The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Between the Scenes - Guest Edition: Bernie Sanders
Episode Date: April 7, 2019Senator Bernie Sanders joins Trevor to answer questions from the audience about connecting with black voters, finding a balance on immigration and ending predatory lending. Learn more about your ad-c...hoices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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you get your podcast. Let me ask you this. An issue in and around immigration. This is a tough
one because I found that in America people like to make it seem like it's either one or the
other. All the immigrants come in, no borders, or shut it all down, no immigrants in the country.
Clearly you need a little bit of both.
Absolutely.
Right.
There is...
Let me just interrupt you to tell you.
You're talking to the son of an immigrant.
Right.
A man who came to this country from Poland to the age of the immigration. I can imagine, and you have said this on the campaign trail. Here's the thing some economists argue.
They say there has been a correlation
between immigrants coming into America
and the lowering of wages.
Because when people come in and take jobs that are for lower skilled individuals,
inevitably the numbers are going to drop because people can't pay somebody else less to do it. And they've shown now, now that now that now that now that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that their their their their their their their their their their their their their has their has their has their has their has their has their has their has their has has has has has has has has has has has has has has has has has has has has has has has has has has has has has has has has has has has has has has has has has has has has has has has has has has has has has has has has has has has has their their their their their their their their their their their their their the numbers are going to drop because people can't pay somebody else less to do it.
And they've shown now, now that immigration has gone down, wages are starting to go up.
Now you actually, I think it was in 2015 or whatever, you spoke to this in Vermont and you said, yes, we need to look at that that is an issue.
We can't just have people coming in and replacing the jobs.
So where do you stand on this? How do you find where the balance the balance, like the balance, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the balance, the balance, the balance, the balance, the balance, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the jobs. So where do you stand on this and how do you find the balance? I mean that's that is the question. Nobody or at least not many people believe in
open borders. Right. If you simply open the borders you'd have people from
Vietnam and China and Mexico and Latin America coming in. Right. And no one
thinks that that is a plausible approach. On the other hand, you know I think the strength of this nation is in fact the diversity the the the the the the the the the the the the the the theeeeea the thea thea thiiuuasuasuasuasuasuasuasuasuasuasuasuasuasuasuasuasuasuasuasuasuasuasuasuasuasuasu that that that that that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that that's that that that that that that that that that that that that that is that that is that is that is that is that is a that is a that is a that that that that that that that tha that tha tha tha tha thea thousa.a.auauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauaua.a. that's that's that's that's think the strength of this nation is in fact the diversity and the new ideas
that immigrants from all walks of life have given this country.
So you need a rational, non-racist immigration policy which welcomes people in from all over the world
to improve our economy.
But clearly you cannot have open borders.
Right.
We've got someone over there.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
I have a question.
Do you plan to go into urban areas?
Do you plan to go into urban areas of people like me in black schools?
So you get their mentions of cross, that's one.
And two, should be fortunate enough to win the presidency?
Do you plan to have a very diverse cabinet?
You look down Trump's cabinet, you see a slew of a few white women,
old white men, and Ben Carson.
All right, thank you for that great question, and the answer is yes, yes.
Look, this is a promise, absolutely.
My cabinet will look like America.
Okay?
And as this campaign progresses and we've already been to historically black colleges and universities
in South Carolina, we are going to be into
urban areas all over this country, absolutely positively. Let me, let me, let me ask you a
question real quick, Bernie. Just off of that, as a follow-up, you know, you started
the race in one place and we saw you have your journeys, you know, grappling with conversations in and around race. What do you think is the biggest thing you, as Bernie
Sanders, learned?
I'll tell you, that's a very profound question. And here's what I did learn. The issues that
I fight for, let's say Medicare for all, right.
Will probably help African-Americans, Latinos more than most white people.
Issues like making public colleges and universities help minorities more than most white people.
But you know what I missed in that whole discussion?
That it's not just health care for all.
I talked to a young black woman the other day,
and she said, you know, my mother hesitates to go to the doctor
because she doesn't think that that white doctor is going to treat her with the respect that she deserves. Okay? Or you
talk about health disparities, all right? You're talking about redlining in
districts today. Right. Where if I am a black business, I talked to a guy in Milwaukee, a successful small business, he said, Bernie, I can't get a loan.
I'm black, I cannot get alone.
You talk about education.
Young African Americans are leaving school
more deeply in debt than whites.
So I think I will do a better job this time,
and in understanding and talking about those type of issues.
Issues that specifically affect black people.
We've got time for one more from the owner, so I'll take it from this side.
Yes, sir.
Actually, it kind of eased off what you were just saying with the school debt and stuff.
For example, if somebody has a credit card and all of a sudden they miss a payment,
you're talking like 25, 30% interest, and you know,
that almost sounds like legal loan shark.
And how do we get, and you could now for the next three years pay everything on time, but
that rate never comes back down.
You know what, that is a great question, and years ago, we're going to reintroduce this. What you're talking about, loan chalking. That's what you're talking
about. And the way it works is that many of these large, I didn't know this, but
many large department stores, for example, make more money off of their credit
card, interest on their credit cards than to do selling them
virtanized. All right, so we are right now if you are a member of a credit union, if my memory is correct, they
cannot charge you more than 15% interest rates, which seems to me already to be pretty
high.
And that's what I want for this entire country.
It is outrageous when interest rates are so low that there are people paying 25, 30% in
because they miss the payment on interest in their credit cards.
And that's an issue we will definitely deal with.
Okay.
Two things, I've got to let you go.
I got to let you go.
One thing real quick.
I just wanted to ask you one question.
Because you're always on the race and you're doing your thing, you bumped your head.
Are you having fun?
Are you having fun? Yeah, I am, of course. How can I know you have a job? It's enjoyed.
20 seconds, everybody.
Thank you.
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