The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Basketball Feat. Candace Parker & Scoop Jackson | Roy's Job Fair

Episode Date: March 31, 2022

On Roy's Job Fair, Comedian Roy Wood Jr. (correspondent on Comedy Central’s The Daily Show with Trevor Noah) explores the human condition every week through the prism of employment. In this episode,... WNBA Champion Candace Parker breaks down her WORST & FIRST jobs babysitting and discusses the steps parents should take when raising a gifted athlete. Then Roy sits down with high school basketball prodigy Jaylen Martin who quit his high school team to join a first-of-its-kind FOR PAY basketball/academic institution, Overtime Elite. Jaylen's mom, Kimberly, walks us through the calculations she made as a mother before allowing her son to pursue this alternate path to pro basketball that foregoes not only the NCAA but high school athletics all together. Finally, in the SCAM OF THE WEEK segement, ESPN Press Room veteran Robert "Scoop" Jackson discusses some of the wild goose chases he was sent on during his early days at ESPN. He also details how chasing an NBA dream itself can be a scam if the players aren't focused. Hear all new episode of Roy's Job Fair every Wednesday wherever you get your podcasts.  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, what's up, Daily Show Ears Edition, listeners. It's Roywood Jr. coming to you while the Daily Show is on break. You're about to hear an episode of my podcast, Roy's Job Fair. Now, it's a podcast, all we do is talk about employment and explore the human condition through that lens. The episode you're about to hear is all about the world of basketball. Candice Parker who gets paid to play it. E spie and the their their their their their their their their their th. th. th. th. th. tha. tha. tha. tha. thuice thuice thuice thuspapapapapapapap thozyp. thozyp. thozyp. thozy. thozy. toozy. toozymea. toozymea. toozymea. toozymea. toozymea. toozymea. the their. their. their. their. their. their. their. thozy. toozy. to. to. toozy. toozy. to. toozy. toozy. toozy. toooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. tooo. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. toooo ESP and Scoop Jackson who gets paid to cover it, and a mother who is raising a basketball prodigy.
Starting point is 00:00:27 If you like it, don't miss new episodes every Wednesday and be sure to tell a friend. It's available on the IHart Radio App, Apple podcast and wherever you get your podcast. Start my podcast. You're listening to Comedy Central. Now hiring. J.G. Did you know that there is a shortage of Mall Santas this year? No. I didn't know that. Yes.
Starting point is 00:00:57 And even more short, Black Mall Santas. Shout out to Donna Oglesby, a listener of the fine radio acoustical presentation. Uh, sent us this to let us know. Ralph, have you ever thought about being a Mall Santa? Has that ever been? No cup of tea? No. Lying to strangers children? No. I barely like going into the mall during Christmas because I find during Christmas when people at their eyes are at their highest level of asshole. No, people are super nice to me. Well then J. D. J. D. D. then damage you be a black Santa. You always talking about
Starting point is 00:01:43 you always talk about glass ceilings and, come on, why you're getting no black women Santa? Because I have to take my great niece to see a black Santa so I'm already preparing myself for when she doesn't want to sit on his lap, he's going to ask me to sit on his lap. I already know how this going. You gonna sit. Yeah, I'm gonna sit.
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Starting point is 00:02:41 Thickin, the money twirkin! My name is Roy. This is my job, thi. You are so wrong. A little Christmas time here. Jacqueline's all happy. Me and Ralph are kind of... You can tell when people ain't got kids. They don't know. Bruggs. I'm trying to tell you. ain't got kids, they don't know.
Starting point is 00:03:05 I'm trying to tell you, they change, they change it all. I used to love Christmas. I still love Christmas. I ain't going to front. But like now, now you got churins and you got to do things for other people that are relatives for Christmas that you can't do for yourself. Christmas is what you make it. And also I don't buy. I the gifts th th th. I to to to th. I to th. I to to th. I to th. I to to to th. I th to th th th th th to th th to th. I'm to to to to to to to to to the I to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they th. I th. I th. I th th th th th th th. I the. I the. I'm try. I'm try. I tell tell tell tell tell tell tell try. I try tell try. I try. I'm try. I'm try.'t do for yourself. Christmas is what you make it and also I don't buy gifts just so we're all aware I'm just in that spirit of being nice and having hot cocoa and there's chilly on the stove and oh wait a minute wait a minute you don't make it do you make the gift? No. So I show up. You're just happy for the season, but you don't really give a gift or make a gift. Oh my God, you're the worst. You're the happy aunt that don't bring shit?
Starting point is 00:03:55 Absolutely nothing but the smile. And I'm like, hi babies. They also, all three of my nephews, they split whatever is left over once my demise happened. So they got a point. Wait, so, so inheritance is not a Christmas gift. You can't substitute that. I'm not buying them anything. They know that.
Starting point is 00:04:19 What the, they don't stop. What are you talking about all this jolly hallmark movie-ass spirit you got? I love it. And you don't do the one the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most most the most most most the most most most most the most most the most most the most most most the most the most most the most the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the the the the the the the the the demise the demise the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, most, most, the most, most, most, the most, most, the most, the most, the most, the most the most, the most the most the most you talking about all this jolly hallmark movie-ass spirit you got? I love it. And you don't do the one thing that's the most the most important part of Christmas is the gift. No, not buying them something. I give them me. I'm there. I'm happy. I'm smiling at them. I love them. Oh my lord. That's it. I'm not buying them anything and they know that. T th. That. That. That. That. That. That. That. That. That. That. That's. That's. That's. That's. the the the the their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. I. I. I. I. I. I. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. the most. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I's. I. I's. I's. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the most. the the the most. the the most. the the most. the most. I's. I's. the anything and they know that. The one thing we do do on this show though, every now and then we have a theme. And we've been, you know, this is a good little street kid. We had a couple Jesus weeks. We had an international run there and now we get to talk about basketball. My favorite sport. Basketball is my favorite sport. Third, did you play basketball organized growing up?
Starting point is 00:05:09 I try. I know you get up every day at 5.30 in the morning. Please explain this shit to me and J.G. Because periodically on this podcast, just in passing, you'll go, yeah, I got it at 5.30 to play basketball. Anyway, let's keep talking about, and we never have time to settle to to to the to the to their. their. their. their. their. their. the f. their. th. th. th. the f. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the f. the f. the f. the f. the the the th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. 530 to play basketball. Anyway, let's keep talking about, and we never have time to settle in and ask you, why the fuck as a grown man? Oh my gosh. Why, I'm just, as a fellow brother in his 40s, why is the tip time 530 in the morning?
Starting point is 00:05:40 All right, because the gym opens at 5.15, and they figured that everybody's gonna be late. So, the they, they, they, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, I, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, though, though, though, I's, I's, thi, though, though, though, though, though, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, th, th, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, that, thi, that, that, that, that, thi, that, thi's, that, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they. And, ththey figured that everybody's going to be late so 515 would be too early so we started at 530. There's a level of dedication that I have to respect with that because I don't is it the sport of basketball or is it the camaraderie. Well up here up here where I'm at now is definitely the sport because I felt like I was sitting around becoming a bit of a fat ass and and and that literally was what it boiled down to I needed to play to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. the th. the the th. the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. teeea. tea. tea. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the the the the the th I felt like I was sitting around becoming a bit of a fat ass and that literally was what it boiled down to I needed to play ball. That's what it began as. What ends up happening though is the more you go to end up playing with a bunch of dudes you don't know is you'll end up at least knowing each other's names and for the most part. We don't discuss each other's work. We know that one or two two two two two two two two two two two to discuss each to discuss two the to discuss to discuss two the to discuss the to discuss to discuss to discuss their to discuss their to discuss their to discuss. to discuss. to discuss. to discuss. to discuss. to discuss each their their. their. to discuss each to to to to to to be. to be. to discuss each. We. We. We' to discuss each to discuss each to be. We' their. We' their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their their their their their their their their their their th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. toe. the. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. to thi. the. to one or two of the people had a kid, but for the most part, when the game starts. Did you have a kid? That was six years ago.
Starting point is 00:06:28 All right, well, all right. Pass the ball, food. Like, you know what I'm saying? It's just like that. And so far, up here, the only reason that I'm playing so the the try and the and everything where you pay in to take care of the rent of the gym and you meet up every Wednesday night and you play and I played with those dudes for almost like 15, 20 years.
