The Daily Show: Ears Edition - America Learned Nothing from the Spanish Flu Disaster | Esther Perel
Episode Date: July 24, 2020Trevor compares America's handling of the Spanish flu and COVID-19, Desi Lydic checks in on her uncle Rudy, and Esther Perel discusses her podcast "Where Should We Begin." Learn more about your ad-ch...oices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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there was nothing like it.
This is 60 Minutes.
It's a kind of a magazine for television.
Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives.
You're rolling.
But that's all about to change.
Like none of this stuff gets looked at.
That's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News.
Listen to 60 Minutes, a second look,
starting September 17th, wherever you get your podcasts.
Hey, everybody.
Welcome to the Daily Social Distancing Show.
I'm Trevor Noah.
It is Thursday, the 23rd of July.
And as you can see, although some people have gone back to the office, I'm still here filming the show from my apartment.
Because you see, I paid for the business edition of Zoom and God damn it, I'm going to get
my money's worth.
Anyway, on tonight's episode, the Spanish flu is back.
Desilite checks in on her uncle Rudy, and America gets its first racist president.
So, let's do this people people. Welcome to the Daily Social Distancing Show.
From Trevor's Couch in New York City to your couch somewhere in the world.
This is the Daily Social Distancing Show with Trevor Noah.
Ears Edition.
Let's kick things off with coronavirus.
The only thing living its best life in 2020.
Over the past 24 hours, multiple states, including Texas and Florida, reported record COVID-19 fatalities.
And for everyone who's asking what America is doing wrong, well, one viral photo might offer a clue.
A tale of two countries, this picture is going viral for highlighting the difference in COVID-19 responses between the United States and Canada.
At the top of your screen, a packed American tour boat at Niagara Falls carrying hundreds
of people.
You can see them in blue ponchos.
The bottom is a Canadian one carrying just a half dozen tourists.
They're the ones in red.
The images show the two vessels passing each other earlier this month.
Yep.
Apparently while Canadian boats at Niagara Falls
have a passenger limit of six people,
American boats are just bawling out.
I mean, just look at how all of those Americans
are packed together on that boat.
I'm not even sure if that's missed from the waterfall.
That could just be everyone coughing.
Now, obviously I'm joking,
all right.
Those people might be safe because they're outdoors in the mist and the wind. I don't know. But still, this photo really is a metaphor for how differently the US is treating this
pandemic from all other countries. I mean, of all the things to risk dying for, looking
at a waterfall is the worst choice. Until there's a vaccine, stick to the rivers and the lakes that you're used to. I will say though, I also feel like Canada is a th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thee. ttot, toge. toge. toge. toge. toge. toge. toge. th. toge. th. the. th. rivers and the lakes that you're used to. I will say though, I also feel like Canada is being a little too safe. I mean, come on, you guys have free health care. Live a little.
And by the way, keeping boats from being overcrowded isn't the only thing Canada is doing to stop
the spread of corona. The CDC in the Canadian province of British Columbia just released
official health guidelines tell to try using glory holes for safer.. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to to the to to the the to to the to to the to to to toelling Canadians to try using glory holes for safer
sex. Because they say the wall stops you from breathing on each other, but the hole keeps
the magic happening. And if ever there was a sign, this is how you know coronavirus is
really bad. When doctors are like, okay, go stick your dick in a wall, it'll save lives.
Now look, I don't know about glory holes.
But my personal advice is, if you want to be real safe,
everyone needs to have sex the same way Mike Pence does.
What you do is, you go in the bedroom first,
and then you lock the door behind you
so nobody else can come in.
Sex.
Oh, and while we're on the subject, here's another tip. Guys, wear a mosque over your balls, okay? It doesn't stop the virus,
it's just no one wants to see your balls. They're like the bottom of a cupcake.
The party's on top. Just hide that stuff. In other news, football is coming back,
but the Washington Redskins are not. Effective immediately, the former Washington
Redskins will now be called the Washington football team, as they continue to look for a replacement mascot.
According to ESPN, this is not the final name of the team, but they needed something in place
before games begin this season. A new permanent name and logo is still in the works.
I'm sorry, that is the laziest team name I have ever heard.
I mean, they renamed a professional football franchise, the same way you save phone numbers of people you just met.
Uh, karaoke dude with the big ears who sings Strange.
