The Daily Show: Ears Edition - America's Gun Violence Debate | Kellyanne Conway

Episode Date: June 1, 2022

Trevor covers America's gun violence debate, Ronny Chieng celebrates Asian American and Pacific Islander Heritage Month, and Kellyanne Conway discusses her memoir "Here's the Deal."See omnystudio.com/...listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Comedy Central. Coming to you from New York City, the only city in America. It's the Daily Show. Tonight. Reloading the Gunn to be. Crazy athletic Asians. And Kelly Ann Conway. This is the Daily issue with Trevor Noah. Thank you so much for tuning in. Thank you for coming out and press.
Starting point is 00:00:45 Thank you for being here. Thank you so much. Take a scee, let's see. Let's be the state. We have got a jam-packed show for you today. We're going to be talking about what America is former advisor to President Donald Trump, Kelly Ann Conway. Yeah, so that's going to be interesting. So let's do this people. Let's jump straight into today's big headlines.
Starting point is 00:01:10 All right, there's no denying that there is a lot going on in the world right now. For instance, Russia is still invading Ukraine. And in response, the European Union has just announced that they will be banning thining thining th. So. So. So. So. So th. So th. So th. th. So th. the th. the thi. the thi. thi. thi. So thi. So thi. So thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, let's thi. So, let's thi. So, let's thi. So, let's thi. So, let's thi. So, let's th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thee. thi. thi. th. th. thi. the. the. the. the. the. th. th in the world right now. For instance, Russia is still invading Ukraine, and in response, the European Union has just announced that they will be banning almost all Russian oil imports, which is, if successful, is basically going to turn Russia's currency into the Tick-Tock crying filter all the time. And if this wasn't enough for Europe to be dealing with, there's the the disease thoom thoom thoom tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho with, there's also a growing outbreak of monkeypox. Yes. A disease that's killing off everyone's NFTs. So please, everyone, vaccinate your monkey.
Starting point is 00:01:51 Remember. And by the way, they're actually saying that it's being spread mostly through sex. Yeah. So at least now, when you show up to the doctor with monkeypox, your doctor can be like, my man. Oh, and on top of all of that, someone threw a cake at the Mona Lisa, yes, which apparently was to protest climate change. It sounded weird, but apparently most people don't know this about the Mona Lisa, but if you widen out on that picture of her, she's actually driving a hummer, not cool. That's where the picture is from. So, th, th, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th, th. th, th, th, th, th, th. th, th, th, th. th, th, th's, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. th. thi. th. th. this about the Mona Lisa, but if you widen out on that picture of her, she's actually driving a hummer, not cool. That's where the picture is from. So yeah, there's so much happening. So much happening in the world. But America
Starting point is 00:02:31 can't focus on any of that stuff, because once again, America is reeling from mass shootings. All the way from Buffalo, New York to Yvaldi, Texas. People are asking how long can this keep on. And here's the good news. In response, a major bill has been announced which would ban the new sales of handguns and allow the government to forcefully buy back assault rifles in Canada. Yeah, this is completely real. Canada saw what happened here, and they're shutting down guns there.
Starting point is 00:03:04 Yeah, at this point, America's is basically a scared straight program that gets other countries on the right path. Yeah, it's like you ever smell someone so bad, you know, that you decide that you need to take a shower? That's what America is with gun laws now to other countries. They're like, we need to do something about guns. And while most Americans, liberals and conservatives, are open to common sense restrictions on guns to keep Americans safe, there is still a small yet powerful group of gun f****s who believe the problem with gun violence is not because of guns. No, it's because of everything else. Part of the problem is how this generation the kids exist mostly online.
Starting point is 00:03:43 They see actual violence as is portrayed in the movies they watch, the music they listen to, in the games, the video games they play. When I played war growing up, my friends, the boys were allowed to be boys. I said to my friend Andy, bang, you're dead. But the differences, we knew it was fake. And Andy got up afterwards.
Starting point is 00:04:02 And we went and jumped in therant, or whoever had a pool. What? First of all, why do I feel like Andy's fake? And second of all, what is this loser talking about? Kids know that games are fake, my man. No one is turning off grand-theftotal. Shit, I just ran over 80 pedestrians. Should I get a lawyer? Oh my god, I'm too young for jail. What am I going to do?
