The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Kamala’s Media Blitz, Porn Politics, and the Fight for Abortion Rights
Episode Date: October 10, 2024Jordan Klepper unpacks Kamala Harris’s recent media blitz, focusing on how she is carving out her identity apart from Biden. Melania Trump takes to Fox News for a book tour, Stephen Miller adopts hi...s "sexual matador" persona, and Project 2025 targets the porn industry. In "Sports War," Ronny Chieng and Jordan clash over rumors about Aaron Rodgers, Vanderbilt vandalism, and Pete Rose’s farewell. Jessica Valenti discusses her bestselling book on abortion rights and the post-Dobbs landscape ahead of the election.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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We got so much to talk about tonight.
Welcome to the Daily Show. I'm George Clever. We got so much to talk about tonight.
Calvary's packing heat, Trump's sleeping in the buff,
and I get to yell at Ronny Chieng.
But first, let's get into it with another installment
of Indecision 2024.
All right, we are just 26 days away from the election.
That's less than one menstrual cycle,
according to the period app
JD Vance is secretly tracking you with.
So, with less than a month to go,
both campaigns are going all out,
starting with Democratic nominee Kamala Harris,
who's been everywhere recently.
New shows, daytime talk shows, satellite radio, podcasts,
your kids' piano recital.
She applauded, but seriously, Chopsticks?
I mean, you could do better, Arlo.
This media blitz is not a moment too soon
because voters are looking for change
and Kamala needs to articulate
why she's the candidate of change.
She's had plenty of time to think about it.
So let's see her answer.
If anything, would you have done something differently
than President Biden during the past four years?
There is not a thing that comes to mind.
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You asked me...
Oh, I got a list.
Yes.
Right?
You asked me,
what's the difference between Joe Biden and me?
Well, that will be one of the differences.
I'm gonna have a Republican in my cabinet.
Okay.
Everything Joe Biden did plus Republicans.
Sneaky move, you know?
Appealing to Republicans by promising to do a diversity move, you know, appealing to Republicans
by promising to do a diversity hire, you know?
Which they famously love that.
Now that she said that, I'm sure she said she won't go too far
in trying to appeal to conservatives.
I have a Glock.
Okay. Okay.
Okay. Easy, Madam Vice President. I have a Glock. Okay. Okay. Easy, Madam Vice President.
I have a family, okay?
You know, I guess in these times,
you do have to reach out to people
who wouldn't be your natural allies,
and obviously, she gets that.
You have my sword.
And you have my bow.
And my axe. I have a Glock.
That's...no.
That was very dumb.
But as Kamala reaches out to Republicans,
her Republican opponent, Donald Trump,
has been sitting down for podcast interviews,
which are great because there's more
of a freewheeling conversation there
that allows him to really dig deep into the issues.
I'm good with names, you know.
You are. You're very good with names.
You are, yeah. You know, Pocahontas.
Yeah. We have names.
What about, and there was, you, Tampon Tim was good.
What about, is that? The problem with Tampon Tim,
it's hard to say. Yeah.
In other words...
It's a mouthful.
But when you put the names together, it's a little...
You got to be able to pew.
Oh!
You know, it's nice to see how reflective Trump
has become in his old age.
Looking back on everything, I wonder,
did Tampon Tim have enough pew-pew?
Meanwhile, the Trump campaign has brought out
a very special surrogate, Melania Trump,
former first lady and the only Slovenian
you can name off the top of your head.
Well, we don't see a lot of Melania,
but she's also been on a media tour this week.
Fox News, social media, your kid's piano recital.
Arlo, you are not to be best.
Now, obviously, she's out there because she's a supportive wife
who believes in her husband's America first.
I'm f***ing with you.
She has a book to sell.
You know, people make a lot of jokes about this marriage,
but when I look at their shared love of exploiting
our political system to sell shit for personal profit,
I just see two soulmates.
Now, we actually have a copy here.
Yeah, this is it. This is her book.
I want to read you a quick passage
just to give you a feel for it.
This is real. Page 78,
from right after he won the 2016 election.
As Donald prepared to go down to his office on Wednesday morning,
he and I had a private moment.
Congratulations, I said.
What an achievement.
All those other people.
And you won.
You're the President of the United States of America.
And you're the first lady, he said.
Good luck.
I got to wipe a tear on that one.
That is a heartwarming moment
that definitely wasn't created by ChatGPT.
Turns out writing is hard when you don't have Michelle Obama
to plagiarize from.
