown is now on day 31.
And since the majority of Americans are blaming President Trump for the stalemate, this weekend the Commander in Peach offered Democrats a compromise.
The president offered protection from deportation for some refugees
and immigrants brought here by their undocumented parents.
For three years, that in exchange for his original $5.7 billion wall funding demand.
The White House wall language is also softening from this campaign roar.
We're going to build a wall, folks, precast concrete, going very high.
To this downsize description.
This is not a 2,000-mile concrete structure from sea to sea.
These are steel barriers in high priority locations.
You know, when Trump said he was a master negotiator,
I didn't believe him, but now I see it.
Because you realize, since the shutdown,
the Democrats haven't budged,
but every day he's come out and negotiated himself
further away from what he originally wanted, right?
Every single day.
First, he said it was a concrete wall, and then he said it's just made out of steel slats,
and now it's only a certain section of the border where you need it.
Like Nancy Pelosi is just sitting there silently and Trump is wearing himself down.
He's like, I want a wall. Okay, Nancy, I'll take a fence.
Oh, you're playing hard. Well, how about a two-foot baby gate?
Nothing? Just give me one slat with a the sign with with with with with with a slaad with with with a slaad with a the slaat with a the slaat with a two-foot baby gate? Nothing, just give me one slag with a sign that says no.
But it's no surprise that the president is getting desperate.
You see, every day, every single day, the government is shut down.
The negative effects continue to pile up.
Law enforcement officials don't have money to do their job.
Furlowed federal staffers are now relying on food banks, and thousands of government workers are sitting at home with nothing to do.
Well, I mean, they found one thing to do.
The adult website Pornhub says it has seen an increase in usage in the Washington, D.C.
the partial government shutdown began.
Pornhub says data from the week of January 7 to January 11th shows visits to the site
were up 6%
that's right DC has been watching more porn since the shutdown began and you
know my things people assume it's because government workers are staying at
home but it could also be because one government worker who's usually at
Maralago this time of year has stayed in DC yeah and now look I'm not saying
that the president of the United States is jacking off, all right? But I'm saying if he
was jacking off, he would do it like this. Oh and speaking of the president's
porn, Fox and Friends, this morning after they came back from an ad break,
they gave everyone some surprising news, especially surprising if you were a Supreme Court justice with the initials
R.B.G.
Just go to hurry roll.com and enter this code. Ready, set, roll. Hurry roll.
A college professor taking a stand against the lack of diverse viewpoints on campuses
during a TED Talk.
We need to apologize.
At the beginning of Ainsley's interview with the professor, a technical error in the
control room triggered a graphic of Ruth Bader Ginsburg with a date on it.
We don't want to make it seem anything other than that that was a mistake, that was an accident. We believe she is still at home, recovering from surgery.
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Everybody danced now, no, no, no.
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And finally, in headlines,
the 2020 presidential election.
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Senator Kamala Harris today announced her plans to run for president in 2020 the California Democrats said she plans to fight what she sees as the
injustices of the Trump presidency. Do you have an announcement you'd like to make? I am running for president in the United States
Well, and I'm very excited about it. I love that one person
in the background. Yeah. This is amazing. Kamala Harris is officially running
for president. This is big. Because you realize she is now the third big
name senator running for president and they're all women. Yeah, which is really cool.
It's really cool. It also makes you wonder what is going on in the Senate that all the women are trying
to leave.
Why?
Is Al Franken coming back?
Huh?
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She'll be joining me here at this desk on Thursday for another audience.
All right, let's move on to our main story.
Fake news.
According to the president, it's even more dangerous than Mexicans. But usually, when President Trump says fake news, what he's to to to to is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is to is to is to is to is to is to is to is to the president, it's even more dangerous than Mexicans.
But usually, when President Trump says fake news, what he's referring to is real news that
he just doesn't like.
You know, like news that his campaign colluded with Russia, or news that Eric is his son.
But this weekend, there were two stories that were at least fake-ish.