Uh, okay, woman from the bar.
Idiot co-worker, I mean, the idiot co-worker, Michael Costa.
For real, guys, the Washington football team?
That doesn't sound like a professional organization.
It sounds like they ran out of cash, and now they can only afford the store brand version of team names. It's like when my mom couldn't buy us Cheerios,
so instead she bought us Oat circles. Oat circles. Eat this in the morning. The only silver lining
I can see for this name is that it's going to be very helpful to people who don't follow the
NFL. Yeah, because now when someone asks you who you're rooting for. You can be like, uh, the football team? Yeah, and then you sound like you know what you're talking about. Oh, interesting choice.
You're going with the football team.
Yeah, I like when they do the ball.
But let's move on now to some news that's really out of this world.
It's about space.
Here this morning, it's an historic space-space race its first ever mission to Mars this morning, a six-wheeled robot lifted off on the long March 5 rocket from the island south of China's mainland.
Details are top secret. China's not even releasing the rover's name. It should get there
in orbit sometime in February, right behind the rover, launched by the United Arab
Emirates. That was on Monday. The U.S. expecting to launch its rover, perseverance from Cape Canaveral. I'll be the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thuuuuuuil – thuil – thuil – thuil – th. th. th. th. th. th. thi-w. their-w. thoom. thoom. thoom. thogeau-w. thoge-w. the-w. thi-w. thi-w. thi-w. thi-w. the the the the the the the the the the the the their-w. their-w. their-w. their-w. thi-wl, thi-wl, thi-wl, thi-wl, thi-wlion-wlion-wlionlionlionlionlionlionlionlionlionlionlionlionlionlionlionlionlionlionlionlionlionlionn. thoa-wlionl. thoge. The US expecting to launch its rover, Perseverance,
from Cape Canaveral. I mean next week, they're going to have a traffic jam
up there. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Why is everybody trying to go to Mars? I
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Come on, scientists!
I know you want to have fun, but we need you focused on the pandemic.
Now is not playtime.
No Mars until you finish your corona.
You finish your corona, then you can have Mars.
Don't you look at me like that, young scientist. Moving on to politics. Yesterday we talked about how a Republican congressman named Ted Yoho called Representative
Alexandria Ocacio Cortez a fucking bitch in the halls of the Capitol building.
Well this morning, AOC fired back with both barrels.
An extraordinary moment on the House floor just a few minutes ago.
Congresswoman Alexandria Ocassio Cortez talking about Republican congressman Ted Yoho throwing expletives at her. I was minding my own business walking up the
steps and Representative Yoho put his finger in my face he called me disgusting, he
called me crazy and in front of reporters Representative Yoho called me
and I quote a a fucking bitch.
And I want to be clear that Representative Yoho's comments
were not deeply hurtful or piercing to me,
because I have worked a working-class job.
I have waited tables in restaurants. I have ridden the subway, I have tossed men out of
bars that have used language like Mr. Yoho's.
Mr. Yoho mentioned that he is a wife and two daughters.
I am someone's daughter too, and I am here because I have to show my parents that I am their
daughter and that they did not raise me to accept abuse from
men.
And you know, I don't care what anybody says.
I am glad AOC came out on the house floor and said exactly what that congressman said
to her, expletives and all.
Because if you only hear about the story on the news, you've probably heard them say
that Yoho used a derogatory language, or offensive term or he made a decorum whoopsy.
AOC is absolutely right.
Time and time again, powerful men hide behind the fact that they have daughters as a way
to shield themselves from accusations of sexism.
It's almost like these dudes are out there, gender revealed parties like, yay, it's pink.
Oh man, I'm finally going to have a political prop to excuse my bad behavior. Oh, this is the happiest day of my life.
But enough about sexist politicians.
Let's switch things up and talk about President Trump.
For years now, Trump has been bragging about how he aced a dementia test that he took
back in 2018.
And now, he's been bringing it up every chance he gets.
He talked about it with Chris Wallace. He replaced, he the the the white, he the white, he the white, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, the white, the white, the white the white the white the white the white the white thoes, thoes, thoes, thoes, thoes, thoes, thoes, thoes, thoompera, thoomeou?. thoomeou-a, thoomeou-a, thoes, thoes, thoes, thoes, thoes, thoes, thoes, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, thi, and, and, thi, and, thi, and, and, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. Hea, thean, thii.augh, thi, thea, thean, thean, thi.a, thi.a, thi, chance he gets. He talked about it with Chris Wallace.
