The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Hurricanes, Ghosts, and the Power of Teen Stories

Episode Date: October 9, 2024

Jordan Klepper unpacks Trump’s latest political spin. Michael Kosta interviews Marlene Bourne, a self-proclaimed ghost and the source of Fox News's voter fraud claims, to uncover her strange connect...ion to their $787.5 million settlement with Dominion Voting Systems. Bestselling author Jason Reynolds talks to Jordan about his new novel “Twenty-Four Seconds From Now...” and the importance of representing teens in literature.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Erin Moriarty of 48 Hours and of all the cases I've covered, this is the one that troubles me most. A bizarre and maddening tale involving an eyewitness account that doesn't quite make sense. A sister testifying against a brother. A lack of physical evidence. Crosley Green has lived more than half his life behind bars for a crime he says he didn't commit.
Starting point is 00:00:23 Listen to Murder in the Orange Grove, the troubled case against Crosley Green, wherever you get your podcasts. You're listening to Comedy Central. From the most trusted journalists at Comedy Central, it's America's only source for news. This is The Daily Show with your host, Jordan Klepper. What's up, Joe? I am Jordan Clember. I got to tell you, we got so much to talk about tonight. Politicians find a new tragedy to politicize. Hurricanes are now affecting people who don't exist,
Starting point is 00:01:12 and it turns out that Fox News might not have told the truth. Can you believe it? Let's get right into headlines. Let's start tonight with a little stroll down memory lane. Remember the early days of the COVID pandemic when tests had just been developed, but you couldn't find one to save your life? Well, now we know where they went.
Starting point is 00:01:41 There is reporting that former president Trump, the then sitting president at the time, had, quote, secretly sent Putin a bunch of Abbott point-of-care COVID test machines for his personal use as the virus spread rapidly through Russia. Here's how the phone call goes between Trump and Putin. Putin says, please don't tell anybody you sent these to me. Trump, I don't care. Fine.
Starting point is 00:02:06 Putin, no, no. I don't want you to tell anybody because people will get mad at you, not me. They don't care about you.'" Aww. If that phone call didn't just annex my heart. So, Trump was secretly giving sound medical advice to a foreign adversary while publicly convincing Americans
Starting point is 00:02:29 to poison themselves with bleach. I gotta say, most presidents would do that the other way around, but hey, you do you, Trump. Let's get to our top story tonight. The country is still dealing with the aftermath of Hurricane Helene, but now it looks like there's a sequel on the way that may pull a joker, aka cost a lot more and suck even harder. The breaking news, potentially one of the most
Starting point is 00:02:54 destructive storms on record. That's the new warning from the National Hurricane Center about Hurricane Milton headed for Florida's West Coast. It's a category 5, which is something that I've never heard, a category 5 actually coming on to land, but it looks like it's west coast. It's a category five, which is something that I've never heard a category five actually coming on to land, but it looks like it's going to. Wow! Donald, you never heard of a category five hurricane hitting land?
Starting point is 00:03:13 It's weird, because I remember one happening while you were president. What did you say after that happened? I'm not sure that I've ever even heard of a category 5. Yes, yes, yes. For all you people who think he's in mental decline, turns out he's been the same level of stupidity for years. He must do Sudoku.
Starting point is 00:03:37 Yes. One, one, one, one, one. I got it. I got it. Okay, but, yes, Hurricane Milton is bearing down on Florida, which is terrible, because we still haven't cleaned up the fallout from Helene. And not just the flooding and the debris, I'm talking about the torrent of misinformation
Starting point is 00:03:54 and bullshit that we're still wading through. Because if you've been getting your news from eternal Hurricane on the Spotless Mind over here, you might think that the victims of Hurricane Helene have been completely abandoned by the government. The White House is doing nothing. They've abandoned us. And you know, it's largely a Republican area. They haven't seen anybody from the federal government yet.
