The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Hasan Minhaj Tackles Fox News 2020 Election Fraud Claims | Rebel Wilson
Episode Date: March 1, 2023Hasan Minhaj tackles the latest news, including Rupert Murdoch confessing that Fox News lied about the 2020 election being stolen, Tucker Carlson admitting he was afraid to lose viewers, the White Hou...se wanting to remove TikTok from government issues devices, and the Supreme Court beginning the federal student loan hearings. Actor and producer Rebel Wilson shares how her personal journey with using dating apps inspired her to create the dating app “Fluid."See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Let's kick things off with Tick-Tock.
It's the app that taught me how to make spaghetti in a washing machine, but it also gave me
adult ADHD.
Look at my pen.
Isn't this cool? Focus. Focus. But if you work for the
government, your Tick-Tock days are numbered because the White House just announced that
federal agencies have 30 days to delete Tick-Tock from all government phones. Yeah,
that's right. President Joseph R. Boner killer thinks that China could spy on us,
but that's stupid,
because they use balloons now, Joseph.
And you know what, China also thinks that this ban is stupid.
A Chinese official is responding to this move this morning,
saying, quote,
Is the world's most powerful country,
the US needs to be more self-confident instead of being so afraid of an app loved by young people. Okay, China? Oh, what you trying to press me? Oh, you think America isn't self-confident?
We call our national champions world champions. You're saying? Listen, we call Dims on the moon.
That's our moon.
We invaded the wrong country and stayed there for 20 years.
You think I don't have the self-confidence to just mindlessly stare at my phone?
I'll do it right now, China.
I'll give my soul to this thing right now, China.
F.
F.D.
But seriously.
Do you want to know how I know that China is really playing us?
China doesn't use the same TikTok.
Chinese TikTok has a time limit for kids.
It's capped at 40 minutes because China is smart enough to follow the fourth rule
of the 10 crack commandments.
Never get high on your own supply. But let's move on.
Because Biden isn't just moving against Tick-Tock.
He's also trying to kill student debt.
And today, the Supreme Court heard arguments about whether canceling student debt was legal.
Now, you know this issue. There's basically two camps, right?
There's one group that says, let's go clear history on everybody's
student debt. Right? What do you think about that? Don't do that. Just to be clear, I'm
not paying your student loan debt. I'm Hussein-Has. I'm not Oprah, okay? But then there's
another group of Kirkland Signature Dad's going, hey, I had to work 30 hours a day to pay off my student debts.
I got f-bucked by life, and so should you, kids.
And dads, I hear you.
No one should be happy.
But I promise you, even if student debt gets canceled, life is going to curb stomp your kids anyway.
They're already f-ed.
They don't have health insurance. They're not going to be able to buy stomp your kids anyway. They're already f-ed. They don't have health insurance.
They're not going to be able to buy a house.
And at some point, they'll run out of clean water.
So don't worry, boomers, you'll get what you always wanted.
Vengeance on your own children.
Now, the big story that I want to talk about is all the drama and news media. Apparently, everyone at GMA is fucking the same guy.
But these days, the most scandalous place in TV news is Fox News.
Now you're probably thinking, Fox News, oh shit, they're still out here smashing in
these streets, calling women hags. Nope!
Those days are over. They're dealing with this.
Cumbersome, ugly hardware. These are voting machines made by Dominion who no
one had ever heard of until Fox put them at the center of a mass
conspiracy. Fox said Dominion stole the election with these R2-looking janitor cars.
And now, Dominion is suing Fox for 1.6 billion dollars and the election with these R2D2-looking janitor cars. And now, Dominion is suing Fox for $1.6 billion,
and the lawsuit is airing out Rupert Murdoch's dirty laundry.
There was breaking news tonight involving Fox News and owner,
Rupert Murdoch, acknowledging under oath that Fox News hosts
endorsed false election fraud claims.
It's a candid admission from Fox News boss Rupert Murdoch
about how his network handled Donald Trump's lie about the 2020 election.