He replaced the White House portrait of Abraham Lincoln
with the drawing of that elephant.
And in an interview with Fox News last night,
Trump went into the greatest detail yet on the test
that he says proves he's a stable genius.
And it was 30 or 35 questions.
The last questions are very easy. The last questions are much more difficult.
Like a memory question, it's like you'll go person, woman, man, camera, TV.
So they say, could you repeat that?
So I said, yeah.
So it's person, woman, man, camera, TV.
Okay, that's very good.
If you get it in order, you get extra points.
Okay, now he's asking you other questions, other questions.
And then 10 minutes, 15, 20 minutes later, and say, remember the first, not the first,
but the 10th question. Give us that again.
Can you do that again? And you go person, woman, man, camera tv.. tv. tv. tv. tv. tv. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. the. the. th. th. th. th. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. th. thi. thi. thi. so. so. so. the. thi. the. the. the. thi. the. the. th. th. So, th. So, ththe first, but the tenth question. Give us that again. Can you do that again? And you go person, woman, man, camera TV. If you get it in order, you get extra
points. They said nobody gets it in order. It's actually not that easy. But for me it was easy.
They say, that's amazing. How did you do that? I do it because I have like a good memory
because I'm cognitively there.
Donald Trump is the only person
who can talk about a cognitive test
but make me feel like I have brain damage.
He's gone from bragging about his historic electoral college win
to boasting that he can solve the puzzle in a happy meal.
In fact, I almost feel like obsessing over a dementia test
that you took two years ago is the real dementia test.
Also, can we all agree that Trump is just naming things
that he sees in front of him?
Like, in that moment?
That's what he's doing.
Person, woman, woman, a man, like, I, like, I, like, you're not a genius if you can do that. Anyone can do it. Camera, chair, bookshelf, dead body, TV.
Oh, I'm a genius now too.
What makes it even stranger that Trump keeps bragging about his score on this test
is that the neurologist who created the test told the Washington Post, quote,
It's not meant to measure IQ or intellectual skill in any way way way way performs well, what it means is they can be ruled out for cognitive impairment
that comes with diseases like Alzheimer's, strokes, or multiple sclerosis.
That's it.
So you see, acing this test does not make Trump a genius, it just makes him a guy who's desperate
for an accomplishment.
Now, one reason Trump keeps bringing up this test is that he thinks it shows that he's
more mentally sharp than Joe Biden.
But yesterday, Joe Biden said the real issue isn't what's in Trump's brain, it's what's
inside his heart.
Joe Biden tonight calling out Mr. Trump as the country's first racist president.
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that the president blames China for the coronavirus pandemic.
All right, all right.
I understand the point Biden was trying to make,
but Donald Trump is obviously not the first racist American president.
Because Biden calling Trump the first racist president is like calling LeBron
the first black NBA player.
I mean, he may be the best right now, but there were a lot before him.
And don't get me wrong.
It was extremely racist when Trump wouldn't let black people live at his properties.
But those early presidents wouldn't let black people not live at their properties.
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Woodrow Wilson openly supported the clan.
FDR through Japanese Americans and internment camps.
LBJ routinely used the N-word in private.
Nixon used racial slurs against pretty much every race and religion imaginable.
Reagan called African leaders monkeys who are uncomfortable wearing shoes.
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He was probably racist.
That's like racist hairstyle.
You know the thing when you choose from the list?
Which one do you want?
I want that one?
Racist? Yeah, hell, yeah.
So look, Biden was clearly wrong about this.
In fact, he was so wrong that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that thated his GAF into a new attack ad.
Gaff machine Joe Biden is added again, claiming that Donald Trump is the first racist president.
He's the first one, the first one, the first one.
But the truth is, Donald Trump is just one of many racist presidents.
In fact, historically speaking, very few presidents weren't racist, and one of them was black.
So this November, vote for Donald Trump, the only candidate racist enough to be president.
I'm Donald Trump, and I approve this message, Person Woman, Man Camera TV.
Phew, devastating.
Okay, we have to take a quick break,
but when we come back, we'll tell you about America's new pastime,
reenacting the Spanish flu.