Starting point is 00:04:26 The argument that American music and video games causes gun violence totally falls apart when you realize the entire world listens to American music and plays American video games. Yeah, but they have nowhere the same level of America's mass shootings. And don't get a twist it. It's the same music. It's not like in Sweden there, Snoop Dog is like, Rattat-Tat-Tah, and I never hesitate to put a hat on a cat. It's the same music, why they're not getting the same results. And please, please, gun fanatics, they don't just want to ban video games and music. No, no, it's going further. They also want to replace those things with what they say are some lost values. The only solution is Christ Jesus and being able to get some type of spirituality and prayer
Starting point is 00:05:08 back into our schools. Right now today we live in a country where our millennials participation rate for churches is under 30% in a lot of locations. This is the lowest church participation we've ever had as a nation. And so it just shows you why you see so much chaos in our streets. I mean, that could be one solution. We need to bring Jesus into our schools.
Starting point is 00:05:32 I mean, I don't know how Jesus would feel about that. Yeah, because if I was Jesus, I'd be like, yo, forget that. Look at what you guys did to me with nails. I'm not coming back when there's guns. Got air 15? Shit, I learned my lesson. But again, if you think gun violence in America is high because people aren't going to church, then why don't they have the same gun violence in Europe? Because there, nobody goes to church. It's like a thing that's done now.
Starting point is 00:05:58 If you go to church in Germany, you'll be the only one there. Even the preacher will be will be like will be like will be like will be like will be like will be like will be like will be like will be like will be like will be like the preacher will be like the preacher will be like the preacher will be like the preacher will be Even the preacher will be like, ah! Oh, geez, you scared the shit out of me. Nobody comes in here anymore. I even forgot there was a door. Oh, oh, oh my God, that was crazy. Oh. The point is, gun lovers have been blaming the same causes over and over again for decades, although this time, to their credit, they've come up with a new thing to blame. It's not the guns. It's books. the books. the books. the books. the books. thkk. thk. thoqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. tho. tho. tho. tho. thi. thi. tho. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the thi. thi. the. the the. to to to to to toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. their their their the. their credit, they've come up with a new thing to blame. It's not the guns, it's the books. We stop teaching values in so many of our schools. Now we're teaching wakness. We're indoctrining our children with things like CRT. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:06:36 That's how evil critical race theory is. It's only been around for like a year, and it's already caused three decades of school shootings. It's really tough. It goes back in time. It's so powerful. Look, man, I know you guys want to blame anything but guns, but it still has to make sense. Can we agree on that? You can't just blame stuff that you are already mad at. These guys are like, maybe there wouldn't be so many, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:59 violent shootings in schools if my wife would stop flirting with the landscaper. I mean, is it just me? They're making it sound like they used to be a lesson that was about the importance of not shooting people, but they never got to it because they spent too long on teaching slavery. This doesn't make any sense. And if it's not religion, and if it's not video games, and it's not the music, what else could it be? Well, according to some gun lovers, maybe it was the school's fault. One of the things that everyone agreed is don't have all of these unlocked back doors, have one door into and out of the school. I would like to see this a national push toward, instead of parents buying their kids, all these tools and toys and games, invest in the classroom to make it safer.
Starting point is 00:07:42 They have blankets that you can put up on the wall that are colorful and beautiful, but they're ballistic blankets. We need to install man traps, a series of interlocking doors at the school entrance that are triggered by a trip wire. The trip wire can be a gunshot, broken glass, a manual switch tossed by a school employee, and it traps the shooter like a rat. Are these people hearing themselves? You think kids can't tell fantasy from reality, but your suggestions like, how about we make a school with steel doors that slam and windows that turn into concrete or even better the whole
Starting point is 00:08:25 school becomes a transformer. Yeah, so that way when the school shooter comes, the whole school can run away from it. Not to mention, have you guys ever been in a school? You realize the fire alarm gets pulled as a prank like once a week, you think the jocks aren't going to be constantly tossing nerds into the man trap? Do you listen to yourselves? And even if those ideas don't work, even if they don't, there's one solution that conservatives love to come back to time and time again. And over the weekend, it was proposed yet again by none other than Donald Jahad
Starting point is 00:09:04 Trump. What we need now is a top-to-bottom security overhaul at schools all across our country. And above all, from this day forward, every school in America should have a police officer or an armed resource officer on duty at all times. Yeah, yeah, you know you always hear people saying this after a school shooting. What we need is armed police officers in the school. What's amazing about the debate this time is that they're still saying it, even though in the shooting that just happened, there was an armed police officer and it didn't help.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Yeah, classic Trump proposing a solution after it already failed. I mean, he would have been a lot of fun in the lifeboats after the Titanic. Next time we should just ram that iceberg really hard. What's the worst that could happen? What do you think, Jack? What do you think? What do you think? And as we've all heard by now, there wasn't just an armed resource officer on the scene. There was a whole platoon of police officers who responded to the shooting, but didn't do shit to stop it while it was still going on.