Starting point is 00:06:54 I never enjoyed playing pick up basketball. I figured out real early on that I do not have the personality for basketball. Basketball, the way you play basketball, I think, is extremely reflective of your approach to life. In a lot of ways, if you're taking problems head on, you're challenging people, or if you're a facilitator and you pass the ball to a lot of people. I am out on the wings, passing, doing the dirty work, I'm trying to rebound. I'm trying to box out so somebody else can be great. But it just, I don't know, it was it was just too competitive, motherfuck is in you face the whole game sweating on you and shit.
Starting point is 00:07:33 I, I, before I ever drank, before I ever smoked my first high and my first thing to call me down was basketball. And when I played on my first organized team, my father was my coach. Shout out Ralph Jr. I know you're going to hear it is. Evil self. But the first time, listen, this is why he was evil, but he was a genius. He's a genius. My dad is a genius. That's like a recipe for disaster coaching your son. It's either great or terrible. So the first team recipe th team recipe thin recipe thin recipe thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the the thi, the thi, I thi, I thi, I the thi, I the the the the the the thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thr- I thr- I thr- I thr- I thr- I thr-I, thr. thr. thr. thr. throooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. th. th. th. th in between. So the first team we played on, we was in Fort Gordon, and the first time I scored a basket in a game, I celebrated like I was playing NFL football. I spiked the ball, which gave the other team a point and they scored, but I was still dancing and they came back, scored another point. So my father bench me. That team went on, that team went on to win the championship for that season and I never played again. And my dad said, your team.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Yeah, my team. My dad, I said, well, why didn't I get back in? He was like, because this wasn't for you. He was like, if you wouldn't have celebrated, you know, and so like for years, for years, I played basketball to prove to my dad that basketball was indeed for me. And it wasn't until I got old enough to kind of realize all of the politics and all the stuff that was going on. I was like, damn, this man was a genius. I should have quit this shit like three years ago. But, you know, I literally try to play basketball for years, just to prove to my pox that I could play. And let's just be real. the their. And, their, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, th. th. th. th. thus, thus, thus, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, the, the, the, the the th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. the. the. tha. th, both of my cousins played down the street and they were all world. So I you know, I wanted to play. But eventually I learned that I was very, very good to speech.
Starting point is 00:09:12 Because that's the, I won a state title and speech and that's what made me quit playing basketball. I was like this, this, this, at least I'm winning in this shit. Like I can't make the team, but I still to this day, I love poop just about more than anything else. J.G. Did you ever play the roundball sport from the honorable Dr. Naismith Smith? I kept book for our high school team for a season. You was the manager? Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Have you not realized that tell me and what to do all the time? I never, I played at the YMCA and then I played at the boys club like fourth and fifth grade. And then middle school, I think I tried out and didn't make the team. And then after I was like, yeah, I'm done. When I moved to LA, there was a pickup game amongst comedians. And this just confirmed my feelings about basketball. Like, is it like, the different personalities on the court, which is why I understand Ralph's buy-in game. I will pay money to play this game with the same other nine motherfuckers.
Starting point is 00:10:31 I will pay money because they know me, we know each other and we will all behave. When you are playing pick up with strangers and it's comedians, there's a level of ego. But the game, they used to have a flag football game too. But it was, oh, this is a way for the black comedy comedy comedy comedy comedy comedy comedy comedy comedy comedy comedy comedy comedy comedy comedy comedy comedy comedy, the black, the black, the black, for the black, for the, for the, for the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, their, their, their, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, of ego but the game they used have a flag football game too but it was oh this is a way for the black comedy community to mingle and chill on a Sunday and talk the business but the competitiveness by the second quarter niggas is ready to fight your jokes ain't funny that's why you don't sell no tickets bitch that's why you don't get booked you can't get booked, nigged. That's why you don't get booked, niggled.
Starting point is 00:11:06 Yes. Yes. To me, honestly, pick up basketball ain't shit but athletic karaoke. You got. It's somebody who's doing it for fun. And then there's somebody who think they're going to get a whole last 10-day contract like the mornets is just at this this this this this this to get a whole last 10-day contract like the mothucker from the Hornets is just at this gym today. I move out to LA and I learned very quickly about Los Angeles being a place where
Starting point is 00:11:34 just ballers are at and I used to, like I said, I got a lot of friends I went to Duke. So I used to wear a little Duke shooting shirt that one of my friends had given me, you know, it was my little luck thing when I went to the court. Mind you, I've never played varsity ball. This is important to say, like, I play a lot of basketball, but I had never got the big letter, I always got the little letter, because I did speech. But the point is it is.
Starting point is 00:11:55 This one night, I'm out in LA, we were playing a pickup ball. pick up ball at this gym and I had on my little shooting shirt and I would take off my shirt and I had maybe three or four of the worst games I have ever played in my entire damn life and and didn't know that at the same time in the gym there was a guy former Duke player by the name of Corey McGetty who was in the gym. Oh Clippers fame. Yes sir. So I'm sitting down. I'm already mad at myself. I'm sweating. the shirt. tree. the t. t. tta tta t. tta. tta. tta. tta. tta. tta. tta. tta. tta. tta. tta. ttau. I was ttau. ttau. I'm ttau. ttau-I ttau. I'm the tha tha tha the the the same thoo. I the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same. I'm the same. I'm the same. I'm the same. I'm the same. I'm the same. I'm the same. I'm the same. I'm the same. I'm the same. I's the same. I's the same. I's tta. I'm tta. I'm ttau. I'm ttau. I'm toy. I'm toy. I'm toy. I'm toy. I'm toy. I'm toy. I'm toy. I'm today today today toye. I'm toy. I'm t at myself. I'm sweating, drenched in the sweat, got my little shirt in my hand, about to put on my clothes and go home. Corey walked up to me, say, hey man, did you go to Duke? I was like, well, no, man, he grabbed my shirt. He said, never ever wear this again. And it dropped it at my feet and walk out. Wow. Strait shit on you and hey, hey, man. Yeah, I'm going to do.. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. th. to, th. to, th. th. the they. the they. the the they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, well, well, they, they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, today, I'm, today, today, to. to. th. th. th. th. the th. I'm going to do radio for the rest of my life is how I felt at that point. And the last piece, and I shut up, I, I messed around in LA and ended up playing in the Drulie.
Starting point is 00:12:52 But I don't want to make it sound like I was playing because I was not playing. The Drew League, Jacqueline is where pro and semi-pro players who play international basketball all over the world? You know I've dated basketball players. Oh shit, you buried the lead. Oh, we'll get to that. Screw my, yeah, we gotta, yeah, all right, so my story is simple. I play in the Drew, explain to the Drew for the people who don't know. So the Drew league,
Starting point is 00:13:17 good lord. Jacklin just put me down. The Drew league is a semi pro basketball basketball basketball basketball basketball basketball basketball basketball basketball basketball league, play in the Drew. The West Coast equivalent to like a streetball league, like a Rucker and stuff like that. I happened to have a dude that I was playing pick up with was very good and he invited me to come play on this team. I didn't know that this team was the F and Drew. And so the first practice, these dudes is going is going is going is going is going is going, thian, thian, thian, th yeah, well, I played at this Big Ten school and now I play in Argentina. I played in the Pac-Ten, now I'm playing to Japan. And they came into me and they're like you. And I was like, yeah, I never played varsity basketball.
Starting point is 00:13:52 And I'm a radio producer in a studio. And there's in and shit. Yeah, I mean basketball, pick up basketball is hood golf. Oh, yes. You can make connections. Yes. People and make deals. It's just not as conversational because it's more aerobic than golf. I like the side lines and watching who's dating like a Dale and Rich Paul. I just think that's so sweet. Neither one of them play basketball. I the the the the the the basketball. the basketball. the basketball. the the basketball. the the to the basketball. the to the basketball. to the to the basketball. their th. their their to their their to to to to their to to to to their basketball. to their basketball. Pick their their basketball. Pick their basketball. Pick their basketball. Pick their basketball. Pick their basketball. Pick their basketball. Pick their basketball. their basketball. their basketball. their their their basketball. their their their their their. their their. their. their their. their their their their their their their their th. th. their th. th. th. their thi their thi their th. th. their th. their their thi their their their thi. their their their their I just think that's so sweet. And he's one of them play basketball, Jacqueline. I don't care about that. Let's move on now to Cody's most outstanding employee of the week.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Shawnee O'Neill. That should kill O'Neill's ex-wife, isn't that right? They got married in 2002. I think Shaq had just come to LA on the $100 million deal, or the 200 mil deal, got divorced in 2009. Was there a pre-nep? There was absolutely no pre-up. No pre-up on that first marriage. Nope. But he was paying her alimony.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Part of the terms of this alimony was for 10 years. The day you get married again, you don't get no more my mother fucking money mother fucker. You only get the child support bread. Well third, I'm happy to announce that exactly 10 years after the agreement was fine. Shawnee O'Neill is engaged to be married. Of course she is. Of course she is. Yes. Of course she is.
