The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Keeping Up with Coronavirus - International Edition | Michele Harper & Patton Oswalt

Episode Date: July 17, 2020

Trevor covers international COVID-19 news, Dr. Michele Harper discusses her memoir "The Beauty in Breaking," and Patton Oswalt talks about "I'll Be Gone in the Dark." Learn more about your ad-choices... at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:27 listen to 60 Minutes, a second look, starting September 17th, wherever you get your podcasts. Hey everybody, welcome to the daily social distancing show. I'm Trevor Noah. Now, before we begin, there's an issue that has been brewing online about me, and I've been trying to avoid this for a few days now, but I feel like I owe you the viewers of the Daily Show an explanation. And also my bosses are forcing me to address this.
Starting point is 00:00:57 I'm referring, of course, to my hoodies. Many of you have been asking why I'm still wearing hoodies when it's 90 degrees outside Well, you may not have noticed but I'm not outside I have been taping the show from a place called inside Which contrary to popular belief is not outside and so because I am inside as it's known? I have the ability to? Condition the air to a level and temperature of my choosing. And I know some people might ask, well Trevor, then why don't you, why don't you, why don't you just turn down the air conditioning so that the apartment is more
Starting point is 00:01:35 warm? Well, if I did that, I wouldn't be able to wear a hoodie. And I like wearing hoodies. But still, to anyone who I've made feel hot, I apologize. I never intended for my temperature choices to affect your temperature feelings. Also, completely unrelated to this scandal, we won't be having a show Friday, Saturday, or Sunday, as I will be taking a long-planned vacation to go trout fishing. Anyway, on tonight's episode, Kanye West is coming for the White House, why celebrities were banned from sending tweets and reparations are finally here.
Starting point is 00:02:13 So let's do this, people. Welcome to the Daily Social Distancing Show. From Trevor's couch in New York City to your couch somewhere in the world. This is the daily social distancing show with Trevor Noah. Ears Edition. Let's kick it off with Twitter, social media network and Trump's longest serving press secretary. On a normal day, it's a place where people can share ideas with each other while also getting yelled at by neo-Nazis.
Starting point is 00:02:42 But yesterday was not a normal day. Today, Twitter is scrambling to recover from one of the biggest security breaches in internet history, after Bitcoin scammers apparently compromised some of the platform's highest profile accounts for hours Wednesday, targeting companies like Uber and Apple,
Starting point is 00:03:00 and wealthy public figures like Bill Gates, Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos, even former President Barack Obama and former Vice President Joe Biden. Many of the hijacked accounts posting similar language, inviting users to submit Bitcoin payments to a single account, promising to double their money. Several hundred people quickly responded, sending in tens of thousands of dollars. Twitter revealing the hack was a coordinated social engineering attack by people who successfully targeted some of our employees with access to internal systems and tools.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Twitter also confirming they prevented some verified accounts from tweeting Wednesday evening as they investigated the attack. That's right. Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos, Kim Kardashian. Yo, if you were famous, there was a good chance you were hacked on Twitter yesterday. Now, for some reason, the hackers missed my account, which makes no sense because I'm famous, but whatever. It's probably like a second round or something.
Starting point is 00:04:01 I don't care. So, Twitter released a statement saying that luckily, the president's Twitter account was not hacked....... the attack. the attack. the attack. the attack. the attack. the attack. the attack. the attack. the attack. the attack. the attack. the attack. the attack. the attack. the attack. the attack. the attack. the attack. the attack. the attack. the attack. the attack. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the attack. the attack. the attack. the attack. the attack. the attack. the attack. the attack. tha ta tack. attack. attack. attack. attack. attack. attack. toda attack. toda toda toda today. today. tha. tha. th., Twitter released a statement saying that luckily the president's Twitter account was not hacked. But how would they know? I mean, this is the same guy who tweets about beans, Iran and the Confederacy in the span of 10 minutes. He prehacks himself. The only way you'd know if a hacker got Trump is if the spelling was correct. Guys, Trump spelled coronavirus right. I think he got hacked. So in response to the hack, Twitter actually disabled tweets from anyone with a verified account.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Yeah, blue check mark couldn't tweet. And I've got to be honest, as someone who has a verified account, because I'm famous, remember. It was hard not being able to post for a few hours yesterday. And I had to resort to some drastic measures. At Anna Kendrick, I have a great voice, and I would love to be in the next Trolls' Movie. At Trevor Noah, I told you to leave me alone. Blocked and reported.
Starting point is 00:05:00 At Anna Kendrick, thanks so much for responding. Big fan! Moving on to some political news. Last week, Kanye West, hip-hop superstar and permanent residents on everyone's prayer list announced that he was running for president. And then a few days later, one of his advisors said actually, he's not running for president. But now, maybe he is. Kanye West, unconventional bid is showing signs of life. Oklahoma officials confirming that he will appear on the November general election ballot.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Now the group called Kanye 2020 filed the first federal election forms for West's candidacy. Okay, I'm sorry, this is just crazy. Kanye West is actually running for president. I mean, I guess he reversed his position on whether one man should have all that power. Now a lot of people are worried that that tho-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th. th, th, th. th, th, th. th, th. th. thi, thi, thi-o, thi-o, thi-o, thi-o, thi-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-n. thoan, thoan, thoan, thoan, thoan, thoan his position on whether one man should have all that power. Now, a lot of people are worried that Kanye will be a spoiler for Joe Biden. But I don't know, man, think about it. Who is Kanye West? He's a man who goes on long, unintelligible rants,
Starting point is 00:05:57 constantly flip-flops on his positions, brags about the size of his penis. I mean, if anything, Kanye is Trump but with better beats. And I mean, this all goes to show you how much things can change. Who would have thought 10 years ago that one day you'd be thinking, okay, man, I'm scared that Kanye could become president, but at least Kim Kardashian will be there to bring some seriousness to the White House. But let's move on to someone even less qualified to be president than Kanye. Donald J. Trump. Most polls now show him losing badly to Democratic nominee and Sunglass Hut platinum member Joe Biden.
