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the Daily Social Distancing Show. I'm Trevor Noah. It is Wednesday,
August 12th and here's your coronavirus tip of the day.
Gyms are still closed. So if you're looking for exercise,
just do what my upstairs neighbors do
and jump rope at 5 o'clock in the goddamn morning!
Yeah, but seriously, apparently it's a great cardio workout.
Anyway, on tonight's episode,
Kamala Harris's secrets are revealed.
Jabuki Young White tries to get the vaccine,
and how your iPhone could give you Corona. So let's do this people. Welcome to the Daily Social Distancing Show.
From Trevor's couch in New York City to your couch somewhere in the world.
This is the Daily Social Distancing Show with Trevor Noah.
Ear's Edition. Let's begin with another important story about race in America.
Now, this is a story all about how one young man's life got flipped turned upside down.
And I'd like to take a minute.
Just sit right there.
I'll tell you about how this man became the prince of a town called Bel Air.
Now if you're saying, hey, Trevor, come on, that's a sitcom.
No, it's deadly serious. And the fresh Prince of Bel Air is getting a dramatic makeover.
You're going to Bel Air to live with your uncle and your auntie.
According to the Hollywood reporter,
Will Smith is teaming up with Morgan Cooper
to create a new show based on Cooper's viral YouTube trailer he created last year
that reimagines the beloved 1990s comedy as a modern-day drama. Smith is on board to produce and Cooper will co-write and direct the reboot.
Okay, I'm gonna be honest. I don't know how to feel about this,
because yes, the trailer looks amazing, but that's just the trailer.
I'm worried there's a lot of other moments from the original show that might not work in a drama.
I don't care what you say. There is no way to make Carlton's dancing dramatic.
And I know this because we've tried. You see? Plus, I would argue that the original Fresh Prince already had a lot of drama.
I mean, Carlton had a pregnancy scare, Jeffrey almost got deported, and overnight they switched
dark skin Aunt Viv for Light Skin to themahev. That shit was traumatic as hell.
But look, I get it. Hollywood is experiencing a lot of success with dramatic gritty reboots. You know, Joker, Riverdale, so fresh prints make sense.
In fact, I'm not going to complain. I'm going to cash in on this.
I'm pitching my own dramatic reboot of SpongeBob SquarePants.
Do you know why I live in a pineapple under the sea?
Why, SpongeBob?
Because a mango killed my father!
Let's move on now from the world of fiction to a story you'll wish wasn't real.
Congress is about to get even crazier.
In Georgia, far-right GOP candidate, Marjorie Taylor Green has won her primary.
She has ties with Q& on, an online conspiracy
theory group that the FBI labeled a potential domestic terrorism threat.
The business woman's come under fire for making racist, anti-Semitic and anti-Muslim comments.
She's also listed on the Southern Poverty Law Center's hate watch.
She's been endorsed by a man with ties to local white supremacists.
And she's a believer in the Q-A-Non conspiracy theory that centers on a person who posts his cue,
claims that inside knowledge of the president
quietly leading a revolution against the,
quote, deep state, and everyone's going to be put in jail.
That's right.
A Q&N conspiracy the Democratic Party are actually a secret
worldwide child sex trafficking ring
whose members harvest the blood of children
for its life-extending properties,
and that the only person protecting the world
from this evil is Donald Trump.
So, let me get the straight.
On the one hand, the Democratic Party is so smart and powerful
that they can run a secret shadow organization.
But they're also stupid enough to be outsmarted by Donald Trump.
Also, Donald Trump was B. F. F. F.s. with Jeffrey Epstein, aka a the white R. Kelly.
So, how the hell is he going to protect something that he's a part of? I mean, that's like Cardi B trying to protect the world from people who make bird sounds.
And another dumb thing about this conspiracy.
Why would any sane adults think that drinking children's blood
could have the power to make you younger?
Guys, everyone knows you can only get younger by drinking the blood of Paul Rudd.
Red blood. In other to having an adult baby face forever. Red blood.
In other news, New York City has successfully managed to get its coronavirus infection rate
down to just 1%.
And now they're asking Tim Apple to help them keep it that way.
New York City's transit agency is asking Apple to help slow the spread of the
coronavirus on subways and buses.