And the first story broke on Thursday nights. BuzzFeed reported that President Trump directed his lawyer Michael Cohen to lie to Congress.
And this report was a huge bombshell, because lying to Congress is definitely an impeachable offense.
But just as Democrats were about to impeach the mother, Robert Mueller stepped in to set the record straight.
Breaking news, a rare and stunning move from the special counsel tonight.
Robert Mueller's team disputing an explosive BuzzFeed report
alleging the president told Michael Cohen to lie to Congress.
You have the special counsel, essentially for the first time putting out a public statement.
We almost never hear from Robert Mueller's office.
When you say rare, boy, there has not been a time when the special counsel has gone out
of its way to publicly challenge a media report.
That's right.
Robert Muller, aka Mr. Witch Hunt himself, released a statement saying the BuzzFeed story
about Michael Cohen was not accurate.
And this is a huge deal, because you realize Mueller never comments on anything.
It also means that Robert Mueller reads Buzzfeed, which
means he takes those quizzes, which makes me wonder what Hogwarts house he's in.
I mean it's probably Griffith or no, no, probably Ravencloth. Yeah, imagine if he's in
Hufflepuff. That would be so weird. Sorry, where was I? Anyway, Special Counselor Robert
Mueller, you know, he just popped out. Pop out like God in the Bible. Came out of nowhere, said something cryptic,
and left everyone trying to figure out what it means.
And for Trump, it means that he has a new best friend.
I appreciate the special counsel coming out with a statement last night.
I think it was very appropriate that they did so.
I very much appreciate that. Really? Really, Trump, after two- of slamming Mullah, one friendly statement from him
and all of a sudden Trump is cool with him?
I think now Mullah knows how to get Trump to testify.
It should be like, Mr. President, I need to interview you.
And Trump be like, no, be like, hey, have you been working out?
Be like, meet me at 3.30 behind the KFC.
I'll tell you everything. Now, even though Robert Mala of House Ravencloth disputed the Buzzfeed story, Buzzfeed
and its reporters are not backing down.
Buzzfeed reporter Anthony Cormier, who contributed to the piece, is defending the story as
solid and accurate.
I have further confirmation that this is right. We're being told to stand our ground.
This is, this is, our reporting is going to be borne out to be accurate and we're 100% behind it.
The editor in chief of BuzzFeed News said he is eager to get more details from the special
counsel's office on what portions of this story it's disputing as inaccurate.
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We've heard that Trump paid Putin and Bitcoin to hack the elections?
Mullahs like it wasn't Bitcoin, it was cash.
Damn it! Well played, BuzzFeed.
You got me.
So the truth is, we still is it the whole thing, is it a sentence, is it a semicolon,
when do you even use those things, how do they work?
We don't know.
What we do know is the media got something wrong in the story
because Robert Mueller doesn't speak for no reason.
The guy never speaks.
Like, we don't even Mouse. We don't know. Yeah, he could come out with a report
and be like, oh boy, obstruction of justice. We have no clue. Wouldn't it be hilarious
if we found out Robert Moller had a Jamaican accent? Like, the whole time we didn't
know and then he just comes and I'll find tons a collusion between Trump, Trump and them Russians, this concludes the investigation
blap.
But you're going to do not in Congress because the them got a Republican senator, you
bomb a clad, mud out!
It'll be amazing.
So, after BuzzFeed sent cable news into a frenzy.
The lesson was, don't rush to report stories
you haven't confirmed yourself. And really I don't think it's just the news media
that needs to be more skeptical because there was another story that went
viral online this weekend and it turns out we all got this one wrong.
The video is from Friday's Indigenous Peoples March in Washington.
The students from Covington Catholic High School can be seen jeering and chanting at a
drummer who was an elder from the Omaha tribe.
The viral video sweeping the internet of a mob of Maga hat-wearing high school students
surrounding a Native American chanting and drumming in the nation's capital.
It is disturbing.
Students mocking a Native American man.