Stick around.
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When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968,
there was nothing like it.
This is 60 Minutes.
It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives.
But that's all about to change.
Like none of this stuff gets looked at.
That's what's incredible.
I'm Seth Done of CBS News.
Listen to 60 Minutes, a second look on Apple podcasts starting September 17. Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show.
It's no secret that America is struggling with the coronavirus.
And part of the reason is that hardly anyone alive
has ever seen a pandemic like this before.
In fact, to find the closest one, you have to go back over a hundred years.
The nation's top infectious disease expert, Dr. Anthony Faulchi, says this current pandemic
may match the horror of 1918's flu epidemic.
This is a pandemic of historic proportions.
I think we can't deny that fact.
It's something that I think when history looks back on it, it'll be comparable to what
we saw in 1918.
Yes, to find something similar to Corona,
you have to go back to 1918.
That's way back, like back before they even invented smiling.
Would you like to try smiling?
But this is a picture.
I know, do something crazy.
Yeah, you're right, it won't work.
But what has America learned since the 1918 Spanish flu? Well it turns out not a lot, as we'll see in another
installment of, if you don't know, now you know. The Spanish flu of 1918 had a lot in common with the coronavirus in 2020.
It infected millions around the globe, it spread easily through the air, through coughs
and sneezes, and through most of it, we were wiping our butts with old newspapers.
But the real similarities between these two pandemics is in how American society responded.
For example, in both eras, the pandemic spread even even further thanks to the mismanagement
of the federal government.
Since the start of the coronavirus pandemic, Mr. Trump has downplayed the severity of the
problem as cases surge around the country.
Woodrow Wilson, during World War I, try to minimize the Spanish flu epidemic.
Woodrow Wilson pretended it wasn't happening, did not let people know how to protect
themselves. The president effectively discarding the existing advice from his government, his own public
health experts.
Woodrow Wilson encouraged public events. He told mayors and governors to have military parades.
Despite public warnings against mass gatherings, President Trump is encouraging thousands
of people to gather for a fireworks display. You had national public health leaders saying such things as this is ordinary influenza the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the existing the the the the the existing the the the the the existing the the the the the the existing the the the the the the existing the existing the the existing the the existing the existing the existing the existing the existing the existing the existing the existing the existing the existing the existing the existing the existing the existing the existing the existing the existing the existing the existing the existing the existing the existing the the the the the the existing the the existing the the the the the the existing the the the the the existing the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th thi thi. thi. thi. thi. the the the the thi. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the existing existing a the existing a the the existing the the ands of people to gather for a fireworks display. You had national public health leaders saying such things as this is ordinary
influenza by another name.
View this the same as the flu.
The surgeon general said if proper precautions are taken, you have no cause for alarm.
Is there no reason to panic at all?
It's going to disappear.
Uh-huh. Trump is making all the same mistakes that Woodrow Wilson once made.
And I mean, I know we said we want him to be more presidential, but not that president.
Sometimes it seems like Trump is a Frankenstein, but made up of only the worst parts of
all previous presidents.
You know, he's got the pandemic response of Woodrow Wilson, the racism of Andrew Jackson, the horniness of Bill Clinton, the vocabulary of George W. Bush, and it's all stuffed
into Taft's body.
Now, in both 1918 and today, the lack of leadership created a vacuum that allowed misinformation
and dangerous cures to be spread as fast as the virus itself.
As a coronavirus continues to spread worldwide, the misinformation is spreading too. Donald Trump is pushing the debunked conspiracy that coronavirus was man-made in a lab in
Wuhan China.
The pandemic spread benefited from misinformation.
People began blaming the Germans, claiming they were spreading poison clouds or that
Bayer, which was a German-owned company, had infected their aspirin.
The president offers snake oil treatments that have the potential to do more harm than good. The president suggested Americans could inject themselves with disinfectants to
ward off COVID-19.
The disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute.
Snake oil salesman had a field day.
Vicks VeyboRub also advertised itself as a remedy for the flu, claiming to stimulate the mucus
membrane to throw off the germs the germs the germs the germs the germs the germs the germs the germs the germs the germs the germs the germs the germs the germs the germs the germs the germs the germs the germs the germs the stimulate the mucus membrane to throw off the germs. There were plenty of ads touting medicines, tablets, and the use of disinfectants.
