The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Introducing Trump's Best Word Bracket | Jason Reynolds & Ibram X. Kendi

Episode Date: March 11, 2020

The coronavirus leads to widespread "social distancing" in the U.S., Trevor unveils Trump's Best Word Bracket, and Jason Reynolds and Ibram X. Kendi discuss "Stamped." Learn more about your ad-choice...s at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:34 March 10, 2020. From Comedy Central's World News headquarters in New York, this is the Daily Show with Trevor Noah, Ears Edition. Welcome to the game chair, everybody. Thank you so much to tuning in. Thank you for coming out. Thank you so much for coming out. You that was so good. Take a seat, let's do this everybody. I'm Trevor Noah. Our guest tonight have a new book on the history of racism,
Starting point is 00:01:13 Jason Reynolds and Ibrahim Ex-Kendez are joining us everybody. It's gonna be a really fun discussion. Also on ton tonight tonight tonight tonight tonight tonight tonight tonight tonight tonight tonight tonight ton tonight tod tonight tod tonight tod tod tod tod tod tod tod tod tod to today's to to be to today's to be today's today's to bea. to bea. to be to be to bea. to bea. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. to bea. to bea. to bea. to bea. to bea. to bea. to bea. to bea. to bea. to bea. too. too. tod, today. today. today. today's. today's today's today's today's today's today's today's today's today's today's today's tod dollars yesterday. We decide Trump's best words and the coronavirus is sharing your Uber pool. So let's catch up on today's headlines. Let's kick it off with the stock market. It's like a casino without the buffets. And for the last 24 hours, it's been on a wild ride. Breaking news tonight, market meltdown. As the coronavirus spread, stocks take a nose dive.
Starting point is 00:01:50 The Dow closing down more than 2,000 points. The market's worst day since the 2008 financial crisis. Wall Street's wild ride continued today. The Dow surged after President Trump talked about an economic stimulus plan. You see, stocks rallied in that final hour of trading, up 1,100 points and finished the day at 2518. Man, the stock market is crazy. Yesterday it crashes, then today it surges again.
Starting point is 00:02:14 Like, it's so extra right now. It's always weird to me how the stock market never seems to have any sense of history. Because it's like everything the way dogs thinks thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thinks thi thii thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks tooes to to to to to to to to to to to to to to mea. to me. to me. to me. to have any sense of history, all right? Because it's like everything that happens is happening forever, and then everything that's good is happening forever. It's almost like the way dogs think. That's who seems like they run a stock market, right? Because that's how dogs are. Whatever's happening, it's happening forever. When you leave, it's happening forever.
Starting point is 00:02:32 When you're going to to. Wait, you're going again. I'm gonna die Just breathe stock market But yes the stock market dropped 2,000 points yesterday wiping out 528 billion dollars Which I'll be honest. I never understand because like where did it go? What do you mean you lost 528 billion like? What is that? their? I'm like, you? I'm like, have you checked your other genes? That's where most of the money is? And a lot of people? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? the th? th? th? the th, th, the the the the the th, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their? their? Just, their? Just, their? Just, their? Just, their the the the the the the the the the stock, the stock? Just, the stock? Just, the stock? the stock? the stock? the stock? the stock? the the stock? the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the stock market, the stock market, the that? Every time they say that, I'm like, have you checked your other genes? That's where most of the money is. And a lot of people are afraid of the market these days. But I'm making money consistently on the stock market. I'll even share my tip with you guys. Forget investing in companies. What I do is I put all my money in green lines that go up. Yeah, I make a fortune no matter what. I also don't understand finance.
