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Episode Date: March 3, 2021Rep. Madison Cawthorn faces sexual harassment allegations, Rep. Adam Kinzinger discusses the future of the GOP, and singer-songwriter HER talks about her song "Fight for You."In honor of Women's Histo...ry Month, support more women running for public office by visiting dailyshow.com/SheShouldRun. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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and this is the daily social distancing show.
Today is March 2nd, which means it's the first week of women's history month. That's right. It's that time of the year the year the year the year the year the year the year the year the year the year the year the year the year the year the year the year the year the year the year the year the year the year the year the year the year the year the year the year thoenhihioenhioenhioenomen. thoenicoenioionoananoenhioomoomoomoomoomoomoom. thoomomom. thoomomomom. thoom. thoomomom. thioenomene. thioe. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thiii. thi. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. the. the. the. the. the. week of Women's History Month. That's right.
It's that time of the year when men celebrate women's history by repeating it back
to women just a little louder as if we thought of it ourselves.
Anyway, on tonight's show, Dr. Seuss is canceled.
Governor Cuomo is crashing weddings, and meet Madison Corthon, the hot new scandal
of the Republican Party.
So let's do this, people. Welcome to the Daily Social Distancing Show.
From Trevor's couch in New York City to your couch somewhere in the world.
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Ears Edition.
Let's kick things off with the coronavirus vaccine.
The reason your grandma just reactivated her tinder.
Over the weekend, Johnson and Johnson became the third company to get a vaccine
approved for use in the United States. And in even more good news today,
it was announced that one of Johnson and Johnson's rivals, the pharma company,
Merck, will help produce the vaccine as a way to boost supply,
which is amazing.
Two rival companies teaming up.
This is so rare, especially in the pharmaceutical world.
I mean, we all watch TV.
We've seen those Seattle's ads.
They've never once said,
Ask your doctor about Cialis.
Or Viagra, all that matters is we get your rusty old dick working again.
And it's because vaccine production is ramping up that President Biden now says America will have a
vaccine for every adult by the end of May. Two months earlier than he
predicted just a few weeks ago, which means you're gonna have to foot back
into your jeans a lot sooner than you thought. Yeah, you better get working.
Now I don't have that problem because I cut all my jeans up for toilet paper last April.
But let's move on to Andrew Cuomo, governor of New York and shaved Geico caveman.
He's already spent this week fighting off two accusations of sexual harassment.
And now we're finding out about a third.
This morning, New York Governor Andrew Cuomo facing new calls for resignation after a third
woman has come forward with accusations of sexual harassment.
Anna Rook, telling the New York Times, the governor tried to kiss her at a New York City wedding
reception in 2019.
And then, sharing this photograph, she says, was captured on her cell phone that night
by a friend.
Rook saying that when Governor Cuomo put his hand on her bare lower back,
she, quote, promptly removed his hand with my hand.
According to the paper, the governor remarked that she seemed aggressive
and placed his hands on her cheeks. He asked if he could kiss her.
Sweet Jesus, man, what are you doing? I mean, on the one hand, asking women for consent before you kiss them is what you're
supposed to do, but the other part of consent is waiting for them to answer.
You don't just grab them by the face like a bear yanking on a beehive.
I mean, look at this photo.
How can you not tell that you're making this person uncomfortable?
If you're doing something to someone that's,s them into the emo-mogy,
you have done something wrong.
And what's so brazen about it is that he's doing it
right in front of everybody,
in the middle of a wedding.
So now I want to know, was he doing this the whole night?
You know? Are the bride and groom going to be the wedding, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be to be to be th... tho, tho, tho, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, tho, tho, tho, tho, th. tho, thrown, thrown, th. th. th. tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th....... th. th. th. thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin. thin. thin. thin, thr. thr. thr. thr. thr. thr. too. thr. too. thr. thr. thro. thrown, thrown, tho. tho.aring the cake on my face. Oh, and there's the one of Governor Cuomo licking it off.
And by the way, it's not like this happened in like 1992,
and he could be like, well, it was a different time.
This was in 2019.