It is hard. It's very difficult.
Very difficult.
And yesterday, Melania paid a visit
to her husband's other true love, Fox News,
where she revealed an interesting personal tidbit
about her husband.
Would you have married Donald Trump
if you had a crystal ball that said he would be president?
Huh, that's an interesting question.
Yeah.
By the way, does he ever sleep?
He doesn't sleep much. He does, of course.
Does he wear pajamas?
No.
What does he wear when he sleeps, Melania?
Well, one of the things she...
Oh.
No pajamas, huh?
That's a steamy image.
Just imagine that scene.
Trump under the covers,
dressed only in his long red tie.
Melania says,
you are naked in bed.
And he says, and you are the first lady.
Good luck.
Wow. Wow.
Ooh. Ooh. Ooh.
Pretty sexy stuff.
But maybe hearing about Donald Trump's bedtime routine
from Melania doesn't get your engines revving.
Fortunately, the campaign also brought out
someone for the ladies.
Former senior adviser to President Trump,
Stephen Miller, is here.
We're getting a lot of texts from women
about Miller and his appearances and his appearance.
Our audience at prime time believes
you're some sort of sexual matador.
Ooh!
Stephen Miller is a sexual matador.
Is that because he's literally a walking red flag?
If...
Fox, I got to say, I'm worried about you.
You already had to pay $780 million
for lying to your audience,
but this could be the one that bankrupts you.
I mean, come on. I mean, I do believe Stephen Miller is a real lady killer,
but more so in a check the basement kind of way.
You know what? I'll bite.
What does make Stephen Miller such catnip for the females?
If you're a young man who's looking to impress ladies,
the best thing you can do
is to wear your Trump support on your sleeve.
Show that you are a real man.
Show that you are not a Betta.
Ooh!
He's so alpha, he doesn't even know how to say beta!
Oh!
Wow!
Do you hear that? Do you hear that?
That sound you just heard was thousands of Southern borders
instantly shutting down. I'm talking about, you know what I'm...
You know what I'm...
You guys got it?
Okay.
Okay. You good?
Thank you. But do you hear that, Ben?
Do you listen to Stephen Miller?
Don't be a beta cuck and vote for Kamala Harris.
Come out to this sweet rally
where a guy double jerks to the YMCA, you know?
Now...
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Apparently, it does get people going.
Now, maybe, maybe you're thinking,
Jordan, Jordan, you started the show
talking about the election,
and now it seems to be a lot of sex stuff.
Well, first of all, mom,
I've tried to explain how this show works many times.
But also, sexuality is a campaign issue this year.
Project 2025 calls for banning pornography,
and some other big news from the last few days
is that the porn industry
is making their own campaign ads against it.
They have started a hands-off my porn campaign,
which includes video ads that roll before the porn does
on adult video providing websites.
I'm Holly Randall and I've been working
in the adult industry for over 25 years.
I need to address the threat of Project 2025.
Yes! My favorite porn category.
Informational PSA.
But don't just go snickering,
ooh, pornography.
This is an issue of personal freedom.
And these are the people who can speak to it most directly.
So, let's hear more of these ads.
Before you get swept up believing that porn is misogynistic,
maybe actually talk to the people who work in it.
I don't see you guys out there crying
about how men are exploited in porn.
Have you seen those ball-crushing videos?
Not my thing, but again,
that's a choice made by consenting adults.
I will say, it's strangely comforting to know
that there are things on the Internet
that even porn stars look at and go,
man, what the fuck?
You ask me, though, the big problem with these ads
is that they're running them before the porn video starts.
You really should run them after the porn videos
when there's clarity of mind.
That's when I write my holiday cards.
Frankly, if you want to be truly effective,
all you need to do is just show people
what porn would look like under Project 2025.
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We are in a shocking situation.
We come back. Hey everybody, John Stewart here. I am here to tell you about my new podcast, The Weekly Show, coming out every Thursday.
We're going to be talking about the election earnings calls.
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Let's take a break from politics to cover the one
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For a full recap of the biggest stories in the world
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It's called a skull.
Well, lucky for us, yours is empty.
It's October, one month where practically every league
is going at it like some kind of sports gangbang.
That's right.
There's more balls flying around
than that time Ronnie wore his Daisy Dukes to the office.
Well, that's on you for looking.
And nowhere is the sports gang paying hotter
right now than here in New York.
Between the Liberty, the Mets, the Yankees, the Knicks,
this city could only be happier
if Ronnie announced he was leaving it.