Starting point is 00:15:33 The fact that she waited and waited and waited and dated and dated and produced shows and built her own nest egg. And then, she didn't even need the money. Third, the basketball wives, spinoffs and all of that shit, you know, many different ways she's getting paid. Paid, getting paid. Where are you going? Because they say being a wife is a job, right? Okay, so then alimony ain't shit but severance.
Starting point is 00:16:03 It is a job. It is definitely a job. For so it's being a husband. Making sure that your employer gave you, well I probably shouldn't say that because black women and you don't work for the black man. I contribute I help build a time for making sure that your co-founder of your family. Fifth. I'm fifth off the grip. Hold up before you finish announcing this, because my wife and my mother, and my mother-in-law are listening, I need y'all to make sure I said fifth, fifth,
Starting point is 00:16:30 goddamnit, fifth, one, two, three, four, five. For making sure that your family's co-founder, fifth. Properly gave you every single penny that was due to you before finding another new co-founder for that Shawnee O'Neill. You are Cody's most outstanding employee of the week. Fifth. I will tell you that whoever she's marrying will not be a co-founder because she has learned a valuable lesson the hard way, proper pre-nub. Well, you know, this is easy to kind of talk about from the perspective that we're looking at.
Starting point is 00:17:13 Does the same thing happen when the perspective flips? Oh, absolutely. Like what happens when she makes tons of money and then he does not make a lot of money and they get a divorce? Do we feel as remorseful for the guy in that situation as we do for the woman in the exact same situation? No, I support rich women paying broke man out of money. I love it. Just so weekend for the record. I'm not signing anything. Let's just go ahead and get that clear. I'm glad I'm not proposing to Jacklin. So many rules with Jacqueline.
Starting point is 00:17:46 We don't have time. I feel like she got a pre-contract, bro. She got a whole pre-contract that she got laid out before you date her. We're not talking about marrying her. If we're going to be in love, we're going to be in love and that's what's going to happen and I've been engaged 4.5 times so I'm not signing no. You've been engaged. There's so many layers to you every week. I'm a whole onion just open. We don't have time. It's too late. We're out of time. What is 4.5 time? We're out of time. What is 4.5? That's like what somebody say I got two and a half children. What the hell is that? Like you just got a half disembodled body just
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Starting point is 00:19:00 Talk about it. Is joining us for worst and first First. We're talking basketball this entire episode, the ends and outs of that career. And if it's anyone who knows this world, it is our next guest, J.G. Who do we have on the line? We have the amazing Candace Nicole Parker, lovely smile, legend in her own right. There are so many things I could say but let's not waste time and get right to her. World champion. Say it again sir. Say it again sir. World champion WBA champion of the world. And host of the moment's podcast well, which is a very, very wonderfully grounded conversational
Starting point is 00:19:50 podcast that peels back the layers of humanity and people. Candace Parker. I didn't know J.G. was going to drop your middle name on us. I'll be close. Thank you for having me. You can't leave out the fact that she was also balling in Chicago, homie. Like, you know what I'm saying? She was dunking on cats in high school. Yes.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Yeah, I'm saying? Like, it's one thing for Astrogy to J-U up. But it's a whole other thing, her to come and pipe one on you and to just look at you you know, you know what I'm saying? I'm sorry, I'm a ball player, brother, just, ah, so watch her pump people, you know, just, ah, so before, yeah, before, before Ralph has a seizure, like, please. When you're an athlete of your talent, you really can't,
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Starting point is 00:22:03 that was probably the worst. That was where I was like, I really want to work really hard so that I don't have to clean the beach bathroom. As parents of talented athletes, which my mama didn't have that issue because, you know, I just baseball and me, basketball and me didn't, You know the problem with me in basketball third? Is that when we moved to Birmingham, I was in the third grade and my mom got me a basketball goal so I wouldn't go to Powderly Park and play where they always got to shoot. But then all the OGs will come to our house to play. I'm in the third grade. It's 10th grade gang. May as well be grown men. He's a tenth
Starting point is 00:22:47 grade gangbangers overhitter the hoop. So I was so intimidated about a sport that they drove me to soccer and baseball and these more individual where ain't got to be no mothucker around me. As I tell folks all the time man, like I t it out for basketball three years in a row in high school. You know what I learned, brie. I'm very good at speech. I'm excellent in speech. That's what I am very good at. I'm good at speech. If it ain't there by about the seventh grade, it's time to go. I would say, super, nine.
Starting point is 00:23:17 For sure, nine. For sure, nineth grade. seventh grade, some kids will surprise you, you hit a growth spurt or something like that. But like for sure in ninth grade, I mean obviously there are exceptions to every rule. But yeah, ninth grade, I stayed away from basketball. I didn't really start playing serious basketball until probably eighth grade, I would say. Like seventh grade is when I started like seriously playing, I played soccer and I played volleyball. And my first scholarship offered to Tennessee was for volleyball. It wasn't even basketball. What are some of the sacrifices that you believe your parents made in the early days to ensure that you stayed on that straight and narrow path because athletics requires a level of commitment that a lot of teenagers aren't always invested
Starting point is 00:24:12 in and it takes a little bit of a push from some mentor figure. Well first, it's got to be in the kid. Like you can't bring something out of a kid that isn't in them. And you know, that's similar trajectory. Like me and my oldest brother, we love basketball. So my dad coached us. My middle brother was like, I'm gonna do basketball for fun. I would say my advice is like first, figure out if the kid wants it.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Like if the kid wants it as much as they say, because you can't want it more than your kid. I can't be pulling Layla up out of bed to go to tournaments and she's she doesn't want to. Now you can have bad days, but I can't want this more than you. Say that shit again. Say it again. Say it again. Say it again. I'm going to play this more than their kids and it just that. I can't want this more than you. Like it just thi. It just that can't just can't that can't that can't that can't that can't that can't that can't that can't that can't that can't that can't that can't that can't that can't that can't that can't be that can't be that can't be that can't be that can't be that can't be that can't be the that can't be that can't be that can't be that can't be that can't be that can't be that can't be that can't be that can't be that can't be the case. the case. the case. the case. the case. th. th. th. that can't be th. that can't be that can't be that can't be that can't be that can't be that can't be that can't be that can't be that can't be that can't be that can't be that can't be that can't be that can't be th. th. that can't be that that that that that that can't be that that can't be that can't be that can't be that can't be th. th. they want something more than their kids and it just doesn't work out. But also, it is important to challenge them. I was challenged constantly. We, you know, you can't expect excellence in this one area of life
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Starting point is 00:25:47 and make sure that your kid is still being a kid. Yeah, because you couldn't get that back. You couldn't ever get that prom back. So excellent move for your mom. And I'm curious, outside of basketball, outside of the podcast. What else is driving you? I always believe in being versatile. Like that is my number one piece of advice. I don't want to put all my eggs into one basket.
Starting point is 00:26:14 And I think for a very long time, it was just basketball. And then I had my daughter, and I saw this whole new purpose. Like, it sucks to lose still. And I hate it, but I come out of it more because of her. And so for me, what keeps me up at night is I want to continue that. I want to be versatile within business. I want to be versatile within television. And you know,
Starting point is 00:26:37 obviously, I mean, gender equality and racial, I mean, all of that drives me. And I think it just, like my daughter looking at me some, I mean, we have the same same, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, I thi, I thi, thi, thi, I thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I thi, I th, I thi, I th, I th, I th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to to the, the, the, the, thi, thi, thi, to thi, to to to to to to to to thi, to thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, the, that drives me. And I think it just, like my daughter looking at me some days, I mean, we have the same, like sometimes she doesn't want to do her homework. She like, mom, I did my homework for you today. Because I tell her all the time, like, I get up to go to work, sometimes I'm like, I don't feel like it, but I did it for you to, like, I did it, the, th.. and hustling, not when I have to get on a cardio machine or when I'm sweating, but like to hustle in business, like to hustle and grind and sometimes do the things you don't want to do. And so I think that's what keeps me up at night is my being a great example of that to her. I felt this year that the ladies kind of the way, in a lot of that the, you know, whether it was getting more than I collected or just standing up to a lot of bullshit. Can you talk about what that part of the season was like? What is it about the WNBA community? It seems more together than the men when it comes to social justice if we just being 100 and like.
