The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Jon Stewart on LA Wildfire Blame Game, Canada Not Into Statehood

Episode Date: January 14, 2025

Jon Stewart examines how Trump's finger-pointing, and the GOP's threats to withhold disaster relief for the LA wildfires are missing the bigger picture: nature is f**ked, and helping those in pain shouldn't be a political issue. Mark Carney, Canadian economist and former Governor of the Bank of Canada and Bank of England, chats about his country’s response to Donald Trump’s desire to annex Canada: “It’s not going to happen.” They also discuss the impending financial crisis Canada faces if Trump follows through on his tariff threats and how the country’s upcoming election mirrors the 2024 U.S. presidential race. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We're not sure yet. But of course, all news pales in comparison to what is occurring right now in the state of California. A horrifying inferno whose danger even now has not passed. But even amongst the tragedy and sadness, there have been incredible moments of human compassion and kindness. Neighbors looking after neighbors, charitable contributions pouring into GoFundMe

from all areas of the world, mainly the tireless and heroic actions of firefighters in the California region, some of them prisoners fighting with incredible bravery and tenacity. Rescue workers from all over the country. Rescue workers from outside the country. Rescue workers from Mexico! Mexico! Damn you're open borders, Biden!

I guess they are sending us their best. You want to know how bad it is in California right now? Here's how bad it is. President Volodymyr Zelensky has offered to send 150 Ukrainian first responders to help battle the massive wildfires. We're so f***ed that a country that has been relentlessly bombed for almost three years was like, you poor bastards. But it is a testament to the resilience of the human spirit, of man's ability across cultural and political and religious lines in times of crisis

to appeal to our better angels. As Archbishop Desmond Tutu once said, we are made for goodness and love and compassion, or, as our own president-elect put it... Trump shared a meme on truth social of fires raging behind the Hollywood sign, which was Photoshopped to read, Trump was right.

Appropriate. Thank you, Mr. President. I'd almost forgotten your penchant for casual cruelty and dickfoolery. Flames! Nice touch on the graphics. Surely you won't be content with just trolling those in dire need. Surely you also see this as a merch-portunity.

The New York Post posted these images of President-elect Donald Trump driving a golf cart wearing a Trump-was-right-about-everything hat. Trump was right about almost everything. I wouldn't say he was right about the outfit choice. Rule of thumb. Never dress in the same color scheme as the upholstery of your own vehicle. Unless, wait, perhaps Trump has reached his highest form, part man, part golf cart. And apparently, all cholesterol.

I guess RFK Jr. stat, okay. But Trump is going to troll. The problem now is Republicans appear to want to attach their I told you so's as a condition of funding California's disaster relief. I expect that there will be strings attached to money that is ultimately approved. I think there should probably be conditions on that date. That's my personal view. Before we put funds into place, we've got to find out exactly how we're going

to hold these leaders accountable and what sort of policy changes are required. There can't be a blank check on this. They don't deserve anything to be honest with you unless they show us they're going to make some changes. What the f*** is wrong with you? Really, Senator? From Alabama? The state near the bottom in math, reading and test scores. Next time you get hit by a fucking hurricane, why don't we have a little parent-teacher conference to see that if you got your scores up,

you would get the money. Or actually, let's not do it, because you'll get the money anyway, because we're not fucking psychos. That is psychotic. There's something wrong with you. And you know what? And here's the thing. I can do the Daily Show back and run down all the congresspeople and senators

on the right calling for conditions on disaster aid that absolutely had the opposite view when it was their state on the line. We need to do everything we can. We have citizens that are literally going to get worse by the day. Shut the f*** up. Because... I can do it, but it doesn't even matter. I'm not even going to do it.

Because red states are always the tragic victims of circumstance outside of their control. And Democrats always vote for their aid. Whereas blue state disasters are a function of their flawed morality and policy. And if we help blue state survivors, well, what message will that send? What lesson will they learn? are a function of their flawed morality and policy. And if we help blue state survivors, well, what message will that send?

