The Daily Show: Ears Edition - America's Great Resignation | John Legend

Episode Date: October 15, 2021

Americans quit their jobs in record numbers, Demi Lovato objects to calling extraterrestrials "aliens," and artist John Legend discusses his HUMANLEVEL initiative. Learn more about your ad-choices at... https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Comedy Central. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes a second look on Apple podcasts starting September 17th.
Starting point is 00:00:35 Yo, quick question. You know everyone's talking about like the four-day work week and everyone's talking about like how you can limit times. You know what I realized the other day I was like, I feel like whoever invented companies and like working and shit, they tricked every single one of us. Why do we act like the weekend? the weekend is like different days to the weekdays? Who do we act like? Who trick? Who trick thri us into this bullshit? Can somebody? thiiiiiiiiiiiii. thi. their their. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi? thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I I I thi. I thi. I I thi. I I thi. I I I I thi. I I I thi. I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I thi. I I thi. I thi. I feel like. I thi. I feel like like like like like, thi. I feel like, thri. thri. thri. thri. tri. tri. tri. tri. tri. tri. trikkkkkkkk. thricked. thri. that's the weekday. Who said that? How did we accept this as a trick? They are all the same day. They literally, there's no difference. Then they're like, you know, people who own companies are like,
Starting point is 00:01:12 we would love to, but there's only two. There's only two of them. We would give you more if they were more if they we're like, yeah, there's only two of them. Thanks for trying companies. There's only two of them. If there were more days that they could give up, but weekend only has two days. Who made that rule? How did they trick us? Why do we not work the two or three days?
Starting point is 00:01:34 And then be like, the weekend? the weekend. It's Friday, Friday is not even the weekend. Now you have to have like enough joy and energy to start enjoying the weekend because Sunday you're stressed out about the Monday. Technically the weekend you need four days you need four days for a weekend. You need one day to party, one day to recover, one day to chill and then one day to prepare for work. I think that's fair and then three days we work our asses off. Then we then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then th. Then we work th is th is thus thus the thus thus thus thus the thus their their their their their their their their their their th. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the. the. thr-I thr-I thr-I's thr-I's thr-I's thr-I's thea. thr-I's thr-I's thr-I's thr-I's their their days. I mean, this is just me and these are my opinions. Three-day week. Why we negotiate for four-day week, like it's a nice thing. Three-day week, people, then they'd be like,
Starting point is 00:02:10 but the economy, the economy's in a made-up thing. Oh, shit, the most important place on earth. It's the Daily Show, Ears Edition. Tonight, America doesn't want to go to work. When to use the A word? And John Legend. This is the Daily Show with Trevor Noah. Hey, what's going on everybody?
Starting point is 00:02:43 Welcome to the Daily Show. I'm Trevor Noah, let's jump straight into today's headlines. We kick things off with tourism. When you cheat on your hometown to spice things up. As we begin to move past COVID, the world is opening up for travel again. But the pause has given some major tourist destinations a chance to rethink how they want to operate. For instance, Venice, Italy, the only city where drivers have canal rage, they just announced that it's going to have an entrance fee with electronic turnstiles. Yeah, so it'll be like the New York subway, but less flooded. And now the island of Bali, one of the finest and most
Starting point is 00:03:21 Instagram tourist destinations in the world, is saying that as it reopens, it is also instituting some new guidelines. The Indonesian government says they now want a focus on attracting what they're calling quality tourists, those that spend more money, stay longer, and respect the Balinese culture. One government official stated openly, we do not want backpackers. I mean, yeah, of course we do not want backpackers. I mean, yeah. Of course Bali doesn't want backpackers. Nobody wants backpackers. I don't think there's any country in the world that's like, come backpackers, wash your filthy underwear at our pristine beaches, then go back to your hostels and spread clemeedia. This is what tourism is about.