If you're a public official doing this kind of thing after the Me Too M2 movement,
either you just can't help yourself or you're so dumb you shouldn't be in office anyway. So in light of these allegations, Cuomo is now facing even more calls to resign.
Although if these allegations prove anything, it's that Quomo doesn't go away when you want him to.
But let's move on, because while Governor Cuomo clearly hasn't adapted to the changing times,
one of your favorite authors from childhood is trying to.
In breaking news, the organization that preserves the legacy of author and illustrator
Dr. Seuss says it will stop publishing six titles because of racist imagery.
Dr. Seuss Enterprises says the books portray people in ways that are hurtful and wrong.
The six books being banned include and to think that I saw it on Mulberry Street, if I ran the zoo, Miguelogat's Pool, On Beyond Zebra, Scrambled Egg Super, and The Cats Quizzer.
There are some examples of racist imagery in those books.
For example, there's a character that's described as a Chinese man who eats with sticks.
And the depiction of that character has a pointed hat, slanted, slit eyes in another book.
Two men said to be from Africa are shir their their theircheless, their. character has a pointed hat, slanted, slit eyes in another book.
Two men said to be from Africa are shown shirtless, shoeless, wearing grass skirts as they
carry exotic animals.
Wow, okay.
So what?
We're just going to cancel Dr. Seuss books just because they're racist?
Then what are the racist kids going to read?
Huh? You didn't think of that, did you? You know the real problem with Dr. Seuss? Is is? Is is? Is is? Is is? Is is? Is is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is that, is that, is that, is that, is that, is that, is that, is that, is that all, is that all, is that all, is that all, is that all, is that all, is that all, that all, that all that all, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th, th th th th th th thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, that, that, thi, that, thi, thii, thiiiii, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, thi, thi, thi are the racist kids gonna read? Huh? You didn't think of that, did you?
You know the real problem with Dr. Seuss?
Is that all of his made-up words
sound like they could be racial slurs.
I mean, a zelf on a shelf?
The nubbards in the cupboards?
Oh, shit, I don't know what that means.
that thring down. And look, I know that this thing was blowing up and it was trending all over Twitter, but there's always going to be people on Twitter
telling you that this is the end of civilization, because fanning the flames
of culture wars is how they get attention. But let's be honest about what's
happening here. An organization is making a decision on its own that they
they don't want to be associated with their own outdated
and offensive imagery. That's not being cancelled. That's something that companies and organizations
do all the time. Like at some point Coca-Cola was like, hey, maybe putting cocaine in our
drink is harmful to the public. Maybe we should stop doing that. Nobody called that cancel culture.
And despite what everyone tells you, everyone does this all the time,
including CPAC.
Yeah, the home of freedom!
Just a couple of weeks ago,
they canceled the speaker for his anti-Semitic views.
Oh, but I guess that was just them looking out for the brand.
Yeah, it only becomes cancel culture when it's something you disagree with.
But still, there may be room for compromise here.
Like, maybe instead of getting rid of the books completely,
they can just update the imagery.
For example, take that offensive drawing of the two African men
and put it in a Tucker-Colson thought bubble.
That way we all understand, ah, this is racist.
Let's move on now to our main story. The other sexual harassment scandal taking over the political world right now.
Also tonight, serious questions are swirling around the youngest member of Congress,
an up-and-coming Republican with an increasingly high profile.
He is considered a rising star in the Republican Party.
But Congressman Madison, Cothorn's past, in the political persona he has cultivated, is littered with dark allegations.
Cawthorne faced numerous allegations of sexual harassment while attending Patrick Henry College in Virginia just four years ago.
Caitlin Colter went to school with Cothorn and says she was taken on what he called a fund drive.
His MO was to take vulnerable women out on these rides with him in
the car and to make advances. Cothran asked her about her purity ring in her
sexual experiences. Coulter says she felt something was off and shut down the
conversation. He got really upset and he whipped the car around and started
going back to campus at 70, 80 miles an hour on these one-lane roads.
And it was really scary.
There was a lot of sexual innuendo,
Lee Petrie told CNN,
it got really uncomfortable walking to and from class.