Starting point is 00:10:17 And I'm willing to guess, it's because they were also shit scared of a gunman armed with an AR-15. I feel like that's where we have to ask ourselves. As a society, do we want to live in a world where anyone can legally buy weapons that the police are scared of? Huh? And just by the way, just by the way, for me, it's been amazing to see how some people love guns so much that they've gone from Blue Lives Matter to screw these bitch-ass cops. If they're not here to get shot, then what's the point of having them around? F. the police. Oh, now you don't care about the cops' lives?
Starting point is 00:10:52 Like, I don't know. Maybe it's just me. I would rather say get rid of the AR-15s and make these officers' jobs a lot more safe. Maybe it's just me. It's wild how people flip. You just flip whenever you feel like it. It's also crazy how the cops didn't do anything. Right? They shoot people because they think they have a gun. And then now they're like, they know it's a gun. They're like, well, can't shoot them.
Starting point is 00:11:18 If it's a wallet, maybe, but I mean... So look, I know that America is never going to do what Canada is doing. I don't even expect that. There's a gun culture in this country that is far too ingrained to ever truly get rid of it. And I also know that we're not going to stop gun violence altogether. I'm not naive. But I would hope, I would just hope that after a tragedy like this, Americans could agree that losing some of these is worth it to prevent losing more of these. Don't go away, because after the break, Ronnie Chang is celebrating AAPI month and Kelly
Starting point is 00:11:53 Ann Conway will be joining us on the show. We'll be right back. Welcome back to the daily show. Throughout the month of May, people have been celebrating Asian-American and Pacific Islander Heritage Month. And tonight, for the last day of May, Ronnie Chang decided to school us the way only he can. People have been celebrating Asian-American and Pacific Islander Heritage Month. And tonight, for the last day of May, Ronnie Chang decided to school us the way only he can. That's right, people. We've got our own month. And in honor of AAPI Month, I'm going to teach you about the most underrepresented demographic of all time.
Starting point is 00:12:37 Asian Americans in sports. And I don't just mean the heavy hitters, like Jeremy Lynn, Michelle Kwan, Tiger Woods. Yeah, we're claiming him. You got a problem with that? Take it up with the UN. Instead, I want to focus on the underdogs who blazed the trail for all the other Asian-American athletes to come. People like Wally Yonamine, the Japanese American't suck at one of them. Also, he never became
Starting point is 00:13:05 a crying meme. Why you sad? You're Michael Jordan. First, in 1947, Yonamine became a running back for the San Francisco 49ers. But in the wake of World War II, he faced a ton of discrimination, even while he was playing. When he would get tackled, the opposing team would punch and kick him. Do you realize how insane that is? I mean, it's football. Everyone's going home with brain damage already. You don't need to force it. After a wrist injury in 1951, Yonamine decided to switch to baseball.
Starting point is 00:13:35 He moved to Japan to play for the Yomeyuri to be inducted into the Japanese Baseball Hall of Fame. Crazy thing is, Yonamine faced racism in Japan too, but this time because it was American. At games the fans were chant Yankee Go home, which is normally something you expected here only at Red Sox games or honestly any place in Boston that serves out for us. But enough about baseball let's talk about something people actually watch. The Olympics. In 1948, Victoria Manalo Dres became the first AAPI Olympic champion.