Starting point is 00:04:01 So look, you can't blame Bali for wanting to be selective about who they invite into their country. I mean tourism is a business. If you're running a business would you want poor people coming in and barely spending any money? No. You'd want rich people who can pay you to cook and clean and dance for them while they laugh at how weird your local outfits are. Wait what? And honestly, I wish New York would start hand picking its visitors as well. Then we could th, th, their their their their th, th, th, th, their th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, t, tou, tou, tou, tou, t, t, tourism, tourism is tourism, tourism, tourism, tourism, tourism, tourism, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, tourism, tourism, tourism, tourism, tourism is tourism is tourism is tourism is tourismui. tourismui. tourismus, tourismu-s, tourismu-s, tourismu-s-picking its visitors as well, you know, then we could kick out all of those tourists who stop in the middle of every single block to take a picture. You guys never seen a building before? It's a big thing with windows.
Starting point is 00:04:34 We have to stop it. Who are you taking these pictures for? Who in your country is like, oh wow, yes, this is the Empire State Building I've seen. Ah, I didn't have Google. I'm glad you took this picture. You don't have to stop every single time. It's not something you have to do. Anyway. Cher, thank you. I want to say thank you. I know you're doing your thing, and I'm not going to interrupt a lot, but the Wi- Wi-Fi was down at my apartment, so ever since, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, th, th, th, th, th, th th th th th thi, thi, thi, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's to to to to to to that's that's that's that's that's that's that, that, that's that's that's that's th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th.. thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. that's not thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thii. that's not thi. that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not That's why it's called we work, okay? Thanks, buddy.
Starting point is 00:05:05 That's not why it's called we work, first of all, internet is not down, the Wi-Fi is not down, you didn't pay for it and last them most importantly. I agreed to this because you said you weren't gonna interrupt. That's the only reason I said yes. But that was an excellent take tak-a, I tak, a little bit of a, because I agree with you on backpackers. I don't trust backpackers. You know, think about who uses backpacks. Okay? Drug dealers, terrorists, children. Okay? Three of the worst groups you'd ever want to be in a hotel room or airplane with. So I'm with
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Starting point is 00:06:35 happening and it's totally freaking people out. They come all day right to the end of 15th Avenue where there's nothing else to do but make some kind of a multi-point turn and head out the way they came in.... th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to to to to to to th. to to to to to to th. to to to to to to to to to to the the the, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. th. th. th. th. the, the, the, the. the. the. theate. the. theate. theate. the. toe. toe. theate. the. the. their, their, the. to the end of 15th Avenue where there's nothing else to do but make some kind of a multi-point turn and head out the way they came in. Now not long after that car is gone there will be another which will make the same turn and leave before another car shows up and does the exact same thing. There are some days where it can be up to 50. I mean it's literally every five minutes. At several points today they they th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. toe, toe, too, too, told, told, told, too, too, too, too, too, too, to to to to the the the to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the. the. today, the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the the the the points today they showed up on top of each other these cars packed with technology stopping in a queue as if completely baffled by a dead end. It's a little bit peculiar. Yeah it's a lot peculiar but I think what's happening here is pretty obvious. There's a room bar in one of those apartments and all those robot cars are trying to smash. And look I don't know why everyone is so upset about this. The thi th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. the theat the the theate. their theateck. the. thi. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thi. thi. the. the. te. te. te. teateat. teat. teau. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te cars are trying to smash. And look, I don't know why everyone is so upset about this. The thing that everyone wants is for self-driving
Starting point is 00:07:29 cars to become just like humans, right? And now look at them. They're making wrong turns down a dead-end street just like humans. We did it, people! This is artificial intelligence. Ha! Honestly, I don't even think this is a coincidence. I don't think it's a coincidence that they keep coming back to a dead end. I mean if I was a robot the whole concept of death that would be fascinating. They're probably in that dead end like, so the road just stops existing? Should we do that to the humans? You know I, I, you know, sorry I have to jump in here because I'm overhearing, but I actually think these are dumb robots. They keep going to the dead end.