Murdoch acknowledging, quote, some of our commentators were endorsing
false claims that the election was somehow stolen from former President Trump.
Explosive newly revealed testimony in the Dominion Voting Systems lawsuit.
Shocking new revelations, new bombshell admissions under oath.
Oh, is it a bombshell?
Is it shocking?
Is it explosive?
What?
Fox knew the election wasn't stolen, but they said it anyways?
That's not shocking.
If Brian Kilmede ever completed a wordle, that would be shocking.
Now, I'm not shocked.
But I will say, I am very entertained.
Because of this lawsuit, a bunch of Fox News hosts had to release their text messages.
And y'all know this. Yeah. No, no, no, you know this. There's LinkedIn you.
And then there's I message you.
That's the deep, dark, underbelly of who you really are.
And boy, oh boy, where these eye message is good.
New court filings show that in private, Fox hosts Tucker Carlson, Laura Ingram, and Sean
Hannity were brutally ridiculing the claims of election fraud and the people who were making them.
Top Fox hosts privately trashed the Trump legal team for lying.
As Tucker Carlson texted Laura Ingram, Sidney Powell is lying.
It's insane. Ingram responded, Sidney is a complete nut.
Tucker Carlson referred to Donald Trump as a demonic force.
The private mockery also targeted Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani.
Sean Hannity wrote Giuliani is acting like an insane person.
While Ingram remarked, such an idiot.
Oh my God.
Do you realize what this means?
These people are secretly sane. They also don't respect anyone they have on their show.
These guys are texting each other all day about how bullshit Fox News is.
Their group chat is basically MSNBC.
But out of everything we learned about Fox News,
there was one text that came out in Discovery that truly freaked me out.
It's when Tucker Carlson said Fox News had to be more supportive of Donald Trump's election
claims.
Tucker Carlson wrote his producer Alex Pfeiffer.
Do the executives understand how much credibility and trust we've lost with our audience?
We're playing with fire for real.
An alternative like Newsmax could be devastating to us.
Do you understand what he's saying here?
He's saying, if I don't say this bullshit,
my viewers will leave me.
This whole time, we thought Fox News was manipulating its viewers.
But it turns out the viewers were manipulating Fox News.
So, just think of it like this, okay?
Tucker Carlson is a moral vacuum.
A hole, if you will, who glorifies election deniers.
So, a glory hole.
And his viewers expect him to please them with his mouth.
And he's constantly terrified that they'll find a new, more satisfying Glory Holt.
And that's why Tucker Carlson will never stop sucking.
For more on these revealing texts, we turn to a man I'm known for years.
My good friend Michael Costa, my dude, Michael. Michael, what's happening, man?
So great to see you, Michael Costa.
Now, let's talk about this.
These text messages, they're devastating for Fox, right?
Oh, absolutely.
They're so embarrassing.
I mean, being caught texting with your coworkers, how humiliating, you know?
What kind of losers have friends at work?
I thought we were friends.
And that's what's especially embarrassing for these hosts is that they could have avoided
all this just by not giving their phones to the court.
The court won't know about your embarrassing texts if you don't give them your texts.
Duh. No, they don't give them your texts. Duh.
No, they didn't give them their text.
They were forced to turn them over with a subpoena.
What?
Yeah, yeah.
Michael, a court can force you to hand over your text messages.
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No, no, they're not.
You can get them through a legal process called, oh my God, let's focus.
Listen, let me ask you this.
Do you think this lawsuit will finally end the election fraud claims once and for all?
I guess it depends.
So, wait, so wait.
You're telling me that if somebody. If somebody, hypothetically, was running a slip and fall insurance scam with my grandma
and her roommate at the nursing home, a court could get those text messages?
Yeah, easily, Michael, that would be very incriminating too.
Okay, well, the blue bubbles, but not the green, right?
Because Beatrice, Beatrice is on Android and it's just too set in her ways to switch.
They can get every kind of bubble Michael.
Are you my fucking dad?
Let's focus on Fox News.
Listen.
Jesus Christ.
