The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Black Women's Erasure From Social Justice History | Liza Koshy & Michael Tubbs

Episode Date: July 30, 2020

Trevor highlights the erasure of Black women activists from history, Stockton, CA, mayor Michael Tubbs discusses "Stockton on My Mind," and Liza Koshy talks about "Work It." Learn more about your ad-...choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:38 Today's Wednesday, July the 29th, and here's your exercise tip of the day. If you're trying to work out at home, but you don't have weights, just lift your baby instead. Yeah, babies are surprisingly heavy. And if you don't have a baby, you can find one outside in a stroller. They're every way. Anyway, on tonight's episode, we talk about the history of black women being erased from history. The conversation Trump refuses to have with their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, toe, toe, toe, toe, too, too, toe, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, and we'll find out, who is America's top basas? So let's do this, people.
Starting point is 00:02:09 Welcome to the Daily Social Distancing Show. From Trevor's Couch in New York City to your couch somewhere in the world. This is the Daily Social Distancing Show with Trevor Noa. Here's edition. Let's kick it off with some good news from Hollywood, the only city that's got a name tag in case you forget where you are. Yesterday, the 2020 Emmy nominations were announced, and it was an especially great day for black performers who got a record 34% of the nominations, which is huge and well deserved. But it's still
Starting point is 00:02:42 not enough. That's right, I won't be satisfied until black people get 100% of the nominations. Yeah, you heard me. We're coming for you, white people. In fact, we want every role to be played by a black actor. I won't be happy until Kevin Hart is playing Queen in the Crown. Let me tell you something, Prince Charles. No one wants to hear your opinion. You ain't shit, okay?
Starting point is 00:03:05 I'm a queen. You ain't shit. Obviously, I'm joking, guys. It really is great to see black performers getting the recognition they deserve. And that's all black people wants. And we at the Daily Show are extra grateful, because once again, we were nominated, and so to say thank you so much. Without you, there would be no show, and no one would be tweeting me to criticize my apartment decor. I see you, internet, and you hurt my feelings.
Starting point is 00:03:31 But let's move on to the ongoing tensions between the United States and China. First, there was a fierce battle over trade. Then the US began blaming China for the coronavirus. And last week, the State Department expelled Chinese diplomats from a consulate in Texas claiming that they were using it for spying, which then caused China to shut down an American embassy in response. And I mean, all of that is basically the diplomatic equivalent of unfolowing each other on Instagram. So with all of this going on, it's no surprise that this story has people freaking out.
Starting point is 00:04:03 Now to a growing mystery surrounding unsolicited packages of seeds randomly being sent to Americans across the country. Agriculture officials are warning residents if you didn't order the seeds do not plant them. The packages appear to have originated in China. Uh, okay, this is really bizarre. People all across America are getting unexpected packages of seeds in the mail from China. And what's even stranger is that some people might actually be planting them? Who just gets an unexpected packet of seeds in the mail and goes, well, I wasn't planning
Starting point is 00:04:39 on planting any mystery vegetables in my backyard, but now it would be rude not to plant them. Haven't people learned anything from Jack and the beanstalk? You can't just go around planting random shit that people give you. Because then, before you know it, you're climbing up a giant beanstalk into the sky, and then you're killing a giant. And now you want it for giant murder. And so now you have to change your identity and pretend that you're some South African host of a late night show and you know what I've already said too much. Now I'm not going to lie, when I first heard the story, I didn't know what to think. I mean, why would China be sending random packets of seeds to Americans? Like what, in three months are those seeds going to bloom into Chinese soldiers? But it turns out, the real explanation might not have anything to do with espionage. Basically, Chinese businesses could be sending seeds
Starting point is 00:05:27 to people in America simply as a way to generate a fake sale and fake positive reviews which then boost their online ratings, which to me seems like a waste of time. I mean, it's really easy to spot a fake positive review online, because every positive review is fake. People only write reviews when they're pissed off. Nobody's taking the time to go on Amazon like,
Starting point is 00:05:50 broomworks as advertised, pushes dirt from one spot to another. Five stars. Either way, the joke's on you, China. Because plants have been the only thing keeping me company the last few months. Yeah, you're just sending me new friends. Isn't that right, Jeremy? Jeremy, you take that all-lives matter bullshit out of your mouth before I kick you out of the house.