People back in the day were so dumb.
They thought you could spread flu through aspirin?
I mean, everyone knows that diseases are spread through 5G.
Hello, that's why you turn on airplane mode.
I'll be honest. I actually admire conspiracy theorists back then, because they didn't have
YouTube to spread their ideas, which means to get people to believe this stuff, they had
to go door to door.
Good day, ma'am.
Rockefeller's are inventing a flu vaccine that will record your thoughts.
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By the way, I'm willing to bet money that that Vix conspiracy was actually started
by an African dad, because they try and fix everything with Vix.
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again today is that the lack of trust in leadership doesn't just cause the
wrong treatments to spread. It also makes it much harder for the right treatments
to spread. Cities recommended face masks.
City's recommended wear masks.
A mask mandate followed, but not everyone complied.
Masks are mandated here.
Not everyone likes the rule.
You guys are violating federal law.
You get that?
One woman declared the ordinance, quote, absolutely unconstitutional.
They say that it interferes with their personal liberty and it's unconstitutional.
The anti-mass sentiment actually coalesced into something organized.
Thousands protested mandatory masking measures.
Are you going to allow the government to tell you you have to wear a mask?
You know, it's bad enough that people today don't want to wear mosques.
But why wouldn't people in 1918 wear masks? I mean the past
smelled like shit all the time. Forget the flu. I would have worn a mask just not to smell
the horse crap and the pre-running water B.O. I also wish that I could tell all the anti-mask people
today that masks actually helped bring an end to the Spanish flu. Yeah, but knowing some of these haters, they'd be like, oh yeah, but if masks work so well, then how come everyone who lived through that period
is dead now? I will say, it is depressing that it's been a hundred years, and
masks are still our best invention for stopping a pandemic? Because I mean, if someone
traveled in a time machine from 1918, that mask? Yes, but now it's blue. So the sad truth is, so far, America has repeated
all the mistakes with Corona that it made during the Spanish flu. And if Americans don't do the very
un-American thing of learning from history, then 2020 will be bound to repeat the worst of 1918, the second wave. Backlash from business business business business business business business business business business business business business business business business business business business business business business business business business business business business business business business to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the to th. to to to thi? to to to to th. th. to to to to to to to to repeat the worst of 1918, the second wave. Backlash from business owners pressured cities to reopen.
As cities eased guidelines, some were hit with a second wave of the flu.
St. Louis, Birmingham and Omaha saw an increase in cases after lifting closures.
Denver reopens on November 10th.
With all restrictions on distancing lifted, thousands flocked to the streets for an armist
to stay celebration. No more than 10 days later, signs that the city opened back up too soon became clear as
the death toll rises again.
In San Francisco, when the cases went almost down to zero, the city said, let's open
up the city, let's have a great big parade, we'll all take off our masks together.
Because of that event, two months later, the great influenza came back
roaring. Yeah, that's something we all have to keep in mind. The lesson of 1918
is that bringing crowds back too soon will bring the virus back too. So as much as I
hate to say it, we actually need to get Trump re-elected. Yeah, because if
there's anyone who knows how to keep a crowd size down, it's him. So that's where we are.
It's clear that nothing has really changed since 1918,
except for the fact that now, our clothing shows off our butts.
And just like with the Spanish flu, America has ignored the spread of COVID-19 until it was too late.
And even now, America isn't taking the steps needed to flatten the curve. But remember, it's not th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thus thus thus tho tho thath. thi. that that that, that, tho tho thoom. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. th steps needed to flatten the curve. But remember, it's not too late to learn from history.
So America?
Put on a mosque, socially distanced.
Because the way things are going right now, by the time 21-20 comes around, they won't
be anyone left to learn from our mistakes.
When we come back, Desilic will check in on her uncle, Rudy Giuliani.
Stick around.
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This is 60 Minutes.
It's a kind of a magazine for television.
Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives.
But that's all about to change.
Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News,
listen to 60 Minutes, a second look
on Apple podcasts starting September 17.
Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show.
You know, in these Corona times,
everyone is keeping in touch with their relatives with Zoom calls. And that includes our very own Desilitic.
Now, a few weeks ago, we were shocked to learn that one of Desi's distant relatives
is Fox News anchor Janine Pirro.