What's happening right now is an existential crisis.
Financial loss is one thing, but the integrity of journalism and news.
What are you doing? I'm just clearing some space off my phone.
I have a lot of texts. Deleting text is not going to work.
It's not going to help anything.
A court can still find them in the cloud.
Well, yeah, but not if it's password protected.
It's password protected.
Yeah, is your password one, one, one one.
Oh my God.
They're going to smother Beatrice. Do it with the pillow that says Bless This Mess.
Are you live texting a murder plan?
No, Hassan, I'm not stupid.
I'm emailing her.
It's a totally different app.
They can still do that.
It's the same thing.
Oh my God.
What do you do me?
I got.
Watch this. Good love nabbing me now, Fenerales, okay? Talk to my lawyer, Poland Spring.
Hey, would you mind calling me a Uber?
What's your dress?
Panama?
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So I want to talk to someone about how to break free from it all.
Even though I've made a career of standing in front of screens and flailing my arms,
I have a secret to tell all of you.
I hate technology.
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I decided to sit down with Marquez Brownlee, aka MKBHD, who's been heralded as the greatest
tech reviewer on planet Earth, bringing us endless videos of the newest high-tech piece of shit,
but could he convince me to join his techno-mania cult?
Marquez, you are like the Kim Kardashian up technology.
What you say moves product, and you do have a lot of junk in your trunk to review.
Has that been said? Or are you just submitting us?
That's a metaphor. Yeah, I'm proposing that.
I like that.
You have dedicated your life to reviewing technology.
Why? There's a quote you've probably heard.
Any sufficiently advanced technology
is indistinguishable for magic. If you have a certain expectation and the tech
actually gives you that output you expect. Yeah, like that, that working, I love
that. And when it doesn't work, what does it feel? Increably frustrating. Yeah, to
me it feels like an abomination to society. Yes, right? Yeah, here's my problem. My brain is melting right now because I have to juggle 100 apps just to communicate with eight people. When I was in college, there
were three ways to get a hold of me. Okay. Call me if you're confident. Text me if you're
shy. Email me if you're smart. Now, it's a hundred apps. I message, friends. I message, friends. Android. Aoint signal, pretentious college friends, WhatsApp,
annoying family members, Instagram DMs, horny randos, Twitter DMs, angry political randos,
e-vite, psychos, paperless posts, liberal psychos.
That's just messaging, Marquez.
Yeah, so you do have the option to not try any of the things you don't want.
Until I go to a restaurant, hey, they go, oh, th.
the things you don't want. Until I go to a restaurant you go, hey can I get a menu? Yeah. And they go, oh yeah, just scan the QR code. I go, no, no, no, I went
to this restaurant to avoid being on my phone and then they're like, oh you have
to also pay through your phone. In order to do that you have to create a username and to they-s. Do you see what what what what I what I what I what I I I I I I I I I I I thme what I th. th. th. thu what I thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu their to to to to to to to to to to to to their their to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their thr thr their thr thr. I thr. I thr. I thr. I thea. I thea. I thea. I toea. toea. toea. I toa tech and seeing real benefit before going too far but we got to try a
whole bunch of bad ideas before we find one or two cool things Huston might
like. Marquez wanted to prove to me that tech could be useful and user-friendly
by doing what he's known for, a product demo. Secretly I suspected it would turn into an episode of, this shit doesn't work.
These new tech enhanced products were a smart toothbrush,
smart hover shoes, and a smart printer.
And of course, all of these were supposed to be as easy as one, two, three.
All right, let's see.
Lean slowly forward to go backwards and step off to get off.
Okay.
Smart toothbrush.
It's got a ton of sensors and it might be able to shed some light on something you can
do better.
All right, let's be able to shed it is.
Sure.
Look at that.
A sticker reminding you how easy.
to plug it?
Yeah.
Right. Alright, back to the future. I can't believe there's no straps. Okay, so twist me. Yeah. Ah.
What do you open it?
Somewhere around.
There you go.
There's a tab.