So the agency wants the high-tech giant to create a face ID that works with face masks.
The goal is to let people unlock their iPhones without having to remove their masks.
New York State requires masks on public transportation, but the agency says people are violating
the rule to access their phones.
You know, sometimes I think the greatest thing that ever happened to humans, and sometimes I think it's just going to set us back.
Because instead of just typing in the four-digit passcode, people are taking off their masks
so that the phone can see their face, which to me, which to me, seems like more work.
Honestly, at this point, I'm just pre-quarantine, and this is me now. Look at me.
I look like my own evil nappy twin.
And by the way, people, why are you staring at your phone while you're in the subway?
That is dangerous.
You've got to stay alert.
You never know who's going to come onto the train and steal your belongings or your heart? By the way, if you're a beautiful woman with brown hair who was on the E-train at 5.30pm
yesterday, give me my stuff back! I know it was you!
Now beyond the fresh prince, Q&N and MTA, there's one major story that's got everyone buzzing.
Kamela Harris, vice presidential candidate, and woman Joe Biden is going to call Home Girl in less than three weeks. After it was announced that she would be Biden's running mate, many
people were celebrating the historic milestone of having a black and South
Asian woman on a major party ticket. Although as you might expect, President
Trump had a slightly different take. Reaction was quick at the White House
where President Trump used his daily coronavirus briefing to bash Biden's choice.
She was extraordinarily nasty to Cavano, Judge Cabinor then, now Justice Cavanaugh.
I thought she was the meanest, the most horrible, most disrespectful of anybody in the U.S.
Senate.
Despite claiming he wanted Biden to pick Harris,
President Trump says he's surprised Biden actually did,
after that heated primary debate.
She was probably nastier than even Pocahontas to Joe Biden.
She was very disrespectful to Joe Biden.
She said things during the debates, during the Democrat primary debates that were horrible
about Sleepy Joe,
and I would think that he wouldn't have picked.
Yeah, she was so horrible to Sleepy Joe.
And that loser deserves so much more respect than that.
Like, is Trump attacking or defending Joe Biden?
I can't tell. You know, I thought this election would be Trump versus Joe Biden.
Now, I think we could just lock Trump in a room and let him hash it out by himself.
What did me say to me?
Me heard me.
I mean, of all people, Donald Trump should totally understand how you can be with a woman
who's publicly humiliated you.
He also shouldn't be surprised that past enemies can become your friends.
I mean, look who he's been working with. Ted Cruz, who called him a pathological liar and a narcissist. Lindsay Graham, who said he was a bigot and a nut job
who was destroying the Republican Party.
Marco Rubio, who called him a con artist
and said he had a small dick.
And of course, Jared Kushner,
who selfishly married the love of Trump's life.
That's right, man, we ain't never gonna forget.
If anything, Kamla Harris on the t Harris with Joe Biden is a genius move by the former VP.
Because not only does she tick a bunch of boxes,
but clearly, conservatives are gonna struggle
to put her in one.
Joe Biden is running on the most radical platform
of any candidate from any major party in US history.
Now with the most radical running mate ever.
She doesn't
really have core beliefs. Her record as Attorney General is absolutely abysmal
by fighting to keep inmates locked up in overcrowded prisons. As a
prosecutor in San Francisco, oh San Francisco she allowed well scores of
violent criminals to walk free. Did you know that Camilla Harris has a higher
rating from the Police Association in 2019
than from the ACLU?
She is soft on crime.
She has no friend of the police.
Harris clearly wasn't picked for her personal charm.
She's very telegenic.
I get that the media will say she's very hip.
I think that the pick was somewhat surprising.
I think everybody was expecting Biden to pick Kamala. Oh, man. Poor Republicans. They're so confused.
Kamala is like their version of that green needle brainstorm meme.
Honestly, it's kind of cute watching Republicans flail around, trying to figure out the right talking points.
You know, it's like when a litter of puppies is born, but they haven't opened their eyes yet.
And look, they better figure this shit out out, or else their attack ads are going to
be really unconvincing.
Joe Biden has picked Kamala Harris.
But who is Kamala Harris?
She hates the police.
Except for the times that she loves the police?