He would yell out,
Are you ready to take that fun drive today?
Oh, damn, that guy doesn't sound fun at all. This guy was apparently sexually harassing women while driving like a crazy person.
It's like if Mario Cott let you play as Harvey Weinstein.
And just to be clear, this wasn't just making a few people uncomfortable.
No, Cawthorn reportedly kissed women by force, put his hands up their skirts, and pulled
one girl onto his lap and put his finger between her legs.
In fact, it got so bad that RAs
at the school started warning students to stay away from him. And you know you're doing
something wrong when you're in the same category as STDs and alcohol poisoning. But the question
you may be asking is, who is Madison Cawthorn? And how did he go from college creep to Congressman
Creep? Well, let's find out in another episode of fringe watching.
One year ago, Madison Corthon was not expected to be the next congressional representative from North
Carolina.
But he narrowly beat a more established conservative in the Republican primary by falsely smearing her as a never-trumper. Because you see at this point, never-trumper is
the worst insult that you can say to a Republican. It goes experts, Prius
driver, and then never-trumper. That's the Republican version of the n-word.
You never trumpet Don't you call me.
You take that back why you don't use that word on me.
Okay, but you don't like Trump sometimes.
But what really propelled Corthon into office was his compelling personal story, even if
it wasn't 100% his.
Fresh questions about his own account of the car accident that left him wheelchair bound in 2014.
He was my brother, my best friend.
He leaves me in a car to die in a fiery tomb.
Bradley Ledford, Cawthorne's friend and the driver of the car,
telling the Washington Post that Cawthorne's accounting of the accident was not true.
Cothorn's own parents undercutting their son's story too, saying the driver of the car rescued him. The accident went on to be the core part of the narrative
Cawthorn weaved about himself as he ran for Congress.
He planned on serving his country in the Navy with a nomination
to the US Naval Academy in Annapolis.
But all that changed in the spring of 2014 when tragedy struck.
But in this 2017 deposition related to the accident obtained by CNN,
Cothorn admitted that he was rejected by the Academy before the accident.
So, this guy got rejected by the Naval Academy, then got into a car crash, and then
claimed the crash was why he got rejected.
Well, you know what they say, when life gives you lemons, you blame the lemons for everything and you hope no one checks.
And look, man, this is a horrible thing that Corthorne experienced.
But it's tragic enough on its own.
And it's also genuinely inspiring that he came back from it.
Which is probably why it's so weird that he felt the need to lie like his friend abandoning him to die to die to die to die to die to die to die...... to die. to die. to to to to to to the to the to to the the the to the to the the th. th. th. th. th. th. thus. thus. the. the. thus. thus. And in. And, thus. And, thus. And, thus. And, thus. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, the the the the the the th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, thean, thrash. And, thrashe. And, thrash. And, the. And, thrashe. And things like his friend abandoning him to die.
I mean, dude rescued him from a car and in return, he threw him under the bus.
And once people began digging into the rest of Corthon's story, they began finding lies everywhere.
For instance, he claimed he turned down Princeton and Harvard. That was not true.
He claimed to be a successful business owner, even though his supposed investment company reported zero income and had only one employee himself.
He even claimed repeatedly to be training for the 2020 Paralympics, despite never being an elite athlete.
Something an actual Paralympian compared to, quote, a kid saying they want to play in the NBA
when they're on the fourth grade basketball team.
End quote.
Which would obviously be ridiculous.
I mean, no fourth grader could play in the NBA.
Except maybe for the pistons.
I mean, they need help.
So, Madison Cawthorn has basically lied about every major event in his life.
And he's lucky that he's in politics because there's no other career where you can be
caught lying that much about your resume and still be allowed to keep your job.
So, instead of attending Princeton or Harvard,
Corthorne went to a conservative Christian college where he led a squad
known on campus as the DOOCH crew,
which is impressive,
especially when you think about how much competition there is
for that name on a college campus.
You know, it's like working at a hedge fund
and being known as the guy with the Coke problem.