You know, because the sticker says effortless.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Why is it going?
Why is it possessed?
Shit.
Now, I connect dentist to have even more info about me. Oh yeah.
Because I haven't been brushing the full happy birthday.
Oh sorry, it says, do not turn the power off until the initialization is complete.
This takes about six minutes.
So you're just going to sit here for six minutes.
Where do I apply? So if I apply, then.
Yeah. So we have to make an account. We do have to type a Wi-Fi password.
There's your keyboard.
So you kind of type, by the way, there's capital.
Marquez!
I have to switch between uppercase and lowercase.
And then the down?
You know relations with 10 because of something like that one.
Oh, I'll set up my own account.
You're going to use your full government name. I would buck, man. Idiot. I give it a password. And then you just straighten your feet?
How do you feel?
I feel like a baby giraffe.
Oh, I have to connect with the password again?
Yeah, you want a password again?
Yeah, can you sign it to me?
Unable to register user.
Please try it to try it.
the user. It's not your thing, it's my thing, bro. Please try it one more time, third time. This shit doesn't work.
Log and fail!
And where?
What is the print?
Yeah.
Ladies and gentlemen, let's have our final product, shall we?
I mean...
The shit doesn't work.
It doesn't work.
I felt like I had just proved to Marquez that his entire life was a lie.
But he had a slightly different perspective.
The goal of tech is really to just work every time and be as easy as possible.
So I would just say to have patience with the things that don't work yet,
because maybe they will soon.
But printers are just...
Printers are doomed.
So maybe the way to fix shitty modern technology is by becoming more patient and understanding
users.
Ah!
Why can't you work?
Yeah!
Here's it out. Open can.
Close you can.
Close.
This shit doesn't work.
Thank you, Marquez.
Thank you, Marquez.
All right, stay tuned.
Because when we come back, Rebel Wilson will be joining me on the show.
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She's here to talk about the new dating app she recently launched called Fluid.
Please welcome Rebel Wilson! Thank you. Thanks for coming. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks for coming.
Yes.
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Hi. America. They love you, Rebel. Hi guys.
You should do a guest host week. Oh, I don't know whether I could do what you do.
Sometimes I've done hosting gigs and they terrify me. Like, because I hosted the British Academy Awards, the Bafters, and it was terrifying. Um, is it because like British actors take themselves very seriously? Yeah, yeah, like I made a joke about a male actor and their tha' thii, and th.. th. th. thi, you thi, you thi, you thi, you thi, you thi, you thi, you thi, you thi, you thi, you thi, you thi, you thi, you thi, you thi, you should th. You th. You thi, you thi, you should th. You th. You th, you, you, you th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you th. th. th. th. You th. You th. You thi, you, you, you, you thi, you thi, you thi, you thi, you thi, you thi, you should, to, th. th. to, thi, th. thin, you should, th. th. th. th. th. thi, you should, you should, you should, you should, you should, you should, you should, you should, you should, you the Bafters and it was terrifying. Is it because like British actors take
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then his wife came up to me and he's like you know he's married right and I'm
like yeah I wasn't like trying to get with him or anything I was just yeah
so it's very hard to host well yeah I'm glad you're hosting thank you.
Thank you. Thank you. Speaking of getting with people, you got to speak of getting with people you
recently got engaged. Yes I did. Congratulations. You got engaged at Disneyland. Yes I got
engaged in Disneyland. Yes I got engaged in Disneyland the happiest proposal place on earth.
Yeah, so basically, like, it's not like I'm obsessed with Disneyland.
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Oh my god.
Like, every important holiday and every important life event.
So, I did actually get to sleep inside Disneyland for my 40th birthday.
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Did you know this on there's actually gangs at Disneyland? There are like these gangs of adults?