Starting point is 00:06:13 It's not cool, man. Moving on to today's big tech news. While Jeff Bezos is testifying in Congress for the first time ever, his ex-wife, McKenzie Scott, was making use of her own. Because Forbes magazine recently named her the third richest woman in America, but now she's working hard on moving down the list. Mackenzie Scott, who used to be married to Jeff Bezo, says she's donated 1.7 billion dollars to causes that she believes are important to her. The money will go to more than 100 organizations. In nine areas of need, that includes racial and LGBTQ equality. Scott, who changed
Starting point is 00:06:52 her name to her middle name following her divorce, received a quarter of Bezos's shares when they divorced, and that was worth $35 billion at the time. Damn, $1.7 billion donated to charity. It's almost like McKenzie Scott is determined to be the anti-Bezos. She's woke, she doesn't hoard her money, and she has a full head of hair. I guess the only downside is if she ever starts a home delivery service, nothing you order will ever arrive in time. And you know, it's great that she's being this charitable because $35 billion is a shitton of money. Like, she's so rich that when she checks the balance on her phone, she has to turn it sideways. And when you're in landscape mode, you're rich, rich.
Starting point is 00:07:32 And you know the best part is you can't even say that she's donating all this money for the tax write-off, Russian aggression towards the US. And now, he's basically giving a giant shrug to one of Russia's deadliest schemes yet. It's been widely reported that the US has intelligence indicating that Russia paid bounties, or offered to pay bounties to Taliban fighters to kill American soldiers. You had a phone call with Vladimir Pusian on July 23rd. Did you bring up this issue? No, that was a phone call to discuss other things. And you've never discussed it with it. I have never discussed it with them now. It never reached my desk. You know, it never reached my desk. You know, they never reach my desk. You know, because they didn't
Starting point is 00:08:14 think it was intelligence. They didn't think it was real. You know, I read a lot. They like to say it I'll read. I read a lot. I comprehend extraordinarily well. Okay, first of all, I actually believe Trump when he says that this intelligence briefing never reached his desk. Because I mean, his desk is so full of Goya beans, where were they going to put the files? But it is bizarre that Trump is the most impulsive president ever except when it comes to Russia. I mean, people are protesting against the police and he's like, we got to send in the troops, break it up people, we got to destroy them. But when Russia is putting bounties on American troops, he's like, they're only lashing out because we hurt them.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Like Dr. Jen says, hurt people, hurt people. I mean, I guess I can't understand where Trump is coming from. It is super awkward bringing up to your buddy how he put a bounty on your soldier's heads. You know, you're talking sports, you're talking chicks. You don't want to ruin the vibe with how he's spearheading a campaign to compensate enemy combatants for killing your troops. Zero chill, man, chill. And finally, an update on the protests that that that that that that the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, tho, thi, thi, the, the, tho, tho, to to tho, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thu, thu, thu, thu, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, on the protests that have been shaking Portland. Just moments ago, the governor of Oregon says federal agents are looking at leaving the city in a, quote, phased withdrawal. Those were the governor's words. However, this was President
Starting point is 00:09:38 Trump appearing to dismiss that idea this morning. We have all sorts of reports about us leaving. We're not leaving until they've secured their city. If they don't secure their city soon, we have no choice, we're going to have to go in and clean it out. You want to clean out Portland? Well, that's a good idea. I mean, you guys left a lot of tear gas canisters been very scary for America as a whole. And I'll tell you now it's been especially scary for black people.
Starting point is 00:10:08 I mean, Portland is the whitest city in America and they're still sending in federal troops. I mean, if that's what they're willing to do there, who knows what they're willing to do to minority groups? It's like seeing a white person kick a golden retriever. Yo, if that dog isn't safe, you damn well know your black ass isn't. All right, we're going to take a short break. But when we come back, we'll tell you about the black women that history forgot. Stick around. Finding great candidates to hire can be like trying to find a needle in a haystack.