She's also soft on drug crime. But is too times that she loves the police? She's also soft on drug crime.
But is too tough on drug crime sometimes?
She's black.
But also Indian.
Is that even allowed?
Kamala Harris.
We haven't decided why she's bad yet, but we already paid for this hat.
I'm Donald Trump, and I'm confused by this message. We have to take a quick break. But when we come back, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to tell, we'll tell tell you, we'll tell you, we'll tell you, we'll tell tell tell you, to, tou, to to to to to to to to to to too to to to too to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to tou to too, tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell you tell you, tell you, tell you, tell you, tell you tell you tell you tell you tell you tell you tell you tell you tell you tell you, tell you, tell you, t already paid for this ad. I'm Donald Trump and I'm confused by this message.
We have to take a quick break, but when we come back,
we'll tell you everything you need to know about Kamala Harris.
The person, the politician, and the chef?
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podcasts. Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show. Let's talk about
the vice president, aka the world's most prestigious hype man. Now that
Kamala Harris is one step away from getting that job a lot of people are starting
to wonder who is Kamala Harris and how did she get where she is today?
Well let's find out in our ongoing political segment getting to know them.
Most of us are familiar with Kamala Harris, the senator and presidential candidate.
But you may be surprised to find out that, like many of us,
she started out as a child.
She's a daughter of immigrants, a father from Jamaica
and a mother from southern India,
both active in the civil rights era.
Harris was part of the second class
to integrate Berkeley, California public schools.
She did her undergrad,
which makes her the first historically black colleges and universities grad on a major ticket.
Harris is passionate about cooking.
In fact, people in the LA area may have heard Harris calling into cooking shows.
My entire childhood was pretty much spent in the kitchen.
As this roast, this is all going to just get pregnant.
Bring around the legs, tie that little bad boy up.
There's a chicken.
Yes, the daughter of immigrants, an HBCU graduate,
and on top of it all, a pretty damn good cook.
Which means if she wins, that's going to be a really big change for the kitchen at the VP residence.
I mean, Kamala will be in there making delicious Jamaican and Indian food.
Meanwhile, Mike Pence doesn't even have a spice cabinet because as he puts it,
spice is the anal sex of flavor. And just by the way, isn't it funny that every election the
Democrats are putting together the most diverse tickets that they can. Like what about a black
man who's half-Kenian? Or how about a woman who's black and Indian?
Meanwhile, the Republicans are over here like,
okay, look, I know we've got a white guy on the ticket.
But what if we could find a guy who's even whiter?
Pack your bags, Billy.
We're going to Indiana.
So, after graduating from Howard University,
Harris returned to California to get her law degree. Throughout the 19-90s, she she she she she she she th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, tho, th, th, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. the theeean, tha. tha. thauuuauauaugh, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, th get her law degree. Throughout the 1990s, she built a solid career as a prosecutor, and then in 2003, she made
her move into the public eye.
38-year-old Kamala Harris came out of nowhere, and as she did, she made history.
She's the first woman ever to be in San Francisco's district attorney, and she is
the first African-American woman in such a job ever in the state of California. Kamala Harris has has received to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to African American woman in such a job ever in the state of California. Kamala Harris has received praise for creating innovative programs to reduce crime and prevent
repeat offenders.
Harris is the first female, first African American, and the first Asian American attorney
general in California.
Newsweek calls her one of the most powerful women in America, and she proved it this month
when she successfully pushed through a first of its kind homeowner bill of rights.
Kamala Harris is already making history. She is called by some observers the
female Barack Obama. Okay can I just put in a request that we stop calling
every successful black politician the next Barack Obama or the female Barack Obama?
Everyone's got their Barack Obama, everyone's got
their own name, and everyone's got their own story.
I mean, like Kamala, basically in every job she had, she made history.
First black female DA in California, first female and first black attorney general in
California, first South Asian senator in all of America, which says a lot of great things
about her, and also says a lot of not so great things about society.
Because I mean, black women could have been doing these jobs the whole time.
You know, it's not like in 2011, black women suddenly got an upgrade that made them fit
for office.
Oh, hey, they released Black Woman 3.
Now, on the one hand, being California's district attorney 20 years ago is what made Kamala Harris' star.
But a lot has changed in that 20 years.