Some of them harassing and jeering at a Native American elder.
The situation came to a head when that young man there,
wearing a Make America Great Again hat,
got right in his face and didn't move.
Now, I'm not gonna lie.
When I saw the story, I was horrified.
I was like, I can't watch something so disrespectful to Native Americans. I'm just gonna watch the chiefs tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha the the the the tha the the tha the the the the the the the the the the thea' thea' thea' thea' thia' the thea' thea' theateateateateateateathea' theathea' theathea' theathea' their. theirnenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenene. the. the. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. tooea. t. t. tooeateateateateateateateateateateateateatea. to Native Americans. I'm just going to watch the chief's game instead.
But this story set cable news and social media alight, right?
A group of Maga Hat wearing teenagers surrounded and harassed a Native American elder.
And this story got so big that even the mayor of the student's hometown denounced them.
And not in like a cool Bart Simpson denouncing way, like real denouncing.
And then, more video of the incident came out.
The new video has emerged giving a different perspective and a deeper look at a controversial encounter
between a white high school student and an elderly Native American man.
A different video surface Sunday that showed what happened before the encounter.
A radical group of protesters called black Hebrew Israelites taunted the boys for more
than an hour with racist and homophobic abuse.
A bunch of incest babies.
A bunch of incest babies.
A bunch of babies.
A bunch of babies made out of incest.
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chaperones for permission to begin school spirit chants to counter the hateful things that were
being shouted at our group. And they do. At one point a student removes his shirt and the chance
drown everything out. Two minutes later you hear a drumbeat. The kids dance to it.
They began chanting along.
Phillips, a Vietnam veteran, walks around.
Other students, avoid him.
Until you see him come face to face
with the student who has now gone viral.
So you see all of a sudden, with a little more information,
the story is not as clear-cut.
It's not a simple story about one person being a dick to someone.
It's a complex story about a group of people being dicks to each other.
Because, yes, it is true that that kid had a smug look on his face
that made you want to take him over the knee and spank him with his own lacrosse dick.
But it's not true that he and his crew surrounded the Native American, right?
The Native American got in his face.
And also, a big part of the story everyone missed initially was that the kids only started
chanting in response to a weird religious cult who were also there are shouting slurs
at them.
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And look, I know it's easy to get caught up in news stories
that hit a nerve, but I think everyone would benefit
if we all just slow down at times, you know?
You don't always have to be first.
It's more important to be right.
So news media, just breathe, right. Breathe. That guy had Fox News in charge of the Ruth Bader Ginsburg button? Breathe.
And most importantly, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, please breathe.
We'll be right back.
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We're going to be talking about the election, earnings calls. What are they talking about on
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Welcome back to the Daily Show.
Today is Martin Luther King, Jr. Day.
A day when Americans celebrate a civil rights icon. And Americans who don't get off work, you know, they celebrate an easier commute.
Yeah, I got through the tunnel in seven minutes.
Thank you, Dr. King.
And over the weekend, everyone was getting into the MLK spirit, even America's whitest
man.
One of my favorite quotes from Dr. King was, now is the time to make real the promises of democracy. You think of how he changed America.
He inspired us to change through the legislative process, to become a more perfect union.
That's exactly what President Trump is calling on the Congress to do.
Through the legislative process?
I think Mike Pence just skipped over the whole protesting and getting beaten up part.
He was like, that's what Martin Luther King wanted us to do.
Like I never watched the trailer for Salma and thought, oh man, that looks like some intensive
legislative process, yeah.
For more on Dr. King's legacy, we turn now to Dulce Sloan, everybody.
Hey, man. Don't say, if Martin Luther King were here, where do you think he would stand on the government shutdown?
I think you would stand inside because it's too damn cold.
Why is Martin Luther King Day and the Coldest Day of the Year?
I mean, why can't we celebrate him in July then we can, you know, march outside and have a cookout?
But then it wouldn't be on his birthday.
Oh, so a black man can't have two birthdays?