What lesson will they learn? But fine, if strings must be attached, what be the strings? The problem with California is forestry management. Oh, yeah, that's true. I didn't... It's true. The management of the forest. You have to rake the leaves. And... I didn't... It's true. The management of the forest. You have to rake the leaves and... Shut down the illegal elf tree cookie factory.

It's a... I understand. And what a great, utterly anodyne suggestion. I mean, what forest couldn't be managed better? I mean, if you've been to a forest lately... Chaos. It's chaos. In the dirt and leaves and... And what is that? Bear shit, I'm sure.

I want to see the manager. Okay, so we get the money. If we have better forest management, everybody then gets food and clothes. What else? They've not done the necessary work to make sure there's fresh water flowing into key areas. Oh, water. Yeah, no question. No question. Water for the fire. to make sure there's fresh water flowing into key areas. Oh, water.

Mm, yeah, no question. No question. Water for the fire. Mm, no. Ah, I'm gonna get that message to the firefighters. Toot sweet. Yeah. Water is so important. Water is a terrific firework.

I don't even want to say the R word. But I... But as I always say what do you got there mister a fire nothing like water water works on all kinds of fire except for one kind of fire but I don't know which one that is but odds are with you point taken but forest management and and get some water up here and then your children may have blankets. These are all great pointers on how to mitigate fires and I'm sure California has absolutely

been trying. Water and forest management, maybe not good enough but they have it. There's one thing you might not be considering as you criticize them and that's this. I don't know what kind of a system you can develop that completely mitigates the risk of fire plus drought conditions plus 60 to 80 mile per hour winds plus delicious wood. Look at this. Look what's happening right there.

Do you see this? Fire, f**k the tornado. Rake your way out of that! You understand? I love the blame game. I love the blame game. I play it all the time. But the fires aren't out. And the fire f***ed a tornado!

The only thing that would stop that is the absence of oxygen, which if I'm being honest, we could do. Hear me out. There's something called a cloche. A cloche is a covering. You've probably seen it in pie shops. You can put a cloche. Now, if I just very quickly, guys, that's the continental size cloche that we had on

a previous program suggested for immigration reform. We need a little more casual guess. Can you check on the sideboard behind the gravy frigates? It's not if it's not there, it's under the sink. The California that's it the California close airtight. The best way to smother. The California cloche. Airtight. It's the best way to smother a Los Angeles-sized fire. And if you live in New Jersey, keep a pie fresh in a diner for eight to nine years.

The cloche. I am going to make cloche happen. Years from now. And then I'm gonna get a hat that says, Don Stewart was right about everything. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, look. Hey. All you idiots are dead. Told you so. But these people don't actually care.

They're not actually trying to find a solution. They're just trying to find a solution. They're just trying to find a solution. They're just trying to find a solution. They're just trying to find a solution. They're just trying to find a solution. They're just trying to find a solution. They're just trying to find a solution.

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into this tragic situation. It's confusing, but thankfully some people are being more explicit in their conspiracy theories. On X, representative Marjorie Taylor Greene asked, why don't they use geoengineering, like cloud seeding, to bring rain down on the wildfires in California? They know how to do it.

Who is they, Margaret? Are you perhaps referring to the they-ish people? Is that what it is, Margaret? The very same people that control the area on fire? Why would we, they, destroy the very industry we, they, control? When we also have the means to bring the rain, we have space lasers and we can bring rain. The clues are there, Margaret. Alex knows.

Alex Jones wrote that Los Angeles fires are part of a larger globalist plot to wage economic warfare and deindustrialize the United States before triggering total collapse. Oh. All right, well, it's Alex Jones. He is certainly known for this type of thinking. I don't believe anyone is going to be taken in by this type of post. Elon Musk responded to that post by writing true.