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Starting point is 00:11:25 zip. Zip. Zip Recruiter.com slash zip. Zip Recruiter. The smartest way to hire. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. You're rolling? But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes, a second look on Apple podcasts starting September 17. Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show. So other than coronavirus, the biggest story this year has been Black Lives Matter, a movement fighting for equality and justice, and the reason so many of your favorite statues are
Starting point is 00:12:14 suddenly unemployed. But as much as everyone has been talking about BLM, there's one aspect that doesn't get talked about enough. The role of black women in the movement. A national attention focused on police brutality of and police killings of, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their,. The role of black women in the movement. National attention focused on police brutality of and police killings of black men is not extended to black women. Often black women, black trans women are left out of the conversation. While the names most associated with the Black Lives Matter movement are male,
Starting point is 00:12:44 black women and girls are regularly victim to police brutality in the US. Black women's experiences of police brutality tend to receive far less media and political attention. Dealing with this double layer of discrimination, black women have often been at the heart of key civil rights movements. For example, the Black Lives Matter movement, founded three women back in 2013. Yeah, think about it. There's this giant historic movement sweeping the country and 99% of us have never even heard of the women who founded it, which is pretty egregious. I mean we all know who
Starting point is 00:13:22 founded KFC and that's not even a movement for racial equality. I mean, that's just a movement for destroying your bowels. And look, I'll be honest, I didn't know black women started the black lives matter movements. Partly because Aunt Vecke told me it was her daughter. It was really convincing, she had a resume and everything and everything. But the unfortunate truth is over a the the the the the the the thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's that's, that's that's that's, thoomuuu... the. thr-a, thr-s. that's thr-a, that's thr-s. thr-a, thooooomorrow, that's just just just just just just too isn't anything new, as we'll find out in another installment of, if you don't know, now you know. Although black women have been the pioneers of so many movements that have changed the world,
Starting point is 00:14:03 the erasure of black women from the story of these movements is something we've seen many times throughout American history. Starting all the way back with the women's suffrage movements. African American women in particular played a significant and sometimes overlooked role at a suffrage movement. There were African American women fighting for suffrage from the beginning, you know sojourned truth in the time of the Civil War I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I had I had I had I had I had I had I had I had I had I had I had I had I had I had I had I had a to be well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well. I'd a to be well. I'd a to be well. I'd a to be well. I'd a to be wellededed. I'd a to be well. to bea. to to to to to to to their. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the so during the truth in the time of the Civil War, Ida B. Wells Barnett and Mary Church Terrell. They built a movement that would grow to half a million, but they would never find acceptance among mainstream suffragists. At that time, suffrage leaders were actively wooing southern white members.
Starting point is 00:14:40 To appease the suffragettes, white suffragists found it expedient to abandon their black sisters. They minimized the presence of black women in that struggle. Elizabeth Kady Stanton seized control of suffrage history and this multi-volume book that still dominates the histories and essentially wrote black women out of that. That's right. Black suffragettes were literally written out of the history books by white women in the movement. And just look at their faces.
Starting point is 00:15:06 It's like they had already seen the future and they were like, mm-hmm, I'm not going to get credit for any of this, am I? Because the truth is, certain white feminist heroes were super problematic. I mean, people remember them like they were early versions of Wonder Woman, when in reality, they were more the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th, th, more like the mom from Get Out. Now, you may not be surprised that these 1920s Karens were eager to accept black women's work, but give them none of the credit. But what may surprise you is that black men in the civil rights movement were also happy to do a similar thing. Most women who worked in the movement were not really known. Media attention would always be drawn to the men of the movement as they're doing work,
Starting point is 00:15:49 the Martin Luther Kings and others, but would not necessarily go to women like Ella Baker, who was a long-time activist, who helped to nurture and birth the student movement. Diane Nash was the lead strategist behind the citizens in Nashville and the Freedom Writers. She played a critical role in organizing the Selma marches. Dorothy Height was the godmother of the Civil Rights Movement, but because she was a woman, she was often off to the side, behind the podium, behind the scenes.