But after earning mostly D's,
Corthon dropped out after only one semester to go and see the world. This 2017 Instagram post, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. thiiii. thi. th. th. th. thi, thi, thuuil, thuil, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu. thu, the the the the the their, their, their, their, their, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thu. thu. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I, th. th. th. th. the, the, theatu. thean, theananananananananananneuuu.u.u. theanananananneu. theanneu. theanneu. theanan, out after only one semester to go and see the world.
This 2017 Instagram post from a visit to Adolf Hitler's vacation home in Germany, the
Eagles Nest, where Cothorn refers to Hitler as the Fjörr.
Posting the Vacation House of the Fjörr.
Seeing the Eagles nest has been on my bucket list for a while. It did not disappoint.
I'm definitely not a white supremacist. Okay, you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you know you you you you know you you you know you th. You th. You th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm th. I'm the. I'm the. I'm definitely the. I'm definitely the. I'm definitely theeeean thean thean thean thean theean thean theeean thean theeeeeee. I'm the. I'm definitely not a Nazi. I'm not a white supremacist. Okay, you know you messed up?
If you need to follow your Instagram post with,
I'm definitely not a Nazi.
I mean, nobody's posting kitten pictures like,
just to be clear,
I definitely think the Holocaust was bad.
Meow.
And it's not even that he visited Hitler's vacation home,
so much as how he wrote about it. He it, he th it, he th it, he th th th th th th th th th th th th th thus, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, tho, thus, thi, thus, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th. th. th. th. th. to th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to thi. to to to to to to to to to to to to to toe toe tooooooooooo toean. called it the Führer's house.
I mean, that's an extra level of respect
when you're using Hitler's preferred pronouns.
I mean, he even included the two dots over the U.
What is that? The umlauts?
Yo, that takes effort.
I don't even know how you do that.
I think you need to buy like a special keyboard.
I can barely find the colon the colon the colon the colon the colon the colon the colon the colon the colon the colon. Where are you finding the umlau through Hitler? But maybe the strangest part of this post is that he said, quote, it did not disappoint.
The only way to make this post worse was if it did disappoint.
Just got to the Eagles Nasht. Bummer, not that Hitlerry.
So this was a little embarrassing, but it didn't stop Cawthorne from getting the ultimate stamp of approval.
Where's Madison?
Where is Madison?
Is he here?
Madison, Corthorn, a real star.
You're going to be a star of the party.
He rose to national prominence and then gained national attention at the summer's Republican
convention.
When I'm elected this November, I'll be the youngest member of Congress in over 200 years. And if you don't think young people can change the world,
then you just don't know American history.
George Washington was 21 when he received his first military commission.
Abe Lincoln, 22 when he first ran for office.
And my personal favorite James Madison was just 25 years old when he signed the Declaration
of Independence. Yes, that my friends is incredible. Or it would be if James Madison had actually the Declaration of Independence. Yes, that, my friends, is incredible.
Or it would be if James Madison had actually signed the Declaration of Independence,
but he didn't.
I guess Corthon is so into line that he's patting other people's resumes now.
I mean, sooner or later, this dude's going to get his alternate realities
completely mixed up.
And let's not forget Thomas Jefferson,
who left me for dead in that car accident.
And please, don't get me wrong.
This isn't the biggest deal in the world.
In fact, I'm kind of impressed
that Corthon picked the one founding father
who didn't sign the Declaration of Independence.
Look at those signatures.
They were passing that thing around like an office birthday card. And so, Madison Corthorn made thornthornthornthornthornthornthorne corthorn made thorn made thorn made thorn made court court court court court court court court court court court court court court court court court court court court court court court court court court court court court court court court court court court court court court court court court court court court court court court court court court court court court court court court court court court court court thorn made thorn made thor. thoe, thoom, thoom. thoom. thoe, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. to, to. to. to. to. to. to. to, to. to. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. those signatures. They were passing that thing around like an office birthday card. And so, Madison Cawthorne made history as the youngest member of Congress ever.
And he celebrated this milestone in American democracy by immediately trying to undo American
democracy.
My first act as a member of Congress will be to object to the Electoral College certification
of the 2020 election.