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they walk around and like do gang stuff inside Disneyland. Wait there's like an
initiation where you have to like stab Goofy or something? It was
actually one of the initiations was you had to steal the apple from the snow white ride and
The apple kept getting stolen so many times that they had to make it a hologram
Not a physical apple anymore, but don't ask me how I know about Disneyland gangs because I will not say
Yeah, it's not like you're wearing gang colors right now at all
No
But I will say I did get banned from Disneyland for 30 days because I took a photo in a
secret bathroom inside Disneyland, which is illegal at Disneyland, and I got officially banned
for 30 days, but they called me up and said, rebel, what 30 days do you not want to come
to Disneyland because you're away filming a movie or something and I said, oh, June would be fine. So it was pretty good. That's how I know you're thi th. I th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that thirty thirty thirty thirty thirty that that days do you not want to come to Disneyland? Because you're away filming a movie or something.
And I said, oh, June would be fine.
So it was pretty good.
That's how I know you're a celebrity.
Yeah.
Like, Disneyland has met Gala rules where there are like no photos here.
And then you break it.
And then they're like, look, we have to punish you. Google calendar. Yeah. What month works for you? Do you as a Disney adult do you
have beef with Quittitch adults because there's adults that play in Quittitch
Leagues? Yeah. Yeah. You're laughing at them? I mean I like Harry Potter as well.
You're like do you? Yeah, oh my god. Hot docks. No, I don't have beef with everyone. I'm just like
spreading love and you know.
That's... Yeah. You're something.
Can I ask you a question? Okay. I always wanted to...
I haven't done it yet. But I heard there is this like...
Disney Illuminati. It's called Club 33.
Yeah, I know about this. So... Because'm in it I'm in it okay. So what yeah
this is a private conversation yeah I mean it is yeah you're not supposed to say
you're in it not supposed to reveal other celebrities who are in it or other
members but yeah I am in it and we do secret cool shit together.
Like sometimes we go into Disney
out at 5 a.m. in the morning just run around. Do so. Yeah we do. Yeah. I have a
secret gathering this weekend in Palm Springs. Because Walt Disney used to go there to find inspiration.
I don't know if you're fucking me right now. I don't know what to go even on my level.
Sometimes I say things, it sounds like jokes, but it's totally real.
But it's totally real?
Yeah.
Okay.
I'll go on a Reddit deep dive and confirm it.
I want to talk have thought of this. And I was like, well, I thought of it, so trademarked that shit.
Yeah, it's called Fluid.
And basically, when I was, I was on a, I wasn't so lucky in love,
I was kind of like a late bloomer.
And when you joined a dating app, which I did this one called Raya, and you had to like, to label you to label, the label, the label, the to like, to label, the to label, to label, the, the, to, the, the, th... And, to, to, to, to, the, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, they, they, they, to, they, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the had to label yourself and then label what you were interested in. And to me I kind of like it felt really weird to like tick a box and say yes I'm that.
Yeah. And so I wanted to create a dating app where you don't have to like label yourself.
So it's love without labels and to me it's really important because I think sexuality is yeah
so much more nuanced and complex than just like labeling yourself and like your can of food or
something. And so I wish that fluid was an app that was available like five
years ago because that would have really helped me a lot. And I was I was pre-dating
apps. Okay so you'd never been on one? Never been. I'm MSDOS. I'm like Windows
95. Old school chivalry. My move was in college with my wife.
I basically just went to the registrar's office and then took all the classes she was
taking until she broke up with her boyfriend.
And yeah, yeah, I was laying back in the cut.
You have to, you have to respect how long I held my plank because I was pre-med for two years.
Okay? And I should not be pre-med. I should not. Just wait when you say plank, what do you mean?
Oh, okay. All right. Sorry, when you're like exercising, they're like, hold the plank.
Okay. Oh, yeah. Maybe that's just at Barry's boot camp that I got to. Yeah. But the question that I had was, you know, like, like, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the got to. Yeah. But the question that I had was, how do you initiate
conversation on an app. Yeah, because people are going to be going on fluid, they're
going to be matching and then they're like, ah, what do I do? What do I say? How do you, how do you start?
Yeah. Introduction. Just koala bag. Like you match with someone?
Send them a koala emogy.