And some of the things she did at the time are a little less popular with many of today's
Democrats.
Kamala Harris is defending her record as a prosecutor that some activists see as being pro-law
enforcement at the expense of civil rights.
Progressive say Harris was not progressive enough, failing to seek. th. th. th. th. to th. th. to to their. to the expense of civil rights. Progressive say Harris was not progressive enough,
failing to seek justice for the wrongfully imprisoned.
Contributing as prosecutor to the mass incarceration of black men.
Criticized that a lot of communities
for not using the full power of her office
to investigate police shootings.
Critics are questioning some for policies, which they say worked against black families,
including a crackdown on parents whose children were truant.
So I sent a letter out on my letterhead to every parent in the school district.
This was a little controversial in San Francisco.
A friend of mine actually called me and he said,
Camla, my wife got the letter. She freaked out.
She brought all the kids into the living room, held up the letter, said,
if you don't go to school, Kamla's going to put you and me in jail.
Yes, we achieved an intended effect.
Ah, that's not a good look, threatening to send parents and their kids to their kids to jail for skipping school? I mean, I get that you wanted kids to get an education,
but there must have been better ways to keep them in class.
Like, why not just tell kids
that if they go to school every day,
they can get an education that will help them get a good job
so that they can advance in society?
You know, lie to them. What I really want to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their tea.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a. their the parents and kids go to jail together?
Like, would they share a jail cell?
They join the same gang?
Would they get matching tattoos?
Hello, Will Smith?
I've got another idea for a really dope TV s-ship.
Hello?
Now, to be fair,
since Harris was elected to the U. in 2016. Her views have moved closer to those of modern progressives.
She's called for overhauling the prison system,
introduced a bail reform bill, and tried to decriminalize weed.
But one of the things that has people most excited
about seeing Kamala Harris's VP is her long history
of grilling Republicans on live national television.
California's junior senator is notable both in biography and her two-year tenure in the
Senate.
Supporters hail Harris's rapid-fire questioning.
Senator Harris being possibly the best prosecutor the Senate has ever seen.
Can you think of any laws that give government the power to make decisions about
the male body?
I'm not a, I'm not a thinking of any right now senator. Has the
president or anyone at the White House ever asked or suggested that you open an
investigation of anyone? Um, I wouldn't, I wouldn't. Yes or no? Yes or no? Yes, or?
Senator, I'm very sensitive about time and I'd like to have a very lengthy
conversation and explain that all to you. I try to do that. Can you give me a yes or no answer, please? In the closed briefing, well, it's not a short answer,
Senator, the answer is it.
It is, either you are willing to do that or not.
So when they're instructed...
Excuse me, I'm asking the questions.
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When she's asking you questions,
you're gonna answer those questions.
I just hope she knows how to turn it off
when she's vice president.
You know, she doesn't want to be at a state funeral,
like, I am so sorry about your husband.
Where were you on the night he died?
So that's Kamala Harris, Haris, prosecutor, prosecutor, prosecutor, prosecutor, prosecutor, and now,. And who knows where she'll go from here?
I mean, at this rate, one day they might be calling Barack Obama the previous Kamala
Harris.
Wait, does that make sense?
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It's been said that Nice Skies Finish Last.
But is that really true?
I'm Tim Harford, host of the Cautionary Tales podcast,
and I'm exploring that very question.
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Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show. While most developed nations have gotten coronavirus under control, America has not. And part of the
reason is because the government refuses to implement the advice of doctors
and scientists. So recently, our very own Djibouki young white talked to one
scientist who's getting tired of being ignored. In the midst of a global pandemic
our country has spiraled into chaos. America now accounts for a quarter of the world's cases, hospitals are
overwhelmed, and our president has gone full email. I think I was very
unfairly traded. Nobody likes me. Luckily I know a guy with all the
answers that's also working on a vaccine and you know he's legit because I
mean look at him. When we last spoke in March Dr. Hotes was pretty optimistic. This will pass. The key right now is practicing that social
distancing. Never once dragging politics into this until now. We never had a
national strategy. We need a president engaged, we need a White House engaged.
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That's right.
He's back with a vengeance.
And apparently only has one outfit like Batman.
