The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Black America's Mental Health Treatment Crisis | Zozibini Tunzi

Episode Date: December 18, 2019

Black people face major obstacles to mental health care, "porch pirates" steal holiday packages, and model Zozibini Tunzi discusses her journey to becoming Miss Universe 2019. Learn more about your a...d-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Comedy Central. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News, listen to 60 Minutes, a second look on Apple podcasts starting September 17th. from Comedy Central's World News Headquarters in New York. This is the Daily Show, everybody. Thank you so much for tuning in, and thank you for coming out. Thank you so much for coming out. Thank you. Thank you. Let's make a show. Take a seat, everybody. I'm Trevor Noah. Our guest tonight was just crowned Miss Universe
Starting point is 00:01:16 2019. South Africa's very own, Zosibini Tunzi is joining us everyone. Also on tonight's show, Pirates are stealing Christmas, why black people hate therapy and the Mona Lisa has an evil twin. So let's catch up on today's headlines. Let's kick it off with the major news that is shaking up the art world. For a century, the Mona Lisa has been considered one of the most important paintings of all time, but now we're learning it may only be half as special as we thought. There is only one Mona Lisa, right? Well, maybe not. This morning what might be another Mona Lisa, if it turns out to be a real Mona Lisa, it could be worth half a billion
Starting point is 00:02:02 dollars. This controversial other portrait, so similar to Leonardo da Vinci's masterpiece, has long sparked intense debate. Is it just a copy or an earlier version finished by Da Vinci himself? The minute I saw this work, I was really blown away. It took me five minutes and I was convinced. It took you five minutes and you were convinced? Maybe take 10 minutes or 15 before you shake history? What's your rush?
Starting point is 00:02:31 Like maybe if you'd taken more than five minutes, you might have noticed that the new Mona Lisa is wearing airpods, uh? Because you realize, if it's true, this story is huge. Two Mona Lisa's, Monlicis, Mona Lisa, however you say it, this is huge. Because it means that people in the 16th century treated paintings the same way we treat Instagram today. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:56 Just like, no, paint it again, I blinked. Also, my smile is weird on that one. I can't teal if I'm smiling or not. I didn't even even even even even think think thia thia thia thia thia thia th on that one. I can't deal with them on smiling or not. I didn't even see it. I feel like this picture needs a filter. Let's go to Valencia. Oh, and speaking of Earth's shattering news, global warming. Every day we move closer and closer to an all-out climate emergency.
Starting point is 00:03:14 And if you're worried that world leaders aren't up to the United Nations climate talks come to an end in Madrid. There's very little action even though evidence of climate change is all around. The world struggled to respond to the crisis at a UN climate summit in Madrid. We are a little confused about what documents are being discussed. We're starting to get a little lost. We are kind of lost. Okay. These are the warning signs our climate is in trouble. 200 foot flames this weekend raced across the Australian outback. In Sydney, the smoke is so bad, it's like smoking 32 cigarettes a day.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Greenland is losing ice seven times faster than it was in the 90s. The warnings are there. But who is listening? Are you shitting me? The world is falling apart and leaders at the UN couldn't agree on what to do. Yeah, we don't know where the papers are, I'm sorry, we're a little confused. You know what from now on? Climate meetings shouldn't be in a comfy conference room. They should be held on a melting glacier.
Starting point is 00:04:16 That's where it should be. Get these people some motivation. That's what that shit out. And you know, as much as we're disappointed at how slow our leaders are to act, I think it's movies that we should blame for making us think that leaders are decisive in the first place. Because like, you watch Armageddon, and it's like, sir, an asteroid is headed to earth, and it's like, all right, get me Bruce Will, we'd be like, sir, an asteroid is coming to Earth, it'll be like, okay, wait, are we calling it an asteroid or a comet? Let's convene a panel to discuss terminology, okay?