Starting point is 00:03:25 And I normally don't feel sorry for Wall Street, but with the coronavirus, I feel like they're going through a lot. Yeah. Because the one thing guys on Wall Street like to do when Wall Street is crashing is the one thing you're not allowed to do because of Corona. Put your hands on your face. Yeah. So they spent all day yesterday like, oh no my money, oh no Corona, oh no my money, oh no Corona, ah! Ah, no, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, yeah. All right, but let's move on to some international news, because while Corona is shaking up the stock market, Vladimir Putin is shaking up Russia's constitution. Russian President Vladimir Putin has suggested that he is not against a proposed amendment
Starting point is 00:04:06 to the constitutions that could keep him in power for many years. Vladimir Putin came to Parliament and said if the constitutional court says yes, then it should be possible for the current president, him to run again. And that means he could run for two more terms in office. That's 12 more years of Vladimir Putin. He could be in power until 2036. Yes, Vladimir Putin is trying to change the Constitution so that he can stay in power long after he's supposed to leave. And that is bad, but at least now America can see that there's nothing personal, because Russia even medals in its own elections.
Starting point is 00:04:43 And this is big news. Because you realize Putin is 67 years old now. So if he gets these additional terms, he'll only leave office when he's 83 years old, which is just young enough to run for president in America. I do feel bad for the Russian people who care about democracy, though, like especially Putin's supporters, you know, because what do they chant at his rallies? You don't even know what to chants, it's like four more years, four, he's like just four, eight more years, just eight, you tell us, you tell us. What's interesting about this story as well is that Putin is a dictator but it's interesting how he still goes through the Russian legislature and the courts to try and change and change and change and change and change and change and change and change and change and change and change and to to to change and to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their to their their their their their their... their their their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tho. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. toooooooooo. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. the Russian legislature and the courts to try and change it.
Starting point is 00:05:25 It's a reminder that constitutions are only as valuable as the people who safeguard them. I mean, like, that would only apply here if America ever got a president with a bunch of lackeys in Congress to let him fill the courts with whoever he wanted, then Americans would be in big trouble, but that's not real, right? Let's move on to some news coming out of Africa. Because climate change has been affecting weather patterns across the globe. Some people in the motherland are experiencing it more than most. It is a locus invasion of epic proportions, and it is swarming East Africa right now. So the United Nations says that these insects could decimate the region's food supply,
Starting point is 00:06:04 and it's concerned it could become a full-blown plague. For three months now, swarms of desert locusts have been eating their way through East Africa. Here in Kenyans like Kipia County people buying utensils to try and ward off an increasing menace to their livelihoods. All to know a veil, the locusts keep coming. A voracious appetite means these locusts eat the equivalent of their own body weight in a single day. Beans, maize, pasture for animals. Nothing stands a chance. Oh hell no. First Corona, now locusts? I hope we're not seeing a reboot of the Old Testament. Yeah, because then as first-born sons, we'll have to worry. Although Trump is probably going to be like, can we do second born this time?
Starting point is 00:06:48 Go with Jesus, Eric. He's a nice man. Go with him. Go with him. Go with him. And this is one of the things that's really sad about climate change. Although it's affecting everyone, the effects are felt in very different ways in developing nations. Because in a first world country, a lot of climate change is abstract. It's like, did you hear that Aspen might not have the best snow for skiing this year?
Starting point is 00:07:13 Whereas in Africa, it's like, can you hear anything besides the locusts? What? I can't hear you over the locusts! It's a lot harder to deny climate change when locucus are eating all of your food, the that's maybe the one thing that Americans need to do to get everyone on board. Just have the locusts come to America and start taking all the tables at Olive Garden. Yeah. Then you'll see Congress take action. I couldn't get anything. Yeah. And once they show up, locusts are crazy. They can decimate a field won't be the same in America though, because like food in Africa isn't modified. If locus try to do that with American food, they would eat at one place and they'd be like, uh, I need to sleep now. I can't, I can't fly anymore. All right, that's it for the headlines. Let's move on, top story.
Starting point is 00:07:55 The coronavirus. It's like impeachment, but for humanity. And today was yet another day, full of major developments in efforts to stop this global plague. So let's catch up on the latest in our ongoing segment. Is this how we die? As scientists fight every day to learn more and more about coronavirus, governments around the world are doing their best to contain the crisis. In Israel, anyone entering the country has to go into a 14-day quarantine. In India, they're sending coronavirus alerts to all 1 billion cell phones. And in Washington, D.C., President Trump has said, in order to prevent the spread of the disease, he'll stop shaking hands and go back to grabbing people by the pussy.