Starting point is 00:08:10 This makes me happy. Everyone's afraid of robots taking over the world and killing humans. These robots can't even figure out a street. You know what I mean? This makes me happy. Humans still got it. That's my take. Who? That's a hot take, bro! Sorry, I'm not going to interrupt too much more, but, you know, everyone says like drones and missiles and watch out, they're self-aware. They can't even figure out a dead end, Trevor. I don't know who writes this stuff for you, but like, I got word open. You got a pretzel or anything? Good? That's actually a pretty good joke. I'm
Starting point is 00:08:49 not going to lie. Yeah. Bro, why do you think I dress this way? I could be in sweats, but I see the way your writers dress. I'm here, bro. Just camouflage, daquiry, marshmallow. All right, that's all the time we've got for the headlines. Let's move on to our top story. The COVID pandemic may be winding down in America, I hope. But as society continues to open up again, we're not going back to the way things were before. And for some people, that means rethinking their jobs, which is the topic of our latest installment of getting back
Starting point is 00:09:26 to normalish. Quitting your job is a right of passage for everyone. Whether you're turning in your two weeks notice because you're going to college, or turning in your two seconds notice before they find all the printer cartridges you've stuffed into your pants. And America just set a new record for how many people are calling it quits. It's being called the great resignation. A record number of Americans are telling their bosses, I quit. According to a new Labor Department report, 4.3 million people quit in August. That's the highest number of people quitting on record, back to more than 20 years and that's up from 4 million who walked
Starting point is 00:10:07 away from jobs in June. Leading the quitters, restaurant, hotel, and retail, the quitt the thousands. There are more jobs available now than ever than the the thousand. Theen the month 721,000 There are more jobs available now than ever before in US history. Many businesses are suffering from a major shortage of workers. With a 10.4 million jobs open, employers are scrambling to find help. That's right. More people than ever before are quitting their jobs. Restaurant workers are quitting. Teachers are quitting. Katie Currick quit being a journalist. And some of the numbers are crazy. 700,000 people quit thousand people quit retail jobs.. of workers workers workers workers workers workers workers workers workers workers workers. the workers workers. the workers workers workers workers. the workers workers workers workers. the workers workers workers workers. their workers workers workers workers. their workers workers workers. their workers workers. their workers. their workers workers workers. their workers. their workers workers. their workers. their workers workers workers. their workers workers. their workers workers workers workers workers workers workers workers workers workers workers workers workers workers workers workers workers workers. their workers workers workers. their workers. their workers workers. their workers. their workers workers. their workers. their workers workers. their workers. their workers. their jobs jobs jobs jobs. They. They. They. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I their jobs. I their jobs. I their jobs. I their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their jobs. I their journalist. And some of the numbers are crazy.
Starting point is 00:10:46 700,000 people quit retail jobs. Which explains why the TJ Max I went to yesterday looked like it was hit by a tornado. What? Oh, it always looks that way? No, the shoes were on the roof. So many workers have left. Pretty soon, every business is just going to be self-service. Like you realize you're going to have to make your own food at a
Starting point is 00:11:08 restaurant or you're going to have to give yourself a root canal or even worse at strip clubs you're going to be dancing for yourself in the mirror. Oh yeah I like that don't I? I'm going to give me all my money. Man the strippers in this club are really sad. By the way, could I ask you a question, like why is everything in America the great? Like, do you ever think about that? It's like the great depression, the great recession, the great resignation, the great resignation, the great Gatsby? I mean, like the dude got shot in a swimming pool, like a little bitch.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Anyway, you might be wondering why everyone is quitting now. Like right now, why is everyone quitting? I mean, people have wanted to quit their job since the beginning of time, all the way back to Caveman days. The guy who's shop in the stones by hitting him against other stones, he hated his job. He million reasons to quit their jobs.