Starting point is 00:04:16 The federal government isn't there. Oh! Horrifying, if true. Comrade Kamala and Sleepy Joe's federal government has left Republican voters out to dry just because of their party affiliations. Now, these Republican governors of those states must be outraged. Virginia Governor Glenn Youngkin,
Starting point is 00:04:36 tell the world what horrors you've seen. I'm incredibly appreciative of the racket response and the cooperation from the federal team at FEMA. -♪ Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah how slow the federal government's response has been. The response was quick from the federal government. We have what we need. We got what we need. He offered that if there's other things we need, just to call him directly. Oh, okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:05:17 All right. Okay. Let me get this right. So every red state governor said Biden is competently helping them. It's clear what's happening here. Either Trump has been lying or every governor has been seduced by the sexual power of Joe Biden's slow, confused smile. That's a smile that says, I don't know where I am, but I know where I want to be.
Starting point is 00:05:53 But Trump isn't the only one spreading misinformation. Conservative media is spreading lies that FEMA is diverting resources to Ukraine, that Jews in the government are secretly sabotaging aid, and the biggest conspiracy of all, that the hurricane was deliberate. Republican Marjorie Taylor Greene posting on X, yes, they can control the weather. It's ridiculous for anyone to lie and say it cannot be done.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Aah! Whatever happened to the good old days when conservatives believed sensible things like hurricanes were creations of God, who was pissed off by gay marriage. You know, what happened? Did God go to a really nice gay wedding in Cabo and pass off hurricane duties to Chuck Schumer?
Starting point is 00:06:36 You know what? I was against this. But when I saw Bruce and Gary take those vows, wow. They had a live band, for Christ's sakes. That's class. These crazy conspiracy theories aren't harmless. They spread paranoia around a population that is already desperate. And we're starting to see the effect.
Starting point is 00:06:56 We talked to people who believed that there were federal officials who were seizing a town called Chimney Rock, North Carolina, that there was this conspiracy to seize the town and to bulldoze all the bodies and hide them, maybe to mine it for lithium. What? Laughter
Starting point is 00:07:14 Do you see what's happening? People are afraid those who are coming to help are actually coming to steal their lithium. Everyone, let's be clear, completely clear. The U.S. government doesn't destroy towns to steal their lithium. Everyone, let's be clear, completely clear. The U.S. government doesn't destroy towns to steal their resources. In the U.S., in the Middle East, sure.
Starting point is 00:07:33 All this misinformation distracts from the fact that there are real people in these disaster zones who need help. Like this heartbreaking photo of this little girl and her puppy. Beneath all these lies, her suffering is real. No, these photos claiming to show girls and puppies being rescued after Hurricane Helene are not real. They were made with AI.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Damn it! How can something so fake elicit such real tears? Of course, this hurricane is happening in 2024, which means on top of all the misinformation from our politicians, we also have to deal with the flood of fake AI bullshit. Like these pictures of little girls or this fake picture of Donald Trump
Starting point is 00:08:15 wading through the floodwaters. Now, this one is subtle, but you can tell this one is fake because it's a picture of Donald Trump helping people. Look at him. But you have to look close. You have to look close. For a lot of other pictures, we have to spend time learning how to spot A.I.
Starting point is 00:08:39 This is how we figured out this photo was A.I.-generated. You can count that there are six fingers on this hand, and there's also three nostrils in this guy's nose, which, obviously, is not a thing. Thank you, Big Tech, for improving our lives. We had to bulldoze 15 acres of the Amazon to make that extra nostril, but I think we can all agree it was worth it.
Starting point is 00:09:04 For more on the effects of all this misinformation, let's go live to North Carolina to interview a first responder who is part of the rescue efforts, Brad McDonald. Mr. McDonald. Mr. McDonald, I want to thank you for joining us. I got to say, you must be sick of all the fake images of six-fingered men swirling around out there.
Starting point is 00:09:25 I'll tell you what I'm sick of, Mr. Klepper. You people in the media who are saying, I'm not real. Oh, shit. Okay, wow. You really have six fingers? I sure do. This look artificially generated to you, fancy boy? I ought to give you a six-knuckle sandwich. All right.
Starting point is 00:09:46 I'm sorry, Mr. McDonald. I had no idea. Forgive me for asking, but do you have six fingers on both hands? Of course not. I'm not a freak. My other hand is a foot. Okay, all right. Of course. Clearly. This is enlightening for me. Frankly, I had no idea there actually was
Starting point is 00:10:04 a real six-fingered man in North Carolina. You think I'm the only one? There's actually six of us, all right? And together, we've rescued every dog in the county. But does anybody in the media ever thank us? No. They call us a bunch of A.I. fakes. If I ever see one of them news people, I swear I'm gonna put my hand foot up their ass.