Now I feel sad. But unfortunately a lot of the information that's out there is not correct and because of poor forest management, that information just jumps, igniting into larger and larger nonsense infernos that coincidentally seem to reinforce whatever grudge any of these folks have against California, especially their ideology. When you hear stories about the state of Oregon sending 60 fire trucks, I haven't confirmed that myself yet, but they had to go to Sacramento to get admissions testing get to la where they're needed. I mean this is woke on you know the woke on

wild kind of stuff. Oh woke on wild. I remember those VHS tapes. Reading the autobiography of Malcolm X and putting on more clothes. Reading the autobiography of Malcolm X and putting on more clothes. Getting catcalled, show us your privilege. By the way, as far as what he was saying, those fired, the whole thing is bullshit. The fire trucks were not sent to Sacramento to get emissions testing. They were sent there to be transitioned into minivans without their parents' consent. That's what happened.

But man! If there is one thing harder to extinguish than the fires, it is the most resilient of the right's talking points. The whole thing is a complete disaster. A lot of it comes back to DEI. Kristen Crowley, the fire chief in Los Angeles, she is a very silly woman. The first gay female fire chief ever. Wow.

Under her is Christina Kepner, first lesbian assistant chief. Then under her is Christine Larson. They're all Christina Christina. She's also a lesbian. Christina, Christina, Christina, lesbian, lesbian, lesbian. What? What are you doing?

You just f***ing summoned them. Do you understand? You can't just say the name three times. Do you know what you just unleashed onto this earth? From now on it's just infernos and lesbian firefighters. I'm not sure Megan with a Y should be criticizing people named Christina. But apparently to the right, drought conditions, high winds, and densely stacked flammable structures were all fine until they added the lesbians.

And then something peculiar happened. What is your message to city administrators, starting with Mayor Bass? My message is the fire department needs to be properly funded. And it's not? It's not at this point. Did the city of Los Angeles fail you?

Yes. We need to be fully, fully funded and supported so that our firefighters can do their jobs. Lesbian firefighter has attacked black lady mayor. Who will the right support in this opposite of a Sophie's choice? Really, I mean, in the hierarchy of DEI crimes, black lady, man, lesbian, firefighter, I don't know which one of those is there.

I want to say white whale, but that'd be wrong. Ah. Look, I'm not suggesting that DEI is not responsible for at least 99% of this tragedy. But devil's advocate, this is the Palisades in 1923. And that's not after a fire. It's just dead. It's like a desert.

And someone decided to build a city there, a densely populated, albeit beautiful city, in the middle of it. That's what they did. And I'm going to guess that the person whose idea it was wasn't a lesbian firefighter or a black lady mayor. We didn't even have lesbians back then

until one snuck here from France in 1934. So stop with the DEI. Oh, that was the straw that broke the camel's back. The meritocracy built that f***ing city. The meritocracy created the dangerous conditions that made a tragedy like this almost inevitable. Don't take my word for it. I know the liberal argument sounds like Charlie Brown's teacher to your ear. Let me get someone who speaks to your frequency.

So I was talking to this guy and he was telling me, he goes, dude, one day, he goes, it's just going to be the right wind and fire's going to start in the right place and it's going to burn through LA all the way to the ocean. And there's not a f***ing thing we can do about it. Now, of course, he did go on to say, lesbians will make it worse. But the point is, man, we are humans.

We build shit in difficult areas on the belief that we will figure out how to subdue God and nature. For God's sakes, 50 years they made a movie about what a dumb f***ing dumb idea would be to develop this city into the country's second largest metro area even they knew la wasn't a good place to raise your daughter or your sister. My sister. Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!

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Like they didn't give a ****. Sometimes things happen that are beyond the bounds of human infrastructure. Although admittedly, the LA powers that be have not covered themselves in glory at this time. Right now, if you need help emergency information resources and shelter is available all of this can be found at URL. Look I'm not saying she's Churchill ladies and gentlemen. Don't worry when the bombs start falling. Don't worry. Just insert useful information here. So yeah, improvements can be made in leadership, in management, in design, in materials, in myriad ways.