And now, we also just found out that Desi is also related to Rudy Giuliani, which is insane.
Yeah, he's her uncle on her second cousin's married side thrice divorced. So just this week, Desi checked, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, the, the, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thee, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi thi, thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. to to to thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. thi. thi her second cousin's married side thrice divorced.
So just this week, Desi checked in with Uncle Rudy to see how he's holding up during the pandemic.
Hey, Uncle Rudy! I saw a deformed potato in the store and it reminded me that I hadn't checked in with you in a while.
You are you doing okay with the whole pandemic and everything?
Not doing as well now. Oh, sorry to hear that.
Are you staying busy?
You know, I found it really helpful to stick to a schedule,
like a daily agenda?
Interesting.
Yeah, it's actually been really-
George Soros set out on his own agenda.
Uncle Rudy, can we please not do the George Soros stuff again? It's a Marxist agenda. It's a Marxist-A This is not talk politics. This is planned by Black Lives Matter.
It's funded by Soros to the tune of $30 or $40 million.
Wait, I'm sorry.
Black Lives Matter and George Soros want what exactly?
They want your property.
They want the government to control it.
But they do want one preferred class, and that's the people who are going to all, they're going to get like a lifetime salary.
That does not make any sense.
That's going to be black people will get that, and they'll also get to choose property
that they want, and that's the reparations for slavery.
Uncle Rudy! That's not how reparations work. What are you even talking about? This, Marxist, terrorist-inspired document.
Please, let's talk about something else.
I'm thinking about painting the kids' room a different color,
like a fun yellow or something.
What about all the people that do, uh, all the crazy painting on walls and stuff
the graffiti people.
Yeah, that's an interesting idea. I think I'm probably just going to do it myself? Anything else? to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, that's an interesting idea. Mm-hmm.
I think I'm probably just going to do it myself.
Anything else new? Have you guys seen Hamilton yet?
I don't want a group that hates white people,
that hates America,
that has been organized by Marxists and funded by terrorists.
I don't want that seen by my children.
Jesus, everything tracks back to Marxism with you. I bet if I said the word puppies, the first words that would come into your mind or...
Communism, Marxism, socialism.
See, exactly.
All right, I really, I gotta go because I'm pretty behind on some stuff.
Maybe we'll talk again sometime.
We have got to get together.
We have to be together.
I could take you to Philadelphia Philadelphia Philadelphia Philadelphia Philadelphia Philadelphia Minneapolis. Oh, I'm not really doing planes right now. But
yeah, I would love to go to St. Louis with you when things calm down a bit. I'm just, I'm super
busy right now. So amarxious by the way. There you go. Couldn't help yourself yourself. Okay, talk again in a month. Bye. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the to to to the the to the to to to the to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. to. to. to. to. to. toan. toan. toan. toan. to. to. to. to. to. to. I to. I talk again in a month. Bye.
Wow, you're a great niece, Desi. After the break, I'll be speaking to renowned therapist,
Esther Perel, and she'll help you figure out
how not to break up during coronavirus.
Yeah, I'm talking to you.
Stay tuned.
When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968,
there was nothing like it. This is 60 minutes, th a a a a thia 60 minutes, tha 60 minutes, thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, theea, thea, thea, thea, thea, thioliolome, September 1968, there was nothing like it.
This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television.
Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives.
But that's all about to change.
Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible.
I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes, A Second Look, starting September 17th,
wherever you get your podcasts.
Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show.
Earlier today, I spoke with Esther Perel, psychotherapist, author, and host of the hit podcast, where should we begin?
We talked about dating and counseling couples during the pandemic. So if you're a couple and you're in the pandemic, this is for you, you. th you're th you're th you're th you're th th, th th th th th th th th, the th. the th. the the the the, the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, wherever, wherever, wherever, wherever, wherever, wherever, wherever, wherever, wherever, wherever, wherever, wherever, wherever, wherever, wherever, wherever, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where the, where the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the, the the, the, the, the, thean, thean, thean, theat-s theateateateate, theat-s, theat-s, theateateate. the. the dating and counseling couples during the pandemic.
So if you're a couple and you're in the pandemic, this is for you.
Esther Perall, welcome to the Daily Social Distancing Show.
Thank you. I am so socially distant from you right now as well.