Starting point is 00:10:23 All right, okay. okay, point taken. I guess we'll need to find other clues that a picture is AI, like a person having three nostrils. You mean three-nostril Pete? I mean, come on, there's no way he's real. Oh, tell that to his enormous Kleenex bill. I suppose you want to make fun of his beautiful three-nostril kids, too, putting down a man
Starting point is 00:10:45 who's already been through so much. You know, his son, his son has the biggest coke problem you've ever seen. Uh-oh. I'm sorry. I can't even imagine what that's like. Well, I'll explain. You see, it's like a regular coke problem, but with three nostrils. No, I... Yes, no.
Starting point is 00:11:05 Yes, no, I got it. I got it. I guess I didn't appreciate how difficult this is for you. How do you get through it? Well, I find strength in my personal relationship with Shrimp Jesus. Now, let me tell you about Shrimp Jesus. No, no, I'm good. Thank you, totally real North Carolina resident
Starting point is 00:11:24 Brad McDonald. Thank you. When we come back, we find out if Fox News lies. Don't go away. -♪ I'm Aaron Moriarty of 48 Hours. And of all the cases I've covered, this is the one that troubles me most. A bizarre and maddening tale involving an eyewitness account that doesn't quite make sense.
Starting point is 00:11:52 A sister testifying against a brother. A lack of physical evidence. Crosley Green has lived more than half his life behind bars for a crime he says he didn't commit. Listen to Murder in the Orange Grove, the troubled case against Crosley, early and ad-free with a 48-hours-plus subscription on Apple Podcasts. -♪ -♪
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Starting point is 00:12:19 We all know that our cable media networks are the best sources for trusted reporting, but sometimes they slip up. Michael Kosta has more. Last year, Fox News reached a nearly $800 million settlement with Dominion Voting Systems for falsely claiming that they rigged the 2020 election. We begin with some breaking news
Starting point is 00:12:39 and one of the most consequential media trials in decades. Dominion Voting Systems had alleged the right-wing network knowingly broadcast lies that its voting machines were used to steal the 2020 presidential election. Avoiding a trial that would have turned Fox News' biggest stars into star witnesses, the company will cut a $787.5 million check.
Starting point is 00:13:02 But what you might not realize is that Fox only reported those claims after one brave woman dared to send them an email. Surely an email like this must have come from a seasoned investigative journalist or deep state whistleblower. So who exactly was this incredible source? I kind of liken myself to that statue of the girl in front of the big bad bull of Wall Street. Meet Marlene Boren. Staring into the eyes of one of the most powerful, unknown people in American politics was thrilling and intimidating at the same time. I needed to know, how did she do it?
Starting point is 00:13:38 So I started doing research. I applied my research skills. You know, it's one thing to have a collection of dots. It's another thing to be able to connect them. Dots ice cream of the future know informational. So I had these dots together I just kind of threw together this email. But this wasn't your typical ordinary email oh no this email had life altering consequences.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Walk me through that fateful day November 7th around 5 o 7 Walk me through that fateful day, November 7th, around 5.07 p.m. The weather was crisp, the leaves were turning. I put together this email in about an hour, thought it over, hit send, and that was it. And that was it. Time to get to this infamous email that altered U.S. elections for generations. So you're probably already aware of voting irregularities in a number of states which have one common thread, Dominion voting systems.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Nancy Pelosi's longtime chief of staff is a key executive. Up to 3% of votes for Mr. Trump would automatically switch to Mr. Biden. That's what American Express charges merchants as a transaction fee. Marlene, I needed a visual aid to help me with this email, but what do you think about this?
Starting point is 00:14:45 It's way more complicated than that. Okay, if you didn't get all that, it clearly states that Diane Fine, 3% transaction fee, and then basically, the election was stolen. What do you say to people who say, Marlene, your email, it's a big conspiracy? So fine, I'm a conspiracy theorist. I also happen to be correct. So what started out as just an email led to this. The Dominion software. I know that there were voting irregularities.