Well, if I ever leave,
it's because your mom is getting too clingy.
Nice one, Ronnie.
I hope you get circumcised in your sleep.
And while many New York sports fans are celebrating,
there's one team showing us that Boeing ain't
the only one with imploding jets.
Now to breaking news in sports, the Jets have fired their head coach Robert Sala just five
games into the season, a move that comes two days after they just lost in London in disappointing
fashion.
There is rampant speculation that Aaron Rodgers is behind the firing of Sala.
J-E-T-S.
Suck, suck, suck.
Oh, man.
What a terrible move by the Jets.
Coach Sala wasn't the problem.
It's clearly Aaron Rodgers.
That's like me firing the camera guy
for the stupid shit that comes out of Ronnie's mouth.
Yeah, well, your mouth looks like a fish vagina.
And you couldn't be more wrong, okay?
Firing starlight is exactly what the Jets need.
For 55 years they've sucked with a coach.
Hey, maybe it's time to play without one.
Just one season, raw dogging it without a coach
and hey, maybe the Jets will win the Super Bowl.
The only thing getting raw dogged is your brain.
You can't let a bunch of NFL players coach themselves.
They need Google Maps just to get out of the huddle.
But we all know there's only one, maybe two people
crazy enough to take a job coaching the Jets.
Which brings us to our Jordan Klepper
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Moving on from an upset man to the upset of the year.
Next, a once in a lifetime upset in college football.
Vanderbilt beat number one Alabama on Saturday 40 to 35.
Vanderbilt students were so excited,
they tore down one of the goal posts
and carried it a couple miles into downtown Nashville.
Then they tossed it into the Cumberland River.
Okay, okay, okay.
Rated in, you private school nerds.
Winning is exciting, but show a little class.
You don't gloat in front of the other team's fans.
You bully them online like a normal person.
Okay, Jordan, I know you're not used to winning,
but this is what it looks like, okay?
You're just mad they threw the goalposts in the river
because you empathize with long, skinny, useless things.
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And finally, moving on to a more somber story
as we honor the passing of one of America's greatest heroes.
Pete Rhodes, Major League Baseball's all-time hits leader who was famously banned from the
sport for gambling, has died.
Rose was famously banned from the Baseball Hall of Fame for gambling allegations.
He denied those allegations for years before eventually admitting that he did bet on baseball
both as a player and as a manager.
All while he lobbied to be considered for the Hall of Fame,
his lifelong wish never granted.
Now, I don't want to discount what Jackie Robinson did,
but what Pete Rose accomplished
was a billion times more important.
He's a legend in two of America's pastimes,
gambling as a player and gambling as a coach.
Pete Rose definitely belongs in the Baseball Hall of Fame.
Jordan, have you been hit in your oblong head
by another pitch?
Pete Rose doesn't belong in the Baseball Hall of Fame.
A hero like him belongs in every Hall of Fame.
Baseball, basketball, rock and roll,
hip-hop, automotive, obby's,
put his name on the Vietnam Memorial, everywhere.
Yo, they should hang his bookie's phone number
from the rafters.
Boy, Ronnie, I really wish God took you
instead of Pete Rose.
Which brings us to my Jordan's Champagne Room
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What will Pete Rose gamble on first in heaven?
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All right, that's all the stories this week.
Join us next time on SportsWalk.
Yeah, we'll debate if it counts as cheating on your wife if you do it with a tackling
dummy.
Well, obviously not.
Wait, do we agree on this one?
Wait, no, we can't agree on this one.
I would say, okay.
No, I think if. I would say.
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Welcome back to The Daily Show.
My guest tonight is award-winning writer and activist
whose new book is called
Abortion, Our Bodies, Their Lies,
and the Truce We Use to Win.
Please welcome Jessica Valenti.
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Not a shabby way.
Not too shabby, right?
Not too shabby.
Not too shabby.
I'll take it.
This book is fantastic.
I feel like you articulate at the top.
Thank you.
And also, I should say this.
You just got word this is a New York Times bestseller, baby.
It is.
Number one?
It is.
No, not number one.
Not number one?
Not number one.
Not number one, but a bestseller.
Right by the skin of our teeth, but I'll take it.
Oh, you'll take it.
This grew out of a newsletter you were writing called Abortion Every Day. Yeah. Why did you write it? one, but a best seller. Right by the skin of our teeth, but I'll take it. Oh, you'll take it.
