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Episode Date: May 20, 2021The GOP tries to derail an investigation of the Capitol insurrection, filmmaker Barry Jenkins discusses "The Underground Railroad," and Logan Paul talks about "Mayweather vs. Paul."To support Best Fri...ends Animal Society in their work saving the lives of cats and dogs all across America, check out The Daily Show Dogs Charity Collection at www.dailyshow.com/dailyshowdogs. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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I'm Trevor Noah, and this is the daily social distancing show.
Today is Wednesday, May 19th. And the big thing everybody's talking about today is the lineup for Lollapalooza 2021, which just dropped.
And guys, I'm going to be honest, I don't like how they design these music festival posters, right?
You got all the big names at the top, and then the names get smaller and smaller, like I'm taking some sort of Spotify eye exam. And I'm sorry. Like, I't think the Foo Fighters need the help of the big bold font.
Like if you ask me, all the bands should have the same size font because people don't go to
music festivals just for the big headliners.
All right, they go to music festivals to do drugs in a field.
I mean, look at this thing.
The print at the bottom of the post the post the post the poster is so small, it almost looks like Lala Paloza is trying to hide something. You don't like, wait a minute, zoom in.
Ah, I knew it!
Anyway, on tonight's show, Andrew Cuomo cashes in on COVID.
Republicans are ready to move on from the insurrection that they caused,
and if you're watching this at work, you might already be dead.
Plus, Logan Paul and Oscar winner Barry Jenkins are joining me on the show. So, let's do this, people.
Welcome to the Daily Social Distancing Show.
From Trevor's Couch in New York City to your couch somewhere in the world.
This is the Daily Social Distancing Show with Trevor Noa.
the ears addition.
All right, people, let's kick things off with a new study about jobs.
Do you worry that your job is killing you?
Well, first of all, congratulations on being basic.
And second, you may be more right than you know.
The World Health Organization says working long hours is killing hundreds of thousands
of people a year.
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working 55 hours or more a week is associated with higher risk of stroke and heart disease.
The study did not cover the period of the pandemic, but WHO officials say the surge in working remote and the economic slowdown may have increased the risks.
That's right, people. Working long hours could literally kill you. So the next time your boss
asks you to work late, you go ahead and report him for attempted murder. Shear.
At the same time, it's kind of weird because working can kill you, but then you also need money to stay alive., to to to to to to to to to to to to the the to the to the the the the the to the to the the the the the to the the the the the to to to the to the the the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the economic the economic the economic the economic the economic the economic the the economic the the the the economic the the the the the economic the the the the the the the the economic the the the the the the the thoe thoeconomic thoeconomic thoeconomic thoooooooooooooooooeconomic slow slow slow slow slow slow down to thoooooeconomic slow slow slow down to to thoeconomic slow slow to tho tho the same time it's kind of weird because working can kill you
but then you also need money to stay alive which is why it's so important to
find the right balance by stealing. And I know the study makes sense but I'm a little
suspicious of the World Health Organization here, right? It feels like one of their
researchers just got caught leaving early on a Friday. Actually I did a study on this and if I don't go out for drinks right now I could actually die. to to to to to to to to to to die to die to die to die to die to die to die to die to die to die to die. to die to die to die to die to die. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the the the. the the the the the the tho. the the their researchers just got caught leaving early on a Friday. Actually, I did a study on this and if I don't go out for drinks right now, I could actually
die.
Yeah, Jaeger Meister specifically.
By the way, don't you find it funny how everybody's response to this is that if working too
long kills you, then we have to stop immediately.
But when a study comes out that says drinking too much or eating too much, desserts will kill you, then everyone is like, yeah look man, everything kills you, people worry too much,
you gotta live a little.
In fact, usually when we find out something could kill you, that just makes it cool and
dangerous, you know?
So who knows, after this report, working long hours, that could become the new thing
that only bad boys do. Young man, you can't be staying up all night working on spreadsheets.
It's not good for you.
Just try and stop me, old man.