If you don't start supporting election integrity, I'm coming after you,
Madison Cawthorne is coming after you, everybody's coming after you.
Get on the phone, call your congressman, and feel free, you can lightly threaten them.
Yes, just a few weeks before rioters stormed at the Capitol building,
Madison Corthon was telling people to lightly threaten their congressman, which I guess is when you
say you're going to kill a dude and then throw in some funny memes just to balance it out.
But you know in many ways, the Republican Party couldn't have asked for a better star to push
their lie.
Because unlike the Paralympics, this is something he's actually been training for his whole life. So that's Madison Cawthorne.
He claims the election was stolen, lies about everything in his life, and has dubious opinions
about Nazis and an alleged history of sexual assault.
What I'm saying is, as soon as this guy can get a fake ID saying he's 35, oh, my friends,
he's going to be president.
All right, when we come back, Representative Adam Kinsinger will be joining us on the show to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the election to the election to the election the election to the election to the election to the election the election to the election to the election to the election the election to the election the election the election election the election to to the election to be president. All right, when we come back, Representative Adam Kinsinger will be joining us on the show
to talk about taking a stand against the president of his own party.
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When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it.
This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives.
You rolling. But that's all about to change.
Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible.
I'm Seth Done of CBS News.
Listen to 60 Minutes Social Distancing Show.
Earlier today, I spoke to Republican Congressman of Illinois, Adam Kinsinger.
We talked about breaking from his party to oppose Donald Trump and what he sees as the
future of the GOP.
Congressman Kinsinger, welcome to the Daily Social Distancing Show.
Thanks, good to be with you.
So, first questions first.
Where do people go to find a new family?
Because you were famously thrust into the news
when your family wrote you a letter,
not only saying that you had betrayed Donald Trump
and you had betrayed them,
but you had joined the Devil's Army.
Quite a letter to get from some of your family members. Yeah, it was a little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little to to to bea liiiiii. to to get to bea. to bea. to bea. to bea. to bea. to bea. to bea. to bea. to bea. to bea. tooe. tooe, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. too. too. to get from some of your family members. Yeah, it was a little surprising, you know, and,
but so, I look at it and say, look, I have great family,
some closer that, you know, may disagree on me
that aren't going to send me a devil's army conscription form,
but yeah, it was pretty crazy,
but I'm glad it got out there. I didn't release it.
She said it so far and wide actually that the reporter was able to find it, but it kind of shows people what's going on in families today.
But, your own family thinks that you have betrayed Donald Trump and you are betraying
the Republican party by saying that Donald Trump didn't in fact win the election and there
was no giant steel, aka the big lie.
If a Republican cannot convince his Republican family of these things, what hope is there
for America? Well, I do th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thuuu. thi. thee, thoomoomoomoomoom. thoom. thoom. thoe, the, the, the, the, the, thu. Wea, thoe, thi....... We's, thi........ We's, the the the the the the the the the the thi. I's, thi. I'm, thi. I'm, thi. I'm, thi. I'm, tho. I'm thoooooooooooooooooooooooo. I'ma. I'ma. I'ma. I'm thau. I'm the. I'm things. What hope is there for America? Well, I do think there's hope.
And if you think about it, look at how long it took to really go from, when Donald Trump
announced he came down in the escalator, he had like 10% support, everybody thought he
was a joke.
And then over time when he was talking, he eventually kind of led to this movement that we have. So to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thin, thin, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the, tho. tho. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the the. the. the. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. tom. tom. tom. toke. toke. toke. toke. toke. toke. toke. toke. toke. toke. toke. toke. toke. toke. toke. toke. toke. t. But I think up to this point, we've had no competing narrative.
You know, if you don't hear anybody say the election wasn't stolen, and
74 million people that voted for Trump weren't disenfranchised, they just were outnumbered.
Until somebody says that aggressively, you're gonna believe it.
And that's what's important right now.
It's just to all about owning the other side. And I still want to go out and fight for principles.
And that's where I think the pivot needs to happen
that's actually going to say, not just the Republican Party,
but the country is if we actually start talking about policy principle again,
how to bring people up from poverty,
you know, what defending the country means.