Starting point is 00:08:49 But while governments are doing what they can, as individuals, we've also been told that we, we ourselves can change our behavior to help stop the spread of the coronavirus. You know, for instance, wash your hands for 20 seconds, cough into your elbow and whatever you do, do not look into a mirror and say and say, and say, and say, and say, and say, and say, and say, and say, and say, and say, and say, to, to, to, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, their, the, the, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, and, the, the, and, the, the, the, the, and, and, the, the, the, and, the, and, the, and, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thii.e.e.e. toe. toe. toe. toe. their, their, their, their,, do not look into a mirror and say coronavirus three times. That's how it comes out. And now, the latest instruction is for everyone to get some space. We've come to embrace the term social distancing from the Centers for Disease Control, talking about leaving space in large event areas. That means avoiding group gatherings, plus crowded subways and buses.
Starting point is 00:09:26 Social distancing in action. Social distancing. Social distancing. Social distancing. The new coronavirus buzzphrase. Yes, the buzz phrase of the moment is social distancing, also known as, don't breathe on me, bitch. And this looks like it could be a pretty big
Starting point is 00:09:45 change for our society. Although it's also the perfect excuse if you've been wanting to break up with someone. Just be like, hey baby you know I love you but the World Health Organization they just they say we need some space. I actually wish social distancing was a thing when I was in middle school yeah because it would have made all the times I ate alone in the bathroom seem way more responsible. I'd be like, I'm not a loser, I'm social distancing. Now although it sounds fancy, all social distancing means is keeping people from congregating together in one place.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Sort of like the opposite of what you guys are doing right now. Yeah. You know, you don't so much. Yeah! Live a little! It's why you've been hearing about all kinds of events being canceled lately. Coachella postponed, South by Southwest, canceled. Even Bernie and Biden both canceled their rallies tonight, which actually didn't hurt Bernie Sanders at all, because his voice is so loud whether you come to the rally or not,
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Starting point is 00:11:06 are kicking kids out. Schools from coast to coast are closing this morning to clean the classrooms. Ohio State University just became the latest college to cancel in-person classes. Harvard now among the colleges and universities, telling students don't come back from spring break. Parents with children at Treadwell Middle and elementary schools are not playing around. And don't know about it want their child to be sick, and don't know about it want to take their virus to their house.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Many wipe their kids down and some even sprayed them with disinfectant spray as they took them home Monday. Yo. You know, the parents at this school are really serious. I think the mom's fighting with the virus, this dad is not taking chances. You see how much spray he used? His kid is never getting corona or a date to the prom. And that spraying technique will only work if you have one or two kids, but if you like those religious families on TLC, you have to invest in a crop duster, that's what you're going to need.. to to to to to to to to to to to need to to to need to to to to to to their. to to to their. their. their. their. their. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. I I I their. I I their. I I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I's their. I'm the. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm the. I'm thea. I'm thea. And, thea. And, thea. And, thea. And, thea. And, thea. And, thea. And, the. And, two kids. But if you're like those religious families on TLC, you have to invest in a crop duster.
Starting point is 00:12:06 That's what you're gonna need. But it's not just schools. More and more companies are telling their employees to work from home. The only issue is much of the American workforce can't afford to take that advice. As unease grows about job security, many workers are wondering if they get paid if they're forced to stay home because of coronavirus. U.S. federal law currently does not guarantee sick leave. Less than 60% of blue collar workers get paid
Starting point is 00:12:34 time off. We're talking about ride share drivers, cashiers and servers. So I work for Uber, left, grab hub, door dash DoorDash, Postmate, Amazon Flex. We don't have the luxury to stay home, even when we are sick, not just like from coronavirus, from any kind of infected disease. Okay, does that guy work for every app on our phones? Did you hear his list? So what? Like you get an Uber home, he's driving? Then you order dinner on Grabahub, he shows up with the food,
Starting point is 00:13:05 you open Tinder later for some action, he's like, me again! I wouldn't even be surprised if he's also your calculator app. He's just like, what's 250 divided by 7? He's like, okay, hold on to ever, let me think. Carry the one, we're moving that. But in all seriousness, right, sociali. an option for much of America's workforce. Because without paid leave, many people have to work, despite the danger. Which is insane when you think about it. Like, imagine if Godzilla was attacking a city, but delivery people still have to keep doing their jobs.