Starting point is 00:14:13 But being Filipino, she also faced a lot of discrimination. In fact, when she was younger and she used a public pool, the town assholes would drain the water after she swam in it, which isn't just racist, it's idiotic. You're going to double your water bill just because you're afraid of catching being Asian? You can't even get that from a pool. You have to share the same straw, dumbasses. But against the odds, Manalo won her gold medal in the women's three-meter springboard. And she was cheered on by diver Sammy Lee, the first Asian American man to win an Olympic gold medal. That's right, the first two AAPI gold medals at the same games. It was like Asian Christmas. Which is just Christmas. But not every Asian who brought the color barrier had a happy
Starting point is 00:14:54 ending. In 1948, Larry Kwong became the first non-white player in the NHL when he joined the New York Rangers. But they only put him on ice for a minute and he never played in another game again, which sucks, but breaking the color barrier is like losing your virgin. Even if he only did it for a second, it still counts. Another great first happened in 1927 when Walter Archu became the first person of East Asian descent to play in the NFL. Because his last name was Archu, he earned the nickname Sneeze. Sadly, this was before athlete sponsorships were a thing. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So, so. So, so. So, so. So, so, so, so, so, the the the th. the th. th. th. the th. th. the th. the th. th. the th. the the the thi. thi, thi, the thi, the thi, th. th. th. th. th. But, th. But, th. But, th. But, th. But, th. But, the the the the the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi. thi. thi. the thi. the the the the the thei. thei. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the the thi. the the th NFL. Because his last name was Archu, he earned the nickname Sneeze. Sadly, this was before athlete sponsorships were a thing. So he couldn't even get that sweet, sweet Kleenex money.
Starting point is 00:15:32 Eventually, he retired from the NFL to compete in a safer sport. Wrestling. Proving that Asians can roll around with our balls in someone's face just like everyone else. But let's move on to my personal favorite sport, basketball. The first non-white player of any race in NBA history was Japanese-American Wataru Misaka. In 1947, he was the first draft pick of the New York Knicks, and they even promoted his skills to sell tickets. But shocker, he faced a lot of anti-Japanese sentiment and only ended up playing three games.
Starting point is 00:16:05 It was so bad he decided to go back to school to get his engineering degree. Which I respect. He was basically like, Oh, you don't like me being Asian? Well, I'm going to be extra Asian now, bitches. But sports isn't just about the athletes. There's so many other people who've made history without destroying their joints. People like Kim-Un, who became the general the general the general the general the general the general their their their their their their their their the destroying their joints. People like Kim Ung, who became the general manager of the Miami Marlins, making her the first female GM in any major American men's league.
Starting point is 00:16:30 She worked away up the latter facing racism and sexism. It's the surf and turf of discrimination. So now you know, there's been so many unsung Asian sports heroes in history. Don't bother thanking me. My meager teacher salary is thanks enough. And yes, this is all going to be on the final. Happy AAPI month, idiots. Ronnie Chang, everybody. All right, when we come back, form to my advisor to President Trump, Kelly Ann Conway is joining me on the Daily Show. My guest tonight served as Donald Trump's campaign manager in 2016 and would become one of President Trump's
Starting point is 00:17:09 longest serving aides. Welcome back to the Daily Show. My guest tonight served as Donald Trump's campaign manager in 2016 and would become one of President Trump's longest serving aids. She's here to talk about that and her new memoir, Here's The Deal. Please welcome, Kelly Ann Conway. Thank you for having me. Killy Ann Conway, welcome to the Daily Show. Thank you for having me.
Starting point is 00:17:41 You know, there are a few guests I have on my show that get me more people asking the question why. You know, that's what people I said, Kille-Anne Conway is gonna be on the show, and people like, why? Why have Killeen Conway on? And then, you know, some of my friends are like, oh, she's gonna lie to you, that. Why? Because they think they know me. They think the caricature is real and they don't want to hear from people who disagree with them. I don't think that that's completely
Starting point is 00:18:10 true. I think it's very true of many people. I think it's because people get frustrated, especially in America because they feel like they're being toyed with. And I'm not putting this all on you, by the way. I actually found the book interesting because there were parts of the book that I feel like illuminated stories that you never told, or parts of being in the Trump presidency that nobody knew about. And I guess maybe that's like the first question I had about your job and what you were doing with President Trump, and that is, when you're working in the White House, and you had the position that you had, when you're working for an administration,
Starting point is 00:18:46 do you feel like there are times when you have to lie to protect the president, or do you feel like you have to do that because you're furthering a greater good? No, not, none of the above. First of all, the president offered me, the president o'd be a terrible press secretary I'm not even sure what they do and so I didn't want to press
Starting point is 00:19:09 or comm's job. I took a policy job but I kept getting pulled out, to speak on behalf of the White House on behalf of the same question, why would you go on this show? Why do you deal with that anchor? They're not fair to you. They only prefer Democrats, et cetera. And I say, look, the anchors are never really my audience. The people are the audience. There are folks out there, they're forgotten, man, forgotten child. Who would not their everyday lives. But there were many times I didn't speak. There were many things I didn't address.