Those are the kinds of things not the loudest ones tweeting. When we look at that now, I mean, America is going through one of its toughest periods.
I mean, the world is. We've never seen anything like it.
Joe Biden is trying to pass his $1.9 trillion relief bill for COVID.
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Yeah, look, there was no effort to reach out. I'd never had a conversation with anybody in the White House about it.
No effort to say, what does it take to bring on board? I'm desperate to have a compromise on this, and I'm hoping that when it comes back from the Senate,
the the their that these states need and not just write in a blank check and that some of the money towards education for
instance is actually done this year, a lot of its next year, and there actually needs to be
more money for medicine and research. So look, I'm one of the ones that's eager to say let's do this, let's work on things together and that we both just have to be to be tho...... the thi and thi and thi and thi and thi and the the thi. And thi. thi. thi. the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. they, they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. the the the the the the. to. to. to be toe. toe. toe. And, toe. And, toe. And, toe. And, toe. And, toe. And, toe. And, thea. And, to. And, thea. And, the both just have to be willing to do it. And so I'm not going to blame the president for not reaching out to Republicans.
They make a decision, but I do think if somehow it gets blocked up in the Senate,
we have an opportunity to get this done.
The bill has quite a few proposals.
It touches on everything from, you know, raising the minimum wage, which is now
probably out of the conversation, you know, to getting funding, the funding, the their, th........
you know, to getting funding to people who work in restaurants and bars and making sure that people get vaccinated and providing PPP etc.
What would you change in that bill?
What do you think it's missing if they had come and spoken to you?
Yeah, I don't know if it's missing anything.
I do think we can come to a compromise on the minimum wage, for instance.
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So I would like to see an increase.
But on things like opening schools, there's over $300 billion to go to that, but most of
it doesn't go in until next year.
And you look at things like vaccine researches for the future, you know, Illinois for instance, which has had this huge systemic problem of fiscal mismanagement just gets a ton of money from the
federal government. I want it to be more based on need instead of just based on
number. When you look at that though, America has a history of under-preparing
for these situations. You know, if you go back every time it falls
short of the mark and in hindsight economists go, ah we just didn't spend a time there's like a stimulus bill every every time it falls short of the mark and in hindsight economists go ah we just didn't spend
enough money we didn't give the people enough money I mean 70% of
Americans are saying we want this bill we want these checks we need this help
don't you think it's better to earn on the side of caution and just go
like well let's maybe overspend but let's get the economy going and let's get people out of their houses and let's get people eating again. Yeah, look, I think it's a good point to make and I think, you know, for the last year, we've been doing that.
There have been a lot of pretty sizable amounts of money we've been spending on things like the payroll protection program, etc.
But look, if you want to reach out to me for that input, I, but they didn't. And the numbers I saw were like, hey, yeah, we're gonna spend a lot of money,
but we still have to understand what we're doing with it
because this money has to be paid back at some point.
So again, my hope is with the Senate,
you know, if it hits a bottleneck there,
we can have an opportunity for bipartisan,
and I'm still ablethis issue without just hating each other.
My personal opinion has been that, you know, I think the two-party system will in some
way shape or form end up destroying America.
That's my personal view because I think it doesn't give people enough room to be more
than just one of two sides.
Right now, though, the Republican Party is in an interesting place. Are you a conservative and do you have these beliefs, or do you raise a flag that says Donald Trump?
And it feels like more Republicans are saying, forget Republican, we are Trump.
Where do you then go from there?
Yeah, so that's what the battle is right now.
And I think that's going to be, we'll have a good idea over summer.
I think Donald Trump is going to continue to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be Trump is going to continue to be lessened
as every day goes on because Americans, we have a, we don't always solve challenges, but
we move on from them and we move on to the next president. So that's why I started country
first.com with a one S.T. is just like, especially for Republicans, independence,
and even Democrats that say we need a healthy Republican Party to have a place to to fight for the narrative narrative............ And, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the the to, to have, to have, the to have, to have, to have, to have, to have a to have, to, the, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, they.a, they.a, too, too, too, too, too, too.a, too, too, the, the, the, the, go to fight for the narrative of the Republican Party because I'll tell you what, the two-party system won't destroy the country if you have a healthy
opportunity for debate and an open tent. We should have people that disagree in the Republican
Party as the Democrats do in their party. Well, you are in for the right of your life. It is going to be
extremely vicious. It is going to be extreme as you've seen from within your
own family. And so we'll be watching and yeah, good luck to you versus Donald Trump.