Doc Ho, I gotta say, I'm loving this new Dr. Hotez.
Yeah, I've sort of become a ninja Hotez here.
Now that we're seeing this incredible decimation of low-income neighborhoods,
Hispanic, African-American populations, Native American populations,
and on top of that, we're placing school teachers at risk, nurses at risk.
The government is unwilling to launch a federal response, and I won't have it.
Yes, that's my ninja. You're on TV. You're talking to these people.
There's going to be changes made left and right!
Well, you know, I do see some modest changes.
Baby Steps, like what?
Like what? What are the modest changes?
The president finally admitted that COVID-19 is a vicious illness?
So you're telling me that the modest changes are that our president,
after hundreds of thousands of deaths, finally recognizes
that a deadly disease is deadly.
Someone's fucking just cough in my face and just coven me up.
That's not really a good idea.
Well then you know what you gotta do, doctor.
Give me a little taste of that sweet little vaccine.
The good news is there's going to be multiple vaccines.
Yes.
I'm sure that you've heard the Russians have a vaccine now.
So what I worry about with the Russian vaccine
is I don't see how they did all those quality control,
quality assurance and safety steps
and get it out in such a rapid time frame.
That's the part that worries me.
You cannot keep taking the on these emotional roller coasters. Well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's that's that's that's that's that's the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the the the th. the the worries me. You cannot keep taking on these emotional roller coasters.
Well, there are several other vaccines that are showing promise,
and including the AstraZeneca Oxford vaccine.
That's giving pretty good immune response.
Say no more.
I'll take that.
I will take three boxes of the Oxycoffin, please.
Well, you didn't pronounce it quite right. It's AstraZeneca Oxford. Lossianica Foxford.
Astra Zeneca. Okay, okay, okay, Dr. Holt does whatever. Just give me your secret
stash of Ascot Zendaya Ostrich Farm, please. Well, you're going to have to wait a bit.
The vaccines won't be out till the middle of 2021. What kind of avatar movie bullshit are you
pulling? Stop pushing it back. Well, you know, we have have have to to to to to to th tha tha tha thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the the the thi, thia thiae, thia thia thia thia thia thia thia the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. the. the. tooooooooo. together. together try. together. together together. together. together. together. the. the. Well, you know, we have to show that these vaccines actually work and that they're safe.
And for that, we need big trials.
Up to 30,000 patients.
Till then, we need people to pay attention to HOTES.
The problem is, people don't listen to science and facts, but they do listen to people
who lose their shit.
Shut the F-. Shut off! Don't you ask why the?
No wire hangars ever!
Shut them!
Come!
You gotta get mad.
You gotta scare people to change.
You're giving me like friendly, like inconvenienced, coala teddy bear vibes.
We need you looking like Hulk.
We need you changing colors on screen. Uh. I don't know, man. It's
okay. Rollplay time. I ask you answer. Dr. Peter Holtes. Should we reopen schools? Certainly not in
areas where you have a lot of community transmission underway. It wouldn't be safe for teachers or for
bus drivers or for the staff
and for the parents. Okay, that was good. Like the information was there but
maybe try something like this. Are you fucking serious? Do you really think that
these little monsters are going to be able to not eat each other's bookers?
Five minutes into that classroom they're sticking their fingers and their ears,
and now everybody at the Chuck E. G. has COVID.
That is in the community, then it's in the entire country.
Then the whole world has COVID and the aliens are like, okay, now here's our chance.
Have you considered trying something like that?
That's a very provocative response and an approach.
I'm not sure it really works with my style, though.
You know I love your style.
I copied your glasses.
You're a style icon to me.
It's just that we have to give you a look that communicates code red.
You loosen the bow tie a little bit,
rustle the collar, rustle the hair,
and then also a little sprinkle of,
I'm back from the future to warn you about your fate
before it's too late.
Yes!
Get into the camera and tell the world what they need to do
to get rid of COVID.
And don't smile.
The whole nation needs to be in be in be in be in be in to be in to be in to be in to be in to be in to be in to be in to be in the the you smile. The whole nation needs to be in containment boat now.
Okay, well, uh, back to plan B. Give me some of that Osceola Vista box curd, please.
You gotta wait till 2021.