Starting point is 00:12:09 Americans are looking for better pay, better working conditions, and more flexible working arrangements. Some have elder care and child care responsibilities in this pandemic. Some say they feel burned out after working through a year that had so many challenges. Three to four million people are still saying, I am fearful for my health, for the health of my loved ones, and therefore unwilling to take jobs where the risk of contingent is higher. Millions of Americans worked from home over the last year and will likely quit rather than go back to the office. Anastasia long to return to working from home and bravely asked the question, Well, why can't I have that? Like, we did have it. We all worked from home.
Starting point is 00:12:51 So why can't, why can't I still have that? Because, I mean, yeah, look, you know what, she has a point. For companies that had people work from home during the pandemic, everything seemed fine. They kept making money, they kept making a profit, which really made a lot of people wonder what the point of coming back into the office is. Like why sit in two hours of traffic to then sit at a computer that has the same internet as my computer at home? Except everyone here can see that I'm looking at porn? I mean, honestly, I think companies are playing a dangerous game here.
Starting point is 00:13:23 If you're telling employees, the only time time time time time time time time ti thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thin, thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thin, thin, theeeee theeeanan you're telling employees the only time they can work from home is when there's a global pandemic, you're going to have people trying to start another pandemic. It's going to be people sneaking into the zoo like, all right, let's see what happens when I bite this turtle. Ah! Okay, nothing there. I guess I got to try banging that snake th it's not just a desire to work from home. There are so many reasons that people are quitting their jobs right now. Some people don't feel safe because of COVID. Some people don't have child care.
Starting point is 00:13:53 Some people are burned out. And some people just want to try their luck in squid game. I mean, it's a lot of money. If you ignore all the people who died, it's a pretty inspiring story. But there's another reason people are quitting. And honestly, I think this reason is one of the most interesting because it comes from a deeper, almost philosophical place. For a lot of people, the pandemic has changed their minds about life, really, and what's important.
Starting point is 00:14:18 And for some people, that means changing careers. A growing number of them are not jumping to a new full-time job, but just taking a break. They are saying, I don't want another full-time job right now. I want to hit pause, maybe learn some new skills, take a breather, and maybe plot a new direction of my career. It was a lot of reflection time. I know what I want out of my career might as well just make the move. Forty-two-year-old Dan Nicoliascu had spent more than-a th-a th-a th-a th-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-n, th-n, th-n, th-n, th-n, th-n, thayescu had spent more than two decades in the restaurant industry. But he says a year home with his wife and two kids changed his perspective. Nikolayescu is hoping to trade mixology for mycology mushroom farming. Is there money in mushroom farming?
Starting point is 00:15:04 I guess I'll have to find out. But we can't always pursue only the financial side of things. There is no rewind button in life, right? The man that ties women to train tracks is right. There's more to life than making money. And the pandemic has forced people to reconsider whether their jobs were really how they wanted to spend their entire lives. And I'm not just talking about boring office jobs either. I mean, this guy was mixing cocktails, I'm assuming in the 1800s, and even he wanted to try
Starting point is 00:15:33 something new. And I'll be honest. I think it's great that people are pursuing their dreams. But I also think we need like a Google Doc or something, just, you know, to make sure we're balancing things out. Like, think about it. We can't have a society where everybody is pursuing their quirky second careers. I'm all for mushroom farmers, but I still need a proctologist. Those M&Ms aren't going to remove themselves.
Starting point is 00:15:58 Now, obviously, most people won't or can't leave their jobs. So these quitters are a very small minority, but the quitters are still having a broader impact because with so many workers willing to leave their jobs, companies are forced to make the jobs more appealing. A pandemic forced power shift, employees gaining the upper hand and making lifestyle demands, with employers hoping to keep them happy. Some companies are changing their policies to adapt to the Times, offering more perks
Starting point is 00:16:29 and flexibility. REI, the apparel, retailer gave up their headquarters building in favor of creating satellite offices so that people could go to work but go to work in a smaller office that would be closer to their home. LinkedIn is leaving the office behind for good. The networking website says most of its 16,000 employees will be allowed to work remotely full-time. The crowdfunding platform Kickstarter says it's gearing up to test a four-day work week. The popular dating app Bumble closing its offices this entire week to give it staff a break. Nike, they just gave a week off to their employees so that their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, to give its staff a break. Nike, they just gave a week off to their employees so that their employees can really recharge.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Yes, finally, finally people. It's great that companies are starting to be a little more flexible. And you know who deserves the most credit? Spirit Airlines. They were way ahead of the curve on this. Yeah, the guy who cleans their airplanes, he's been working from home for years. And you know what sort of sucks. What sort of sucks about this thing
Starting point is 00:17:29 is how it's all the white collar jobs that are getting more flexible. Because I know anyone in any job can get burned out. Don't get me wrong, but I would love to see to a group of coal miners in like West Virginia. We had this one customer who just would not verify his email. I mean, how was your day? Carl died. Yeah, so you totally get it.