It's 2019, Trevor, I thought we'd move past this.
What? I didn't know that was a civil rights?
Anyway, never mind.
Okay.
While you're endorsed today, what do you think
and what are you remembering about Dr. King's legacy?
You know what I want to remember? real Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, not the white-washed hallmark version. Because every year people talk about the same stuff, the I Have a Dream speech, the March
on Washington, how he had the voice of a Scooby-Doo ghost.
I have a dream.
And I would have gotten away with it too if it worked for those meddling kids. But the real Dr. King did not fit in any box.
White moderates think he would have been on their side, but he thought they were worse for the civil rights movement than the clan.
And mattress stores are out here having MLK Day sales, but Dr. King was anti-capitalist.
And even though he was a reverent and a man of God, he allegedly had a whole bunch of affairs.
Whoa, hold on, hold on. Even if that's true, I mean, that he had affairs,
isn't it disrespectful to mention that on his birthday?
I don't think so.
It's part of his legacy.
A reminder that our heroes aren't perfect, their people.
And I'm not being disrespectful.
Just the opposite.
MOK was out there getting them.
And probably still could. I mean, if he showed up on my bumble, I'd take him to the
mountain top and the valley load.
I've never thought of MLK on Bumble.
Well, he wouldn't be on tender. They may have had class.
If everyone knew that fighting for civil rights could get you some, a lot more people
would fight for equality, equal pay, voting rights, and whoever can stop black people from
getting shot by the police, well, fuck to night.
Okay?
I'll show up. I'll show up, all right?
Now first you get a million in the streets,
then you get a million in the sheets.
Don't say Sloan, everybody.
We'll be right back.
Welcome back to the day show.
My guest tonight is the critically acclaimed director of Wonder Woman and the upcoming
sequel, Wonder Woman, 1984.
She also executive produced and directed the first two episodes of the new TNT limited series I am the Knight. Please welcome Patty Jenkins.
Welcome to the show. Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you. Wow. Welcome to the show. Thank you. I have been a fan of your work from Monster.
I remember the movie with Charlesteron.
It blew my mind, and that was the first time I heard of your work as a director.
But you've been in the game for a very long time.
Yeah.
In fact, is it true?
I heard a rumor that you will once offered a position at the Daily Show? It's true. One of the first, so when I first started working in film,
I was PAing on commercials and looking for other jobs.
And one of the very first jobs I was offered
was on the first season, I believe, of the Daily Show,
which we knew nothing about as a PA or something.
Right.
But I was already starting to do camera work and getting paid more. So I was like, well, I'll the the the the the the the thua thua. thua. thua. thuui. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the thi. th. th. th. th. th. to to thi. thi. to to to do. too. too. too. too. And one. And one too. And one. And one. And one. And one. And one. And one. And one. And one. And one. And one. And one. And one. And one. And one. And one. And one. And one. And one. And one. And one. And one. And one. And one. And one. And the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the the t. t. t. t. t. t. t. the t. t. the t. t. the t. together. to. to. to.'m doing. And the money, yeah. But it was one of those many decisions that years later,
I was like, my God, I really like that show.
I kind of feel regretful now.
Oh, no.
Are you kidding?
I don't think you can regret anything.
No, no, I'm happy.
I'm perfectly happy.
Yeah, your journey. critically acclaimed movie, it was a box office smash, right? You directed that.
Yes, that was amazing.
Very lucky.
Thank you.
No, it truly was.
And this is something I always wanted to.
This is a selfish question for myself only.
Do you think that there is something in how a woman can direct a scene differently
from a man in how you see the beauty and moments that maybe we don't.
Because like, there's the fight scene on the beach.
And I don't know if anyone else experienced this.