UKUKUKUK, you gotta wait till 2021. Until then. Wear a fucking mask people.
Thank you so much for that, Djibouki.
When we come back, I'll be talking to the host of United Shades of America, W. Kamal Bell.
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Earlier today, I spoke with W. Kamar Bell. He has an Emmy Award winning series on CNN called United Shades of America.
So here's my question. If I give you the magic reparations wand and you can wave it and make it all happen, what do you do? Who build my community more. Okay. I would love to have more mom and pop, you know.
I think about reparations as a future thing. It's almost like you want
reparations to actually repair the black communities back to where they were.
Where you know every black neighborhood had its own downtown section with black-owned businesses that serve the community.
Of course you can. Of course you can, brother.
W. Kamal Bell, welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show.
How are you, sir?
I'm doing good.
It's very convenient when I can do it in my house.
This is, I like this.
Is this, are you, are you used to this new life yet? Yeah, I mean, I'm very used to this. I can't, I'm very, I'm very, I'm very, I'm very, I'm very, I'm very, I'm very, I'm very, I'm very, I'm very, I'm very, I'm very, I'm very, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the the the the the the the the the the the the thi. thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. the thi. the thi. too. too, to, to, to, to, to, the to, the to, to, used to this. I can't imagine ever getting on the plane ever again.
I feel like once we get the vaccine,
I'm good doing everything in my garage.
You're just gonna stay the way you are.
You're just gonna be in your garage, living your life.
Yeah, I will Skype into interviews
for United Shades of America.
Like, yeah, what's life like there?
I've actually got a question for you. You will be honest with me because you're a comedian. I don't trust most people, but I trust comedians.
You have kids, you have very young kids.
Three kids now?
Three kids, yeah.
School is coming back soon.
Now, whenever I talk to people, there's obviously people who are like,
oh, no, I worry, my kids, I won't send them back to school.
And then there's people politically, kids. their their their their thk. their. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thr-I. Three. Three. three three. three. three. three. three. three. three. Three, three. Three, three. Three. Three. Three. Three. Three. Three. Three. Three. Three. Three. Three. Three. Three. Three. Three. Three. Three. Three. Three. Three. Three. Three. Three. Three. Three. Three. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thri. three. thi. thi. three. thi. thi. three, three, three, three three three three kids. three three three you'll tell the truth. Are you willing to risk them and send them back to school?
Be real with me, Kamal.
I'm not willing to sacrifice my kids or my health just so that I can have eight hours
away from them.
No, no. I mean, as much as school is daycare, a lot of it is just like getting your kids to to to to to to to to go kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids to go kids kids kids kids to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to to to to to to to to to to to to get, to get, to get, to get, to get, to get, to get, to get, to get, to get, to get, to get, to get, to get, to get, to get, to get, to get, to get, to get, to get, to get, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, to, their, to, their, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to get, to, someplace so you can go like this. Who, it's not that serious. And I don't know.
So are you, are you teaching them then?
I mean, I, I'm, they're learning some things.
They're learning about podcasting and they're learning about how to do, how to adjust light for
TV appearances.
We're learning some things. I feel like you, you've just made your kids, their their their their their their think, think, think, think, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th....... I, th. I, th. I, th. I's, t. I's, te. I's, te. I's, te. I's, te. I's, te. I's, te. I'm, their, their, their, ers. That's all you've done. You're just giving them like technical skills. That's like all the crew for your show is just going to be like
my child, my child, my child, my child, my child. Today, like Zoom calls work. Yeah. I mean, but also,
you know, I'm in a privileged place, my wife's in a privileged place where our kids are going to to learn because we are going to to teach wee. wee. their. their. their. their. their. to learn because we to learn because we are to learn, we are to learn, we are going to learn, we are going to to learn, to learn, to to to learn, to teach, to teach, to teach, to teach, to teach, to learn, to teach, to be to to to to to to to to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be like, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their child, their child, their child, their child, their child, their, their, their, todaach them and we have conversations in the house. Right, right, right. I'm a good parent, so I bought those summer books you get for kids where they can
like think they're not learning but they are learning.
So they're gonna learn.
I'm more worried about their like mental growth and how they're being affected by this.
Let's talk about the show.