Starting point is 00:17:56 I will say though, the one company we really can't afford to lose employees is go fund me. Like they better make the jobs more flexible. We can't have go fund me employees quitting American health care depends on it. So look, at the end of the day, anytime humans experience a massive life change, it changes what they expect from their work. And these changes could be anything. Having a kid getting divorced, losing a loved one and the pandemic has done that to everyone in different ways.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Hell, it's even done that to me. Like, I thought I was going to host the Daily Show forever, but no, I don't know. I mean, I heard there's a job opening for a guy with a badass mustache to make cocktails, and I think I might be interested. All right, when we come back, John Legend is joining us on the show and we'll figure out the best way to offend aliens. John Legend, that guy is the legend. What are you, have you still here? Oh, my battery's been dead, dude.
Starting point is 00:18:52 I've been joined the show. You do a good job at this, man. Well, thank you, but. Yeah, I do. This is got a future this show. Don't be here for John. Can we get him out before John Legend comes in, guys? Do you have a charger in your office? I don't have anything. Do you have a toilet in your office? Yeah, I do. You can use it.
Starting point is 00:19:09 You can use it. You know what I mean? Yeah. Just go. Thanks. I'll take the was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. You're rolling?
Starting point is 00:19:31 But that's all about to change. Like, none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. to 60 minutes, a second look on Apple podcasts starting September 17. I don't know if you guys heard the story, Demi Lovato last week was doing an interview, right? Demi Lovato the artist and said that we need to stop using the word aliens when talking about aliens.
Starting point is 00:20:10 But like not immigrants, like actual aliens from outer space. Because Demi said that it's derogatory, so we should just call them ET's extraterrestrials. And it was interesting because a lot of people, a lot of people agreed. People like, yeah, no, that's a good point. We don't offend the people. And here's, I don't know, I the the th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, than, th- th- th- th- th- th- th- th- th- th- th- th- th- th- th-in, the, the, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, than, thanan, thanan, thanananan, thanan, than, than, than, thiiii.ean, than, thi, agreed. A lot of people like, yeah, no, that's a good point. We don't want to offend the people. And here's, I don't know, here's the thing. First of all, I love Demi.
Starting point is 00:20:33 Like, I've always thought that Demi is one of easily, you know, the best artist you'll ever see perform and just a great talent and you know, and I understand, I I I I I I I I I I they're trying to do, but I almost feel like, I don't know, people want to be sensitive, but then some of the things they want to be sensitive about, like aliens, look, I understand you want to be respectful to aliens. Don't get me wrong. You know, we've all seen Independence Day. When aliens cancel you, but sometimes I feel like as people, we're just changing words for the sake of changing words. You know? Like how the acceptable term, thank you John, like how the acceptable term for homeless has now become unhoused. And I don't know, am I crazy? I feel like it's the same thing.
Starting point is 00:21:18 You know, it seems like it means the same thing. It's almost like people think if they make the term clunky enough, then people will stop saying it and then. And their. And their. And their. And their. And their, I I I I. their, I, I, I, I, I, their, their, th. their, tho, tho, tho, tho, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi's thi theea. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi thing. It's almost like people think if they make the term clunky enough then people will stop saying it and then homelessness will be solved. I mean or unhouselessness will be solved. And like here's the thing. I know it comes from a good place and maybe we have to try but I also think we have to acknowledge that new words by themselves they aren't going to solve the problems. Do you do you know mean? Like way back in the day, way back in the day, people with developmental disabilities used to be called feeble-minded. That's what they were called. And then doctors said, no, that's offensive.