It could mean multiple things.
I mean, maybe it particularly worked for me because I'm Australian.
Yeah.
But yeah.
I mean, it's interesting what some people just do like a wave emoji.
Like not even just a sentence, just an emote emoji. I was like, what are you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you the thing you th th th th th thing th th th thing thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi that like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, thi. Like, thi. Like, thi. Like, thi. Like, thi. Like, thi. Like, thi? Like, thi. Like, thi. Like, thi. Like, thi. Like, thi. Like, th. Like, thi. Like, thi. Like, thi. Like, you thi. Like, thi. Like, even just a sentence, just an emoji. I was like, what are you supposed to write back when someone does the hay?
I have no idea.
Yeah, I mean, it's hard.
The hang is kind of just like, do you take it as, is that too much?
Uh, no, like, what would be too much?
What would be too much?
What would be too much?
It's like, like, calling you, like, to, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the, the, th, like, like, th, th, th, like, like, th, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, dates at least I think. Yeah babe is a lot. Yeah
or like just saying what about we meet at Starbucks at 11 a.m. like you know
you know like what's wrong with that? Because you wouldn't walk up to somebody in a
bar. I love I would love a like a opening line you've got to have a
bit of banter. Okay so so what I recommend to people is yeah to do a little bit of banter and then get down to business to to to to to to to to to to to to to their when when when when when when when when when when when when when when when when when when when when when when when when when when when when when when when when their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. You're their. You're their. You're their. I'm. I'm. You're their. You're their. You're their. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You're the the the their the the to to th. I's to to the to th. I'm the the the to the then get down to business about when and where you're going to meet up in a public place for safety
always.
Right.
I did one experiment called The Year of Love in 2019 where I went out with everybody who
asked me out as an experiment.
So I got real good a good dating.
Oh, it should be. Yeah, I think. You just yes and did every, that's like, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, the, the, yes, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, th.... And, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, the, the, the, the I'm like, you just yes and it every, that's like the craziest improv clause.
Yeah, everybody, he said yes, unless they were in a federal prison.
Okay.
I went out with, that was the one caveat.
And like, and so I got, I did get really good at dating because I felt like in my
20s I was studying and working so I didn't, I didn't really, um, date much, I had no experience so I spent one year really focusing on dating and but yeah but I would just say banter it up and like yeah and then
set up a meeting in a public place okay safety can I can we can ask you about
that opening hey okay do you go capital H E Y
do you go this is a serious shouting that's shouting what yeah yeah if you capitalize it
what about like saying hey hey no No, no, no, no.
And then you could come off as aggressive. No, Rebel, all caps, capital H, capital E, capital
Y, exclamation point. That's, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, is it? But I would do lower, case. When you text, do you do, do you use punctuation, do you capital H-H-y-y-y, or do you do-h, you, you, the-h, the-h, the-h, the-h, the-h, the-h, the-h, the-h, the-in, the-in, the-in, the-h, the-in, the-h, the-h, the-h, and the-h, and the-in-in-in, and the-he, and the-he, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the- and the-in, and the-in, and the-in, and the-in, and, and, and, and, the-in, the-in, the-in, the-in, the-in, the-in, the-n, the-a-a-a-a-c, the-co-co-c. And, the-cough-cough-cough-c. And, th-c. th-c. th-c. th-a-cape-a-cape-a-a-a-hease-a-hease, th-c. And, the- You know what I realize? I would do lowercase. When you text, do you use punctuation, do you capital H-E-Y, or do you do all lowercase?
Are you like, hey?
I do punctuation.
Maybe it's because I'm a law school graduate.
Yeah, me too.
But I didn't know, I didn't know that's corny now.
Like now, it's all ironic. That's a sign of good education. Yeah. Okay, thank you. I like that.
I don't get bad about that.
Just some punctuation.
I wanted to ask you, what is an instant red flag for a dating profile?
Okay, there's some things.
A man holding a fish.
What?
Why?
Why? Wait, where, wait, he loves nature.
No, something weird about it.