United Shades. Your show is an Emmy-innyny-inny-inny-inny-inny-in, th-in, th-in, th-in, th-in, th-in, th-in, th-in, th-in, th-in, th-in, th-in, th-in, th-in, th-a-a-a-a-a-s, thi, th-s, th-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-s, think, thi, thi, thi, th-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th-a, th-a, th-a, th-a, th-a, th-a, th-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, th-s.. I's-s-s-s. I's-s. I'm-s. thoooooooo-s.. I's-s. I'm-s. I'ma-s. I'm thi-s It takes a different look at America, the issues that we think we know so well.
One of my favorite episodes was about the gig economy.
You know, we've become so addicted to the gig economy.
You know, we want our Uber, we want our postmates, we want our food delivered, we want
our things picked up, our garden.
But we don't know how it works and we don't the thap took a job in this world. You basically went to work for real in the gig economy.
Is it sustainable or is it like a very, like is it just above being like horrible labor?
Well, I think the advertisements say things like it's a way, it's a way to make extra money, so
you can make some extra cash.
Or for most people, it care of their family.
So they have to get a gig economy job to supplement that.
And the gig economy jobs, you don't have worker protections, you don't have benefits.
You know, if you're an Uber driver, you're bringing down the value of your car every time.
the Uber up and Uber economy. I think those of us who use it, it works for us, but if you're being used by it, it doesn't work for everybody.
Yeah, man, I think that's one of the things that,
not just myself, but so many other people love about your show
is that it's topics that we know well,
and then you tackle it from an angle, and you talk to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the to be the the to be to be tho tho tho tho tho thrown... thrown. tho tho tho thrown. thrown the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi thi......... tho tho tho tho tho... thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thr. thr. thro. throooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooe. th you're talking about farming in America. You spend a lot of time talking about racism. You love talking about racism.
I love it so much, baby.
I'd like to talk more about Bruce Lee, but apparently that's not what my job is.
So yeah.
You have an episode coming up that I think is really going to be fun or illuminating at least,
and it's about reparations. Yes. Now reparations seems like one of those topics that only has just, I mean there's two
possible forks in the road.
It is no reparations and you give the black people a lot of money and that's that.
Like, but you've gone out and you started talking to people and you met with
the descendants of slaves, you met with people who are pushing for different types of reparations.
Have you learned anything new that we don't know about in our normal discussions?
I mean, I think one thing's for sure, we have this idea that every black person wants reparations.
First of all, that's not true. Many black people are not for reparations.
But even amongst the black people who the problem is that when the subject of reparations comes up, mostly it gets shut down by people who are like, nope, nope, nope, nope, I'm a white person,
I can't even stomach even thinking about that. But in actuality, if we have the discussion,
a lot of black people think differently about reparations, but to quote Nicole Hannah Jones, if it doesn't come with cash, that's racist. It was interesting to me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me to me to me to to to to to to to to to thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I thi. thi. I'm thi. I'm a thi. I'm a thi. I'm, no, no, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, better schools in their neighborhood, to build better facilities, to build, and I was
like, you're just talking about like the government's job right now. It's
insane that like some black people are like, I want the government to give me
money so that I can just do what the government hasn't basically done.
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own their own businesses. They're like, we don't even, we're not looking for the future,
just take us back to the distant, to the recent past. Let me ask you this. You, um, you talked to some people who, and without your show, I don't th th th th th th th th th th thin I don't thin I don't thin I don't thin I don't thi I don't thi I don't thi. I don't thi. I don't thi. I don't thi. I don't th. I don't th. I don't thin. I don't the. I don't th. th. th. tho. tho. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. We're their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their their. their. th. the. We're the. We're to. We're not to to to toe. We're toe. We're not. We're not th. We're not th. We're not th. We're not th. th. th. the clan, used to be in the clan, very racist, very homophobic, very anything.
And I'm not going to lie, you seem to get along well with them as human beings.
Like you, you seem to, like, and you are very black, as the male, I mean, like, you know what
I'm saying?
It's not like you, you're a black person.
When I said down with the plane. You come in as a black man. They see you as a black man and then you guys seem to get off. I'm huge.
I'm huge.
I'm huge.
90, tall, 400 pounds.