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Starting point is 00:14:04 The CDC recommends people over the age of 60 practice social distancing. There are few signs seniors are listening. At this softball game of the villages, outside Orlando, most of the players are in their 60s, 70s, even 80s. The only thing they say they've been told to cut back on is their post-game high-five. 72-year-old Rick Samford isn't th-in, th-in, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thiole, their post-game high five. 72-year-old Rick Samford isn't keen on any suggestion he changes lifestyle. Well, I'll be frank and say I think that's bogus and I think it's something that each individual
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Starting point is 00:15:06 ah! And you know folks, that's the problem with this generation. We've sacrificed so much for them, and all they care about is they're dancing and they're goofing around. And you know what, Grandpa Rick, if that's the way you want to play it, then we'll have no option but to get that spray dad and hose you geriatric delinquents down. Moving right back. Come on for you.
Starting point is 00:15:32 Come on for you. Come on, see. Come on. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible.
Starting point is 00:16:00 I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes, a second look, starting September 17th, wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back to the D.C.A.T. It's officially March, which means it's time to fill out your bracket for the big NCAA tournament. But what if you don't like watching basketball? Hmm? Maybe you think it hurts the ball every time they bounce it on the big NCAA tournament. But what if you don't like watching basketball? Maybe you think it hurts the ball every time they bounce it on the floor. Yes, you're a weirdo, but still,
Starting point is 00:16:32 we have just the tournament for you. I'd like to introduce the Daily Show's Trumps best word bracket. You see, you see, President Trump has the best words. And how do we know this? Because he told us. I know words, I had the best words. You know, I went to an Ivy League college. I know a lot of words.
Starting point is 00:16:51 I have like this incredible vocabulary. I guarantee I have a vocabulary better than all of them. Believe it or not, I watch my words very carefully. There are those that think I'm a very stable genius. Yeah, yeah. There you go. Trump may be bad at disease control, immigration, domestic policy, and literally everything else, but when it comes to words, he truly is the best. So for March, just for March, we're hosting a tournament to pick his best, best word. Because let me tell you, he's got a lot of them.
Starting point is 00:17:27 In 1870, President Eulicious S. Grant, President Franklin Delano, Roosevelt. He was awarded the Bronze Star and the combat infant trip and band, heart, lung, and liver transpans. You're going to see some statistics coming out by an anonymous, really an enonymous. You know we just said another stock market, you saw that right? The stock market. I hope they now go and take a look at the oranges, the oranges of the investigations, the beginnings.
Starting point is 00:18:02 Expectations in the house for the midtown and midterm year. And God bless the beginnings. Expectations in the House for the Midtown and Midturn year. And God bless the United States. Thank you very much. Yeah. I don't know about you guys, but I've I've never heard better words. That clip makes me proud to live in the United Shesh. And I know a
Starting point is 00:18:26 lot of what happened they had the haters going, oh does Trump have dentures, was his mouth dry, did Russia attack his tongue? No. Trump just came up with a better word for the country and he used it. Because our president has the best words. And thank God he does. You see with so much uncertainty in the world the volatility of the schlock rocket all the negative climate statistics and so many Americans waiting for organ trans pants it's comforting to know that we have a president who comes from a higher place unlike the rest of us who come from humble oranges and I could play I could play clips of Trump all day saying trumpy words,
Starting point is 00:19:10 but I'm not going to do that. Okay, I am going to do that. Declaring the whole state to be a stanchoer for criminal. We have all applicable state taxes. Made a pivotal, really, and I mean this was pivotal. A lot of work has been done, a lot of renovation, if you look at some of it. The shield and shelter, criminal, look, look, look, there. Harrowing alone, if you look at the heroin epidemic.