Now, if you're thinking about getting away from work with a nice trip somewhere,
just know that getting on an airplane is about to get a lot more uncomfortable.
According to the Federal Aviation Administration,
airlines might start weighing passengers before flights.
The FAA says it's to ensure safety on aircraft.
Air carriers may need to update the average passenger weight,
which would be done through random voluntary surveys of passengers.
According to the report, the weight of the average passenger and their carry-on back
would be raised from 170 to 195, an increase of 12%
Okay, wait, hold up, hold up.
Airlines could start asking passengers for their weight before they get on the plane?
No. No, no, no. You cannot be doing this right after we've been stuck inside for a year eating nachos in our bathtubs.
And please, don't tell me, oh, they have to humiliate the people to keep the plane safe. No. How about they get Boeing to
remove their automatic crash feature first, then maybe I'll start doing some
crunches. And also, I don't know if the airlines realize this, but it's not
going to work. You can't trust the measurements that people think they're going to tell you the truth, planes are going to be crashing left and right. Ah, why are we going down?
Everyone said they were doing keto!
Ah, pull up!
Pull up!
Because let's be honest, who's going to volunteer for this?
Huh?
The only people who want strangers to know their weight are the people who want to show off their weight. Yeah, sure, of course you can weigh me. You know, I actually still fed into my college airplane seats.
I will say that this is one of the stories that shows you how different America is from so many
parts of the world. Because if you did this in Africa, the shame would be completely reversed.
Because in Africa, being overweight is generally a sign of prosperity. So if you show up at the gate all skinny,
African agents would just start roasting you.
What is this, huh?
What is 140 pounds?
Have you eaten?
Have you eaten in your life?
Are you not married?
Go back to their food court.
Look at this one.
Ah, no, no, this is suffering.
And finally, let's talk about Andrew Cuomo, the governor of New York and, wow, he's still governor.
Oh.
Cuomo got a lot of criticism last year for his self-congratulatory book about New York's
coronavirus response.
And now we're learning just how much money he made off of it.
Tax records released this week reveal that New York's Democratic Governor Andrew Cuomo
is said to earn more than five million dollars from
Crown Publishing for his book in which he shares his leadership lessons from the pandemic.
This despite harsh criticism of Cuomo's handling of the pandemic, accusations he and his administration
covered up data about nursing home deaths, and despite reports that the state's attorney general
is investigating whether Cuomo inappropriately or even possibly illegally,
use state resources and staffers to help write
and promote the book.
Wow, really?
Andrew Cuomo got five million dollars for a book
about how well he managed the crisis.
I mean, that's got to make him one of the highest paid fiction
rights of all time. And you know, once word gets out about this, you know, there's going there's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th, the thea' thea' thea' thea'eoleoleolea'ea'eoeo theo theo theo theo the's the's the's the's theously theously theously theously theally theally theally theally theally theally theally thea'ea'ea'ea'ea'e'e'e'e'e'e'e'e'e'e'e'e'e'e'e thate thate threats threats threats threate toe t of the highest paid fiction rights of all time.
And you know, once word gets out about this, you know there's going to be a lot of people
thinking, huh, maybe I should kill everyone's grandmas.
That's a lot of money.
And even though $5 million sounds like a lot, keep in mind, this number is coming from
Andrew Cuomo. So in a few months, we're probably going to find out out that that that that that that tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their, their their, their their, their their their thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thr-i. thrown, throwne is going throwne is going throwne.i. throwne is going the. the. the an the. the is going the is going the, the, we're probably going to find out that it was at least three or four times higher than that.
Now, the news of Cuomo cashing in on the truth of how he handled this comes right as Cuomo is also fending off charges of sexual harassment.
Although, judging by this new training video his office, his office has put out, he's dealing with that issue head on. Welcome to the New York State Governor's Office sexual harassment training.
Let's start with the fundamentals.
What is sexual harassment?
Harassment is not making someone feel uncomfortable.