Starting point is 00:27:40 Well, first, um, our league is the majority of the minority in this country. And, you know, I say that in, and we, and we, and we, and we, and we, and we, and we, and we that in, and we that in, and we are, and we are, we are, that in, that in, that in, that in, that in, that in, that in, that in, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that part that, that part that, that part that, that, that, that, that part that, that that, that that, that that that that that that that that that, that that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that that, that that, that, that, that that, that majority of the minority in this country. And, you know, I say that we are 80% African American women, so we are a league all of women, everybody's a woman in our lead. 80% black, LGBTQ, social economic background, religions. I mean, we are literally the majority of our league is the minority in this country. So I feel like we had that purpose, and I think any time you have purpose behind anything, it's like driven. And I think we have cohesiveness. There's only 12 teams. During the bubble, it was literally like, we were all in the bubble. We have shit else to do.
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Starting point is 00:28:52 be honest with you, honestly, whether it was accepted or not, whether people, you know, whether the WBA in the front office were okay with it or not, you know, we got fine. There were, there were black turned out shirts and we tried to find them them them them them them them, them, them, the, the, the, the, to find the, the, the, to find, the, the, to find, the, the, the, the, the w. We, the w. We, th. We, th. th. that, that, that, the W. the W. the W. We, the W. We, the W. We, the W. We, the W. We, the W. We, the W. We, the W. We, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, we were, was, we were, we were, we were, we were, we were, we were, we were, we're, we're not, we're not, we're not, we're not, we're not, we're not, we're not, we're not, we're not, we're not, we're not, we're not, we're not, we're not, we're not, we're not, we're, we're not, we got fine. There were, there were, there were, they were, black turned out shirts and we tried to find him and Carmello stepped in and was like, no, we're not, you're not about to do this. Then it was like, oh, the fines are rescinded and like, all stuff. So we're forgetting like, that was a couple years ago. Well, the podcast is called moments where you talk about parenting. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. We thi. We the, the, them, them, them, them, thi. We thi. We thi. We thi. We thi. We thi. We thi. We th. We th. We th. We th. We th. We th. We th. We th. We th. We th. We th. We th. We th. We th. We th. We th. We're th. We're th. We're th. We're the. We're the. We're the. We're like, the. We're like, theeean. I theeee. I theeee. I the. I the. We're like, th that means and you explore that. You explore parenting, I would say as beautifully and as eloquently as we try to explore employment. She is a WNBA champion. She is a black women's.
Starting point is 00:29:38 And we will support the Chicago Sky to know. Yes. Appreciate you. She is. Chicago Sky to Know Ian. Yes. Appreciate you. She is. Candace Parket. Thank you so so much for sharing a little bit of time with us. We will leave you to your ferocious dog.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Oh my God. Listen. Hey, listen, if anybody ever calls, like says, you know, Candice don't believe in diversity, you look at my dog. I got a rot, I got a caba poot, and I got a weaner dog. So, we'll even a variety of diversity at this house. I'm just telling you. That's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:30:14 Well, thank you so much for coming on. We'll leave you back to the break, we will be joined by the wonderful, wonderful, another black women's. No. Back to back, black women's. We're talking basketball on the job fair. She is raising a child prodigy that has decided to not go the college route while still in high school. How good you got to be the
Starting point is 00:30:46 GoPro in high school and convince a black mama? That's my first question to her. How did you as a black mama let this boy tell you, yeah, high school ain't finish it for you though? Right, I'm gonna get this degree for you. I ain't promising you the next, that's all I'm saying. I think he's guaranteed that she ain't getting me one. Yeah, pretty much. You better go frame that middle school shit if you want to tour in the wall.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Look, he might take it, he might take an associate's degree program in the off season Job Fair, we'll be right back. J. Job Fair, we'll be right back. Job Fair. We're back in here. Basketball is my favorite sport. I love the way they dribbled up and down the court. And that's all of the song that I can sing for free without being fine by the music industry. Ha ha ha ha.
Starting point is 00:31:47 J. G. Just real quick, who do we have on the line? Let's just start there because I want to start chipping away at this. We have Kimberly Cummings and she is an assistant principal, but she's also the mother of a prodigy. So, Madam Kimberly, first and foremost, welcome to the job fair. Thank you for coming to board. Thank you for having me. You have a son, and you correct me if I'm wrong. Your son was originally playing high school amateur sports. He is really good.
Starting point is 00:32:23 So rather than continue playing high school amateur sports, he now plays for the overtime elite league, which pays their athletes. And your son is doing that as he prepares for an eventual journey into the NBA. Did I get that right? You got it correct. When did, when did Jaylan's gift start forcing you as a parent to go, okay, what is my schedule today as it relates to the boys schedule? Because you're not just taking him to the YMCA community rec league for him to dunk on people like Ralph. Respect for Ralph. No problem. I totally take that. When a child is playing competitively, there are more leagues, the games are further away
Starting point is 00:33:09 because that's where all the competition lies, further and further away from the house. So if you could just talk to us a little bit about your sacrifices as a family. Well, Jaylain started playing travel ball in the fourth grade. The sacrifices were giving up by weekends. As he got older, he started playing with more competitive teams. As you stated, we had to travel further and further away from home. As many weekends, pretty much every weekend that he played. I was there, my mother was there, we sacrificed and we went to his games.
Starting point is 00:33:51 You have to consider the travel, the hotel costs and being a single mom, it was costly, but he has always aspired to become an NBA player. For me, though, in order for him to do that, he had to keep his academics up because I'm academics first. And he has been a straight-A student since he's been in high school. I think leagues like this where a young man can play and actually earn some some money. That's got gotta be a help. How does that all factor into the league so to speak? Like how does how does that work if you can't, have you seen it work?
Starting point is 00:34:36 I know that he has a contract with everything that they've said that they were going to do for him. They've done. Many people were concerned that he would only get a GED, which is false.. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th, that that that that that that that that that that that that th. the, that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's toe. the. the. they were going to do for him. They've done. Many people were concerned that he would only get a GED, which is false. Jailin and his senior year, he's 17. He only needed one credit to graduate from high school. They are ordering that he has taken high school courses to complete his high school, as he would in regular high school. He just has the opportunity to be trained by some awesome people to get him ready for
Starting point is 00:35:10 the next level and that's going into the G-League or going and going to Europe and play overseas. So it is he loses some things, you know, the college experience and all, but he can still get, he is going to get his degree. He just won't be able to. He just to be able to. He. He, to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be train. train, train, train, train train train train train train train train train train train train train train train train train train train train train train train train to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be train the train the trained the the the training the training to the trained trained to trained trained trained trained train train train ts, you know, the college experience and all, but he can still get, he is going to get his degree. He just won't be able to play on the college level. But going to the games thus far at OTE, it is an awesome experience for these young men. So, it's very rewarding and as you stated, they are getting paid for it. In the meanwhile, they're paying against other young men who are not getting paid and they're doing the same thing. Now, how did the high school coach take it? Talk to me a little bit about the naysayers or I don't want to say daysayers,
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Starting point is 00:36:29 and he had a couple of dollars in his pocket on that college campus? I want to know, what was that like, what was that like when he's like, he's in OTE, but now, he still get the credits with tutors and everything? No, they are in school. There's tutors only if they need them. They are being taught by teachers and they are still earning their credits. They accepted all of his credits from high school. So he still only has that one credit. Now the question you asked about his high school coach, his high school coach was is the legendary or was Charlie Ward.
Starting point is 00:37:12 And he hated to see him leave, but his words were they didn't have that opportunity. they didn't have that opportunity. So it was a great opportunity for jail and of course there were naysayers just like you said and that's because they did not know all the ends and outs of what is being provided by this organization. If he does not make it into the G-League or decide not to go overseas, he is going to be provided up to $100,000 to attend college and pursue his degree as he would have if he was playing in college. That is amazingly though. That's just an advanced scholarship. They just fronted you a scholarship. Now you can go ever
Starting point is 00:37:59 to hell you want to go. It's like taking a gap here. Yes, Jaylan already has college credits. Because he was dual-enrolled. They're going to to to to to to to to to continue to continue to continue to continue to continue that. T to continue that as to continue that as to continue that as to continue that as to continue to continue that as to continue that as to continue to continue to continue that. And to continue to continue to continue that as a to continue to continue to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their. And their. And their. And their. And their. And their. And their. And their. And their. And their. And to pursue. And to see. And to see. And their their their their their their their their their their their the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. $ $100. $100.00.00. to. And to. And to. And their to see. And to go. It's like taking a gap here. Yes, Jaylan already has college credits because he was dual enrode. They're going to continue that as soon as he finishes with this last credit that he needs. He'll start back in college again and he will have possibly close to his AA degree once he finishes. Okay, what's the age limit on enrolling and overtime elite? Let me Google real quick and see if they take a- I tell my son and he starts his league real soon. Yo, son, I'm talking about myself, but you do. Oh my goodness. Through this process so far, is there anything that you would enhance?