Starting point is 00:15:16 Then this. There are substantial questions with Dominion. All the way up the swampy drainpipe to this. The Dominion machines move thousands of votes from my account to Biden's account. Causing people to believe the election was stolen. And again, because of one email, I needed to know which hungry reporter first followed up on this explosive news. No one. A text. No. They sent a messenger to your house. No. They contacted your lawyer and said, please have her identify the sources. No. A singing telegram. No. A hot a messenger to your house. No. They contacted your lawyer and said, please have her identify the sources.
Starting point is 00:15:46 No. A singing telegram. No. A hot air balloon. Not a. A carrier pigeon. Zilch. Nobody contacted you.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Crickets. Crickets contacted you? I heard nothing but crickets. Oh, I see, okay. Yet they were using your information to broadcast and share it with their viewers. Apparently so. You know, that's the respect that I crave.
Starting point is 00:16:04 I love that people just accept what you're saying as truth. So what would have been one of the biggest stories in U.S. political history wasn't even fact-checked. But I get it. There's no need to fact-check because Marlene is a reputable source that does her homework. What were your sources behind the conclusions you came about Dominion Voting System?
Starting point is 00:16:22 The wind told me that there were people who wanted to know, wanted to hear what I had to say. So I could have sent just your... Wait, I'm sorry. I was nodding, but I didn't really understand what you said. The wind told you? The wind told me. And the wind speaks English?
Starting point is 00:16:40 Yes. Okay. Look, everyone has their quirks. It's not always how you get the information, but rather the confidence in knowing the person who's delivering it is a legit source. I'm a ghost. I talk with other ghosts. Am I Hailey Jo Osmond in Sixth Sense right now?
Starting point is 00:16:56 Is this real? Well, if Fox knew this, there's no way they would have aired the content of this email. Quote, the wind tells me I'm aote, the wind tells me I'm a ghost. The wind tells me I'm a ghost. You would think that the contents of this letter would have sent it straight to the trash bin. But no, instead they took that garbage and read it out loud on air the very next day.
Starting point is 00:17:17 There has been a massive and coordinated effort to steal this election. Who knew all that was needed to take down Fox News was a ghost fluent in wind. You did it. Tucker Carlson's gone. Fox News had to pay $780 million. Yeah, Americans don't trust democracy as much anymore,
Starting point is 00:17:37 but you did it. Listen to the wind man. It will tell you things. It's simply having an awareness of your surroundings. Maybe I needed to be more open-minded like Marlene and pay attention to my surroundings, listen to the breaking wind instead of the breaking news. And it turns out it has a lot to say. And it's telling me the election of 2024 is going to be one hell of a shitshow. Thank you, Wendt. Thank you, Michael.
Starting point is 00:18:07 We come back. Author Jason Reynolds will be joining me on the show. Don't go away. I'm Erin Moriarty of 48 Hours, and of all the cases I've covered, this is the one that troubles me most. A bizarre and maddening tale involving an eyewitness account that doesn't quite make sense.
Starting point is 00:18:33 A sister testifying against a brother. A lack of physical evidence. Crosley Green has lived more than half his life behind bars for a crime he says he didn't commit. Listen to Murder in the Orange Grove, the troubled case against Carlsly Green, wherever you get your podcasts. best-selling author of 21 books for children and young adults. His latest book is called 24 Seconds From Now.
Starting point is 00:19:06 Please welcome Jason Reynolds. -♪ -♪ -♪ -♪ Jason, how are you, sir? I'm good. I'm good. Now, they tell me, they say this is your first YA romance novel, but you insist it is not a romance novel. It is a book about love. Listen, I'm nervous to say that it is a romance novel.
Starting point is 00:19:43 I'm nervous to say that it's not a romance novel because my buddies who work in romance are very particular about the craft that, you know, they're craft. Sure. What I will say is that there's romance here. There is romantic moments. But instead of thinking about it as a romance novel for me, I like to think of it as a love story
Starting point is 00:20:02 in which this young man is actually trying to figure out who he is in the midst of sort of these new feelings around his girlfriend. Oh. Yeah. But that just... That wouldn't fit on the cover, essentially. But that doesn't fit on the cover. It doesn't fit on the cover. So, I mean, this book looks at male sexuality.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Do you know which states it will be banned in? Uh... I'd rather not say so I don't have to give them any ideas. Let's hope that. Let's hope nobody. Let's hope nobody. But I'm sure it's gonna happen somewhere. I was talking to you a little bit backstage. Uh, when I read your book,
Starting point is 00:20:34 it brought back a lot of feelings. Yeah. It talks about somebody's first sexual encounter. Sure. And don't worry, I'm not gonna go into mine at all on television. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. Nobody wants that. Especially me. Especially you. Yes. Okay. Sure. And don't worry, I'm not going to go into mine at all on television. I appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:20:46 Nobody wants that. Especially me. Especially you. Yes. Okay. Thanks. Thanks. I mean, you could be a little kinder on that one there, Jason.