This grew out of a newsletter you were writing
called Abortion Every Day.
Yeah.
Why did you feel the need to start a newsletter,
Abortion Every Day?
I mean, I probably should have called it Abortion Every Hour
because that's how often the news is coming out,
breaking about abortion.
The attacks are just so unrelenting.
They're nonstop.
And I think I just wanted to provide a little bit of order
to the chaos to help people understand what was going on.
And sort of same thing with the book,
give them the information, context, language
that they need to talk about this issue.
Because people really do care so much.
People are so pissed off about abortion bans.
They're so upset.
But they're also so overwhelmed, right?
It's just so much to be happening.
And so I wanted to create something
that people could really use in a useful way
and also channel a little bit of anger.
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
It feels like this book is there to provide clarity for people
who want to engage in the conversation
but perhaps don't know how.
Yeah, absolutely.
Post-Dobbs, for the people who maybe,
I don't want to say tuned out post-DOBS, for the people who maybe,
I don't want to say tuned out post-DOBS,
but I think for a lot of people, if you're not
paying close attention to the news each day
or what's happening at a state level,
perhaps even if you live in a blue state, after DOBS,
even if you care about the abortion issue,
it seems as if your head jumps to federal abortion ban.
Is that the new next battle?
What are people missing if they're not
paying attention to what's happening in some of these other states?
That's a great question.
I'm still very state-focused, right,
because it's such a crisis on the ground in these states.
You're talking about places where OB-GYNs
are leaving by the busload.
Places like Idaho have lost 25% of their OB-GYNs.
And as we've seen with horror story after horror story,
hospitals are not treating patients, right?
Like, it is not a normal state of affairs
when we're letting miscarrying, bleeding women go home,
when we're sending them home.
And so I think we need to be paying attention
to what is happening on the ground.
But, yes, certainly with the election coming up,
I'm very, very worried about the possibility
of a national ban or even anything Trump could do
outside of a national ban to make abortion harder to get,
like the Comstock Act, replacing the head of the FDA
to make abortion medication illegal.
Now, I know there's been some softening in the discussion
on the conservative side.
When you hear J.D. Vance softening on that issue,
how much do you believe him on a scale from zero
to get the f*** out of here?
Yeah, it's definitely get the f*** out of here.
Okay.
No, I mean...
It's true.
Yeah.
No, he's totally full of it, right?
And the softening is all a PR move, right?
Like, it's all, and this is why I wrote the book,
because they're using this language to make it appear
as if they are more moderate
than they actually are on abortion,
using terms like minimum national standard.
I don't support a ban,
I support a minimum national standard.
Those are the same exact thing, right?
And so it's just a bunch of nonsense.
We've seen the same thing with Trump,
but we know what would happen if Trump was elected.
We know that the suffering that we've already seen
in so many states across the country
would just get exponentially worse.
It's curious, Narebeke, you talk about
sort of the battle over language,
which we've seen go way back,
whether it's pro-choice, pro-life,
but you kind of get into the nitty-gritty
about like Nikki Haley talking about consensus,
talking about what late-term abortions mean.
Like, for folks who aren't paying attention,
why is that so important, and how do you see
that getting morphed and shifted right now?
Sure.
I mean, this is how they trick voters, right?
So they use words like, I don't want to ban,
I want consensus legislation.
We're not banning abortion.
We're giving it back to the will of the people.
We're giving it back to the states.
Because this is something voters feel so strongly about,
81% of voters do not want government involvement
in abortion at all.
They don't want it regulated by the law.
They are working really hard to use language
that makes it sound as if voters are with them, right?
They're trying to do this very clever pivot.
And with something like late abortion,
which is not a real medical term,
they're constantly moving the goalposts
for what late abortion means.
So when you hear someone like Nikki Haley say,
I'm against late abortion, ask her how many weeks that is.
Because right now, I've been tracking the anti-abortion
movement.
Right now, to them, that's 12 weeks.
So when they say, I support consensus legislation
for late-term abortion, they're saying,
I support a national ban at 12 weeks.
That's how you have to sort of decode the language.
When I go out, so I go out to Trump rallies a lot.
Yeah.
But I will talk to people in the MAGA movement,
sometimes about abortion.
And this book would be very helpful for some of that.
I find what I run into a lot, how do you engage with people who come from a religious perspective
or at least use that as the card in which they will not engage with that?