Starting point is 00:04:52 We don't need a panel, we need a committee. Wait, is it a committee or a panel? I'm lost. But we can't keep delaying action. The earth is getting hotter. The oceans are getting hotter. Kamele Nanjani is getting hotter. We have to stop this madness. All right, and finally, some entertainment news. Amazon is producing a Lord of the Rings TV show. And if you think you don't have the looks for Hollywood,
Starting point is 00:05:19 this casting call might change your mind. If you are hairy, toothless, extremely tall, extremely short, you could be an extra in the new Lord of the Ring series. The new Amazon show is based on the mythical land of Middle Earth and begins production in New Zealand next year. An ad from one of the two local talent agencies, helping with the search, said it was looking for people with, among other things, missing teeth and wonderful noses. Wow. Missing teeth and wonderful noses.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Sounds less like a costing decision and more like their makeup artist quits. Yeah, now they're just like, all right, anybody that we're gonna cast has to come already ugly, all right? We're gonna do this? And by the way, I know they say that this is for the show, but this might just be a trap for tricking people into working in Amazon's warehouses. Yeah. You'll be there like, I'm here for the audition. They're like, all right, take that PlayStation and put in a box.
Starting point is 00:06:10 Just keep doing that. Do it again and again and again. What does it have to do with Lord of the the to do or a Hobbit, you can hit Amazon up. But if you were looking to play Smeagel, Bad News, they already gave that part to Rudy Giuliani. Yeah, yeah, he's got it already. And that's really gonna mess the story up, right? Because he's gonna be in the story,
Starting point is 00:06:38 and a lot of the rings, they're gonna be like, we're going to Mordor to find the ring. And he'll be he'll be like he'll be like he'll be like he'll be like he'll be like he'll the thoer he'll tho' he'll thine he'll tho' he'll thi he'll thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. tho'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'er. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. tho. tho. tho. the. tho. the. thoooooooooooooooo'n. thooooooooooooo'n. to to to to to to to to to Mordor to find the ring and he'll be like and dirt on Joe Biden. All right that's it for the headlines let's move on to our top story. The holiday season is finally upon us and you know what that means family decorations and an old man breaking into your house while the children are asleep. I still don't understand how that's legal. But unfortunately, for a lot of people, Christmas can also be a tough time emotionally. They call it the most wonderful time of the year, but the holidays can also bring boatloads of stress.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Believe it or not, there is such a thing as festive stress. Holidays are typically the busiest time of year for mental health professionals. 64% of people experience feelings of anxiety or depression during the holidays. Yeah, it turns out the holiday season is the worst time for anxiety and depression, which makes sense. Because think about it, you see your whole family and they're either not doing well or they're all doing better than you. Either way, it sucks. Now, one thing people can do is book more time with their therapist. But unfortunately, that's not an option for everyone. And it's especially challenging for black people. But let's find out why that is in another installment of,
Starting point is 00:07:56 if you don't know, now you know. There are few groups who could stand to benefit from therapy more than black people. I mean, think about all the things black people have been through. Slavery, segregation, winter, all equally traumatic experiences. But unfortunately, even as therapy has become more mainstream, the black community has had a tough time getting the help that they need. It's hard enough to get mental health treatment in the US, but studies show that racial and ethnic minorities are significantly less likely to receive mental health treatment than
Starting point is 00:08:37 whites. Black and Hispanic children are less likely to get mental health care than white kids. And studies show that irritability and the average white teenager is often labeled as depression. That same behavior is more likely to be seen as disruptive in black or Latino children. And doctors say that can lead to feelings of hopelessness at a very young age. Yes, one of the reasons many black people
Starting point is 00:09:00 don't get the proper treatment is misdiagnosis. What is seen as depression in white people can be seen as disruptive behavior in black people. And this shouldn't be surprising. This kind of thing happens in medicine all the time, mixed diagnoses. It's like when a black person has a seizure, it's a medical emergency. But when a white person does it, it's called dancing. But it turns out, it turns out, even when black people are properly diagnosed with mental
Starting point is 00:09:29 health issues, it can still be a challenge to find a therapist who's equipped to handle their needs. Making the crisis worse, not enough African American therapists. Today, only 4% of psychologists are black. Kevin Durton says admitting he needed help was actually easier thanapists. Today only 4% of psychologists are black. Kevin Durden says admitting he needed help was actually easier than finding it. He saw three different therapists but felt that none of them understood the stress and emotions unique to black men. When Taraji P. Henson's own son Marcel was
Starting point is 00:09:57 struggling she found it nearly impossible to find him one. Trying to find a culturally competent therapist was like looking for a purple unicorn with a gold horn. Do they understand the cultural context from which I'm coming from? Do they understand the culture that I live in? That's right. It's extremely difficult for black people to find a black therapist. And it's been like this for a very, very long time. I mean that's why Martin Luther King Jr. was always describing his dreams to huge crowds. You know, it's just like, I had another dream. That I'm being chased by bears and my underwear.