But sometimes, fire fucks a tornado and makes a mockery of human infrastructure and our ability to dictate the terms of our existence on this planet. But the one thing it shouldn't dictate is the cruelty that we would show to those in pain because we don't think they consistently vote right. But if you are gonna, please. But if you're gonna attach strings, I still think this announcement was too far. Lost everything in a natural disaster?

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then sit back and wait for the helpful input about transgender athletes to roll in. GoF**kYou, available in all blue states and any cities where the mayor is black or gay. When we come back, we'll be talking to Mark Carney. Don't go away. What about the daily show? My guest tonight, I'm excited about this. He is a Canadian economist, former governor of the Bank of Canada and Bank of England.

Please welcome to the program Mark Carney. Sir. Sir! Welcome, sir. I welcome you to our land, America. We are soon to be... Well there was a border when I land, America. We are soon to be. Well, there was a border when I came, John. When was the last time you checked Twitter? So you've really involved yourself in, I remember you from 2008.

And I truly mean this. Your work in helping Canada get through the economic crisis of 2008, the financial crisis that hit this country terribly, and I thought made a lot of really painful decisions for the people of this country, I thought Canada avoided the worst of that. And I believe you played a very strong role in that. We did. I mean, thank you.

We did. You're so. And but we, you know, we did because we didn't do things that we didn't understand. So we didn't let our banks do things that they didn't understand just because all the other banks were doing them. So subprime, CDO squared, really, you know,

fancy derivatives. You're saying you didn't let, you thought, let's not let the banks dissolve mortgages into particulate matter, mix it into cups. Throw it off, yeah. Throw it in the air and then sell that. Throw it in the air, take a big profit, pay themselves a lot of money. Yes. And then it hits the ground.

How did you not have to do that? We didn't understand it, John. Son of a bitch! We didn't understand it. That's all it took. That's all it took. So you've gone off now and you've worked with Brexit and the Bank of England trying to ease that.

On my idea. Brexit wasn't. Yeah. No, you're Canadian. You're very polite. Very nice. You're never one of those like, I want to leave a union. No, you stay in it until it dies. What are they making up there of the overtures and sort of trolling to Canada about being a part of the United States? Well, I mean, the bottom line is not going to happen.

To your respect. Um. You got it? The overture. I mean, uh. Because you don't want it? You don't want to be with them? Well, we're proud.

We find you very attractive. But we're not moving in with you. It's not you. It's us. We have, we do things a little differently in Canada. We believe in providing. I just want to before you go any further. I'm up for it, we're up for it, whatever you do differently.

We want to experiment too. What do you guys want? We can be, we can be friends There can be a few benefits John friends with benefits, but not Benefits of trade Benefits of you know defense right? Yeah. Yeah. No, we'll be cool about it We won't levy tariffs on all your goods as Retribution for you not going out with us. We respect your boundaries.

Is there a fear now that there will be an economic trade war with Canada? How much of this do you believe is bluster and how much preparation do you need to do for it? Well, we have to prepare for it. And I think, you know, you look at what happened five, six years ago when we did have a similar situation with the trade war. But that was only a lumber and there was only a few things. Lumber is very important to us, John. You know, it's fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

Why do I feel like you're breaking up with me the entire interview? This is, we're resetting the relationship and we're going to be stronger, we're going to be stronger going forward because as you say, we're going to respect our boundaries. Yeah, no, I'm just getting swiped left hard as hell here. Do you think this time, you know, look, I don't know that Americans know that 50% of, you know, our fuel comes from Canada. Yeah. Yeah, the electricity for this show comes from Canada. Not this show.