Thank you. Well, you know what, some things you got to put it all on the line for it. I'm willing
to. I hear you there. Thank you so much for taking the time, Congressman. You bet. Thanks again to Congressman Kinsinger for joining us on the show. When. When. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to th. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thi, thi, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be to be to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the, the, the, the, the, thi. the the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. thi. the. the. the. the show. When we come back, the amazing her will be my guest.
And we'll talk about the Grammys, the Oscars,
and how she's taken over the world.
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Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show.
Earlier today, I spoke with Grammy Award-winning musician, Her.
We talked about making music during the pandemic, being shortlisted for an Oscar
and who the person is behind the mysterious name.
Her. Welcome to the Daily Social Distancing Show.
Thank you. Thank you for having me.
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Not the soundtrack of life, not the soundtrack of the pandemic, just the soundtrack.
That is what I feel like when I think of her.
Before we get into the music itself though, I would love to know the story behind her because
it is one of the most unique artist names I've ever come across.
Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, you know, I've just
always loved music since I was a little girl. It's always kind of been a given to me just
just doing music and I got signed very young, but I was making this this very honest music
in high school that kind of just represented what I like to call the evolution of woman and
me becoming a young woman and going through different things and you know changing and vulnerability and I guess you know even if it wasn't that deep it was
always that deep for me so I was writing this music that was kind of heavy and created this EP volume
1 and I really wanted the project to just be the cover cover of the project, to just be a silhouette,
where nobody knew what I looked like or, you know,
anything about me.
And I wanted to have everything revealed in the music
and not what we sometimes focus on with social media,
because I'm really about the music,
and that's where it came from.
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just the music, but on keeping the music separate from your life.
And it feels like it's really intentional, where you've gone, I don't want you to know the
person behind this. I want you to know what the person is giving you.
Why was that such a big deal for you? And is that a correct assertion? Absolutely. It's a big deal for me because I think music is the foundation and music is the main part
of it. We get so caught up in what everybody else is doing.
And then sometimes we get disappointed because at the end of the day, you know, we're all human,
we are all today.
We all go through things and we all have stuff we deal with outside of our art. And I really just wanted to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to focus to focus to focus to to just to to focus to focus to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi. thi. thi and what tho the the the the the tho tho tho the tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho the the the art and you know have a kind of a sense of privacy I guess but you know
the music is is the message it makes you want to fall in love and makes you
you know sad it tells you what's going on it is just a lot of things that
music does and I think we forgot about that we forgot about the substance
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to make a song about the pain that people are experiencing in life and you
know one of the most famous songs in that regard is I Can't Breathe
you know a song that came out during the heights of protests in America,
during the heights of many people's pain in America. You wrote another song the thuu thus in the black th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the. Soe. Somea. Somea. Someateateateateateat. Some. their their theat. their their their their their their. their. their their. Some. Some. Some. Some. Some. Some. Some. Some. Some. Some. Some. Some. So, their their their their their. So, their. Some. So, the. Some. Some. Some. Some. Some. Some. Some. Some. I I I I's the. the. the. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. their. So, their their their their their their their t people's pain in America. You wrote another song recently about Fred Hampton,
you know, for Judas and the Black Messiah,
another song nominated.
And all of these songs are really painful,
but at the same time, it feels like you're trying
to inspire us to something.
You know, it doesn't feel like it's a hopeless song.