Starting point is 00:10:33 Does anyone here know what that means? Now, you may think that a therapist's race shouldn't mat at all. And that's true, but if you think about it, it does make sense. For many white therapists, no matter how good they are, it can be hard to understand the particular experiences of a black person. You know, just sitting there in a session, even if they're trying, it could be like, so you say. People are following you around the tooom. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the the the the the the the the the the the the the thoome. the th thin. th th throom. throom. thi. the their. throom. thi. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the. the. thea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. te. te. te. te. te. te. tha. the tha. the delusions. So when it comes to mental health, there's a very real struggle for black people to access health care, get diagnosed correctly,
Starting point is 00:11:09 and find a therapist who can relate to them. But if that wasn't bad enough, there's another major hurdle stopping black people from getting therapy, and it comes from the black community itself. We have a stigma in the black community when it comes to dealing with mental health. Black students say where they come from it's shameful to talk about anxiety, depression, and trauma. It's not okay to have mental health issues or like that's a white people thing. I've heard all the time black men don't go to therapy. They go to the barbershap. I told my own mother that I was seeing a therapist and she said, you don't need to see a therapist. What you need to do is see a preacher.
Starting point is 00:11:45 You got Jesus. You don't need anything else, you know, just buck it up. Ah, yeah, that's a line. Every black person knows all too well. You don't need therapy, you need Jesus. And my response is always, why can't we use both? Because church is a great place for community, but therapy is great for one-on-one mental health needs. I mean, I bet Jesus himself wish he could have gone to therapy at times, you know? Just be like, so my best friend betrayed me, and I was born in a freaking barn.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Plus, my birthday always falls on Christmas, so only get one set of presents. It's so shitty. So yes, part of the problem, part of the problem is that there's a major stigma in the black community around therapy. And honestly, I can understand why many black people would rather deal with problems at church. It's a familiar place for us, right? You trust the people there. And it's also a fun atmosphere. Like therapy doesn't seem fun.
Starting point is 00:12:37 Church is cool. I get it. In fact, that's what's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's what I's what I's what I's what I's what I's what I's what I's what I was that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's. that's that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. the. theck. the the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. that's that's the. that's that's one way we could try and help solve this therapy crisis. We need to make therapy a little bit more like Black Church. And I think it would be pretty dope. I don't know, it's just really hard for me to let people in. And I feel like it's probably because every time I show affection, it just feels like weakness. Uh-huh. Did y'all hear that? Did y'all hear what brother Jabuki just said right here?
Starting point is 00:13:08 Brother Jabuki said that he can't show affection because it feels like weakness. But before we can understand what hurt us, you got to understand who hurt us. Who hurt your brother? Puh. Wow. I would probably say my father.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Because he was really emotionally distant, but then so was his father, which is probably where he got it from. The sins of the father. Pass down from generation to generation. And what will break this cycle, other than a reflective analysis of the egos hold on your psyche? I need to self-actualize. You need what?
Starting point is 00:13:53 Self-actualize? Self-actualize? Self-actualize. Self-actualize. Self-actualize. He's going to empower himself. Overcome his demons. Deal with his forgotten memories. Repression.
Starting point is 00:14:10 Confront his dysfunctional avoidance of intimacy. He didn't go to prom. He didn't go to prom. He didn't go to prom. Well, we're out of time. We can now pick this up next week. Right, thank you so much. I've just been going through a lot, and it was really helpful to talk about.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Sorry. It should actually be covered out of Blue Cross. Son, the only cross of my network is Jesus. Hallelujah! We'll be right back. When we're right back. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives.
Starting point is 00:15:11 But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes, a second look on Apple podcasts starting September 17 We Welcome back to the Daily Show. With the rise of online retailers, it seems like everything is getting delivered to our
Starting point is 00:15:38 doorstep. Last year, my cousin was pregnant and her baby showed up in an Amazon envelope. Yeah, they saved on hospital bills and free shipping. But if you're one of the millions of people waiting for a holiday package to be delivered to you, you better watch out because some assholes are coming to town. Faster than they arrive, packages can disappear. Tonight porch pirates are striking across the country, just as a record number of deliveries are being made.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Captured on camera but not always caught by police, the New York Times says nationwide, more than 1.7 million packages are stolen or go missing every day, 90,000 in New York City alone, an astonishing 25 million dollars in lost goods and services across the country. Sweet Lord, 2 million packages stolen a day, 90,000 in New York alone. I mean, I only steal like two or three a week, but I guess it adds up. And by the way, why is the news calling them porch pirates?