If I just made you feel uncomfortable, that is not harassment, that's you feeling uncomfortable.
That's right, people feel uncomfortable all the time.
I go to the beach. I get sand in my shorts. I'm uncomfortable. Am I going to sue the beach beach beach beach beach beach beach beach beach beach beach beach beach beach beach beach beach beach beach the beach the beach the beach the beach the beach the beach the beach the beach the beach the beach the beach the beach the beach the beach the beach the beach th. th. the th. I go to the beach, I get sand in my shorts, I'm uncomfortable.
Am I going to sue the beach? No. Now that we have very clearly and accurately defined
sexual harassment, let's answer some common questions.
Have I touched anybody and any female in the governor's mansion?
Have I touched people? Yes. Of course you toucest people. I'm touching myself right now. Is this sexual harassment?
I don't think so.
Here's another situation that might come up.
Now, is it possible that I have taken a picture with a person who, after the fact,
says they were uncomfortable with the pose in the picture?
Yes.
Being uncomfortable isn't sexual harassment.
Both parties need to agree that they're uncomfortable.
That's what's called consent.
Let's keep listening, together.
This concludes the New York Governor's Office's sexual harassment training.
You now have all the tools you need to sexually harass anyone in your office.
Hmm? We're supposed to train them not to sexually harass anyone in your office. Hmm?
We're supposed to train them not to sexually harass.
But let's move on to our main story.
It's been a little over five months since a violent mob stormed the U.S. Capitol,
took over the floor of the Senate and passed a law giving tax breaks to in-cells.
And even now, the FBI is still tracking down the rioters, sometimes in the most hilarious
ways possible.
Another Western New York has been arrested, accused of taking part in the riots at the United
States Capitol.
Daniel Wormis of Alden was arrested last night for his alleged role in the riots
inside the U.S. Capitol January 6th.
Now here's the official FBI complaint.
We started with an anonymous tip from someone who says just six days after the insurrection,
they overheard Worma's bragging to his dentist about his trip to Washington, even playing
videos of his experience that day.
That person told the FBI they could hear Wormis talking about how he smoked marijuana inside the Capitol and how he refused police officers' instructions to leave the building.
Okay, look, look, look, wait, wait, wait.
You can laugh at this guy, but he's not alone.
So many capital riots have gotten busted because they bragged about it afterwards, which honestly,
I kind of understand. I mean, how could you not tell people about the craziest, most, most, most, most, most, most, most, most, most, most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thiolea, and thi, and thi, and, and thi, and that, and that, and that, and that, and that, and that, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, th. And, th. And, th. And, thi. And, thi. thi. thi. thi. that, thi. th. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that, that, that I mean, how could you not tell people about the craziest, most interesting thing you've ever done?
You stormed the capital. You have to tell people.
I mean, that's why I could never be part of a heist.
So, Trevor, how was your weekend? I broke into a casino vault. It was the most exciting thing ever, man. We got inside and
there were lasers, everyone was like, pew, pew, pew, pew, and then I was dodging the
laser, then I got and I cracked the vault, and I've got the money and I was like, bam,
I'm rich, baby! Oh, it was wild. All right, you can call the cops now. You know what is surprising to me though, is that this guy thiii thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, that open with your dentist? I'm scared to even
tell my dentist I haven't been flossing. And what really blows my mind is that someone could
even understand anything this guy was saying to his dentist. Have you ever tried to have
a conversation with the dentist? All right, just open wide. I'm going to move your tongue
over here and tell me. So how's your summer been going? And while the FBI is still working on IDing everyone who stormed the Capitol that day,
the ones that they have already found are working on staying out of prison.
Like, remember this guy? Yeah, the most effective anti-fur ad of all time?
Well, his lawyer has come up with one of the most novel defenses you will ever hear.
The attorney for Jacob Chansley, the so-called Q&N Shaman, who stormed the Capitol on January 6,
is drawing criticism over remarks he made when he was talking about the defense strategy
for his clients.