Starting point is 00:20:56 But I think we said right off the bat, it puts you there. It puts you at a mindset there. And it is something that I don't find myself revisiting or literature paying much attention to. Was that part of the interest of tackling something like this? Yeah, much like you, I haven't seen it either. And there's a question, right? That begs the question, why not?
Starting point is 00:21:17 Why don't we get to see young men navigating the most vulnerable moments of their lives? Why don't we get to see them insecure and nervous and trying to be, trying to activate the tender bits, right, trying to be okay with their bodies. These are all very normal things that you and me and many young men have gone through, but we never get to see it in any form of media,
Starting point is 00:21:40 let alone in literature. It's interesting, I think, when we talk to... let alone in literature. It's interesting, I mean, I would have killed for pornography in my pockets. I would have killed for it. I couldn't find it. I wasn't cool enough to know anybody who had it. Anyway, I didn't see pornography until I was 37. Just could never figure it out. But now, being a 13-year-old, that's a diff...
Starting point is 00:22:18 You're learning about sex in totally different ways. When you think about something like that, and you deal with that somewhat in this book, too, that your main character is 17 and a certain assumptions about the ways in which a first time goes how do you how do you balance telling an authentic story there with what you want to articulate to a young audience reading it yeah I mean it's tricky right I'm always very careful about coming into a story trying to teach any lessons yeah because I
Starting point is 00:22:44 think young people can smell that a mile away. My job is just to bear witness to the realities of their lives. And sometimes that reality makes me uncomfortable. But it's something that we still have to grapple with, like pornography. And so for me, instead of me just inserting pornography into the story, it's also about the people around him and how they sort of contextualize it for him, right? When I was a kid and I started to have the sex talk
Starting point is 00:23:08 with my mother, my mother was very aware that I had pornography. And my mother would say, hey, just so you know, I know you have those tapes. And I'm like, oh, no, please. And she's like, no, no, no, I know they're there. And so what I want you to know, and so what I want you to know is that
Starting point is 00:23:23 it's just like any other movie, those are just actors. And those, and the girls that you know are not those women, and you are not those men. And I'm like, what do you mean? And she's like, you know what I mean. Well, that's as you describe it in the book. That's essentially taken from your experience with your mother, right?
Starting point is 00:23:46 That almost sounds like a threat, too, like how we talk to countries with nuclear weapons. Like, I understand you have them, but I know more on my side as well. And the truth is, the consequences, though different from a macro level, could be just as devastating on a micro level. If we don't have these conversations, you could very well blow up your life on a macro level could be just as devastating on a micro level.
Starting point is 00:24:05 If you don't, if we don't have these conversations, you could very well blow up your life and the life of the person that you claim to care about. This person, right, it's just that simple. We have to pay attention, we have to communicate, we have to be kind, we have to be gentle and tender and compassionate. We have to acknowledge the person across from us
Starting point is 00:24:23 is not a piece of furniture, but is a human being. Mm-hmm. Whoo! Yeah! Applause Don't go nuclear your first time, is what you're saying. You can't anyway. You can't anyway. No.
Starting point is 00:24:37 You can prematurely explode. That is something that can't happen. Did you go to literature? Like, you know, my understanding is, I mean, that is something that can happen. Did you go to literature? Like, you know, my understanding is you were not a big novel reader when you were youth. Like, what hold do you think you're feeling right there? Did you use literature in a way that was reflective
Starting point is 00:24:57 of the experience you were having? Like, what are you trying to do within your writing to speak to this younger generation? I mean, I think if I'd have had this book as a kid, I would have read it. Yeah. Right, but this isn't the literature that was given to me when I was young.