I was in the cinema and we're watching that scene, you know, and you've got all these soldiers
who are coming on the beach and then you've got all of, you know, a wonder woman,
woombent. like a sad cry, it was like a cry of like amazement and then I asked, I asked the woman next to me, I was like, why are you crying? And she's like, I've never seen this before. I've never seen us just
kicking ass like this in a moment and it was, it was a beautiful different scene. It was a fight
scene that was different. Do you think that for too long people haven't realized that there
is something special that having different directors can directors directors directors directors directors directors directors directors directors directors directors directors directors directors that that that having different directors can have and bring to a movie? Yeah, definitely. The interesting thing is like the history of story has been many different types of
people telling different kinds of stories.
But in the last hundred years in Hollywood, it's been like a very set group of people telling
a very similar story, and it gets a little played out at times.
The interesting thing about making Wonder Woman to me is I don't think of myself as a woman director, but of course I am a woman, I see things slightly differently.
And when I approached those exact scenes, I was really trying to feel like what's exciting
to me and what's, you know, what feels right and there were all of these fascinating things
like headbut, and I was like, Wonder Woman would never head butt.
She doesn't glory in putting someone down. She's taking them out. No problem.
But it's a different way of fighting.
What was amazing to me was, of course,
I was following that barometer.
But then to see women, so many women said to me afterwards,
I thought I didn't like action movies.
And then I saw that, which was an interesting point, because that maybe that's that's that's that seeing the storyline is not something you relate with your thing,
but who doesn't feel panicked in a moment
and wish that they could save the day?
We all do.
Right.
Everybody does.
So yeah, it was really interesting that way.
What was really amazing was that the film was met with,
I mean, just so much love and respect, And you had only signed on for one movie, right? And you already had an idea for a sequel, but you hadn't signed on for that.
And so when the next movie came around and it was time to negotiate, you were like, I want
my money.
Yes.
No, I love that.
No, I love that.
I love that so much.
I really, I actually, I felt, I felt, it's interesting to make money that way, right, because I've never thought of myself as someone I'm an artist. I didn't set out to be about money. However, I took it
very seriously and felt very strongly that it was my duty, if not me who, if not
me who, to, and Charlies has had to do the same moments, to be the person who says, you know, we don't have a chance to build up to the same thing, but thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thr, thr, thr, thr, thr, thr, thr, thr, thr, thr, thr, thr, thr, thr, thr, thr, th, th, th, thr, thr, thr, thr, thr, thr, tho, tho, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thr, thr, thr, thr, thr, thr, thr, thr, to to thr, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to, to to to, to to to to to to to to to to be an equal pay situation. So yeah, it was interesting. I was so grateful to be
supported by Warner Brothers and and it was, you know, it was a great moment to
have that happened. I'm genuinely, yeah, I'm excited. It was phenomenal. I was
like, you need to make all the money because the movie was amazing. I I can't wait for the sequel. And now, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was a to the the th. to th. th th th to th to the the th th to the the to the the to the the the the the the different world. You know, watching the series, I remember seeing the billboards of, you know, and it's like,
what is the story going to be about?
And it is a wild story, but it's also based on a true story.
Yeah.
How did you, how did you come about the story?
So a friend of mine said about 10 years ago, I've met this okay, cool. And he like, I think he said a few different little descriptives just enough to make me sit down with her.
Right.
And we had a meal, and I sat down with a woman, Fana Hodel.
And when she started to tell me her story,
it was like my jaw dropped.
I had never heard anything like it.
And then as soon as I would hear one thing, the next thing, the next, the next, the next, the next, the next, the next, the next, the next, the next, the next, the next, the next, the next, the next, the next, the next, the next, the next, the next, the next, the next, the next, the next, the next, the next I the next, the next, the next, the next, the next, the next next the next next the next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next the next the next the next the next the next the next the next the next the next the next the next chapter the next chapter the next chapter the next chapter the next chapter the next chapter the next chapter the next chapter the next chapter the next chapter the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the next chapter the next chapter the next chapter, the next chapter the next chapter, the were dropping, it was even more mind-blowing. So it's such a dark and terrifying story in certain ways
that at first I was worried about it
and thought, oh my god, do I really want to take this on?