I want to warn you, this is offensive, but they are his clients. I want to warn you this is offensive but they are his words. Albert Walkin says quote a lot of these defendants and I'm going to use this colloquial term perhaps
disrespectfully but they're all effing short bus people. These are people with brain damage.
They're effing retarded. They're on the god damn spectrum. But there are brothers,
our sisters, our neighbors, our co-workers, they're part of our country.
They aren't bad people, they don't have prior criminal history.
F, they were subjected to four-plus years of god-dam propaganda,
the likes of which the world has not seen since effing Hitler.
God damn people! That's his lawyer saying that shit about him.
You gotta admit, that's one hell of illegal strategy.
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, my client seems like a brain-dead idiot who can be convinced
into committing treason. I arrest my case. Honestly, people, this was the craziest thing I have ever
heard from a lawyer in my life. I mean, this guy managed to use inflammatory remarks,
offend an entire group of people,
and completely distract everyone from what his client was caught on camera doing.
Donald Trump is probably sitting back watching this like, where was this guy when I was
getting impeached? I'm also a susceptible moron.
You know what's weird though is that even though the lawyer used all these horribly
offensive words in a strange way,
his heart is kind of in the right place because what he's really saying is that we shouldn't
criminalize mental disability, the neurodivergent and the easily manipulated, he's basically the
most unwoke, woke person in the world. You know, it's sort of like an old man saying, well I say the blacks are every bit as valuable as normal folk.
Neger, lives matter. But people, it's important to remember that a mob of morons didn't just
materialize out of no way. People encouraged and inspired these morons. And they made security
decisions that allowed these morons to break into what should be the most secure place in America.
I mean, aside from wherever Ariana Grande held her wedding, which is why many people in Congress are saying it's important to investigate how this happened. Although,
interestingly enough, other people in Congress are saying it's better not to ask. Congress
voting today on a 9-11-style commission to investigate the January capital attack.
House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy came out against creating the commission yesterday,
followed later by a formal recommendation by House GOP leadership for members to vote
no.
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell just announcing on the floor that he opposes
the bipartisan bill to form a January 6th commission as it is currently drafted.
But a careful consideration, I've made the decision to oppose the House Democrats' slanted and unbalanced proposal
for another commission to study the events of January the 6th.
In a statement, former President Trump said,
Republican lawmakers should not approve the commission, calling it a Democrat trap.
It's just more partisan unfairness, and unless the murders, riots and fire bombings in Portland, Minneapolis, Seattle, Chicago and New York are also going to be the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the House the House the House the House the House the House the House the House the House the House the House the House's the House's the House's the House's the House the House the House the House the House the House, the House, the House, the House, the House, the House, the House, the House, the House, the House, the House, the House, the House, the House, the House, the House, the House the House the House the House the the House the the House the the the the the House thoes' thoes' thoes' thoesuioesuiatseaucoucetsets, the House Democrats' the House Democrats' the House Democrats' the House Democrats' the House Democrats' the House's ness and unless the murders, riots and fire bombings in Portland,
Minneapolis, Seattle, Chicago and New York are also going to be studied, this discussion
should be ended immediately.
Oh, I'm not going to lie.
My man, Trump is right.
How is this commission just going to investigate January 6th when there's so much other
shit to figure out?
Like what happened in Portland?
Who killed Tupac and Biggie?
Who's the monster who created Jorts?
The people need to know.
But seriously, though, is Trump really trying to all riots matter this commission?
I mean, look, I'm not surprised that the GOP's leaders are trying to derail this thing.
You know, investigating the insurrection means the Republican Party would have to take a good hard look at itself.
And if I was Mitch McConnell, looking at myself is the last thing I'd want to do.
But look, investigation or not, Republicans are going to have a hard time convincing
most people that the capital attack was no big deal.
Which may be why they've made their own educational film to tell people what really happened that day on January 6th.
January 6th, what really happened?
Hello, children, you might have heard some crazy things about what happened on January 6th.
A terrorist mob heard from President Trump and began storming the Capitol.