Starting point is 00:38:39 Because there are other people looking to you, whether you know it or not, to see how this all plays out. They they honor their word, they've honored their word because this is my 17-year-old son who has left home, everything that they said, they are a family. They're an organization, but they are a family and they actually take care of our kids. Every need of doctor's appointments, dental appointments, everything and they treat of our kids. Every need, our doctor's appointments, dental appointments, everything, and they treat them professionally. But they take care of them as well.
Starting point is 00:39:12 If he's going pro, that means that, for like a better word, the grooming, that sometimes cats might get in college to avoid agents and all that kind of stuff, they can come right at them. And I would figure as a parent that would be a little bit scary just to see. So do they give you advice on how to deal with that? They have investments in all and they have financial advisors. A portion of their money is put away in an account that they cannot touch because of their age.
Starting point is 00:39:42 So they give them, they're teaching them how to be men. They're not just playing basketball. In European soccer, it's quite common for kids to go pro at around 14 or 17 years old. They'll pull them out of high school, but they put them in tutoring, tutoring academies that are normally based in the practice wings of the different teams. But they also do the th th th th th thi thi thi th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi they they they thi they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're not they're they're not they're not they're they're they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're not. they're not. they're not. they're not. ti. ti. tou-c-a. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. they're not they're not they're not they're not. they're not. they're not. tutoring academies that are normally based in the practice wings of the of the different teams, but they also do the things that for the first time I've ever heard anybody in America doing is in the case of the OTA here, they give them financial planning, they give them social media training, they teach them how to deal with things as a professional, which you know there's litmus tons of stories in American basketball where I wish some of these guys would have had some courses or something along the way to help guide them.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Because being a professional basketball player is still a job. And a lot of times, you know, people get caught up in the highlights and they miss it. It's still a job. I actually tried to back out of the contract once I signed it. Because I was listening to outside influences who didn't understand what was going on. And my son said to me, he said, Mom, I'm 17. This is what I've loved doing, and this is what I've always loved doing. This is what I aspire to do. He said, once I get finished with this program, I would have made X amount of dollars. He said, if I do not make it into the NBA or decide not to go overseas, he said I can take the money that they offered for me to go to college. When I graduate from college, I'll be 23 years old. I'll still be young and I could pursue the career for the major that I decided to make. And that was the thing that said, okay, go for it.
Starting point is 00:41:27 Thank you down south George Girl. Every OTE player will earn a six figure salary with a guaranteed minimum salary of at least a hundred thousand per year plus bonuses and shares of equity in overtime. In addition, players will participate in revenue from use of their name, image and likeness through sales of custom jerseys, trading cards, video games, and NFTs. It is all very exciting. It seems surreal. That's awesome. No further questions. This is from what it seems to be one of the safest and easiest dice roles on setting, using your gifts to set a future for yourself as quickly as possible as the great
Starting point is 00:42:14 Omar Little said in the wire, even if I miss I can't miss. Right. You know, it seems like he's got a good village around him. Keep them skisers away from him, and check his DMs from time to time, mama. Make sure that boy got, make sure he got a box of car, a whole thing of condos. Right. Two suitcases full. Respectful. Hey, Kimberly.
Starting point is 00:42:35 One more question on your way on your way out of the door here, I got one question. We talk about the sacrifice that parents. Tell us real quick, whole interview, where have you been? Where are you at right now? Oh, I'm driving to Atlanta to see him play this weekend. That's what I'm talking about. That's that sacrifice. You heard, that's sacrifice right there. I'll be a parent like Kimball. That's it.
Starting point is 00:42:59 I hope that you're able, as he gets older and gets out of your hair a little more, I hope that you're able to use that time to pursue all of the things that you set to the side to make sure that his career was straight. God bless you. Thank you. And I mean that. Thank you and thank you all for having me. Bye.
Starting point is 00:43:19 A hundred thousand, and you get a piece of your likeness and you know they're going to throw them in a video game sooner or later. This is the future. Well, the fact that they get the money so that if they don't go to the league or something where it happened to them or whatever, the fact that they get that hundred grand to at least go to school if something doesn't to work out, that is th, them... thus thus thus that's that's thus. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. That's thi. thi. I I's thi. I's thi. I's thi. I's that's that's that, that's they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they. I I I I I I I they's they. I I they's they. I they's they's they're they're they're they're their. I's their. I's their their their their the. I'll not not. I'll not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not's a nice deal. I was just going to say she's an assistant principal. So this wasn't something that she didn't completely think through. That educational aspect was a baseline for her. We were talking a little bit before we all joined each other, but that is a baseline for her. It's extremely important for her and for him. So this wasn't just some willy-nilly decision. It's the best way I can put it.
Starting point is 00:44:09 After the break, we'll wrap up this basketball episode with an esteemed, wonderful, wonderful ESPN journalists and writer. Scoop Jackson. Jackson. And of course the Humminorado, aka Jackson, not Jackson, Jackson, Jackson, you know how them pastors with the juicy amount? Jackson. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:30 It's a job fair. We'll be right back. Basketball week. We're exploring the world of different ways you can make a little money in basketball and shit like that. You know, I would have played, but I was run off the court by older gang members who had scores to settle. So the aggressiveness of the sport turning me off. We turn our attentions now. It's part of the program where we bring our black people, white people, oligist, on to help you all be able to break the ice with co-workers of a different race by presenting stories and topics and little things you can chit chat about.
Starting point is 00:45:25 He comes to us from parts unknown in Middle Tennessee, but if you ever want to see him in 3D, just swing by the bold hotel, and he will appear. His mama named him Narado, we call him Rod for short ride. Well, we fucking hoops, I want to say that. Earlier you said that you were run off the basketball court by gang members with a score to settle and you know, that happens, you know. Gangs of Disciples. Shout out to I.G.D.
Starting point is 00:45:57 Yeah, you from the West Side. So yeah, it happens. I myself had to do the same thing in college. Went four four brothers and interrupted the basketball, gave me the gym, because the niggins out there who owed me money and I hadn't had time to wait. He'd been giving me to run around for about three weeks. Walked into the jail with a black mile in my mouth, right on to the court, grabbed the ball. It was like, hey, I need to talk to this, because somebody better call it time out. It happens. I believe every minute of this.
Starting point is 00:46:31 Every minute of this, I believe it. I totally believe me. Yeah, it happened, man. How much money, Rod. It was $20. It was $20. It was the principal. It was the principal. It was the principal. It was the principal. It was the principal. It was the $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $. It was the the the the the the money. It was the principal. It was the principal. It was the principal. It was the principal. It was the money. It was the principal.
Starting point is 00:46:53 You were wearing basketball shoes. You had on lugs growing up on the court with the black and buy. See, that's why I don't like pickup games. It's too much testosterone. It's too many men trying to prove they men to people that don't matter. I ain't got time for this shit. I'm going to the backgambates. That's why I love baseball. Let's kick it off, Ron. Which way you want to start with white people. White people. We're going to start with white people, what you want to be talking about in basketball news right now to your black people is a former NBA superstar at Grifter, Darren Williams, will be making his professional boxing debut by fighting on the undercard of the Jake Paul versus Tommy Fury fight
Starting point is 00:47:42 against former NFL star. What is happening? Frank Gore Cedar. It's a very weird as story. Running back, wait a runnaback, from the U, Frank Gore. From the you, Frank Gore is going to. A running back, a running back versus a point guard.
Starting point is 00:47:56 A point guard, that's right, Darren Williams. Frank Gore is gonna beat the dog. Now here's the thing, it may sound like Frank Gore is going to beat the shit out of Darren Williams, but apparently, Darren Williams has spent the last 10 years training in MMA and as part owner of the MM, a very popular MMA gym in Dallas, Texas. And apparently he was also training for his MMA debut before the pandemic here. So he might have a motherfucking chance. But Frank Gore, we all know Frank Gore is an old school gangster and he's been boxing since
Starting point is 00:48:37 2005 apparently this part of his training. It's a weird sounding story. It might be a good damn fine. Boxing is a tough one for me to watch, because you know if they do it well enough, long enough, the inevitability, it's not. There ain't a lot of sexy retired boxes. You get what, Sugar Ray Leonard and George Foreman? Yeah, that's.