Starting point is 00:19:45 I either felt that I was not the expert on them or I didn't have all the answers. But I would note that all the smart men around me did not go on TV, did not come and face the music, did not come and explain. I was almost like their mop-up girl and spokes, I their, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was their, I was th. their, I was th. th. tho, I was thtook, I was tho, I was tho, I was thed, I was th. th. th. th, I was th, I was th, I was th, I was th, I was th, I was th, I was th, I was th, I was th, I was th, I was th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that, I was that, I was that, I was thr. thr. thr. thr. theean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, theean, thean, I was theethat they can be behind the scenes, working on important policy. I have to tell you, even this White House, when it started the Biden-Harris White House, they said, look at us, we have a 100% female press
Starting point is 00:20:12 and comp shop and shop, and I felt, well, of course you do, because the women don't get as many policy. And that's what I wanted I to to to to do I I I I I to the to do I the to do I the the the to do I the the the to do I the to do I was I was I was I wa. I wa. I wanted I wanted I wanted the the the the the the to do the the to do. the the the the to do. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thoes. thoes. threat. threat. threat. threat. threat. threat. threat. the. threat. the. threat. the. threat. the. theatseats. thea. theats. the. the the Tax Cut and Jobs Act. I worked on the opioid crisis. I worked on education, health care reform. The list goes on and on. And you find out in these public service jobs, Trevor, that you can help make a difference in people's lives. And I think that many of the Trump Pence accomplishments have done exactly that. We were better off economically, energy-wise. Puton was not sal Iran was not salivating at Israel, and the list goes on the
Starting point is 00:20:46 list goes on. Wait, wait, wait, no, no, forgive me. No, no, how much did you pay for gas today? No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, forgive me, because you're And I really, I don't want to have a confrontational conversation with you because when I was reading the book it felt like more of a conversation with you as a person. So okay, let me ask it this way. So here you have a situation where in the book, in the book, you talk about how you're,
Starting point is 00:21:16 oftentimes, a voice of about in the book how you said to Donald Trump, hey, you lost the election. You have lost this election. What I actually said was, we were talking about the December 14th deadline. That was the date by which the electors would certify the election. And they were about to certify it for Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. And in the six weeks prior to that, that, that, that, that, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the to the to th, the to to the the thi, thi, to, thi, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, thi, the too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, to too, too, too, too, too, thu, thu, thu, the the th, the the the th, th, th, th, to th, to to thu and, thu and, the thu and, the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thru.eu.ea.ea.ea.ea.ea, too.ea, too.e, tho, tho, tho prior to that, I had long left the White House, but in the six weeks prior to that, the President and his legal team were trying to find proof of theft and fraud and malfeasance and shenanigans. And I think there are many unanswered questions from 2020 we'll never know. But the main thing you said to him was. But I said you're coming up short. It looks like you're coming up that you're coming up th. It's like th. It's like to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the to to the thi. thi. thi. the. the. the the thi. to find the the to find the to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to to to to find th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the th. the. the the the the. the the. the the the the the the thr. the the the the the the the the the thra. the the throoooooooo, don't go to other people. Wait, wait, honestly. To go to January 6th and do a different certification. No, I don't
Starting point is 00:22:07 talk about January 6th though. I'm saying in this case, this is what I'm saying is interesting is you said this in the book, right? I'm talking about a now issue. You said th to me. She never told me that I lost. And if she told me that, I would have fired her on the spot. So let's say like in that instance, it's you, it's Donald Trump. So who's telling the truth? He didn't use the words liar or fire, but what he said was I wouldn't have dealt with her anymore. That's not a good criterion to deal with. that he came up short and it broke my heart. I wish you were still the president because things were much better. So you're saying you did tell him? And so he's, when he's saying he was coming up short for December 14th.