A violent, armed insurrection.
But knowledge is power. So here's the true story
of that eventful day. The sun was shining and thousands of patriots had gathered to peacefully
protest, huddling around that classic symbol of nonviolence, anuse and gallows. It was zero threat.
On January 6th, I never felt threatened because I didn't.
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They're actually nonviolent, peaceful Americans.
Their only crime was supporting Donald Trump.
The DOJ is harassing peaceful patriots across the country.
That's right, just a rag-tag, merry band of freedom lovers.
And you know, they're peaceful because they brought peace restraints and peace spray.
And they tapped this one police officer with their freedom pole.
Some of them went in and they're hugging and kissing the police and the guards.
You know, they had great relationships.
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January 6 in this direction who could be more actively described as a mob of
misfits? They're like kind of solid Americans and they're deeply frustrated. Those
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And if you have any other concerns, remember it's best not to dwell on the past.
All right, when we come back, filmmaker Barry Jenkins will discuss his new series where the
underground railroad is an actual railroad.
They don't go away.
When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it.
This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television.
Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives.
But that's all about to change.
Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible.
I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes, a second look, starting September 17th,
wherever you get your podcasts.
Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show.
My first guest tonight is Academy Award-winning filmmaker Barry Jenkins.
He's here to talk about his incredible new limited series The Underground Railroad
and why filming it
was one of the most challenging moments of his career.
Mary Jenkins, welcome to the Daily Social Distancing Show.
Thank you for having me, bro, it's good to be back.
You are one of the most amazing filmmakers
that we have had the pleasure of experiencing in our lifetimes. It is not often though that a filmmaker such as yourself goes,
you know what, I'm not gonna make a movie
about the Underground Railroad,
I'm gonna create this as a 10-part television series.
Yeah, you know, part of it was when I first read Colson's book,
Colson Whitehead's Pulitz Prize winning book,
I knew that it needed a certain amount of space, a certain duration of time to story properly
and fully.
But also, too, knowing the subject matter of the book, dealing with the condition of
American slavery, I felt like I wanted to create creative work of art where the viewer
had a certain degree of control.
You know, when you walk in movie theater, you kind of surrender yourself.
You're held captive by the experience. You're among strangers. It's very loud and very
big and you kind of can't get away from it. Whereas with this, if it's something you're
seeing that makes you uncomfortable, you can pause, you can fast forward, or if you want
to see it again, you can rewind. Every movie that's that's, I mean, it's painful for so
many people to explore. It's uncomfortable in so many ways. I'd love to know when you're
making the movie, like what's the environment like on set? Is it, is it always like morose? Is it
always like depressed? I think rather than trying to creep around it, we addressed it head-on. You know, we had a therapist, a guidance counselor, a counselor, like, a counselor, a counselor, a ca, a ca, a ca, a ca, a c.a, a c.a, a th.a, a th.a, a th.a, a th.a, ae, a th.a, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a. to.a.a.a.a.a. to.a.a.a. toa.a.a.a. toa. toa.a.a. trying to creep around it, we addressed it head on. You know, we had a therapist, a guidance counselor on set at all times.
We tried to always check one another, you know,
to make it to understand that we were a community telling the story together.
And then, yeah, it wasn't where else on set at all times.
You know, it couldn't be.
Because one we knew the journey that we that we that we that we that we were on that we were on that we were on that we were on And in addition to that, we also knew why we were there.
And we knew that even though some of the scenes that we were doing
were very heavy and brutal and in some ways horrific,
our reason for telling the story.
To me, that was honorific.
And so there was always some way to remember to hold on to the light and what we were doing. I would be remiss if I didn't bring up
the fact that the star and and really the face of this series is my fellow
South African Tucson Beir, who you have just expressed all of your
admiration and love for and you know that there's so many sensitivities around where people are from and what roles they're going to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be...... and to be. And. And, to be. And, to be, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the the, to, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, I I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, and, they, they, they, and, they, and, they, they, they, they. and, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi. And, thi. And, throwne, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, they're going to be playing and whose stories you're going to be telling.