Starting point is 00:16:38 These people just steal shit. That's just called thief. Don't be making people sound cooler than they are. Oh, I'm a Walgreens pirate. No, you're you you you you you you you you you you you're th, you're th, you're th, you're th, you're th, you're th, you're a th, you're called thief. Don't be making people sound cooler than they are. Oh, I'm a Walgreens pirate. No, you're a shoplifter. A real porch pirate would attack your porch with a crew and then take it over. Yeah, the house will be yours, but every morning you'd have to swashbuckle your way to your car. He's like, yeah, ha, ha, ha, I'm out! Ah, shit, I forgot my phone. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. You're like, ah, you in this time, Steve, but we'll see you when the sun sets.
Starting point is 00:17:09 Actually, I have a lot of work, so I'm going to be home late. Again, Steve? Your marriage is suffering. The other day, your son called me Dad. But no matter what you call them, stolen packages are clearly an epidemic, and the police have come up with a few novel solutions to fight this crime. The rampant theft has the Sheriff's Department in Washington County, Oregon going on offense, planning bait packages on front steps to catch culprits and deter potential criminals. Once the package is picked out, police use a combination of GPS, cell phone signal, even
Starting point is 00:17:51 radio frequency to track it down. In Round Rock, Texas, one police station creating operation front porch. Instead of risking theft at your home, you have your packages sent to the police station for pickup. We'll store and categorize and we ask you to come pick it up within three days. A place where you keep your packages secure so customers can come pick them up. My man, you just invented a store. And don't get me wrong.
Starting point is 00:18:18 It's nice that the police are helping. But I'm going to be honest. I think the police already have too many jobs in America. Police have to solve crimes they have to direct traffic they have to find shelter for the homeless they have to do social work answer white ladies calling 911 now they're working retail too so what you're gonna have cops coming up to your car window like sir do you know why I pulled you over because we got many cases, you're going to want to call animal control as well. A Los Angeles homeowner can rest easy after learning who was stealing packages from his front
Starting point is 00:18:57 door. You see it right there. Turns out it was this little guy. Surveillance video caught the sneaky squirrel in the act, grabbing an Amazon package and dragging it away. It appears the porch pirate has been pretty active. The owner says he frequently finds his packages in the bushes around the apartment complex. Yeah, you didn't see that coming, huh? A squirrel stealing packages.
Starting point is 00:19:18 I bet you thought it would be like a raccoon because they look like criminals with that mosque. But you know what, that's profiling. Because statistically squirrels s squirrels s squirrels s squirrels s squirrels s squirrels s squirrels s squirrels s squirrels the squirrels the squirrels the squirrels the squirrels the squirrels the squirrels the squirrels the squirrels the squirrels, I the squirrels, I the squirrels, I the squirrels, I their thi thi thiars, thi their thi. I thio- thiorea thiorea thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi thi criminals with that mosque. But you know what? That's profiling. Because statistically, squirrels in raccoon steel at the same rate, but no one suspects the squirrels because of cute privilege. You know what's funny about this whole thing, though? Is because the squirrel takes the package and then throws it away in the bush, it's almost like the squirrel is hoping they're going to be acorns in there and always gets disappointed just like, damn it, another iPhone. Someday, they'll have to buy acorns. It's all anybody eats.
Starting point is 00:19:48 It's all anybody eats. So when you're having gifts delivered this holiday season, please keep an eye on your packages. And if you forget to buy someone a gift, at least now you have the perfect excuse. Yr, it was the porch pirate. We'll be right th. We'll th. We'll th. th. th. th. We'll th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. You're rolling.
Starting point is 00:20:14 But that's all about to change. This is the treasures in our archives. But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes, a second look, starting September 17th, wherever you get your podcasts. I Welcome back to the day's show. My guest tonight recently became the third woman from South Africa to win the title of Miss Universe. Please welcome Miss Universe 2019, Zosibini Tunzi. This is so cool. Thank you. Wow. This is amazing. I know.
Starting point is 00:21:28 I should come here every night. This is amazing. You should come here every night. Just come and hang out every single night. Congratulations. Thank you, Trevor. Miss Universe. Has it sunk in yet?