You got some solar up on the... Ours only comes from Venezuela. We're that leftist. It's that bad. Well, that, you know, that brings a point. Four and a half million barrels, a little more than that, of oil come from Canada to the United States. It's that bad. Well, that brings a point. 4 and 1 half million barrels, a little more than that, of oil come from Canada to the United States.

And if you don't take that oil, the way your refineries are, your other option is Venezuela. So OK, so that's funny you bring that up. We're taking them over as well. Are you surprised at, you know, is America generally, you know, I think we've always been known as, we like to live our values and speak them. It feels like this administration

is going to be more explicit about what's really happening. Hey, what's up, Greenland? I don't know if you know this, but you have something under your soil that we want, so you're ours. You know, I feel like past administrations would do the same thing, but they would be like, and we're liberating you. Like, they would make it a high-minded affair.

Is it easier to deal with someone that is transactional at his core in that way? Take your time. Yeah, I'm going to take my time. No, I think in the end, it's not. Because in the end, in a relationship, I'm going to keep the relationship theme. Oh my God.

If we're going to build, if we're going to... Did you just get out of therapy? What is happening? I feel like every time I say something, you're like, I hear you. I hear you. I made a few resolutions this year, John, and it was still in January. But you've got to have some shared values.

You've got to be able to predict how the other is going to behave. So it's not just a series of transactions. Look, we can do a series of transactions. We're fine. We're in a strong position. You want to do a series of deals, you know, we can do that.

Yeah. What's much better is to look at our... Look at everything we've had, John, together. And we could just... You were just about to lean into, like, look, man, if it's late and you're drunk, you can call us, it's cold. But I would rather we mean something to each other so that we get something out of this together.

Like Sunday afternoon in the park. That's what I'm talking about. So right now there is turmoil. Trudeau has resigned. Yes. There will be new elections. When do you know when the new elections are? They have to be by October. They could come sooner.

Sooner than October? Sooner than October, yes. What would be the trigger of the elections sooner? Well, it would be likely the choice of the current governing party, which is the Liberal Party. And you are of the Liberal Party? I am of the Liberal Party, yes. Are they looking for a new leader? I think they might be, John.

Sir, may I recommend to you, with your charm and debonair wit, yet strong financial backbone, that you offer yourself as... Have you offered yourself as leader? I just started thinking about it when you started. Just now? Yeah.

Just now. Because here's what the conservatives have. And this will blow your mind. So the conservatives are run by Pierre Poliev. Yes. Did I say that correctly? Yes. It's a fictional, J.K.

Rowling name at best Pierre polio. This is and this always fascinates me. I want to show this this is so Trudeau Obviously the other guy is Pierre polio. It looks like and he is Trudeau's rival. Yes they look like two fictional boys school rivals in like or like probably it seems like a villain in a like karate kid movie like there's something very very off-putting what is he like in person Take your time. You're not far off.

He is, I'll say this. Yes. There is a type of politician, you have a few of them here in the United States. I think we just saw. Stop it. Yeah. They had a lot in and around Brexit. Yes.

And we have Mr. Pauliath in Canada, type of politician who's, you know, tend to be lifelong politician. Really? Tend to worship the market. They've never actually worked in the private sector. Right. And they see opportunity and tragedy, like you just had with the California fires, these horrible fires.

Correct. And they see opportunity and tragedy to push an agenda that here's one they prepared earlier and they fit it in. And so whether it was Brexit here often, the star of the beast type approach. So Pierre-Paul Liev, when COVID started, his reaction was, hmm, this is a good time to cut spending and cut taxes.

Everyone's just been pushed out of a job. Nobody's got worked. was hmm this is a good time to cut spending and cut taxes. Everyone's just been pushed out of a job. Nobody's got worked so let's cut the taxes on the work they don't have and let's take away the social safety net when everybody's vulnerable. Wow. Yeah. And how did that work out for people? Did people have their homes?