Starting point is 00:25:09 I mean, you know, we're probably close to the same age. I mean, back then, you're being, I mean, look, we're coming up on the 100th anniversary of the great Gatsby. And even though I have a lot of respect for F. Scott Fitzgerald, as a kid growing up where I was growing up, at a time that I was growing up, that seemed like a faraway land.
Starting point is 00:25:25 The fancy parties and bow ties and black suits and all that. It's not my reality. I was, you know, jeans and Jordans. Right? And so I think with a book like this, we're able to say, like, your life as it exists today is a life that matters enough to be written about. Right? Because if you don't see it that way, you don't know it. You don't know it. I feel like that's a lesson I learned too late in life,
Starting point is 00:25:50 in many ways, that, like, literature and art, you have to use it. You have to use it. You don't just engage with it. You have to use it. And you can use it to be reflective of your life or to make your life better or to gain perspective. I'm curious, seeing yourself reflected at an early age is important. Now that you've grown older, do you seek out literature? What do you read now?
Starting point is 00:26:12 Are you looking for things that are reflective of your life or are you looking for experiences that are outside of it? It's different. It's different. And I work in this field too, so it's a little different in general. I mean, for me right now, I'm always looking for... I look at literature these days like I look at abstract art. I want to stand in front of it and see if it makes me feel something, whether I understand it or not.
Starting point is 00:26:32 And so a lot of the times I'm reading experimental works or things that I deem to be experimental, like Ali Smith's novels, or I've just been going over all these Mary Oliver poems to see if there's something there that resonates with me, something that bonds itself to my psyche, to my subconscious, something that I can walk around with and live with, language that can live in the body
Starting point is 00:26:55 so that it might change the way I move through the world. That might not always be, you know, a story about me. That might be a story about someone living across the world going through a very difficult time. But I can still sit with that and live with that. And because I can ingest it, I can use it to make myself a better person. I love that. I love that.
Starting point is 00:27:14 You've... You're... You're not only right, you also teach, and you've also spent a decent amount of time going to schools, interacting with the youth. As somebody who perhaps understands them or has a view into their experiences more than the average adult, do you have faith?
Starting point is 00:27:33 Are they gonna pull this one out? Are they gonna help this generation who's f***ing everything up? Yeah. Yes. You know, I know that we... Look, the Atlantic, there's an article that came out about how like college kids can't read books and that, there's all this stuff, we get all these tidbits about
Starting point is 00:27:50 all the things they're not doing right. But as someone who's around them all the time, I think they have the biggest hearts that we've seen in human history. I think they care about things very differently. I don't always know that they have the vocabulary just yet, but the vocabulary that they do have has already shifted the way we think about the world in which we live. We can look at sex and gender
Starting point is 00:28:13 and see how the young people have shifted the way that we talk about things in a way that we honor the identities of our fellow men and women and non-binary people, right? And so, like, that's coming from the youth, right? When we think about gun violence, right? That movement is being led by the youth. When we think about the Women's March some years back,
Starting point is 00:28:33 a lot of people there were very young, right, fighting this particular fight. And so I think that while we criticize them and while we worry, we have to remember that the people we're worrying about are just teenagers. And if we would give them a moment to grow up, give them time to mature, do our jobs, right, by creating a pathway in which they can walk
Starting point is 00:28:55 instead of just judging them, right? Let's say, hey, look, I'll point the light this way. I may not drive the boat for you because I believe you can drive it yourself, but I'll definitely show you the way to go. And if we do that, I think we'll all be okay. I may not drive the boat for you because I believe you can drive it yourself, but I'll definitely show you the way to go. And if we do that, I think we'll all be okay. I love that. I love that.
Starting point is 00:29:09 24-second clip now is available. Jason Reynolds. We're gonna take a quick break. We'll be right back after this. Thank you. -♪ -♪ -♪ -♪ We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back.
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Starting point is 00:30:32 ["Paramount Podcasts"] Paramount Podcasts. I'm Erin Moriarty of 48 Hours and of all the cases I've covered, this is the one that troubles me most. A bizarre and maddening tale involving an eyewitness account that doesn't quite make sense. A sister testifying against a brother. A lack of physical evidence.
Starting point is 00:30:55 Crosley Green has lived more than half his life behind bars for a crime he says he didn't commit. Listen to Murder in the Orange Grove, the troubled case against Crosley Green, wherever you get your podcasts.

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