Starting point is 00:16:17 She was a guiding force at the table when the Big Six planned a mar-a-match, the lone woman at a table full of men. Yet despite all her efforts, Hite could not convince them that a woman should be allowed to speak at the podium the day of the March. Come on, man. This is so messed up. Black women with a lifeblood of the Civil Rights Movement, and still, they got cock-blocked by the dudes. I mean, the reverence got half a dozen microphones right there.
Starting point is 00:16:45 You can't break one of those off on my girl, Dorothy? She was a critical part of the group. It's like if the Avengers were fighting Thanos, but they made Iron Man cheer from the stands. And this just shows you that black women don't just have to deal with racism from the world. But oftentimes, they have to deal with the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the sexism within their own communities and the world at large. There's actually a term for it, misogynois, which means misogyny against black women. And it also sounds like the title of a really fancy French movie. I would love to promote you, but unfortunately I cannot because you are a black woman.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Oh, holy f-holy. So thrown, grieving and vacill a thing, far-songed, scraping and vacillation, because somebody won't get the ass-meet. So, throughout history, black women have had their contributions to groundbreaking movements minimized or erased, whether it's women's suffrage or civil rights. And the list goes on and on and on.
Starting point is 00:17:42 The role of black women in starting and founding the women's movement and feminism altogether is still not in the history books. Many don't know this, but the Me Too movement was started by a black woman, Durana Burke 12 years ago, to support victims and survivors of sexual violence. In the modern day calls for justice and equality, there's an echo of another social movement for LGBTQ plus rights, a movement sparked and sustained by black trans women. We never would have had a stone wall if it wasn't for a black trans women saying enough due to police brutality and police misconduct.
Starting point is 00:18:20 They fought back against the police that night. In particular Marsha P. Johnson, Sylvia Rivera as well as Miss Major. In 2015, when they did the Stonewall movie, although we all knew that these black transgender women started that, that riot that evening, they whitewashed it, and they started it and replaced them with white queer characters as the leaders of that. Damn. They pulled a reverse Hamilton on the Stonewall movie. You know what we need to do? We need to add those women into the movie with CGI.
Starting point is 00:18:50 Yeah, George Lucas has the technology and he owes us reparations for Jaja Binks. You know when you think about it, the gay rights movement was basically like all cool slang on Twitter. You thought it came from white gay men, but they actually got it from it from it from it from it from it from it from it from it from it from it from it from it from it from it from a black woman. So the next time you march with Black Lives Matter, or you exercise your right to vote, or your dance moves go viral on Tick Tock, don't forget that black women were a major part of making that happen. And if you don't know, now you know. Okay, when we come back, I'll be talking to Michael Tubbs, the 29-year-old mayor of Stockton, California, who wants to give everyone free money. Don't go away. Finding great candidates to hire can be like trying to find a needle in a haystack.
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Starting point is 00:20:32 It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. You're rolling? But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked looked at at at at at at at at at at at at. thaauuupped. thauited. thauited. thauited. thamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamam. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. thi. thi. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. the. the. the. the. the. to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at, that's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes, a second look on Apple podcasts starting September 17. Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show. So earlier today, I spoke with Stockton, California Mayor Michael Tubbs,
Starting point is 00:21:02 the youngest mayor in America and a man who has transformed the city of Stockton as we know it.. We, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th., th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I'm that, that, that's, that's that's that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's that's, that's that's that's that's that's that's th. that's th. th. that's th. th. th. thi, that's thi, thi, thi, that's that's that's thate, thate, thate, that's that's the, thate, thate, that's thi's thi, that's Michael Tubbs, the youngest mayor in America and a man who has transformed the city of Stockton as we know it. We also looked at his new HBO documentary about his life, Stockton, on my mind. Mayor Tubbs, welcome to the daily social distancing show. Thanks so much for having me. Really, for those viewers who don't know you in your story, I think when reading your list of achievements, they'll come to to to to to to to to the to to their to their their their, to their, their, to be to be to be their, their, to be their, to be to be to be to be to be to be toe, toe, their, toe, toe, tooke, and tock, tock, tooke, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, the toe, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, tooke, tooke, the tock... tock. tock. tock. tock. tock. tock. tock. tock. tock. tock. tock. tooke. of achievements, they'll come to understand why somebody's making a documentary about your life. I just want to read some of these things here that are so impressive. You have, since you have been mayor, Stockton has seen a
Starting point is 00:21:34 40% reduction in homicides, the implementation of the first citywide scholarship program, the implementation of the first guaranteed income program, Stockton went from filing for bankruptcy in 2012 to becoming the second most fiscally healthy city in the state of California. Stockton was named an all-American city by the National Civic League. And on top of that, Stockton has led California in 2019 in the decline of officer-involved shootings. So clearly you have a handbook on how to fix America and you're not sharing it with anyone. You're a 29-year-old mayor.