Well fortunately he was in opposition so. Oh that was his idea. That was his idea. Ah and the people now see the headwinds for this more right wing populism, though, are all around the world. And it feels like Canada is no different there. I mean, did Trudeau bow out because he knew he wouldn't win? Is this an attempt to give the Liberal Party there a chance?

I think it does give the Liberal Party a chance, yes. Right. And he did that purposefully. Yeah, he came to that conclusion. He came to that conclusion, or Nancy Pelosi called him insane? Was it somewhere in the middle? Or one of your little satirical comedy shows up there did a bit that made fun of him for

five minutes and he fell apart. So who are the top contenders right now that you believe give the Liberal Party the best chance? Poliev is going to be their champion, yes? Yes. Who would give the best opportunity? Well I think in a situation like this you need change. You need to address the economy.

We've got an economic crisis because of what Mr. Trump is about to do or saying he's about to do. But we also have challenges in housing, cost of living. Did you have the same inflationary pressures that we faced here? I can debate the absolute level but we had the same inflationary pressures. No, we will debate the absolute level, but we had the same inflationary pressures as well. No, we will debate the absolute level right here and right now. I think the, look, Canadian's been very hard pressed in the last few years.

Wages have not kept up with inflation. People are falling behind, not getting ahead. Housing's very expensive. And there's this broader concern, again, exclamation point put on by the Trump tariffs, about what the future brings. The world's more divided, it's more dangerous, what are we going to do? And truth be told, the government has been not as focused on those issues as it could be.

We need to focus on them immediately. That can happen now, and that's what this election is going to be about. Can I tell you something? I feel like I'm looking in a mirror. We just had that election. Run. When I say run, I mean not for office. I mean f***ing run the other way.

It's so hard. When the headwinds are like that, it's really difficult for a candidate to come in who is saddled with the policies that are on... But let's say... Oh, boy. Let's say... Just throw in and out a wild... Look at you trying to preserve the relationship all of a sudden. A wild hypothetical. Let's say the candidate wasn't part of the government.

Let's say the candidate did have a lot of economic experience. Let's say the candidate did deal with crises. Let's say the candidate had a plan to deal with the challenges in the here and now. You sneaky. You're running as an outsider. I am an outsider. Wow. That's awesome. So, so you're going to be coming in there to say I, I have not been in the government.

I have worked in the financial markets. I understand all the things that go around trade. I mean, you worked, look, let's take the California fires. You've done an awful lot with the banks, with insurance industries. So you understand very particularly what's happening out there in California. Very particularly. I mean, 10 years ago, Governor of the Bank of England, you oversee the Lloyds of London, which does all the insurance for exactly this type of stuff. 10 years ago, they're saying, there's going to be a lot more fires. So we're going to have a lot less insurance, a lot less

insurance as we've seen, unfortunately, in California. I mean, it's an absolute tragedy with people going through a lot less insurance place Like Canada last year you may have noticed here in New York. We had a few fires in Canada. Yes There's a lot to you about that later the fire The fires in Canada including where I was born my hometown Fort Smith Northwest Territories around where I grew up in Alberta These fires second really? where I grew up in Alberta. These fires... Hold on one second. Really?

Laughter Small town. Small town. From Alberta. And they've probably been sleeping the whole time they heard the name. Whoo! Laughter Whoo! Is the bus going to Alberta?

What are we doing here? Applause But all... You got the fires. We got the fires. We got the fires, John. If the fires alone would have made Canada the fourth largest emitter in the world after the United States, China, and India. Just the fires.

Just the fires alone. And this, you could see this coming 10 years ago as the insurance companies and now we're dealing with this, which is why we need to act more broadly on the issue of climate. Through climate and everything else. Let me ask you a question about this because this speaks to what these Republican politicians say. They keep saying, oh this DEI, Lloyd's of London, insurance companies, 10 years ago they make risk assessments and they change policies. Did they change those policies because they assessed the risk

of lesbians being in the firefighting department? Or did they go, climate change is happening and these fires are going to be more damaging and they're going to happen more frequently, and so we're going to be changing our rates and

we're going to be dropping policies. Which one did they go with? Very decidedly the second. And what they have seen is the number of these extreme events that they insure. Remember, they're pulling back insurance from, you know, you can't get insurance in many coastal areas in Florida. You can't get insurance, obviously, in Los Angeles.