How legitimate is that argument and or are you wasting your time having these conversations
with people who put up abortion underneath their religious beliefs the religious beliefs it's not up for the fair
i mean i feel really strongly that you shouldn't waste your activist energy
it's a precious resource right you shouldn't be talking to brick walls
we all care about someone who is conservative religious you feel like you
want to change their mind
pointing out that there are so many people uh...
who are religious who still understand that their personal and religious
beliefs shouldn't dictate what other people do with their bodies.
I do think that that is something that works.
But I also really think that it can be a distraction, this idea that we need to go out and change
hearts and minds.
Because American voters are with us.
Americans, when it comes to voters, they know they want abortion legal, period.
This is true in red states, This is true across the country.
It really is.
And...
when we get dragged into this idea
that we need to go out and take that activist energy
and waste it on trying to change someone's mind
who's never going to change their mind,
that's a real issue.
At the end of the day, this is a problem
of a small group of extremist legislators
imposing their will on the vast majority of voters.
And so I think of it not as changing people's minds.
It's a democracy issue.
It's making sure people can vote.
It's making sure that we don't have voter intimidation.
That is the stuff that I'm really most focused on.
So when you look at the energy, energy best use...
Yeah....in that fight,
it's not in those conversations necessarily.
It's aimed at local legislators.
It's aimed at getting people out to vote.
Absolutely.
I mean, if you look at right now,
abortion is on the ballot in 10 states.
And in every single state where abortion is on the ballot,
Republicans have worked over time
to make it impossible for voters to have a say.
Because they know that when voters have a direct say
on abortion rights, abortion rights wins.
Just this week in Florida,
I wrote about Governor Ron DeSantis,
his administration is threatening television stations
with criminal charges if they run ads for amendment four,
which is the pro-choice amendment down in Florida.
They will do anything they can to stop voters
from knowing the truth about these laws
and from getting to the polls.
Wow, yeah.
And Mickey Mouse too, they're not against that. Why even go to Florida anymore?
For God's sakes. I know. So sad.
When you look at this and see the legislators
who are behind this, perhaps the DeSantis,
but even more on the local level,
how much of this do you see as right-wing legislators
who are using this as a way to gain power within their party,
perhaps not true believers,
but using it as a form of manipulation? And their party, perhaps not true believers, but using it as
form of manipulation.
And how much of this, you talk about legislators who are doing this to exert control over women's
bodies, in some dark terms.
When you look overall at that, how much of it is just a blatant move to be in a position
of power, and how much of it is exerting power over a woman's body?
I think it's both.
I wrote a column once called The Worst Guy You Know.
Think about the biggest asshole from high school,
the guy who is devil's advocate, always
had something to say, that's who the prosecutor is now.
That's who the local legislator is now.
That's who the sheriff is who are
bringing forward these cases.
So when you look at the people who are really enforcing these laws on a local and state level, they're the worst guy, you know, they're the worst kind of person you can possibly imagine.
That said, I do think that there are a lot of politicians who don't really care. They don't care. It's just about the power to them. Something that happened in Tennessee right after Roe was overturned, I think is a really good example, where Republicans saw that people were really upset
about abortion bans.
And in Tennessee at the time,
they didn't have an exception for women's lives.
There was no exception.
Doctors had to break the law
in order to save someone's life with an abortion
and then explain why it was okay that they broke the law.
And Republicans said,
well, maybe we should get an exception on the books.
They were so under the thumb of local pro-life groups of big groups like Susan B. Anthony,
pro-life America.
These groups were lobbying them not to have an exception for women's lives.
So they very, very much are listening to sort of these other forces.
And so it sort of doesn't matter what they think if they're just going to do what these
groups say anyway. I mean, in dark times, we have some of the worst
guy you know from high school.
What is the best guy you know from high school doing right
now?
Oh, I love that question.
Probably making phone calls to get bus tickets for people
to get out of Florida.
No, really, to get an abortion out of state.
I think one of the most amazing things about doing this work over the last two plus years
has been seeing the way that people have come together on this issue to make sure that people
can get the care that they need no matter what.
There are so many folks like abortion funds on the ground which are in the middle of a
funding crisis and could really use your help.
There are so many people who are doing the hard work of ensuring that people can get
those abortions.
That is what brings me just a tremendous amount of hope and positivity for the future.
Well, it's a great book, and if you're tentative about getting in the conversation, this book
will get you out of the door.
Thank you.
This book, Abortion, is available now.
Jessica Volentz.
We're going to take a quick break.
We'll be right back after this.
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I didn't know he was such a Casanova.
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