So I'd love to know as Barry Jenkins, when you choose the people and when you lay out the
story, how do you pick who you think can best represent what's happening on screen?
Yeah, to be honest, I don't feel like I'm picking them.
I feel like they're picking me in a certain way or they're they come come they come they come they come they come they come they come they come they come they come they come and they come and they come and they come and they come and they come and they come and they come and they come and they come and that they take the role. You know, with this character, Cora, it was a couple of things.
One, I knew the actor had to be strong.
You need somebody who you feel can withstand that journey.
But also too, I wanted someone who could show me
all the many facets of Cora's personality,
of her heart, her spirit.
And it came down to Tuso and another young woman who was not South African. I wasn't
just looking for South Africans to play this part. Trust me, bro, my life would be a lot easier.
My character in this series was not played by someone who's not African American. And Tuso
just, she was it. She understood the character, which to me is always the most important thing.
You also have a responsibility, some would argue to protect the character, which to me is always the most important thing. You also have a responsibility,
some would argue, to protect the audience.
You know, a lot of people have written about how,
in the history of American film and cinema and television,
you know, black trauma has been something
that has been just freely doled out.
How do you create a story where you're going,
this poverty porn of it all? it is is is is is is is is th th, it is a th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, to, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the it all. It is a story that happened and it includes this violence and this pain.
How do you find that balance of figuring out what we're trying to focus on?
You know, it's tricky.
You know, I try to be very open and listen to the conversation that's happening out on the public sphere to make sure I have, you know, I'm aware, their, their, thraran, thired, thired, thired, thired, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thi, thi, thi, and, thin, and, thin, and thin, and thi, thi, thi, and thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thiivities. You know, I want to acknowledge them and not necessarily let them dictate how I work,
but I can't, and I can't get into this conversation with you right now and go, I didn't know
people's stuff because that would be a lie.
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and essential to show and what can be told?
And so in the book, these acts, rutalities that she witnesses, they're a catalyst to get
her to the point where she decides, you know, what, no, this is too much, I have to go.
So I decided I need to show those things. She sees, they, to show they, I need, I need, I need, I need, I need, I need, I need, I need, to show, to show, to show, to show, to show, to show, to show, to show, to show, to show, to show, to show, to show, to show, to show, to show, to show, their, to show, to show, to show, to show, to show, to show, to show, to show, to show, to show, to show, to show, to show, to show, to show, to show, to show, to show, to show, they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they, they, they, they, they, they. they. they. they. I will, the the the the the the the the the the the the the tho, is, is, is, too, they. too, they. the. things, she sees them, the audience has to see them. Beyond that, they weren't to tell. You know, Ridgeway is telling these stories of brutality instead of cutting to them,
we're just going to chorus face. We're going to your country woman's amazing face.
In everything you need to know about how that feels, too so is performing, you know, with her eyes, with her shoulders. So it's thr- thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. We're thi. We're just to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. We's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thin. thin. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. thooooooooooo. th. th. th understanding that. But it's interesting because trauma cuts so many different ways.
It's tricky.
I will say in the first episode, when we do have these acts of brutality,
you know, we film in an extreme wide,
the only time anyone's whipped in this first episode at night,
you can't really see much, and then we come off the acute trauma
and we drifted over to the people forced to witness to show on some acute trauma visited
upon one but test-sizizes that filters into the whole community. That was the way I thought
if I'm showing this what am I unearthly beneath it. Right, right, right. So it's always being
thoughtful in that way. Yeah, man, tricky, thoughtful and in my opinion and the opinion of many
other people masterfully executed. Barry Jenkins, thank you for the time. Thank you again for an amazing, amazing production,
and hopefully we'll see you again in the future, my friend.
Yeah, man, give me back on the show,
bro, I would love to walk into the studio looking,
oh, we'll do it, for sure.