Starting point is 00:19:37 Venezuela's, by Venezuela's, so. Venezuela's. As Hurricane Irmer approaches, in April of 2014, these historic complement shades working to improve this country and your government. And then they announced there was snow by snow. See that? Trump is so great at words.
Starting point is 00:20:02 He doesn't even need to open his mouth to say that And by the way, I want to take a second to congratulate our graphics department for fitting that word on the screen Yeah Fairly powerful well done guys Three three of our designers died in the attempt but it was worth it and of course who can forget the devastation of hurricane urmer So many herms were destroyed. Sorry guys. I didn'tthe devastation of Hurricane Irmer? So many Herms were destroyed. Sorry guys, I didn't mean to be a Burmer. So what is Trump's best word?
Starting point is 00:20:32 Well, there are 64 for you to choose from. And we've put them together in a bracket. All you can do is pick the best noun, adjective, or whatever you like. Just go to Daily Show Bracket.com. And there, you can you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you can thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, you can thi, you can thi, you can thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thiolk, thoomk, thoomk, thoom. thoom. thoom. thoom. thoom. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to to to to to to to to to to to to to tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. tho. whatever you like. Just go to daily show bracket.com, and there you can watch every video of the clips and every word. And you let us know which ones you think are the best. Round one is open now, so please go and start picking. Because Donald Trump has done many great things, but the words he gives us will live on as his most important, a compliment change.
Starting point is 00:21:02 We'll be right back. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. You're rolling. But that's all about to change. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. But that's all about to change.
Starting point is 00:21:29 Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes, a second look, starting September 17th, wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back to the Davis show. My guest tonight are critically acclaimed best-selling authors whose new book is called Stamped, Racism, Anti-Racism, and You. Please welcome Jason Reynolds and Ibr to the Daily Show. Thank you, thank you. Great to see you again, but let's jump into this book, which a lot of people would think,
Starting point is 00:22:10 would see the cover and go like, why would I read this, racism, anti-racism, thank you, and you. Thaugh, thi to see you again, but let's jump into this book, which a lot of people would th would see the cover and go like why would I read this racism anti-racism and you the first thing you say is this is not a history book what does that mean? Look I chose to start the book that way because this book is geared toward younger people and younger people don't like to read history books right and so you start off thi thi tho thoe tho' tho tho tho tho tho tho tho-n't tho-n't tho-n't tho-n't thi thi thi thi thr-n't thr-n't thr-n'n'n'n'n'n'n' thr-n' tho-m-n'n'n' tho-m-m-m-m-m-m-n' tho-n' tho-n't tho-n't tho-n't tho-n't tho-n't thr-n't thr-n' thr-n' thr-n' the the the the the the the the the the the other part of it, the other part of it though is that we talk about history as if it's in a bubble but the truth is that history is perennial. It runs through our lives, our lives every single day and it's more about it being a present book that history of a today. That's really interesting because that has been fascinating reading thi th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is thi, is thi, is, is, is the they, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, they, they, they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they, they, they, you read books that tell you about the history of America,
Starting point is 00:23:05 you read books that only focus on racism today, or maybe even Jim Crowe, but this book really just takes you through everything, in a way that seems like it's palatable. Has it been designed in such a way that you can just read it and understand without feeling too much? readers? I mean racism is historical and what that means is it's rooted in the past but you can constantly see it operating in your daily life and you can constantly see how it's going to operate tomorrow and that's what we wanted to sort of show for young people that this history book is in the present. It's operating in the future so they can understand
Starting point is 00:23:39 their everyday lives. When you wrote the book, you know, the two of you came together, Jason and Abram and you worked on this, telling this story of racism, and you have such short chapters in the book, which is really interesting. It doesn't follow the formats of a normal book. Sometimes a chapter is 10 pages, sometimes it's longer. You know, sometimes the way you write on a to break the mind and how it's consuming information when you created the book? For sure. But I'm also trying to make sure that we're working with the realities of young folks, which is an over-stimulated world, right? I can't compete with cell phones,
Starting point is 00:24:16 video games, YouTube, Fortnite and all these things that they have going on with their lives every single day. My job isn't to compete, though. That's a silly and futile argument. My job is to work with those things by creating multiple stimuli within the pages of a book. Why? That's brilliant. I think you, without even realizing it, you might have, you might have hit on another opportunity. You just add like an expansion onto Fortnite that just teaches you about racism. So, that that that that that that that that that that that that's, that's, th, th, th, th, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, that, that, that, that, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, have thi, have thi, have thi, have thi, thi, they they're thi, they're thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii., thiii. thi.. So you have like skins from the past and then kids can learn.