Starting point is 00:22:11 I mean, that's record-breaking. What are you doing differently in your opinion? Yeah, well, first I would have to say, I have a great team. So I think part of the secret sauce is not trying to fix everything, but listening to experts and listening to some to some to came before in terms of the things that are working. But in terms of the new things we're doing, a lot of it has been motivated by the fact that I think government at its best is to invest in people.
Starting point is 00:22:36 It's the wise investment we can make. Government is nothing but the people, the citizens can make, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, their, their, their, their, thin, their, their, their, their, their, their, the new, the new, the new, the new, the new, the new, the new, the new. And, the new, the new, the new, the new, the new, the new.. And, the new, the new, th. And, th.. And, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi.. And, is thin, is thin, is not, is not, is not, thin. And, thin. And, thin. And, thin. And, the thea. thea. thea. thea. thin. thin. And, is new. And, is thin. And, is, sort of prioritizing the needs of all of our residents, but also not being afraid to talk about equity, about the need to do more oftentimes for people that have had more done against them. And sometimes it's controversial, but it is yielding the results that we like to see in terms of a safer community, a more fiscally healthy community and a community that people are looking to for solutions instead of problems. Let's talk a little bit about your relationship with the police chief. America has been through a period now of a few weeks or months really where police brutality has come to the form. Stockton also has a story, has a history with how the police engage with the community.
Starting point is 00:23:18 You have now been instrumental in working with your team to reduce police shootings and police violence towards the community by a huge amount. What th what what th, what th, what th, what th, what th, what th, what th, what th, what th, what th, what th, what thiii, thii, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, thi, shootings and police violence towards the community by a huge amount. What did you find actually yields results between a community and its police? Yeah, well, part of its policy changes, so having rules on the book that make it illegal and punishable to use us to use force excessively. And part of its also ongoing training. And our police chief, he's been really great since 2014
Starting point is 00:23:46 and bringing us through this truth and reconciliation process where our police chief, our police officers, are in conversations with the community members, many of whom have been impacted by police violent. And the fact that every single officers of ours go once, not twice but continuously, I mean, we have a police chief who goes to black churches and says, I want to start to start to start to start to start to start to start to start to start to start to start to start to start to start to start, to start, to start, to start, to to the the the the the the the the the the the, the, the, the, the, the the, the, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the, the, the, and, the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi... thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thri. thri. thri. thri. thri. thi. thri. thi. thi. thi. And, but continuously. I mean, we have a police chief who goes to black churches and says, I want to start by saying that I understand policing in America
Starting point is 00:24:09 started with slave patrols. And that's an ugly racist history that every day with this bad, exactly powerful. And I think that's led the community to trust more, but that doesn't mean we're out the woods yet. But to tell you we have a lot more work to do and I think particularly if you look at the reduction in police shootings, part of it's significant because the number was so high before and that is that there was a real issue and somewhere creating a new baseline but always seeking to improve and get better and also now having a conversation like many other cities around how don't want cops responding to homelessness, we don't want
Starting point is 00:24:45 cops responding to poverty, we don't want cops responding to mental health. And that we have to create new cast of characteries and first responders who are more responsive to those needs, so we don't have police officers being social workers or homeless navigators. Let's talk a little bit about the program that arguably blew your name up all over America. And that was the guaranteed income program. That was the first time I heard of your name. They said, man, there's this young mayor who's out of California and his plan is to give people just to give them $500 a month.