Starting point is 00:21:39 I don't think so. I think this is like my almost a week now. And I think I'm getting used to to to to to to to to to to to this is like my almost a week now. And yeah, and I think I'm getting used to it because the first people would be like, Miss Universe and I'll just continue going because that's not me. Miss Universe. You dropped something. Is that me?
Starting point is 00:21:52 Jupiter, please, Miss Universe. But it is a surreal experience. I mean, because you want Miss to compete for Miss Universe. And I mean, you know, it's amazing, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's a thi, it's a thi, it's a thi, I, I, I, I, I thi, I thi, I, I the their, I thi, I their, I their, I their, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I the first, I the first, I the first, I the first, I the first, I their, I their, I their, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, their, their, their, th..... th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the first, the first, their, to, you know, to compete for Miss Universe. And I mean, you know, it's amazing women from all around the world. The competition has evolved over the years to become more about like what the women are thinking as well as how you look and what you want to do in the world. So it is a challenging experience to me on. Like, what was this journey as well. It was incredible the support that I got from back home but it was challenging as well because I had a new look that people were not used to and so I got
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Starting point is 00:23:15 that I was going to do Miss Universe and then international people as well started you know commenting in and I think my most interesting one was when I came to New York for the first time, I think about four months ago. I came back to South Africa. It was quite, it was late in the evening and I took a photo from my apartment. And I was like, oh, such a beautiful night.
Starting point is 00:23:34 And I chuckle now. But at first I was like, what? And this tho, this photo is black, th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, it is thi, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's thi, it's thi, it's, it's thi, it's late, it's to to to to to to to to to, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it, it, it was, it, it was, it was, it, it was, it was, it, it was, it, it was, it was, it was, I. to to to to to to to to to to to to to too, I..... too, I. too, I. too. too. too. too. too, I. th th too. too. too. too, I was late too, I was late too, I was late too, I was late too, I was too, black as you are, Miss Black, ugly South Africa. And I think, yeah, it's quite, and I think it was in that moment where I was like, I'm not even mad. I'm not mad because I think it's just how society has labeled beauty to be. It's just how we've been programmed to look at beauty that way.
Starting point is 00:24:00 You know, the furthest you are from being fair is the uglier you are. And I just saw it as an education moment because I remember putting out a post, you know, just speaking about it, speaking about colorism, speaking about racism, speaking about how people need to see things in order to start believing in them. Right. And that was a big thing, especially for you, and I think so many people who saw you being crowned Miss Universe was, it was a moment where many people, and this is what really interested me, I was proud as a South African.
Starting point is 00:24:32 I was proud as somebody who's grown up on the continent, but what really got me is how universally, I mean, for our planet, many people said, to see a dark-skinned woman win an accolade like this, but then to see a woman with natural hair, win this, with her natural hair, is beautiful. And that's, and that's what a lot of people, initially wanted you to change. People were like, why don't you get a weave? Why don't you straighten your hair?
Starting point is 00:25:02 That must have been a challenge. Why didn't you straighten your hair? Why didn't you wear a weave? Yeah. Because this is my hair. This was the first question I gave people. We're like, You know, because I don't think anyone tells other people to put on a weave, so why, why should I, you know, at first people, like, was this a strategy? I'm like, to what? To wake up and be myself? And I was like, no, it's not a strategy.