Starting point is 00:21:55 They need a new word. And so then they came up with, thanks, Enid. And they said, um, moron and then they said, no, that's offensive and said, no, they're not morons. Um, they just develop more slowly, they're retarded, as in to hold back. I mean, I can't even saying that word now, I'm like, ah, you're not supposed to say that. And the same thing happened with special, like, when I was a kid, special, their. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're just just just they just just, they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they they're they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're. they're they're. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. th. the. they're just just just just developed they're just developed, they're just just developed, they're just just they're day. School kids today, when they're trying to insult each other, they say, DD, look at this DD kid, as in developmentally disabled.
Starting point is 00:22:33 I feel like at some point we have to admit, the problem isn't the words. It's how we treat the people who the words refer to. Like, that's the actual thing. And I'm not saying we shouldn't try, but you get on it. If people want to be assholes to certain groups, they're going to keep finding the new word for the thing. And it's like, yeah, you want to change it. But I also, I don't know, with aliens.
Starting point is 00:22:54 I don't know. I think sometimes people feelthat they actually can see. You know, Americans see homeless people and they think, well, the government is too broken to give these people houses, but the least I can do is give them a different name. You're unhoused. Actually, my name is Peter. Well, I'm not t Like, would aliens, you know? Would they even speak the language? Do you not, like, even,
Starting point is 00:23:32 because you go like, we're going to offend alien. This is assuming that aliens speak the language. So if the aliens are smart enough to get here, either they know all our language and then they would understand it, or like, how did they get here? Like, th th th th th th th th th th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th is, th is, th is, th is, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, like, like, thi, like, thi, like, thi, thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, they thi, they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thithey would understand it. Or like, how did they get here? Like, this is like random aliens, you know? And then you'd be like, you are extra-terrestrial, and they'd be like, we're actually globs-glob.
Starting point is 00:23:50 You're like, I'm sorry, what? We're glob-glob. And then you're like, they're like, I'm sorry, that's what you thought we all looked like? Why do we talk like that? ADI, no. Aliens are going to be like, yo, we were just going to like talk to you guys, but now we might just burn you all down. He's like, well, we just, why did you put us in the front of, why don't we have, why, why, why, why, why, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, just, why did you put us in the front of the, why didn't we have our own bicycles? Yeah, we thought it was cuter like this. We just thought it was cute. But I don't know,
Starting point is 00:24:31 look, I get it. I understand it. But okay, here's the thing for me. Here's the thing. I'm not saying we shouldn't try as people, but I do think we've got to be careful of being instantly prescriptive for other people to take on an idea that we've just like sort of made for ourselves now. Do you get what I'm saying? Like, you can't just say something is offensive out of nowhere and then like say people are being offensive. Because people have to catch it. Like language has to change, people have to catch up. So it's weird for me. And please don't get me wrong again I have nothing against Demi I think Demi knows this but I just think when we have these conversations in public because it's not just this so many stories where people like oh you're
Starting point is 00:25:10 a bad person because it's like no you just told me a new rule give me a moment to like catch up to it that's that's all I think anyway John Legend is up Lexington right I'll talk to him about this. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at, that's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. S, the the the the the the th. S. S. S. S. S. Listen. Listen. S. S. S. th. S. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at, that's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News, listen to 60 Minutes, a second look, starting September 17th, wherever
Starting point is 00:25:53 you get your podcasts. Welcome back to the Daily Show. My guest tonight is egot-winning artist and activist John Legend. He's here to talk about his brand new initiative that works with local governments and communities to fight institutionalized racism. John Legend. Welcome to the show. Trevor, it's good to be back. How you do it, my friend? I'm doing very well. It's, it's good to see you. You know, I was just thinking about this today when I was preparing for the interview and I was like, you have 12 Grammys. Yes. And Oscar, you have what, two Emmys? Yes. And you have a Tony, and you have the Oscar that they took away from you as well.