Starting point is 00:25:22 And that's it. No strings attached, just here's your $500 a month. And that's it. No strings attached. Just here's your $500. And immediately, obviously there was backlash. People saying like, oh, so this is what America's turning into. We just give people free money now. Are they blackmailing us? We give them money to not commit crime. But you saw this in a really different light.
Starting point is 00:25:39 You said the reason you need to do this is for everyone's gain and that's what you've been doing. Tell me what you've learned from the program so far of giving people guaranteed income. Trevor, what I've learned from that is that number one, a lot of the troops that even I had about the economy just aren't really true. The first one being that if people work that enough, and we've seen it particularly now during COVID-19 but even before, that people are working two jobs, three jobs, and still can pay for necessities. And then the second thing I learned is that you can trust people. And then in society, we have examples of people that we trust. We trust billionaires and corporations.
Starting point is 00:26:19 Every time it's time for a bailout, we just give them money. We bell out industries. We give tax rates. And implicitly we're saying we trust those individuals to make good decisions with the money. And what I found in doing this pilot in Stockton is that you can trust regular people like you and me with money as well. That folks spend money, how people spend money, because they're people. So in stock that the money is spent on food, on utilities, or on taking time off off off off off off off off off off off off off off off off off off off off off off off off off off the money the money the money the money the money the money the money the money the money the money the money the money the money the money the money to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to make. to make. to make. to make. to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make. to make. to make. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the money. the money. the money. the money. the money. the money. the money. the money. the money. the money. the money is the, the the the, the the the the the the the, the the the the the toea.ia.ia.ia. Iia. I is time off of work when you're sick, or of taking time off of work to interview for other jobs. And then the last thing I've learned from idea, part of the issue with our economy is that we attach dignity to work. Everyone talks about the dignity of work, but I don't think there's anything dignified about working yourself to pay for necessities. And what I think we're try, we, we, we need, we need, we need, we need, we need, we need, we need, we need, we need, we need, we need to, we need to, we need to, we need to need to to need to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to to to to to to to to think there's anything dignified about working yourself to death to pay for necessities. And what I think we're trying, we need to get to as a society is really the dignity of humanity, like human dignity, that our dignity happens before we get to work.
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Starting point is 00:28:03 better when we do better. I talk about my personal experience. I talk about how my mother had me as a teenager, how my father is still incarcerated, and how all the troops I hear about people who are incarcerated or even people who are poor, just aren't true to my experience and the experience of the people in your community. And it's a lot of conversations, a lot of relationship building. And we the the the the the the the th th th th th th th and we th and we are th, and we are th, and we are th, and we're th, and we're tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho throes, thro tropes, true, true, true, true, true, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, t. And, t. And, t. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooes, t a lot of relationship building, and we're still not all the way there yet, but I also think that if we wait to get complete agreement on everything, we'll never move forward. So if it's right and it's beneficial for the people, we just have to move forward with it.
Starting point is 00:28:34 Well, I'll tell you this, man. At 29 years old, you've already shifted, you so much for the time man. Thank you for that. Thanks for having me. I appreciate you. Stick around because when we come back I'll be talking to the multi-talented Liza Koshi about her new Netflix film Work It. Stay tuned. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine th th th for th for th for th for th for th for th for th for th for th for th for th for th for th for th for th for th for th for th for th. Thanks for thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thanks thanks for thi thi thi thi thanks for having thi thanks for thanks for thanks for thanks for thanks for thanks for th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. Thanks for thi. Thanks for having thi. Thanks for having thi. Thanks for thi. Thanks for thiiiiiiiiiiii. Thanks for thi. Thanks for thi. Thanks for nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives.
Starting point is 00:29:12 You're rolling? But that's all about to change. Like, none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 minutes, a second look on Apple podcasts starting September 17. Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show. So earlier today I spoke with YouTube mega-star actor and producer Liza Koshi.