I appreciate you, my dude. Thank you very much. Don't forget. The underground railroad is available now on Amazon prime the the the tham, to to to to to to to the to to their. to to their. their. to to their. to their. their. their. to their their. their th. th. their th. th. thi. the their thi. to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, the, the, the, the. the. the. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to his upcoming boxing match against Floyd Mayweather. His strategy, don't get punched.
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My next guest is Logan Paul.
He's a podcast host, content creator, and entrepreneur
who is now trying to conquer the world of boxing.
Logan Paul, welcome to the Daily Social Distancing Show.
How are you, man?
Thanks for having.
I'm doing good, but you are one person who I never know how you're doing,
is the best way to put it, you know?
Logan Paul, you've got a name that gets people reacting
in some way, shape or form.
You say Logan Paul to some people, they go, I hate that guy.
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I love him so much, he's got the craziest gags and whatever.
I'd love to know from you, who do you see Logan Paul as?
Well, you're right, my name can definitely make people feel both things.
But I think it's because I've given them reasons to feel both positive and negative things about me.
You know, it's all, it's like, either way, it's my fault.
And at the end of the day, I just, I like the idea that I make people feel.
You know, I've always wanted to be a big entertainer.
And that's the answer to your question, who is Logan Paul?
I'm an entertainer. And entertainers make people care in some, shape, shape, shape, shape, shape, shape, shape, shape, shape, shape, shape, shape, shape, shape, shape, shape, shape, shape, shape, shape, shape, shape, shape, shape, shape, shape, the way, their, their feel. They make people care in some way, shape, or form, or invest their
time and energy into watching this person. And so yeah, I mean, I'm an
entertainer that's living a very real life journey like the rest of us, but
most of my life has taken place in front of the camera as a fault of my own. It's a blessing and a curse man, but it's fun. One one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one th f f f f f f f f f f. One th. One th. One th. One th. One thi. th. thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. I I th. I to to to to to to to to to. I. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm t. I'm. I'm t. I'm taken place in front of the camera as a fault of my own. It's a blessing and a curse man, but it's fun.
One of the things that's really intrigued me about this generation,
especially of like let's say YouTube's is,
it was this like unstructured world where you had these young kids
who were on camera just having fun with their friends,
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from getting completely f-ed up by getting that much money from just like this crazy world.
Because it seems like so many YouTubeers have this story where it's like, man, when I was
younger I did this crazy thing and I'm sorry and I did that crazy, I don't know a YouTube or a thi-I I that I that I don't that I don't that I don't that I don't thu I don't thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thr-I thr-I that's that's that's thi thi thr-a that's that crazy that's that's that's that's thi thi to prevent that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. th. th. thi th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thr-a thr-a thr-a thr-s thr-s thr-s thr-s thr-s thr-s thr-s thr-s to thr-a to thr-a'' to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to that experience has been like for you as a human. Yeah, man.
I don't know how much to know about my career,
but it's f-me up.
It turned me into a version of myself that I did not like.
It was the worst version of myself, which was a shame,
because obviously when I started making videos at eight years old, it wasn't to become famous or even make to even to even to even to even to even to even to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make my my my my to make to make to make my ca ca to make my ca to make my ca to make my ca to make my ca to make my career to make my career to make my career to make my career to make my career to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to mymymymymymymycure my caqqqqqqqqqq.aq.aq.aq.aq.aq.aeraeraeraeraeraeraq.aeraeraq.aeraeraq.aeraeraeraera caeru.a caeru.aera caeraeraer it wasn't to be a YouTube or it wasn't to become famous or even make money.
I just liked making videos.
I like the aesthetic of putting something on a screen and capturing it so my friends could watch.
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which was this like over-the-top, eccentric,
extremely loud, shocking human,
which sometimes works and sometimes is the worst thing in the world.
I've heard you once say that you think being a YouTubeer is harder than
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and your body and what you're trying to keep up with.
As Logan, did you ever think to yourself at some point,
man, this is pushing me too far as a human being,
even I'm not comfortable in this world anymore?