So I wanted to know, have you maintained any type of friendship with these people post
the show or has it just like, are you just like, do you get to you as Kamal Bell as an individual and they're not now like cool with black people. Yeah, I mean certainly it's not, I always say it's not American History X where I do
laundry with them for an hour and then they come out and go, man, I shouldn't be a racist
anymore.
It's not quite that easy, if only it was, but I do think people go, oh, this is not what I expected. I see this guy differently. Like I did get some emails after I talked to the Klan, like they were sort of like excited for the show to come out. I don't encourage those
types of friendships. But I have stayed in touch with people and there are people that I see
like we did an episode about guns and the guy who sold me the gun, we may think differently on guns, but we like stayed in toun't the the the the the th and he th and he th and he th and he th and he th and he thea th and he thea thea thea th. th. th st stayed in th. th stayed thished thished thished thus. thus. thus. thin, thi thi. thi. thi. thi thi thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thin thin thin thin thin. thauuuuuu. thauu. I thaeeeeean. thauuuuuuuuuu. I thaeeeean. thauuuuu. I t in one day or one one conversation. The thing I understand about this whole racism discussion is that in the
whole ending of racism, it's a long struggle and it takes time. I don't know if you know anything
about that being from South Africa. No, no, no, we're all good over there. Okay. Do you think do you think that that's part of the solution? Do you th. Do th. Do th. Do th. Do th. Do th. Do th. Do th. Do th. Do you th. Do th. Do you th. Do you th. Do you th. Do you th. Do you th. Do you th. Do you thi. Do you thi. Do you thi. Do thi. Do you thi. Do you thi. Do thi. Do thi. Do thi. Do thi. Do thi. Do thi. Do thi. Do thi. Do th. Do th. Do th. Do th. Do th. Do th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the the the the theeee. the the the wa. the wa. the wa. the wa. the wa. the wa. the wa. the wa. the whole the whole the whole the whole's part of the solution, which I mean it's not feasible because I don't think there are enough black people to enact this, but do you think part of
the solution is having more conversations than we currently have in
society? Because right now we live in a binary society, especially online.
But do you think from your experience mean some of it can be helped by the conversation but if those people don't go into the voting
booth and vote based on what they learned in the conversation then it's just
a conversation. So I think sometimes we over prioritize the conversation like
me and that race has had a conversation that felt good but it's
actually like about how people evolve over time and I think that's the conversation part of that. I that I I I I I I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th I th I th I th I th I that that that that that that that that the that the the that the that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that's the conversation is a part of that. I know I've got to let you go. You've got to go back to teaching and being...
You're going to go back over there.
What's your...
If you have to make another season of your show now, what would you make the show about?
I mean, I think the every season we sort of feel like there's one theme that sort of is going through th season. And this past season, it really felt like American capitalism is not doing well by Americans.
And I feel like the pandemic has just proven that again.
And right now, I think the next season is going to be about how do we dismantle these systems.
I think if you talk about a boss the police or to fund the police, all those things. All those th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th things things things things things things things things things things things things things th tho tho thi thi the thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the thi. the pandemic, the pandemic, the pandemic, the pandemic, the pandemic, the pandemic, the the the the the the the the thi. And I thi. And I thi. And I thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. theea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea.'s broken. It's not individuals in the system so much. We have to take on the system.
So no big deal.
I'm just gonna take down the American system
of capitalism and government next season on United Shades.
Amen.
If you're getting emails from the clan,
anything is possible, my friend.
Stay safe out there.
Say hi to your family, and I hope to see you to see to see the the the the the the the the the the the, the the, thap, the the, the the, thap, thap, than, than, the the, the the, the the, tho, tho, to. to. too, too, too, the the the the the the to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the ta, ta, ta, ta, ta., a ta., a ta., a ta., a ta., a ta., a ta., ta., ta, the a the a ta, thank you. Thanks for being on. Well that's our show for tonight, but before we go, I wanted to remind you that there are a lot of groups out there right now
who are working to protect and advance voting rights for the elections in November. Now one
of these organizations is the Alliance for Youth Organizing, which is a national network
of local youth-led organizations mobilizing to get people to vote. Until tomorrow, stay safe out there, wash your hands.
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