Starting point is 00:29:36 We talked about working with Michelle Obama to get more young people to vote and her new Netflix film Work It. Liza Koshi, welcome to the Daily Social Distance show. Thank you, thank you. It's an honor to be to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to speak to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s sci. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, welcome to the Daily Social Distancing Show. Thank you, thank you. It's an honor to be here, an honor to speak with Emmy nominated Daily Show. Congratulations on the- Oh, shucks. I appreciate that. No, but for real, though, you know, it really is amazing to have you here just because you have managed to find a way to do everything in your life exceptionally well.
Starting point is 00:30:05 You managed to turn what you were doing on YouTube into a presence on Instagram. You moved it to another platform. You've now moved into TV, you've moved into film as well. And as we saw in the clip that we just played, you're in a new movie that's where you're playing a character who's a dancer. And I mean, that's pretty much you, right? That's pretty much me. I'm pretty much just playing myself in most things that I do. But I tapped into a little bit of Channing Tatum. I channeled the Channing for this one. But yeah, I'm so excited.
Starting point is 00:30:30 I've been dancing online for years and I didn't realize that I was auditioning for this role in this movie to be the best dancer. But it was fine. It was so, the dream come true. Yeah, you know what, I feel like you're good at self-deprecating humor, but you are actually, I remember the first video I saw of yours, I was like, oh, this is funny. She's acting like, she can dance,
Starting point is 00:30:54 which is very funny. And then I saw another video. Like she could have danced. I couldn't find any research. Are you like professionally trained? Or is this just like, you were just like, no, I just dance. I have it in my bones. You couldn't find anything. I cleared out Google. No, I started dancing at the age of four. So I started doing like ballet and jazz and tab. Took a little hiatus in middle school, and then went into drill and dance tie. I I I I I I I I I I I I I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the. thi. thi. to to to to to the. thi. thi. to to to to to to to to to to to thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to thi. to to th. to to to th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. I th. the. the. the. the. thea. thea. thea. thea. theanananananananananananan toeaa. toea. toea. toe opera and beyond i still working on the thighs though but
Starting point is 00:31:25 i'm a professional dancer now and i'm very proud of that you've taken the following that you've gathered in all these different mediums and now you've gone hey i want to use this following to get people to vote and you team up with michael obama yes to get people to the polls to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the polls. Tell me a little bit about that. Yeah, so I feel like my journey or my audition for Mrs. Michelle Obama was back when I interviewed President Barack Obama in 2016, so I auditioned to work with Michelle.
Starting point is 00:31:52 And that really started my journey, and that journey continued whenever I, in 2018, went into a couple of high schools in Texas with Miss Alicia Keyes and Miss America Ferreira, and got to go and speak to kids to kids to kids to kids to kids to kids to kids to kids to kids to kids kids to kids kids kids kids kids kids kids to kids kids kids kids the kids the kids to kids the kids the kids the kids the kids to kids the kids to kids the kids to kids to kids to kids to kids the kids the kids the kids the kids to kids to kids their their their their their their their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, theirc-a...... their-Iuiiiaughea, tooomea, tooomea, tooomea, tooomea, tooomea, tooomea, their, their, their, their, reira and got to go and speak out to Gen Z go and speak to kids in crowds at their school and to see like a 16 year old like raise their hand and be like I don't know how to vote but I can't wait to do it when I can. So that was so exciting and invigorating to see that like movement and empowerment and just one kid so I though. that like thinnenene th th th th th thi thi that, that, that, that, the thi to to their to to their, to their, their, to to their, to their, to to to to to to to to to to their, their, to to to to to to to to to to their, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, their, their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thin, thr-I. to tooooo, too, to to to to to their, to their, their, their, their, their, theto all the kids that, and an audience that I have online. And now I'm so happy and honored to be working with when we all vote and getting the vote out.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Gen Z is so scary. They're brilliant, but I'm terrified of them. And I'm like right on the cusp of Gen Z and I'm like right on the cusp of Gen Z and so I feel like it's my job to like like like to like to like the to the to the to be to be the to be the to be the the to be the their their to be to be their their their to be their to be to be to be to be to be to be to be I'm talking to both crowds here. And I love, you know, I love how brilliant they are. They will make like a cinematic masterpiece on TickToc, but yet they don't know how to vote. They have all the information in the palm of their hands,