Um, also, girl on a horse?
No.
Horse girls?
Okay.
What about Machu Picch?
What about Machu Picchu?
I have a lot of guy friends that are like, sunglasses, Machu Picchu? Oh, what is Machu Picch? It's like a... Oh, and they're near the pyramids or something.
It's kind of like, it's not the Pyramids, that's in Egypt, but it is, it is like a civilization built into a mountain, but they'll be like at the top of it and they're just like, I'm Mike, you know, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and, and it, and, and they're, and they're, and, and they're, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, they, they, they, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, and, and, and, and, and, like, they're saying they've climbed this and they might climb you. I think what they're...
Well, okay.
Is that...
Those could be hot.
That could be hot to stuff.
I think it was more like, I'm like, well traveled and I'm interesting.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, well you can read lots of things.
I mean, I definitely when I was on the apps I would look and try to to look to look to look to look to look to look to look to to to look to thought they were like cool. Really? Yeah, yeah. But sometimes you can never tell and some of them do have a criminal record.
How many criminals have you dated? A couple of my God. I do have the number of the
FBI. What? Because they volunteer to check people out for me. Yeah. Okay we're
putting, okay fluid the app here. Wait, what? Yeah, yeah
I don't know whether they do this for all actors, but they're like, oh, you know, if you ever want to background check somebody
You let us know their name and their number and so I did
Turns out that guy had an assault charge from Chicago. Oh, yeah, and then and then I said how bad is that because he And yeah, and then I said, how bad is that?
Because he was quite hot.
And then they go, I wouldn't let my daughter date him.
So I said, OK, and I ended it.
So the FBI has really helped me.
Okay.
I can't believe it.
I can't believe it.
I do love the FBI.
The peaks and valleys of that story is kind of like Machu Picch. I do love the Amphiopi.
The peaks and valleys of that story is kind of like Machu Picchu.
Okay.
Okay.
Obviously, you founded this amazing app.
And not many females in tech.
Yeah. So I was like, let me get in.
It's an amazing, yeah.
It's an amazing impact.
Um, how do you think this app would have changed your life five years ago?
I think it would have, I was someone who like I didn't, I was kind of dating guys but
I didn't think I was 100% straight.
But I just, I grew up in a very conservative Christian background and so I never quite explored
that area. Whereas the cool thing with fluid is like, you know, maybe a woman would have popped up and I would have been like, oh yeah, and there's no
judgments to like chat to someone on fluid and so you could, and you would have
just chatted to them and maybe I would have like got to know somebody quicker.
Yeah, so I kind of wish it was around earlier and that's why I wanted to to make it and put it be a free app that that that people that people that people that people that people that people that people that people that people that people that that that that that that th. to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be. to be a to be. to be. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to. to. to. the the to. the the the the the their. the their. their. the the the the the the the the try. the the the the the the tooooooooooooome. to too. to to make it and put it out there and have it be a free app that people could download. And hopefully it'll help lots of people find love.
And you could be like totally straight on it,
you could be gay, you could be like in any of the intersectional queerness
that's out there and find love on this.
And it actually just, it widens the dating pool. And sure, some people you won't be the you you they woomter they they they they woomter to be interested to be interested tot tot to be interested tot tot tot tot tot tot tot tot tot tot totally tot totally tot totally totally totally totally totally totally totally totally totally totally totally totally totally tot tot tot tot tot totally totally totally totally totally to be to be totly to be to be to be totly to be tot tot tot tot tot tot totally totally totally totally totally to be to be totally totally to to totally to to to to totally tooau., totally totally totally totally totally straight. totally to totally to t send you too many of those people, but they might show you a wild card. It's like when you're shopping for like a cheesecake,
and you might not know what flavor you want
until you see it in front of you.
Right.
And then, yeah, and then you see like,
and you're like, hiya.
That's amazing.
That's tasty.
Everyone, please be sure to check out the fluid dating app. Rebel Wilson, thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. This is really great. Okay, we're going to take a quick break, but we'll be
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