Starting point is 00:22:50 Right. But I'm saying, but this is what I'm saying, but then other people had. Well, no, I'm very candid and very honest. And by the way, this is not one of the tell, tell, tell, tell, tell, tell, tell, tel, tel, tel, tha, thea, thea, thea, thea, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, tell, tell, thea, thi, hea, he's he's he's coming, hea, hea, he was coming, he was coming, he was coming, he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he, he he he, he he, he, he he, he he, he. t, he. t. t. t. t. t. t. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi, he was coming. tttttel. tell, he was coming, he was coming, tell, toda, tell, tttell, tell, tell, he was coming. th. thi. he. he. he. he. my memoir. There's 500 pages in there. Yes. My life story, certainly time is campaign manager, making history is the first female campaign manager and senior councilor the president and what that meant. Allow me to move through it step by step. I promise you I'm going to get to those parts. What I'm asking you, so I think you've answered in heart to tell. I don't think everything was completely fair and transparent. No, no, no, no, I'm not asking you about that. You see, you're doing the Kelly uncommon.
Starting point is 00:23:27 You see, the people are right now with me. The people who said to me, she's going to do the thing to you, you're doing the truth, as in you told one side of the story, Donald Trump told another side of his story. And what you're telling me is, you're saying his side of the story is not true. I'm telling you that I told him before the December 14th deadline that they were coming up short. So maybe this is what I'm trying to say. In this book, what I found thiolm particularly particularly particularly particularly particularly particularly particularly particularly particularly particularly particularly particularly particularly particularly particularly particularly particularly particularly particularly particularly particularly particularly particularly interesting interesting interesting interesting interesting in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in into the Trump White House and how it worked or how sometimes it didn't work. You know, you've had some of the more scathing opinions on people like Jared Kushner, for instance. You don't mince your words in the book about Jared,
Starting point is 00:24:13 you know, or Steve Bannon. And it, you know, it feels like you, you felt like at times they, you know, got away with not being as good at the job as you felt they should.... I think if the president, your boss in a workplace, asked you to work together as a team, you should try to do that. And this just happened to be the West Wing, so it was very important that people be collaborative and not confrontational. I felt that, not I felt, not I felt. There was a lot of undercutting, if if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the the. the, and, the the the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, you, you, you, the, you, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the. the. the. the. the. the. t. t. to. to. to. t. t. too. too. t. too. t. t. to. t. to. to. t. t. t. t. stuff going on also. And it happened at the very beginning.
Starting point is 00:24:46 And here's someone who, you know, along with George, my husband, made a decision to move to Washington, D.C., move our children there. He too took a big job in the Trump administration. We have that in common. And we're doing all this, and I think a lot of women in the workplace will relate to this try, right? Two choices. I can sort of slink away or cry under the desk and hope the emotional shrapnel doesn't hit me or I can hold my head high and forge ahead and try to be one small molecule that's working for positive change. In the end, I mean a lot of those guys got fired, slinked away and didn't their their their thane, thane, thane, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, th, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, their thin, thin, thin, thin, or I their their their emotional their emotional thin, or I thin, or I their emotional their emotional their emotional their emotional their their their, or I the emotional the emotional their, or I their, or I their, or I their, or I their, or I their, or I the emotional, or I their, or I the emotional, or I their, or I their their, or I their their their their their s an emotional thin, or I thin, or I thin, or I can tape ss, or I can't scombs, or I tapote, or I tapot-s an emotional somorrow try thr-s, or I thronge, or I think in many cases my balls were bigger and in the show.