Starting point is 00:32:55 but yet there's the shame and not knowing it. So encouraging Gen Z to like step out of that shame, step into empowerment, and get excited about voting, having their voice heard. Like it's okay to care about issues that affect your day-to-day life. Your journey has been creating, you know, from your house, bringing us to your couch, telling us stories from your home,
Starting point is 00:33:18 and then you were like working so hard, and you got into Hollywood, and now Liza Koshi's star is blowing up up up up, to, to, to, to, to, to, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, and, and, and, th, and, and, and, and, thi, and, and, th, th, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, toeei, toei. and, toei. and, toei. and, toe, to into Hollywood, and now Liza Koshi's star is blowing up, and then coronavirus hits, and now all the TV shows are coming from your house and from people's apartments and from the couch. Do you feel like you got to the mountaint, but it turns out it was like in the valley? Like, is there a part of you that goes like,
Starting point is 00:33:38 wait this is what I've been doing my whole life? th. the couch? Well I'm happy to be back on my parents couch being like a parasite and just sucking them love, sucking them of their love and peace. But I'm proud because I get to help you know traditional transition into digital which is an honor to be able to do. You're doing my job now. Trevor you look good do. And it feels good to be back in like a familiar space but with like brand new eyes to see the world the world way after I've been in traditional production or I've been a director and executive producer now so now I get to come at content in such a new way and try to blend those worlds is like mission and it's all entertainment now right like it's not traditional digital it's like you're
Starting point is 00:34:18 just being entertained or you're being informed and there's a lot out there. And now it feels like a lot of you, YouTubeers who at one time were considered the kids on YouTube, you're now like leading conversations, you're now talking about social justice issues. You've evolved like as a group, which is really interesting to see. Do you think YouTube is also taking themselves more seriously than people used to take YouTubers. I think we're holding ourselves up to a different standard. At least I am and the evolution of a creator and producer that I've been. I think we realize how crucial and how important our platform can be and how powerful voice
Starting point is 00:34:54 can be. And especially with the world shifting too, like I think we're all having this internal shift. You know, if you weren't introspective before, you definitely are now looking in the mirror too long. So I think it's just a matter, it's been a matter of time for people to care about, you know, social issues, political issues, and, and, you know, express their voices and opinions online and kind of guide their audience to resources that, you know, they're tapping into or that they're excited about. I got to thank you because I am a th. I am th. I am th And I'm a suck up for sure, but I soak it up too. So thank you for being like my place to go to
Starting point is 00:35:32 to like inform myself all the more. But yeah, I'm just happy to share those resources with my audience. I think a lot of other creators are too. And when we all vote, I'm so happy to share that as a resource to figure out how to vote, where to vote, when to vote, and in the different way we're living in that's adjusted. So keeping yourself up to date with the newest information. Well, you thank me and I thank you for teaching me how to make a show from home. So Eliza Koshi, thank you so much for joining me. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. I'm killing the day. Make a Tick Tock. Make a Tick Tock. Make a Tick To. They're harder than they look, man.
Starting point is 00:36:06 They're hard. They're very hard. They take more time and they're way harder than they look. Liza, thank you so much, man. Good luck with everything. I hope I see you again. Appreciate it. I wanted to remind you that America is facing a nationwide poll worker shortage. And because most poll workers are over 60, coronavirus is still out there, many of them are not showing up.
Starting point is 00:36:30 But fewer poll workers means fewer polling stations are open, and it means longer lines that not everybody can afford to stay and wait in, especially in poorer communities. The good news is though, most poll working is paid, and in some states you can be as as young as 16 years old to do it. So th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And, and th. And, and to to to to to to to to to to to to to to, and because, and because, and because, and because, and because, and because, and because, and because, and because, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. And, th. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, to, to, though, most poll working is paid, and in some states you can be as young as 16 years old to do it. So if you're interested, you have the time, then this is your opportunity to save your grandpa, protect your democracy, and get some of that money. Until tomorrow, stay safe out there. Wash your hands, and don't plant strange seeds.
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