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and destroying everything I had then everything everything everything everything everything everything everything everything everything everything everything I thane thane th thi that I that I thi thi that I thi that I had that I had thi thi that I had thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. theat stand by that statement. The one thing I'm really good at is working hard.
And I'll often overwork myself without knowing what I'm doing.
Even just right now, training for Floyd Mayweather,
like my coaches have to reel me back in
because I will run until I get shin splints and blisters on my feet or throw
until I'm sore for the sparring the next day. I just don't think think think think thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin tho thu tho thu thu. I'm tho tho tho tho to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thu. I'm the. I'm the the. the next day. Like, I just don't know when to stop.
Do you think you're trying to prove something to yourself or to people?
I almost feel like boxing has been part of that journey for you, where you've gone.
I'm gonna take out this rage.
I'm gonna direct it into something that has discipline, something that keeps me.
Are you proving something? away from something, what are the demons that Logan is battling? Myself, it's myself.
This whole boxing journey is me trying to achieve that next level within.
I've always been my own worst enemy.
I am constantly battling this.
And so boxing, you use the word discipline, the discipline of boxing and pushing yourself
both mentally and physically, which has been a journey of mine for the past three years
now is like really crafting a person that I love.
You have made either the worst decision of your life or the most interesting decision
of your life in agreeing to fight the greatest pound-foam box of the world has ever seen Floyd Mayweather. Now, a lot of people are saying, the thi tho- and physically thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, and pushing thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th and physically th and physically th and physically thing th and physically thing thing th and physically thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the to to to to the to to the to thee the the the theee the the the thi thi thi thi thi life in agreeing to fight the greatest pound for pound box of the world has ever seen Floyd Mayweather.
Now a lot of people are saying, well, this is stupid.
It's going to be as publicity stunt.
First round, first minute, Logan's going to be on the ground.
You know, people doubt you all the time, and time again, you come and you surprise
people. But Floyd Mayweather is Floyd Mayweather.
So question number one, why fight Floyd Mayweather?
Question number two, how much of a chance
do you actually think you will have in the fight?
Question number one, why fight Floyd Mayweather?
My kids, kids will talk about this moment in history.
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Like you don't turn down an opportunity to fight a specimen that is Floyd Mayweather,
the greatest fighter of our generation. My whole life has been overcoming challenges that have been
thrown in my face and exceeding expectations surprising people doing what could not have could not be done. Right. And this doesn't th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th this th th th th th th doesn't th th th th th th th th th been thrown in my face and exceeding expectations, surprising people doing what could not have, could not be done.
Right. And so this doesn't feel any different to me. I've, I've never been intimidated by Floyd or let alone anyone.
And so how much do I stand a chance of beating him? I think I stand a chance. You'd be lying if you said it was impossible. He's human. It's a fight. Anything can happen. I'm 30 pounds heavier, half his age, a foot taller, like, and I work my ass off.
You know, I don't know, anything can happen.
I've watched a little bit of your journey as a person, as a person, as a po-soubter, as a
a poxer, as a podcaster, and it feels like you have expressed remorse and also a wish to become more of a whole person as you
grow older. I'd love to know for the kids that have grown up on Logan Paul, what are
the mistakes you wouldn't like them to repeat that you made?
This is a great question. I would, I would urge any young people who consume my content
to really, really, really lean into being themselves.
Please do not bend who you are or who you want to become for other people.
Even if you've found success doing that before, stay true to yourself.
It's so cliche, but often at times I find like, cliche things ring so true.
And that's one of them.
Just stay true to who you are and don't veer off the path.
Well, all I can tell you, sir, is good luck, man.
People are going to be watching because they love you. But to you, good luck th th th thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thi thi. thi. thooooooooooomoomoe. thi. thi. thi. thi. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. they hate you. People are going to be watching because they love you. But as you say, people are going to be talking about it.
Good luck to you.
Good luck for the fight, and thank you for joining us on the show.
Yeah, thank you, bro.
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