But I couldn't stop talking about it.
I couldn't stop thinking about it.
I couldn't stop, you know, thinking about her.
And the way that she had found
out about herself, she said, that's probably true. And there was something so interesting,
identity has become an interesting hot topic now, but even then sitting there and looking at her
and seeing how this woman single-handedly said, my identity will not define me.
Doesn't matter what the descriptives are. Maybe the worst possible thing is true about me. I'm living my life.
So the positivity of that kept me hooked.
So I tried to make it back then,
but no one was quite doing limited series yet.
And so all these years later,
I had stayed in touch with Fana
and remained friends with her.
And other people were trying're the one please. And I ended up telling Chris Pine about it, and Chris's head just exploded, as everyone's
does when you hear the story.
And so one thing led to another, my husband is a great noir and, you know, fiction writer
and he, he suddenly, we all just started talking about it, and he said, you know, there were all of these other characters, there's this very interesting way actually to tell, to the, to the, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, so, and, and, and, and, so, so, the, and, and, the, and, and, and, I, I, I, I, I, and, I, I, I, I, I, and, I, I.....a, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, you.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.....a..... the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the, the, this very interesting way actually to tell it and it just kind of took off. It really is a story that captures the imagination.
Because I really would say you should watch, I don't want to give anything away that tips
the story, but it's a fascinating tale of a woman who thinks her entire life that she
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she learns thin here thiaughed but you're in this world where as you
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What do you think drove her?
I don't know.
She's a very, she was a very,
she sadly passed away last year.
She was a very strong and powerful person.
As powerful as her grandfather had been as a force of dark.
She was a positive force of light.
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is that when she described herself to me,
here she was in these incredible circumstances,
had grown up so the furthest away from high society
in Los Angeles.
And suddenly she was infiltrating this world,
and she said, I always felt like I was the investigator
in a noir novel, but I was a 16-year-old girl. That fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated fascinated th fasc fasc fasc fasc fasc fasc fasc fasc fasc fasc fasc fasc fasc. I was the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th, she she she she she she she she was, she was, she was, she was, she was, she was, she was, th, th, th, th, she was, th, th, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was a 16-year-old girl. I was like a young woman. That fascinated me of like telling this kind of story
through this lens.
Then there's the Black Dahlia murder, which I'm a true crime buff.
I heard a thousand times and always been kind of like, maybe, maybe,
when her story suddenly ran right into that,
it blew my mind. And for the first time, I heard, I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I th, I, I thi, I thi, I thi, thi, thi, thi, the, the, thed, th. th. thi, thi, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the the the th.... the, the, the, the, thr, thr. thr. thrown. thrown. too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, told, the. thea, thr. the. the felt very certain was real, because it just tracked and made perfect sense.
So yeah, it's deeply scary, but it's an interesting story
about the fortitude of the spirit,
despite what you find.
Yeah, it really is a gripping story.
And it's interesting to see you playing between the different mediums.
So you're directing films, like mega blockbuster films, and you also directing limited series on TV. Is there a space that you operate within,
or do you think like the industry has blurred now? Has it just become a space where you can
direct wherever and it doesn't mean anything anymore, really? Yeah, I definitely think that the crossover
has been better. When I first went from directing Monster to Arrest a much, much more questionable. You know, people were like, why are you doing that? Well, I love the show.
Right.
And so that was why I did it.
But, but I feel like more and more feature directors
have crossed over.
For me, I just want to do things that I think are great.
I love both.
I love the short term of television versus the Wonder Woman's take three years, three and a half years. Wow. That's a serious commitment and it has to be your life force and everything, you know.
So I like both.
This limited series was more feature-like than it was television, but I just want to be involved
in stories that I think are great and I think I have a shot at being deeply passionate
about and doing some good work. I think you're doing more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the the the thi thi the thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. thi. thi're doing more than just good work. You're doing amazing work. Thank you so much for being on the show.
We love everything that you're doing.
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