Starting point is 00:25:27 In fact, actually, to that point, let's talk about the guns here. So this is a moment. You were an advisor to the president. This is what I find interesting. One of my strangest moments even during the show was when Donald Trump, President Donald Trump came out and he said, there was a mass shooting, and he said, you know what we need to do? We need to raise the age limit. He said, we need to ban assault rifles. He said, you Republicans who don't want to do it,
Starting point is 00:25:53 you're scared of the NRA, he came out. He had all of these measures, which I said, even on the show, I was like, Many were shocked. But then we've learned recently that there were some of his insiders who convinced him. I think like Mick Mulvaney was one of them who said, don't do it, you're going to lose if you're doing. Trump said, I don't care we need to do this. And he got convinced out of it. Now, I would love to know from your perspective.
Starting point is 00:26:16 How did the team convince him. Everyone said, you can't build a wall. He said, I'm going to go and build this wall. You can't ban Muslims. He's like, I'm going to find a way to do it. How did they convince him? What do we not know about the gun lobby in the gun world that they managed to push Donald Trump away from his initial position? Well, respectfully, the Senate, they didn't come to the Senate, they didn't reach his desk. A president has to sign into law things that the United States Congress has the guts to put there and they did not. Now I also want to say this, I was there for Parkland.
Starting point is 00:26:53 I was there after the Parkland Valentine's Day 2018. And by the way, I'm not blaming Trump by the way. I'm just asking how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how he he he he he he he he. I th. I th. I was how he. I was how he. I was how he was how he. I was. I was how he he. I was how he was how he was how he was how he was how how he. I was how how he. I was how he. I was how he he he he he he he he he he he. I was how how he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I'm not. I'm not. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I'm not. I was. I was. I was. I was, Texas when there was a shooting there, eight children were killed, eight high schoolers and two teachers there. And what I learned the entire time is that people are very quick to say it's this problem, it's that problem, it's actually a spectrum. You know, it's never one thing that causes it. And it's never one thing that can solve it. Again, if you've got a president's been there for 50 years, I hope he will, because he can say... No, no, I hope he can. I know you're probably booing him. No, no, no, no. Donald Trump was there.
Starting point is 00:27:30 No, no. This is what I'm saying, I'm saying to you, I'm saying. I'm saying to you, I'm saying to you as, I'm saying to you is, in the position that you are in, and the position that you may find yourself in again, because you do have the ear of many powerful Republicans, you do have, you know, you're in the rare position of speaking to Donald Trump and Mike Pence right now. You're one of the few people who is the connective tissue of many parts of many parts of the new. And so maybe I would even ask you then as an advisor now, what are some of the common sense ideas that you think could be passed? Because I think these are moments that shouldn't be Republican or Democrat. These are just children. Do you get what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:28:11 You just said the most important word here. I know people talk about guns and mental health and hardening the targets. I'm thinking through the vantage point of the children. I'm, I, I, I, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, than, than, their, their, thin, their, their, their, their, thin, thinks, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I the, the, the, thinks, thinks, thinks, thinks, thinks, thinks, their thinks, thinks, thinks, thinks, thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks th in listening to the Parkland families. I learned that after the Dayton shooter had his juvenile records were kept private, in other words, his privacy versus security of other people. I learned that when we looked at Parkland and you saw the FBI had visited many times and nobody ever did anything. These people, these mowd people, these motted, their broadcasts their thia, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and then, and then, and then, and thi, and their, and then, and then, their, and then, and then, and their, and their, and their, and their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, and their, their, and their, and their, and their, and their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their theaugheathomenknateuiiiii, their, their, their, evil people, they usually broadcast their intention, they're bragging about I want to be a school shooter, look at me, and so we should take that seriously. I mean here they say if you see something, say something, they mean a backpack in the subway. I think the people who are around these folks and are free to the authority and the the theirtea, I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I their their their their their th. their th. Ik, Ik, Ik, Ik, Ik, Ik, I th, I th, I th, I the, I the, I the, I the, I the, I the, I the, I the, I the, I the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thean, their, thean, their, their, thean, their, their, they their, their, they they're their, their, their, thean, under cover of privacy, go to the authorities, and report that. Here's what I think should happen with the children.
Starting point is 00:29:06 You know, Trevor, if we just acted with the same gusto to protect our children from violence in the schools that we did to protect them from the virus, which we should have done. We now have $112 billion in last year's American Rescue Plan and post-pandemn for the schools. 92% of it, according to the Wall Street Journal last week, is unspent. Why? Well, because they already did the ventilation, they already did the stickers, we already did the masks. Now we're moving on to, it's earmarked for mental health.