The name Esther Peral, people think of the teat,
tauks. People know you as somebody who talks about the complexities of dating in the modern world. But now, the modern world is a completely
different world. And so I'm sure as a therapist who talks to so many different couples, you've seen
what coronavirus has done to relationships. So let's start with the most basic thing. Has
Has coronavirus been good or bad for people's relationships?
There's only two options, right?
People have sometimes either complained about being too close, too much together,
24-7 on top of each other and wanting more air,
or people have longed for more connection, more closeness, more contact because they've been too far apart.
So on some level, at the extremes,
people have either felt too much or too little.
That's one thing I would say that's really fundamentally changed
at this moment.
But basically, when you have a pandemic,
when you have a disaster,
it intensifies everything,
and it functions as a relationship accelerator.
What it means is that you have a sense of uncertainty.
You don't know where we're going.
We still don't know where we're going.
There's a prolonged sense of uncertainty.
There's a deep unknown.
And as a result, there is also a sense of mortality.
So people are saying, life is short.
And when life is short, you start to push all the superfluous overboard,
and you've honed in on the essential the essential the essential the essential the essential the essential the essential the essential push all the superfluous overboard, and you've honed on the essential
and the priorities.
And you basically say, what am I waiting for?
Hence, let's get married, let's have babies, let's move.
Or I've waited long enough.
I've been here one day and I'm out of here.
And hence, we know from trust disasters that is often a proliferation of babies and divorces that follow pandemics.
Wow, a proliferation of babies and divorces. What a way to think of coronavirus and its effect
on us as human beings? On your podcast it was really interesting because you spoke to couples
in quarantine. What have you found are some of the things that have helped couples and what are some the things that hinder couples who either have to spend all their time ti time time time time time time time time time to to to to to to to to to their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, thea, their, their, their, their, and the things that have helped couples and what are some of the things that hinder couples who either have to spend all their time together or all their time apart?
So, you know, what I looked at in where should we begin was exactly that. What are the acute
stressors that directly influenced the way that the couples are either getting along or not
getting along at this moment? What happens when you have a complete overhaul of the roles?
One person doesn't have his job or her job, in this case, in the Sicilian couple in where
should we begin? The man loses his job. She works as a dula in the hospital. She has to go every day,
he has the three young children, and the entire structure of the family has changed overnight.
In addition, they were kind of
already living with a rather big riff between the two of them and suddenly they
find themselves thrown into a whole different level of interdependence. So you
have different coping styles and you have really a sense of
exacerbation of our coping styles. It's not negative per se. What makes it good is
when the complementarity
exists between people and one says, you know, you're good at this, I'm good at that,
and these two are both necessary. What is it not so helpful is when one person says to the
other, my coping strategy is the right strategy. Why are you worried? Or the other one who
says, you're not taking enough precautions. That's the classic at this moment. And each person thinks that the way they manage their fear is actually the right way of being in the world.
I think what you said earlier on is something that we have to address considering what's been happening, and that's been the stresses.
The stresses in the relationship, the tensions, the conflicts that have been exacerbated.
From America to South Africa, to India, to all over the globe, we've seen a dramatic rise
in domestic abuse within relationships.
Is there something that we attribute that to?
Is it something that was always going to happen or does coronavirus make it happen?
And then how do we deal with it in society?
How do couples or even groups of people deal with this issue that's causing so many
women to be domestically abused in a way that they weren't before?
And children.
But look, I think that what happens is that when in this instance, because not all domestic
violence is on the side of men.
Sometimes we talk about 15% being on the side of women.
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When you lose your job, when you can't provide, when you lose your status, when you feel
you when you feel worthless, when you have money worries, when the stress becomes acute,
you have all the conditions, that kind of agony is the right conditions for domestic violence
and violence against children.
It's been like this throughout.
And for some, sometimes the very fact that their partner can't protect themselves and
can't go out exacerbates the power that they have over them.
You're trapped with me.
And if you really want to go out, go see what will happen to you.
So what we do, there's all kinds of things that societies have tried with apps, with their a their, with their thaaps, with thoes, with thoes, with thoes, with thoes, with thoes, with thoes, with thoes, with thoes, with thoes, with thoes, with thoes, with thoes, with thanks, with to you. So what we do, there's all kinds of things that societies have tried with apps, with codes,
where women can go to the supermarket
and they can give the code and they can identify themselves
as being vulnerable, as being in danger,
as needing to be removed,
as being able to go to the hospital. There are systems that are trying to create safe places, but no, you don't to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be to be to be th to to to to create safe places, but no, you don't just have the system in place before.