Starting point is 00:49:00 Tyson, I guess, but Tyson, last I checked a couple weeks ago, he was talking about smoking toad poison and going to the moon on the Iowasca. Well, I mean, that ain't no crazy than how he was in 1980. I mean, you're gonna say, you need Tyson a little. If Tyson wanna, Tyson, tiso wants to smoke some toad poison. I promise you it is the most organic, sustainable told poison available. All right, I know we got Scoop Jackson waiting, so let's go in and flip it up real quick ride. What can our black people bring up to their white friends about basketball?
Starting point is 00:49:31 Like people, the biggest news in white basketball right now is Coach Kaea is retiring at the end of this season. Dukes famous Mike Shishkowski and he has a grandson on the team who apparently doesn't want to make it any easier for grandpops to walk away from the game. Mike Savarino, grandson of Coach Kay, 20 years old, was just recently arrested for the DWI with Duke's star freshman, Paolo Banchero. And apparently, Coach Kay's grandson was the one driving, and he's only 20 years old. And the kicker is that they arrested Paolo also for aiding and abetting DWI,
Starting point is 00:50:22 which is something I've never heard of, but apparently if you can, they say that if you knowingly give your keys to somebody you know is under the influence that you're aiding and abetting a DWI, so I guess they're going to have to prove that to keep him in trouble. But right now, the big focus is of Coach Y's grandson. Yeah, he's also owned a tee. Oh yeah, no, he's he's he's on he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's on he's on he's on they're th. He's on th. He's on th. He's thin. He's thin. He's on thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' th. They're th. They're th. They're th. They're thin' thin' they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're th. They's th. They's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin. He's thin. He's thin. He's thin. He's thin. He's thin. They say thin. They say thin. They say thin. They say thin. They say they're they play too? Yeah, he's also on the team. Oh yeah, no, he's on the squad. He's on the squad. Okay. So you got two young freshmen.
Starting point is 00:50:50 Yeah, and the kid that they, uh, the other kid is a beast. He's a superstar. Yeah, he's a beast. The podcast is Uncle Rod. corner. You can get it wherever you get podcast. Right. We wish you a happy December Christmas. Oh let me tell you some shit real quick by J.G. She loved. Oh, whoa. Let me tell you what she said. Mmm.
Starting point is 00:51:15 Mm. What? What? What? Jacqueline said she loves the spirit of the season. She loves the food, the smell, the pine needles, The Christmas tree. She loves bacon. But she doesn't she th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, let, th, let, let th, let th, let th, let th, let th, let th, oh, oh, oh, oh, let th, oh, let th, let me th me, oh, let me th me the, let me, oh, oh, oh, let me the the the, let me the, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, th me me me me me me me me me. Oh, th me the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tha, the food, the smell, the pine needles, the Christmas tree, she loves bacon, but she doesn't buy gifts. Oh yeah. She doesn't even buy them. I'm not making them. I'm not making them.
Starting point is 00:51:33 Yeah, she's very selfish. But she loves, but she loves receiving them though, don't she? I'm not going to turn them down. I love love th. I love th. I love th. I love th. I love th. I love th. I love th. I love th. I love th. I love th. I love. I love. I love. I love. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that that, th. th. th. th. th. that, but she th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. But, but she, but she, but she, but she, but she, but she. But, but she. But, but th. But, but th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that's my daughter. I accept them. I love it. Not even surprised. Rod, as always, thank you so much for coming on the program. We appreciate you, man.
Starting point is 00:51:56 We'll talk next to you. Yeah, bless up. Yes, sir. Bye. Scamme at a weektime. JG, who is on the line? We currently have Robert Scoop Jackson, and he holds the position the position the position the position the position the position the position the position the position the position G. who is on the line? We currently have Robert Scoop Jackson and he holds the position as senior features writer and executive producer for ESP and features unit and sports center and is a contributor to many of their television
Starting point is 00:52:18 programs, radio shows, digital platforms, including the undefeated, also magazines and films. And it's important to note he spent 12 years as a national columnist for ESPN.com. He also holds position as the teeth, content, and copyright. Chief. Wait a minute, right? Tell it all though. There's one more thing. One more thing you're missing. Hold on. Hold on, hold on, Roy. You know there's one more thing you missed. I let Scoop do it.
Starting point is 00:52:47 Watch this. H. You. What you say, Scoop. Tell him. Tell him, where did you go? Sco, did you know, did you, did, did you, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, there's only one. When you double up on your black HBCUs, you know, you can, which one? Please get rise to both, sir. Please get rise.
Starting point is 00:53:11 I know we got a family duty here too. So you know, we got a respect. So, nope. Got the underground from Xavier University in New Orleans and got the grad piece from Howard University in DC. Yes, sir. They don't get much black. Right, right, right, right. Right. A curiosity, because I don't know. What does scoop stand for? Um, I say it's either ice cream or dog shit, whichever way you want to go.
Starting point is 00:53:37 But, no, in real talk, it was give it to me at birth because I was born literally the day after JFK was assassinated and my uncle, my mother's brother, made a joke to my father who was a newspaper reporter in Chicago at the time. He said, nigger you having a son going school Kennedy getting killed. Wow. So they gave me that name birth certificate in hand at first. So I've been, I've been asking me dog shit my whole life. So. What are some of the pitfalls that young basketball players make at any level, be it a
Starting point is 00:54:20 you or semi pro overseas college, whatever. What are some of the pitfalls that keep them from crossing over into the NBA? Well, the first is not developing a work ethic that it takes to sustain a career inside the NBA. The NBA, like a lot of other professions, is based on like a pyramid where it gets smaller and smaller, the higher you go with the people at top of that, they are literally the best of the best in the world. They have no idea what it is like and what it takes to get to the top of the top. We're living in a generation where we have somewhat stunted young athletes by continually showing them the end results and not showing them the work
Starting point is 00:55:11 that it takes to get there and sustain that. So when they are the, you know, when they're all like a ESPN list of the top 30 high school basketball players. So they are in college and they see their sales like in Yahoo's mock draft and maybe getting in the first round. They think that is automatic and they're good and where their skills are at right now are going to be good enough to get them to the next stage. And they might, but getting to the next stage and staying there are two different things because if you are 17 and 18 years old and you don't have a work ethic that is going to match with these cats in the
Starting point is 00:55:49 NBA doing, it's too late. I've been reading you, following you for a very long time. Were you at XXL or you at SLAM and when you were at a slam, you really had a unique look at the underage basketball market for lack of better word. Like it was one thing to look at the college game. But that high school game when I was coming up we're talking like around 94, that high school game had a lot of money in it. But now, apparently it's not the high school game anymore. It's the eighth grade? Yeah, I mean, but really it has to be because the way it goes right now. Everybody's seeking to find find their to find to find to find the way it goes right now, everybody's seeking to find and get their hands on what's next. And if you got first dibs on what's next,
Starting point is 00:56:29 then you have an advantage over everybody else. All right, who's next for LeBron? And we're not gonna wait for that person to be a sophomore or freshman. We're gonna try to get dads and debs on that cat early. And now you're looking at colleges. So you're looking at it like, look, if we can introduce this kid to our college program, we may be able to grab that kid. And one thing when we're dealing, especially with us,
Starting point is 00:56:54 is black folks. We have a sense of loyalty that most other races the world don't have. We stay true to where we come from more than anybody. And if we don't redeem the sellout, but I don't care where you from, hey man, no, these people had me when nobody else had me. That same thought process attaches itself to what we're talking about right now.
Starting point is 00:57:19 So when you are an eighth grader and the University of Missouri, you know, A starts, whatever, sending you gifts, assistant coach comes there, they show up at your games, whatever they can do inside the NCAA laws to let them know that they got their eye on you. When it comes time for you to choose a school, that loyalty kicks in like, hey, Missouri was here watching me before anybody else was. I'm going, you know, they've been down that that that th with th with th with th with th with th with th with th with th with th you to choose a school, that loyalty kicks in like, hey, Missouri was here watching me before anybody else was. I'm going, you know, they've been down with me since day one before all the y'all knew. They were down with me. And if you can get that foot in to that player, it's all good. So that's the reason that happened. That's deep. That's deep. That's. That's, that is, I get it, but it's fine. Let's let's not just use the sports.