Starting point is 00:26:31 Well, that was never mine to begin with. I was never going to actually get a trophy for that because they only give it to three producers when you win that picture. So I was never going to get that. But I was shocked to get to get to get that, but I was up on stage and I was shocked to just like everyone else. But when it went down. You remember it? Oh, I remember it.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Everyone remembers it? This is a La La La Land gets called up, Warren Beatty and Fadon away. They call us up on stage. And they were confused too because they had the wrong card. And they were looking at it like, this is not the best, but it is an actor's name from what everyone thinks is going to win best picture. And so they just said, okay, we'll just say La La Land. They brought us up on stage and it turns out we never won to begin with. And it was moonlight.
Starting point is 00:27:14 And it was moonlight. What's it's moaned. What's it's, what winning your first Oscar or having your first Oscar moment taking it? What do you remember more? Winning my first Oscar because that was monumental. We performed glory, me in common, and it was such a moment and we knew how important it was for us to win on behalf of that film and what that film represented and for us to get up there and be able to give a speech on behalf of the movement it was a powerful moment so I'll never forget that but
Starting point is 00:27:47 also never forget the while. Let's talk a little bit about about what you've done since then. Yes. Over the years I would say maybe it's been over the past 10, 15 years we've noticed John Legend just on the keys to John legend out in the streets. We've seen John Legend just on the keys to John Legend out in the streets. We've seen John Legend fighting for incarcerated people to not have to spend time behind bars because they can't pay bail. We've seen John Legend fighting for people's rights, for voting rights. We've seen John Legend. This shift has become more and more aggressive over time in a good way. Yeah. I'd love to know where that came from, like, how do you go from singing love songs to going,
Starting point is 00:28:25 like, no, you know what, I'm also gonna get out there in the streets and fight for these things? Well, it came from all the artists I looked up to because I looked up to people like Paul Robeson and Nina Simone and Stevie Wonder and Marvin Gay. Artists who always used to do, going out and marching with people like they used to do, singing at these protests like Mahalia Jackson used to do. These were artists that I always looked up to, and when I was 15, and when I was 15, and
Starting point is 00:28:56 I was 15, I even wrote an essay, it was a Black if this was true. Yes and it's true I wrote this when I was 15 and they said how are you going to make black history in my essay in 500 words or less I said that I'm going to become a successful artist I'm going to become a musician and and do what I love which is making music but I'm also going to use the platform that I gain from becoming a successful musician to try to make change in the world in the such an interesting journey to get into at the age of 15 saying I'm going to become a successful recording artist not just for the music and not just for the fame but also because I want to use the platform and that's what you've done. I mean your latest initiative, human level. It's a really interesting one because for a long time people have argued that many people who are activists or many people who want
Starting point is 00:29:45 to get involved in politics like to get involved at like the flashy levels you know who's running for president yes who's governor who's going for this who's going for that human level seems like it's like no it's on the ground it's not flashy and you argue it's what actually counts it's in the trenches and I joked I joked with our co-founders, we got to make local government sexy. Because what really happens and where resources get allocated, where priorities are set, you know, we notice the big bills that come out of Washington. But even those big bills, a lot of the times the resource allocation happens on a local level. And so we want voices in the room who are saying let's look out for people who have
Starting point is 00:30:24 been marginalized, people who've been ignored before. You see these stories come up all the time. Obviously Flint was one of the most famous. Recently we've seen it again where you've seen it again where you've seen it again where you've to the, the privilege communities, oftentimes black communities where the the the, the, theype is poised, where theyme. Yes, they's is. to is. to is. to. they. th. th. th. th. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. th. they. they. they. th. th. they. their story story story story story story story story story story story, their, their, their, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, th. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. toe. toe. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. they. th. they. they. the from. You know, they'll say, oh, the governor needs to do something, and the president needs to do something. For someone who completely doesn't understand, they go, John Legend, what are you talking about? What is an example of something that people don't realize is decided on this ground level? Well, in Michigan, that I think was mostly a state issue, so it was a governor. And their staff deciding how they were going to handle a their. how they were going to handle a water issue in Flint, and it had disastrous repercussions for the city of Flint.