So you want to try to make sure that people maintain as much as possible a job or have a sense
of security. You want to take away those exacerbators that are likely to help you strike.
You always talk about how, you know, we have multiple relationships with people, even if it
is the same relationship. As things change and we change,
we move into different relationships.
So as the world changes,
do you think people should take a restock
of their relationship and what they're looking for
and what they're currently in,
because they're living in a new world?
Because someone may say, I wanted to be married, but not if it means the person is here to to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be thoomomomomomomere, I to be, I thoomorrow, I thoomorrow, I'm to be to be, I'm thi. thi, I thi, I to be to be to be to be to be to be to different, to different, to different, to different, to different, to different, to different, to different, to different, to different, I to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the woooomeoomorrow., the woomorrowedmoomorrow, the woomorrow, the woomorrow, the woomorrow, the woomorrow, to be married, but not if it means the person is here 24 hours a day. Or I wanted to be, you know, more single and free, but not if it means that I'm alone 24 hours a day.
Is this the time for people to take stock or is it not the time because it's coronavirus?
I think that people are taking stock no matter what. People realize I didn't mean to be with the person. We went, we quarantined, we the in the in the in theatin, we quarantined, we quarantined, we quarantined, we quarantined, we quarantined, we together, we together, we together, we together, we together, we together, thea, thea, thea, thea, t, thea, thea, thea, thea, thea, thea, thea, thea, thea, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the t, the t, the, thea, thea, thea, thea, thau, thau, thau, thau, thau, thau. thau, thau, thau, thea, thea, the quarantined together and I realized I could never have done this alone.
I am so grateful for the presence of this other person.
So it goes all over the place.
It also is the fact that at this moment, if you work at home, you also have all your roles at the same table, on the same chair.
You are the CEO or you are the worker and you are the parent and you are the teacher and you are the child of and you are the partner and you are the lover.
I mean, there is no differentiation between your roles.
And so that in itself is exhausting.
That's part of what these boundaries are so important.
We have unprecedented expectations of our relationships, both in the romantic sphere
and in the work sphere. You know, secularization has made it so that we expect from our relationship, and the relationship, and their their, and their, and their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the work sphere. You know, secularization has made it so that we expect from our relationship meaning, belonging,
and community.
It's like a whole village.
And I think that in a moment like this, we know that mental health is deeply connected
to social connection.
And that means that even if you can't see people, which is not necessarily the case. You can take walks with people, you can call them, you can, no, it doesn't always have to be on Zoom. The essential
important thing here is to not think that because you are confined with one person, it means
that your whole life is with one person. Your whole life needs all the connections, if not
more so. And in fact, people began at first to call people that they hadn't seen in years, just, how are you, what ever happened to you?
Like they went through their memory lane, you know?
And one is stay connected socially,
and two is be helpful to others.
When you're helpful to others,
even your neighbors who you never met before,
you actually feel less passive and less helpless
in the face of this big unknown. And th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho thi and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and in thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the face of this big unknown. And those two things are essential elements of mental health.
It's basically relational health.
Well, I could talk to you for hours on this,
but I guess that's why you have the podcast
and that's why you have the books.
Hopefully we'll have you back on again
after coronavirus to figure out how we
we tweak our relationships now that we're free again, and we seeing strangers in the street for the first time.
Thank you so much for joining us on the social this season show.
Bye.
By truth.
Well, that's our show for tonight, but before we go, I just wanted to remind you that
America is facing a nationwide poll worker shortage.
And that's because most poll workers are over 60 and coronavirus is still out there so they cannot show up. But fewer poll workers means that there are fewer polling stations open, and it means
there's going to be longer lines that not everybody can afford to wait in, especially
in communities of color.
But now here's the good news.
Most poll working is paid.
Yeah?
Paid.
And in some states, you can be as young as 16 to work.
Over the past two weeks, we've parteeeethe polls to ask you to be a poll worker and over 40,000 of you have already signed up.
So thank you to every single one of you who are giving your time to save your
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