Starting point is 00:29:33 It's earmark for more teachers and counselors. It's earmarked for lost learning. billion just here in New York City, the largest school district in the country, and it's not spent yet because it expires in September 2024. They're trying to figure out how to do it. Let's take that money. It's already been passed and approved by the president. Let's take that money and shift it over to keeping our kids safe in these schools. My goodness, we have, we keep nothing on the side of guns. No, no, I'm saying, thing, thing, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, I'm saying, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the th. thi, thi, let's the thi, let's thi, let's thi, let's thi, let's th. thi, let's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Let, let's th. Let, let's th. Let, let's thi, let's thi, let's thi, let's the the the the thi, let's the thi, let's that, let's that, let's that, thee. thea. thea. thea. the thea. thea. the. Let's that have taken action where Washington has not. In fact, the state of Florida with a Republican state legislative, Republican Governor Rick Scott, passed red flag laws after Parkland, Florida. So it is possible as people are saying do something, say something, to do something. And I don't know what's going
Starting point is 00:30:18 to happen in Congress. I'd like to feel more hopeful that people will come to their senses and thi. th. their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their, to to their, to their, to to their, to to to to to to to to to be to be to be their, to be to bea. to bea. to be. to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the the their, the. the. theathea. theathea. toea. toe. toe. their, toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. come to their senses and think about how to keep these kids safe because it should not be an occupational hazard for any child to go to school and to fear for their lives, obviously, or their safety. But there are so many signs along the way and people should feel free. Instead of judging everybody's social media post and calling everybody names and cance people. Why don't we say, that person's slinging an AR-15 online, saying he aspires to be a school shooter, half the class is afraid of him,
Starting point is 00:30:50 why don't we do something about that? So I think it's all that. And I was disappointed to hear Senator Chris Murphy of Connecticut say last week, don't give me the bullshit, we don't have any more mental health problems in other countries. Excuse me, it is a big problem here. Maybe in other countries too, but we have to look at that. We have to start investing in that. So yes, I believe in the case of Buffalo, there was a red flag should have been triggered and the authorities did not do anything about it, the Buffalo shooter. Here in Yvaldi, this murderer, this murderer, thiner, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. to to toeeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. thii I believe, there were warning signs and
Starting point is 00:31:25 people were afraid of him and they said he would you know torture cats and brag about I'm going to rape you I'm going to be a school shooter I think you have to take people like that seriously and not just look the other way so there is a whole spectrum of solutions that we should look at. So if I hear what you're saying, if're saying is if you look at these red flags if you look at these moments ahead of time you can find reasons to restrict people from gaining access to guns because you're saying we see that this is not conducive to society. Not everybody should have it because if you're operating a machine just like having a you know any
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Starting point is 00:32:36 or your place of work, and the kids playground. We have much more uncommon in this beautiful country filled with amazing people than people realize but these cultural cleavages are very real. And we have to, we have to confront that and we have to, I think deal with that. Look, if Donald Trump wants to be president again, the simplest path is not to look backward, it's to run against Joe Biden. He can have a cage match rematch. And I think people will pay attention that. That's what's wants to do. That's the smoothest easiest path. That's the smoothest, easiest path if he really wants to do that. But we have to
Starting point is 00:33:10 also respect that the growing number of people in this country, they are upset with what's going on in Washington. They feel excluded from the process, excluded from the system. Can I tell you what I think happens in America that's particularly interesting is America is one of the few countries I've lived in where politicians complain about politics being a tool that should be used to change a country when they are in the position of changing the country using that politics. Yes. It's been great having you on the shot. I could chat for hours.
Starting point is 00:33:40 Thank you very much for joining me. Not many people would. Kelly Ann's's's's's's, the the deal's, the deal's, the deal, the the the deal, the the deal, the the their, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thethe time that we have. Thank you so much for joining me. Not many people would. Kelly Ann's memoir, here's the deal is available right now. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back after this. Thank you very much for being here. Thank you very much for gun safety. There are movements of parents, students, survivors, educators, gun owners, and concerned citizens fighting to end gun violence and build safer communities. Research shows that common sense public safety policies can reduce gun violence and save lives. Every town works with local, federal and state governments to enact and implement
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