Starting point is 00:31:06 But there's so many decisions, for instance, so many people have been protesting about policing and the criminal justice system, so many of those decisions about how we police, who we police, how it's funded, and what we take the funds away from when we fund the police. All those decisions are usually made on a city council mayoral level. And you know, you saw so many protesters calling to defund the police or to allocate some
Starting point is 00:31:32 of those resources that we've been spending on police to other things that would care for the mental health and the physical health of the community, invest in the community in other ways. But how do you actually go about doing that? That happens in local government. For a long time, artists were people who were just artists. You saw what they were doing when they wanted you to see it. And then slowly over time, you know, people stepped out of that. They said, well, I'm not just going to be the artist, I'll also live life and I'll speak out for the issues that I believe in. I've really been interested in how you have also shared some of the best and worst moments of your personal life
Starting point is 00:32:09 as a human being. I know a lot of people don't understand it. I know you've had people who've been against you and your wife sharing issues that you've gone through and whatever. But I'd love to know as a human being, why have you chosen as John Legend to go, I'm not just going to show you the stadiums that I sell, I'm not just going to show you the activism, I'm also going to show you some of the most painful moments of my private life.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Well, this is a whole new world, you know, artists didn't have social media 20 years ago. And so there's no blueprint for how this is supposed to happen. But we've kind of, our generation has kind of grown into into into into into into into into into into into into into into into into into into into into into into into into into into into into into into into to to to grow grown grown grown grown grown grown grown grown grown into to to to have the ability to tell our own stories to our audiences. And Chrissy and I, we don't share everything, but we do share some of our personal lives and some of the tragedy that we've experienced and we experienced a miscarriage last year,
Starting point is 00:32:58 and it was really tough, but one of the most powerful aspects about it was knowing that us sharing it made other people feel more comfortable talking about it. Because so many families have gone through this, so many women have gone through this, and they felt seen, they felt heard, they felt validated in their own experience by seeing someone with such a huge platform talk about hers. Before I let you go, if people want to get involved in this new initiative, if people want to take action, if people want to get involved in the, as you say, the grassroots movements that will actually change how their cities work,
Starting point is 00:33:35 what can they do, how can they help Human Level? So they can visit our website, human level. We just launched it. In the site we describe site, the site, the site, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, site we described the work that we're doing and the fellows that we're working with and the cities we're working in and folks can get involved. And we want people to get involved and realize how much the local leaders matter in your community. And if you don't want to get involved in actually doing that kind of work, at least pay attention to what's happening in local elections.
Starting point is 00:34:02 Because folks on the other side are definitely doing that. They're going to school board meetings, they're making sure that elections officials are changing in those communities. We need to also, voices for inclusion, voices for progressive values, need to also be concerned about what's happening locally because so much of that impacts our daily lives. Well as always my friend it's a pleasure having you on the show. Thank you. So much for being here. Ain't too proud, returns to Broadway on October 16th,
Starting point is 00:34:31 and this man is part of the team that's putting it on. For more information on John's new initiative, go to the website below. We're gonna take a quick break, but we'll be right back after this. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. But that's all about to change.
Starting point is 00:34:59 Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes a second look on Apple podcasts starting September 17. Well that's our show for tonight but before we go if you're in Washington DC or Philadelphia this weekend my back to abnormal comedy tour is going to be in your city. Head to back to abnormal tour dot com to get your tickets. Until next week stay safe out there get your vaccine and remember
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Starting point is 00:36:45 When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes, a Second Look on Apple Podcasts starting September 17.

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