It feels like it's hopeful,
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about the thing first or does you know does does the event inspire you? I'd
love to know what that process is or how it comes about for you because it
really connects with people. Oh thank you. It really depends you know when it
when it came to like a song like I can't breathe it was the heat of the
moment it was like okay I'm literally looking outside
my window in New York City and seeing a huge crowd of people protesting and I'm seeing all these
things on the news on social media. It's everywhere we look. And it's great that it's everywhere we look now
because now there's kind of this awakening I think going on and a lot is being exposed and we've had time to be still. And so, you know, I've th I I I I I I I I I I've th th th th th th th th th th had th had th had that I've that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th. that the the the wo their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their theeat. theat. theat. theat. theat. theeat. theea. theat. theea. thea. thea. their exposed and we've had time to be still.
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sit with this pain and this kind of anxiety like, okay, you know, some of the lyrics are like,
how do we cope when we don't love each other?
What is a gun to a man that surrenders?
You know, how do we judge off the color and, you know, all of these things that I said, it really was just like, why, why, why, why?
And we have to live in fear, why does this keep happening?
There are songs like, you know, from the whole other time, you know, back in the day,
there's songs that Sline the Family writing Marvin Gay, and people like that, we're writing that are still relevant to today.
And it's kind of like continuing that thought of like,
why is this still happening in that pain?
And I think the goal is always to make people hopeful.
And to also educate through music and let people know what's going on
and that we have a responsibility to try to make a change. And I'll never forget a call that I received from somebody,
and they said that their 70-year-old Jewish father listened to my song
and told the person that called me,
and they were like, you heard this song by this girl?
It really made me think differently.
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just off of what I feel and the responsibility
that I now feel to express what's going on today. As much as much as much as much as much as much as much as much as much as much as much as much as much as much as much as much as much as much as you as you as much as you as you as much as you as you as much as much as you as you as you as much as you as you as you as you as you as you as you as you as you as you as you as you as you as you as you as you as you as to as to as to as to as I as I as I as I as I as I as I as I as I to to to express as I as I as I to express as I as I to express as I as I as I as I as I as I as I as I as I as I as I as I as I as I as to as to as to as to as to as to as to as to as to as to as to as to as to as to as to as a as a as a to as a to as a to as a to as a to tooday. As much as you maintain your anonymity and your privacy, you also share yourself in one of
the most vulnerable ways I've ever come across.
You know, we're used to seeing artists on stage.
We're used to seeing these big lavish performances.
But once the pandemic struck, we saw her in a completely different way.
You started hosting really intimate performances, you know, from a room in your house,
whether it was like a Zoom performance. And it felt like
you were sharing a different side of yourself. It felt like you were sharing
the pandemic with us and then your thoughts about what we were experiencing in
real-time. What inspired that and were you ever worried about like almost
being too vulnerable and not being like prepared? You know a lot of people have the veneer, but you were just like like th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thr, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th, the, the, th, th, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thr, thr, thr, thr, thr, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, and, thrown, thr people have the veneer, but you were just like, no, this is me, let's do this.
You know, in the beginning, I was like,
oh, because one of my first times going on Instagram Live
was in the pandemic, and I'm in the house with,
you know, my hair and a messy bun,
and just plain old hoodie, And you know, there was all this great reverb. So I was like, let's just get into it. Let me just sing. Let me just sing for the people.
But it was, it was honestly a way for me to stay connected
and keep people updated on what I'm doing,
what I'm trying to do and in my artistry
and my create, my creativity,
but also boredom, you know, I really love music genuinely and wanted an opportunity to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, to be, to be, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the to, to, to, to, the to, the to, the to, th me, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tho, the thr..., thr., too, the thea, tooooo, the the the the thea, toooooo, too, too, too, to be able to still do my thing. And I think Instagram Live was a good place to do it.
And I started a series called Girls with Guitars and it was like,
now I can jam with other people on live, which is even better.
And it turned into something great.
So, you know, it was just something I wanted to do.
Good luck for the Grammys.
Good luck for the rest of the journey because it's because because.
It's gonna be a crazy exciting one and I'm excited to see where it takes you. Thank you so much. It's so great speaking with you.
Take care. Don't forget people. Judas and the Black Messiah is in theatres and
streaming now on HBO Max and the soundtrack featuring hers song Fight For You is available right now.
Right, we're gonna take a quick break, but we'll be right back after this.
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