Starting point is 00:24:45 There's like challenges. Don't give too much away. That's next up. Ibriam, young people are going to read this book. And some of them may feel deflated. They may go like, man, racism was so bad back then, so bad during slavery, so bad today. How can I maintain hope in this world, you know, whether as a black kid, or whether as a kid who's not black and going like
Starting point is 00:25:10 I'm an ally, I want this world to be a better place. So that's why we didn't just want to write a history about racism. We wanted to write a history about anti-racism. its origins. And people are fighting against it today, and they can be a part of that fight. And here is essentially how people have done it in the past, here how they've been affected, and here's how you can be effective today. When you look through the stories, when you dig into the history of racism, does it have, the way we understand racism today, does it have a definitive start date, is it, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, is, is, is, is, is, is the the the the theyyyyyyy, is it, is it, is it, is, is, is, is it, is it, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is the.a.a.a.s.s.s.s.s.s.s.s.s.s.a.a.a.a.a.a.a. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th understand racism today, does it have a definitive start date? Is there a moment in time or is it just an evolution of people hating each other because they're not the same? So there is a start date, the transatlantic slave trade. You know, that's when you had all these different ethnic groups in Africa
Starting point is 00:25:56 that were imagined as one people, one inferior people that was worthy of enslavement. And simultaneously the racist policies thia, thia, thia, thiiiiiolism, th. th. th. thuic, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the racist, thi, thi, the racist, thi, thi, thi, the thi, the the the the thi, the the their, their, their, their, their, their, the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi, thi, thi, the, the, the, the, the, theateat, theat, theat, theat, theat, thea.a.a. And, their, isa, is just, is their, is their, is their, is the racist policies that undergirded the transatlantic slave trade. And we talk about these original racist in the text. And young people are like, whoa, there was like original first racist I had never knew. And you know, that's one of the fascinating things I think about this text. One thing you do really well in the book, in my opinion, is you break it down so that people can see what is oftentimes underlying racism or a racism that some people may not even realize that they have been indoctrinated into. You know, you talk about the Southern strategy.
Starting point is 00:26:35 You talk about how Nixon and many Republicans realized that they couldn't just say thinne. They couldn't call black people the n-wordsly, they had to say ghettos and they had to say thugs and those, the code words and language that was used. When breaking that down for kids, do you think that will help them understand some of those implications that are still in place today? I do. I do think that breaking it down, the intention of this book is to create new code, right, anti-racist is a new code, right, for a person who's really fighting for true equity,
Starting point is 00:27:12 for true love, right? And I think that's our real task. People talk about indoctrination all the time, this idea that like, oh, I don't, I, I, oh, oh, oh, I, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, I, oh, oh, oh, I, oh, I, oh, oh, oh, I, I, oh, I, oh, oh, I, oh, I, this, this, this, this, this, this, thi, thi, thi, thi, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for.............. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thination, well, isn't everything. So what if we were able to create new indoctrination for equity and justice? Wow. That's powerful. I loved it. I've never read about history like this. I've never read it.
Starting point is 00:27:33 I've never read about this. I've never read about the now like this, and it really breaks. that the that thi's that's that that's that's that's that's that's that's thi's th of all races will enjoy. Thank you so much for being on the show. I hope everybody reads it. It should be in every school. I'll tell you that much. Thank you so much for being on the show. Step is available now. You really want to go to get it. Jason Reynolds and Abram-X-10tho,
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