Starting point is 00:58:08 All types of companies and agencies in various professions do the exact same thing. You don't think Hollywood is trying to look to see who's the next young, you know, person who's going to, who's going to run Disney? Disney has a whole network about finding kids under the age of 10 and who's going to be next. You don't think it's Silicon Valley that anyone from Google, you know, whoever, name them, Apple, Microsoft, you don't think they're tapping in the high school kids, you don't think they're tapping in the STEM programs to find who the young brains are. You don't think the Berkeley School of Music in Boston is trying to travel around the country
Starting point is 00:58:49 to find out who that next cellist is, who, you know, who that next reader, a writer of music is? You don't think ad agencies across the world are looking at young talent in some of these high schools that have gifts in writing that can do something. It's happening all over. So let's not just, you know, peg sports as the shady ones that are doing it. It happens all over. Okay, I have two things. One is more streamlined and straight with regards to what you're talking about grooming the
Starting point is 00:59:22 next generation of cello players, the next generation of cello players, the next generation of basketball, football player, athletes, or whatever you excel in, you are a male writer of a certain caliber. Who are you grooming or who are you reading that you're most interested in and seeing them do something great as well? I'm not one of those brothers that functions from a box in situation. I really literally function with an open door policy and half or 30 years. So there's always somebody, some bodies that I have always been there and continue to be there and grooming and mentoring and whatever.
Starting point is 01:00:09 You know, really, I don't sit on anybody's board of directors. I'm not a member of anybody's this, that, any other. I don't, I'm not a member of the NABJ. I don't function like that. I function really every day on the streets. If I see you on the streets, if I see you at your high school, if I see you at the game, I see your the grocery stuff, I see you at the club, see you at the bar, if I see you, it doesn't make a difference. I would actually say, JG, just to kind of back him up real quick, I have the honor of saying that I've knowned to and spoke with.
Starting point is 01:00:47 And he always give me real ass advice when I wanted to do. And I want to those brothers that you could get my phone number out and you don't have to call me ahead of time and say you gave with somebody else. I'm not that dude. I understand how we have as a brother who has, you know, worked consistently and pretty hard to, you know, be in a position that I'm in, and I understand that the same work ethic that we were talking about these players need to have coming in is the same work ethic that I have. And that's the one thing that should not be held back
Starting point is 01:01:30 from anybody of color in this country, especially in this game of media, especially in this game, which is probably, in my mind, still remains the most racist industry we have in this country. And that's including politics and police departments. Two things for me. One, I hate that we didn't have enough time to really get into journalistically a lot of the ends and outs of your journey
Starting point is 01:02:01 through all of these different sports, but take us back to your time. Were you ever a beat writer for any team at any level? I have never had to go through that journey. And that's something that is still problematic for other individuals, especially where I'm at right now at ESPN. My background is so unique to everybody else. A lot of people in the business, but especially at the
Starting point is 01:02:25 place I'm at at ESPN. I'm like that playground legend who was lucky enough to make it to the league. That's really what it boils down to. Ray for Allstreet. Right, right. I'm skipping from my loop. Now, it was a situation I ran into with another legendary writer that happens to be at ESPN. And one time it was during the Bulls, the second three-peat in the press room, and everybody that's there during the finals, they all like leave and they're rushed and they're all in the press room.
Starting point is 01:03:01 Like they're trying to get their stories out. And they had, you know, they're on, their on, their on, their on, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, te.e.e.e.eat, tea, tea.ea.ea.ea.ea.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e. te.e.e. te. trying to get their stories out. And they have, you know, they're on the deadlines, so they're trying to get, making sure their stories match the inches, or they're getting their work out. And you know, their deadlines either one or midnight or whatever. They're all in crunch mode. I'm sitting in of Slam magazine. I deadline, it's a monthly magazine. You know, we come out every six weeks. My deadlines are lacked. And this writer said to me, basically, in kind of a really shady way,
Starting point is 01:03:36 that, man, you know what, that's, you know, you're lucky. And he said it in a way that, you know, I almost don't respect you for standing and not have to do what everybody else is doing and saying that I'm lucky that I'll have to be forced to write the deadlines that they're on. And my response to him was this. I say, you know what, man, you can write a crap story, and that newspaper you write for, nothing's gonna happen. It's gonna be fine. And you could cover up for some bullshit that you wrote today in two days.
Starting point is 01:04:13 You could cover that for the next, you know, you can follow up the next day, whatever, that's fine. I have an entire magazine to hold down. If I fuck up, the entire magazine goes down. That's, that, that, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, and yeah, that's, that's it, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi, thi, thi, thi,. If I fuck up, the entire magazine goes down. That's it. And yeah, I'm my deadlines it every six weeks, but for every 750 words that you're writing four times a week, I'm writing 35 to 4,000 words, four t, because I got four stories in every issue that we do.
Starting point is 01:04:46 So respect my gangster. For 11 years, I worked in slam magazine and basically, it was on me to make sure that magazine function. Same thing with double Xcel. It was on me to make sure these things function. So just because the lane is a little different, don't disrespect it. So I've had to have that fight my entire career fighting up against that. I can tell JG he still want to slap the shit out of whoever. No, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:05:14 No, no, no, no, no. No, no. No, no, no, because he was like, you know what, I never looked at it that way. And it came immediately. He's like, damn, you're right. I never looked at it that way. Damn, that's good. That's love. All right, we'll get you out of here. I'm gonna take time. I'm good.
Starting point is 01:05:33 This whole segment is called Scam of the Week. And I know at some point in your pre-journalist to work, to work, to work, to, to, to, to, the to, the to, the, th, th, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, to, to, to, th, to, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. And, th. And, th. And, tho, tho, tho, thin, that's, that's, that's, that's that's that's they, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's, that's, that you stole or that you was running a hustle. But if you ever seen a hustle ran, we would love for you to share one with us that hopefully the legal statute of limitations has passed on. Please don't confess to anything. No problem. Look, I'm gonna tell you two real quick. The first, both of them came ESP or two. I'll givethem their credit because they, they ain't a game of hustling. So it's all good. They told me one time that they wanted me to do a story on the New York Nets. Because they were doing this issue for ESP in a magazine called,
Starting point is 01:06:21 like the crazy thing, what if the, what, we're doing an issue on the craziest thing in sports that can happen, what if they happen? And they wanted me to do, what if the New Jersey Nets win the championship? I was like, okay, that's fine. I could do that because at the time, I forgot probably 1995, 1996 I think Kenya was also got who wrote on that squad.
Starting point is 01:06:48 Anyway, you have to understand it. It was a reach, but that was the whole concept of the issue is to take extreme things and write a what if about them. Come to find out, there never was an issue based on that. It wasn't a theme issue. They just did a story on the Nets and then ran my piece as a sideball with me saying, I'm thinking the Nets are gonna win the championship. Here's what makes it worse. Wait, he's a right.
Starting point is 01:07:20 He doesn't make it work. This is what Stephen A had his show, quite frankly. Oh, Stephen A was like, what the hell? Oh, no, you gotta come on the show and talk about that. I'm like, wow. And he had me on his show, man. I have never done that much stuttering. I mean, luckily this is pre-social media, so you didn't get saute souffled all over
Starting point is 01:07:47 the internet. Now you talk about, yeah, nah, now you talk about some gangster stuff, like really, that was one. The other one, and I probably go get troubled for this. But when I first came over there, they, the first assignment they gave me was LeBron James. They're like, high school, we need you to go, you know, do a story on LeBron James. He's still high school or he's in Cleveland at this time. And I had a very good relationship with him.
Starting point is 01:08:14 And I had a very good relationship with him. And we were, we were slam magazine and you know he was part of our whole, for his family. We had those issues. And they knew I had a really, really good relationship with him. And they knew I worked on this first Nike campaign. They knew I was in with him, Rich, Randy, Maverick. You know, I was, you know, I was, you know, a ballheaded step. So they had me in the family and ESP and that's the first assignment of the game. Hey, we want you to do a story story story story story story story story story story story story story story story story story story story story story story story story story story story story story story story story story story a story story story story story story story story the story story story story story story story the story the story. the story. to do a the story. to do a to ESPN, that's the first assignment of the game, hey, we want you to do a story on LeBron Jane for the magazine. I'm like, all right, cool. So I get to Cleveland, man, and I roll up with LeBron's, hey, what's going on, fam? You know, I left slam. I'm going to be ESPN. He said, you don't know? No, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:09:05 I don't know. So he tells me the story, he goes down to tell me how, for years, one, they, they had a writer secretly in Cleveland's locker room for an entire year, writing a book about him that he did not know about. Nor did the Cleveland Cavaliers until he got, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, like, like, th, like, like, th was like, thied, thied, thied, like, like, thied, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th said, like, like, they, they, the story, the story, the story, the story, the story, th was, the story, th was, th was, th was, th was, th was, th was, th was, th was, th was, th was like, th was like, th was like, th was like, th was like, th was like, th was like, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, they was like, they'd was like, they'd was like, thinks, thinks, thinks, thinks, thinks, thinks, thinks, thinks did the Cleveland Cavaliers until he got they, they like, why is this dude here every day? And it was all, it was a whole season and he had been there. And he wasn't a beat writer for like the plane dealer or, you know, the. Nah, he was just there and then they finally found out that he was secretly there through ESPN to write a book on him. Once that got discovered and he got tossed,
Starting point is 01:09:48 LeBron stopped doing interviews at ESPN. So ESPN got mad. And apparently, according to him, said something foul about his mother. Oh, no, you can't do that. So, that's when he was like, I'm done, like I'm done, done. I was upset because I'm like, look, and I'm supposed to be working with ESP now. The least you could have done was told me what I was walking into.