Starting point is 00:25:28 I've had short hair for three years. And I wasn't going to change because I was now stepping into a beauty platform. Because then that means I don't think my hair is beautiful if I'm going to change it. And so I decided to keep it. You've kept that everyone is happy that you kept it. You've also you've also kept many of the causes that you've been passionate about you know a lot of the time beauty pageants are associated with a superfluous world but but as I've said over the years things are changing the focus is changing,
Starting point is 00:25:59 the focus is changing what people are trying to do is changing and and you've taken on a really powerful issue and that's been gender-based violence, which is far from a flowery issue that many people would want to tackle. Why gender-based violence? And what would you hope people would understand in and around this conversation? You know, for me, I think my thing begin when I won Miss South Africa. And femicide and gender-based violence is very big back home and I realize that
Starting point is 00:26:30 it's not only a South African thing it's a global issue because we have things like the Me Too movement we have things like the Times Up movement you know women are fighting all over the world to be safe again in this world which is you know it's quite crazy to me to have to have to have movements where we're fighting just just to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the to the the the the the the the the the the the to the to to to to to to to to to to the the the the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi. I's thi. I's thi. I's thi. I's the. I'm theeeeeeeea. I's things. I'm things. I'm things. I'm thea. I'm thi. I'm thea. I'm the. I'm the safe again in this world, which is, you know, it's quite crazy to me to have to have movements where we're fighting just to be alive, just to keep our lives. And I like to say, you know, women are an endangered species these days. I feel like one day we're just going to wake up and, you know, there's no women anymore. And it was so, I know, right? That's why I'm an ally. That would be horrible. That would be horrible. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:08 And so my thing is about gender-based violence is to bring in the men. That's always been my message because people will ask women, what do you think we should do to fight this? And I'm like, why are you asking me? You know, I'm not the perpetrator in most of the instances. So why don't we call th th th th th th call th that that that that that that that that that that that that that has the that has that has that has that has that has that has the that has that has the the, so why don't we call out on the people that are. And so... And that has been really beautiful because you have sparked a conversation, not just in South
Starting point is 00:27:31 Africa, but on all the platforms you've taken around the world and saying, hey, we need men to be engaging men and saying, hey, here's how you can do better, not just the men to the to be better, here's, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, to, to, and here, to, th w me, th.h. thin, thin, to, thin, thi, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, thi, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to be, to be, th........ And, th, thi, thi, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thi. And, thi. thi. the, th thr. the. th the. the. to the. toe. th to to to, the. to, the. And, thi. And, the. And, to be better. Here's how men can call other men out in making women safe, because it's the men who are the perpetrators in this case. You are a week in to being Miss Universe, but it is now a journey that is going to take you over the course of a year. It'll feel like a lifetime. It'll be over in a moment. What are you most looking forward to what are you excited to achieve? What do you just want to do in this period of your reign?
Starting point is 00:28:05 I'm so excited to travel the world. I must say, oh, New York is so cold. Oh, I cannot. Oh, when I got here, I was like, I'd really love to fill my toes one more time. Yeah, I'm so excited to travel the world. I haven't really had the opportunity to tra to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to trownown, to to the the trowne, trowne, the trowne, trowne, the the the the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the worldo, the worldo, the worldo, the worldo, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world. the world. the world. the world. the world. the world. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tro, Io, Io, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm tryo, I'm tryo, I'm tryo, I'm tryo, tryo, tryo, the tryo, the tryo, the the to, the opportunity to travel before and I think this is I'm going to be quite an interesting one for me. I'm excited to have my messages and everything that I'm passionate about to just go across the globe and one thing I always say is I don't want to feel like when I step out of this crown that it was wasted. I want to be responsible with it and now I have a platform of, you know I have 2.5 million. th. I have th. I have th. I have a th. I have a th. I have a th. I have a th. I have a th. I have a th.5 million. I have a to have a to have a to have a to have a to be to be to be to be to be to be responsible to be responsible to be responsible to be responsible to have a to be responsible to be responsible. I have a platform of, you know, I have 2.5 million people, thank you, following me.
Starting point is 00:28:46 And yeah, so I want to use that platform and whatever I do, it must just be purposeful work, you know, but also to build my brand as well, because when people ask me, what is this for you personally? Right. For me, I say it's the beginning of building generational wealth for my family, because it's not something that we've had in the past. That is one thing. That is one part of your story that I think a lot of people will be surprised by because you know it can often happen with the first time people see you're wearing a crown you wearing a beautiful gown or a dress and and people go like wow this has always been you. But part of the reason many South Africans were proud is because of the the story that came th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi the the. the. the. the. thi thi the. the the the the the the the the the the. the. That is the. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the before your victories and that was you came from humble beginnings. Yes I do I
Starting point is 00:29:27 come from a village Kutzolo in the Eastern Cape. Yeah I come from a village and you would know but you know they wouldn't know how it is the Eastern Cape I think is one of the most impoverished places of the country. While I was fortunate enough to have a mother, who's a school principal, and my dad who worked, at least I was able to go to school, but things are quite different for other people who grew up there. And it's quite difficult to make it out of there. And so I think because I grew up there and people saw me growing up there now, you know, I'm Miss Universe. It's, it adds like an element of hope to people who feel like they couldn't have been able to do it before.
Starting point is 00:30:12 It's hope for not just those people, but people who look like you, people with hair, natural, hair, natural, everything, who just want to be inspired. That's what you do. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Thank you. This is good. Don't give you any tunes everybody. Thank you very much. The Daily Show with Coverno Ears Edition.
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