So they've been pulling back and still even with all that sophistication the number of these extreme weather events that they insure have gone up three times and the cost of it has gone up five times. Right. So they are furiously backpedaling. And this gets us to the rub which I think is why I feel like we're in such a vice when it comes to climate change and

political feasibility and what can we reasonably expect people's virtue to accomplish. You know, you have always, you've championed with the banking industry, ESG projects, you've championed climate projects. As soon as these big banks got a hold that Donald Trump was gonna be back in office,

they all bailed. They all bailed on all these commitments that they made. And you're left in some ways holding the carbon tax bag. Is that going to make your running more difficult? Wow, you packed a lot into that. I did. Can I tell you something? I read your Wikipedia page. The, remind me to edit it later on.

The two things, one, what the banks, and it's only the American banks, but what they decided to do. Right. Is to focus. I didn't know there were other banks, but go ahead. Focus on financing, but in terms of, for Canada, you know, what we need to do is make sure that we're addressing these issues, doing our bit, making our companies more competitive, because you know what's going to happen in the United States?

Five years from now, you're going to care about it again, right? You're going to have an election, you're going to care about it again. We better be in a position where we've done our bit at that point. But we need to do it in a way that Canadians today are not paying the price. Right.

Now, how do you do that? That's the rub. How do you make proactive measures on future disasters feasible in a political moment today? Every time I've seen a gas tax or a carbon tax floater, it's not politically feasible. So the vast majority of our emissions in Canada come from our industry. In fact, almost 30% of our emissions from Canada come from the production

and shipment of oil to the United States. You're welcome. You're welcome, yeah. So part of it is cleaning that up, getting those emissions down, more than changing in a very short period of time the way Canadians live. Right. But you're not obviously going to take away our oil. We'd like to take...

Well, you don't apparently want the oil as much as you used to. We want it very badly. Have you decided to run yet? Because a lot of people in the Liberal Party in Canada have said specifically they will not run. I think they fear the headwinds in this election. Have you decided? Well, I want to, can I say one thing on that?

I want to defend, because this is a very important point. So if you look at our foreign minister, Melanie Jolie, our finance minister, Dominique LeBlanc, Steve McKinnon,olie, our finance minister, Dominique LeBlanc, Steve McKinnon, who's our labor minister. They are not running, in part because there's a crisis right now because of the threat of the Trump tariffs. So... So they're saying, I won't run because I want to focus on...

They're, yeah, country before party and personal ambition, and it's absolutely... Right, right, right. party and personal ambition is absolutely. So but do you say. You don't have a job president like I do but it's you and dollars a coy with me I love. I love this cat and mouse we had to shake things up we are we are having a we've spiced up our relationship tremendously throughout this interview.

So congratulations on announcing on this program that you are going to be the leader. We seal it with a handshake. Mark Carney, we're going to take a quick break, and we'll be right back after this. Sure. All right. ["Sweet Home Alone"]

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Yeah! Hey, that's our show for tonight. But obviously, before we go, we're gonna check in with your host for the rest of the week, Mr. Jordan Klumper. Jordan! Talk to me, man. What do you got on deck for the rest of the week? Oh, well, we'll be talking about the government banning TikTok next week, John. And I know we've all had our fun, but now that it's over, might I suggest a little something called books?

I think you might find them equally entertaining. I don't think... Do you have a charger? Maybe a charger? No, you don't think that... Do you have a charger? Maybe a charger? No, you don't. On books, you don't swipe up the pages. I've turned out a book before, okay? I've forgotten how to read.

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