Starting point is 01:10:19 It's like, hey, so, he sent you on a situation. When you bring you in, we try to massage this situation, can't decide, they say, they say, they say, they say, they say, they say, they say, they didn't say, they didn't say, they didn't say, they didn't say, they didn't say say say say say say say say say say they didn't say, they didn't say, they didn't say, they didn't say, to say, th say say say say say, to say, to say, to say, to say, when you bring, you in, trying to massage this situation, can you decide? They didn't say anything to me. And had, you know, it had me walking in LeBron, like, I hate to say it, ass out. Uh-huh. And, yeah, and burning a bridge with someone that you had reported it. Because he thinking, you know the beef. And you're coming in here, the the the the the, you, you, you, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th. th. th. thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, you thin, thin', thin'. thin', to to to to to to say, to say, to to to to to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, thin'. thin'. thin'. thin'.. thin'... thin'. thin'. thin'. thin'. thin'. thin'. th. thin, thin, th. th. to th. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thin, thin, thin, thin, trying to be the nigger whisperer, hey man, Masa told me to come check on you and see what's going on. Look, that's the one job you never, you never really see advertised for it,
Starting point is 01:10:50 but that's the realest job in journalism as being a nigger whisper. That's just the realest job out there. They will send you to talk to somebody black. Just because you black. talk a little bit of slang. Like you ain't got to talk a whole lot of slang. You just need to talk enough to confuse your white. And they will send you, I ended up covering the A&1 team because they were too scared to go into Barry 5. So wait a minute, school. What happened? Because I don't know. Nothing happened. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't do it. That was didn't. It was nothing to play out. I'm not doing it. You all should have to do. LeBron's not talking. And y'all should have told me what I was walking into.
Starting point is 01:11:28 And it's really simple. Okay. You know, it's just out of respect. But it wasn't that much because they is a job fair. And there are people that would get something like this. After the second time it happened, and the second time happened after the next thing, I went to the president of the company and told him, I said, look, here's the deal, here's the deal,
Starting point is 01:11:58 I'm never writing for the magazine, period. And once I explained it to her and broke it to it to it to it the to it, Period. And once I explained it to her and broke it down to it, he said, you know what? I get it 100%. Now in my contract with ESPN is I am paid to do a certain amount of feature storage for the magazine. He's like, don't worry about it, wave it, you don't ever have to write for the magazine again. He even admitted that was wrong. Low key what you're talking about is mental health shit because that'll drive you fucking crazy You do three of them bullshit stories and a good news skip We we love what you do. What's your name skip? Whatever anyway, nigger
Starting point is 01:12:32 I want you to write a story About why the Jacksonville Jaguars will win the next eight superbowls don't do that How do people who don't have the depth of resume like you? What can they lean on if the the the the the the the the they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the the to te to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to do people who don't have the depth of resume like you, what can they lean on if they're dealing with that same type of microaggression type nonsense in their job? Build yourself a great foundation of self-worth before you get to the top of the food chain in what you're talking about. It goes down to not necessarily being seasoned but understanding that as a young person always try to function from a position of strength, not fake strength, real strength.
Starting point is 01:13:25 And that strength has to come in your value. And value, not the lies you tell to yourself about what you're going to become, but the values of what you've done, there's always other outlets. But it's on you to have that self-worth. You to build up a value system within yourself so that when it does take a position of going left, that you're not the one whose integrity doesn't walk out the door when they do.
Starting point is 01:13:56 Bars, fucking bar. I mean it was an editor at double XL so it's bar Let's raise the ball for it. One last question you may mention of this and this is me going back. was an editor of double Excel, so it's bar. Let's raise the offer. God damn it. One last question you made mention of this and this is me going backwards, that there's so many kids and students today that they have no work ethic. And I think it aligns with something that Roy also talked about. There's no one there to teach them those things. So any suggestions on where they can go to glean. Glean. I use ESPN as a class example of this and I'll give you a credit for this a little bit but any no seriously any black
Starting point is 01:14:37 individual that you see or any person of color I respect it that you see working at ESPN. Go back and look to see that track record before they got there. Okay. That's it. Yo, you're not gonna see somebody come to ESPN and get to that top of that food chain without years and years and years of work to get there. Right. Oh, I don't have to show them any work at that. You go back and look at Mike Will bar. You. You. You. You. You. You. You, you. You, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, and look, you, and look, and look, you, you, and look, and look, and look, and look, and look, and look, and look, and look, and look, and look, and look, and look, and look, and look, and look, and look, to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see their to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see the their, their, the the their, the the the their their their their, their, their their their, their their their, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their tre, their tre, their th. th. th. th. th. th. to get there. Right. So I don't have to show them any work ethic. You go back and look at Mike Wilbond. You go back and look at Jamel Hill before she left.
Starting point is 01:15:12 You go back and look at Maria Taylor. You go back and look at El Duncan. You go back and look at Mike Wilbond. You go back and look at the line at every person of color there. look at that the background and the background and the background and the background and the background the background the background the background the background the background the background the background the back the back their their their their their their their their their their. their. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th. th. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I th. I th. I. I th. I th. th. the. the. the. thoooooooooooooooooooo. the. to to to to to to to to to to to to of color. There, look at that background before they got to ESPN. And that's your work ethic right there. And it can't be like a fake, like I think, like you have to have something there to let you know that I'm able to do this.
Starting point is 01:15:37 All right, we gotta let you go scoop because this too much church. We already did two church episodes last month. We can't have no more church episodes up in here, man. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you too, Jay, I feel sorry for you putting up with these two, but you know, yo, do whole separate conversation. I could sing you the text message chains. Oh my gosh. You supposed to be delete nos, first of all. Scoop, I kept them. I. I. I them them them them them them them. I. I. I. I. I. I. I the the the the the the the to to have the to have to have the to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have. I. I can't have to have to have. I to have. I can't have. I can't have. I can't have. I can't have. I can't have. I can't have. I can't have. I can't have. I to have. I to have. I to have. I to have. I to have. I. I. I're supposed to be delete notes first of all. Scoop I kept them. All right Linda Tripp I see you Linda Tripp I see you. You're so wrong with that you so wrong. Just Google the name Scoop Jackson and go down a wonderful, wonderful rabbit hole of observations and analysis of the mundane all the way up to the name's group Jackson and go down a wonderful, wonderful rabbit hole of observations
Starting point is 01:16:25 and analysis of the mundane all the way up to the profound. Brother, thank you so much for coming on the job. Thank you all. Thank you all. That's the show, man. We had a good time. We talked basketball, we explored the careers. We did what we came to do.
Starting point is 01:16:39 We don't always get to do that on that that that that that out. Thank you so much to Candace Parker. Thank you so much. To Mama Kimberly and her son Jayland we wish there were nothing to guess. As well as the good people that overtime over time. Yes, yes, big shot out to overtime. Is that a true? I don't know but we might want to look into it. Jacqueline Stockf there. We need to discuss this. We need to discuss this because they about to be on the rise, especially if they're already thinking about selling NFTs. That's a very, very cool to think an operation. Royce Jaffair is a product of I Heart Radio Comedy Comedy Central. Um, there's a strong possibility of my buildings on fire.
Starting point is 01:17:25 So I'm just have to wrap this up. Do you smell smoke? I smell smoke big time. I haven't heard an alarm yet though. All right, well, we're gonna let you go. G. I'm not interested in, um, you're being rescued by the fire department live on this field. Yeah, I can't even get to you. You kind of short. Wait a minute. The fire department? They're tall. Keep home. We're going and call them then. Let me find out Jacqueline will be swiping left and right on the fire department. No, seriously, I do think my building's on fire, so I gotta go. This has been a special preview of Roy's Job Fair.
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