Starting point is 00:06:33 And yesterday, Trump took a big step to try and stop the bleeding. Breaking news in Washington where President Trump announced a shakeup in his re-election team. With less than four months until election day, President Trump is announcing a major change to his re-election team. The president demoted longtime manager Brad Parscal. It comes amid a string of botched efforts to reboot his campaign amid the ongoing pandemic, including his June rally in Tulsa, where only a third of the arena was filled.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Trump promoted the deputy campaign manager Bill Steepian to the new role of manager. Parskow will stay on the team. Sources say he was informed of the change by the president's son-in-law Jared Kushner. Wow, I I'm not gonna lie, I kind of feel bad for this guy. Not only did he get fired but he got fired by Jared Kushner. Like, what was that conversation like? We have to let you go because you're just not succeeding in your job. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to get back to solving the Middle East. It's almost worse that he's also still part of the campaign team. All right?
Starting point is 00:07:37 Think about that. Staying on the team when you've been demoted. It's like your wife leaving to leaving to leaving to leaving, to leaving, to leaving, to leave to leave to leave, told, told, to told, to to to told, to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. to th. th th th th thi, the to the thi, the the the the the to the to the to to to to to to the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to, to, to, to, to, to to the to the the the the the the the the the the th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. the. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thi. then saying you're welcome to live with her and her new boyfriend. Oh, you can watch, baby. And you know what, if you ask me, this guy's not the problem here, man, he's a scapegoat. Donald Trump's campaign isn't struggling because of his campaign manager. It's struggling because Donald Trump is the candidate. What's a new campaign manager going to do? He's going to say, our campaign needs a consistent to to to to to to to to to to to their to their to their to their their to to their their their their their their their their their the. consistent message, and then Trump will be like, you got it, I'm gonna do a photo of myself in a bathtub, covered in goya beans, so much goya, goya, goya, goya,
Starting point is 00:08:10 all over my body. So condolences to Brad Pascal, but you should be really proud of yourself, man, because at this point, getting out of the Trump campaign without getting into prison, That's an achievement. In other news, as coronavirus continues to rage across the country, more people are finally learning the importance of wearing face masks.
Starting point is 00:08:32 Walmart and other major chains have announced that people must wear masks in their stores. It is mandatory, and the governor of Alabama issued a statewide mask mandate. But unfortunately, some people are still standing firm against science. Georgia Governor Brian Kemp is banning local governments from mandating masks despite a sharp spike in cases in his state.
Starting point is 00:08:57 He extended his public health declaration to include banning 15 cities and counties from ordering people to wear a face mask in public. We can have all this guidance and everything else, but if people won't follow it and do the right thing, then it doesn't really matter. Okay, hold up, hold up, hold up. This governor is saying, why even have laws? People aren't gonna follow them anyway?
Starting point is 00:09:23 My man, we're already living through outbreak. I'm not try to even th the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to follow them anyway. My man, we're already living through outbreak. I'm not trying to add the purge. I don't even get what the hang-up is. What are people fighting? Are they fighting tyranny? Is that why they don't want to wear masks? Because you realize the government also makes you wear clothes in public too. That's a thing. Yeah, but I don't tho tho tho th no tho tho thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. tho tho tho tho thi. thi. tho. tho tho tho tho tho their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. the. the. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. the. the. thea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. these are freedom nuts! And finally, it took 155 years, but here's some good news for black people.
Starting point is 00:09:49 A historic moment in North Carolina, the city of Asheville apologizing to black residents for racist policies and approving a resolution for reparations. The vote calls for increased investment in the black community, including in housing and business. The resolution also asked the state and federal governments to form policies to create generational wealth. Wow, wow, wow, this is really special news. And I think the first step of reparations should be changing that city's name from
Starting point is 00:10:16 Asheville to Moisturizedville. Can't claim to be an ally of black people if you're named after their worst enemy. Unfortunately, though, because this is happening in Asheville, North Carolina, all reparations will be paid in Artisan Crafts from the Thriving Gallery community. For more Asheville specific comedy, tune into my spin-off show, the De Asheville show with Trevor North Carolina.
Starting point is 00:10:39 Now, obviously, people have a lot of strong opinions when it comes to reparations. So let's check in with our very own Dulce-Sloan and see what she thinks about Asheville's historic move. Dulce-Sloan, this is some exciting news don't you think? I mean, African-Americans beginning to get reparations? Yeah, it sounds good, Trevor, but I've been black far too long to trust government promises. We're still waiting for that mule they promised they they they they they they they they they promised they promised they promised they promised they promised they promised they promised they promised they they too long to trust government promises. We're still waiting for that mule they promised us back in 1865. If you want me to trust them now, first they've got to pay up on that mule. Wait, you really want the 40 acres in a mule?
Starting point is 00:11:16 No, I don't want the 40 acres because I know these white people. They're gonna give me a landfill in Idaho or Utah or some shit, and they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they shit and then they'll make me pay taxes on it. Trevor, do you know you have to pay taxes every year? No wonder what's these things going to jail? Okay, so if you don't want the 40 acres, then I don't understand why would you want the mule? Why wouldn't I want a mule? It can carry my groceries, I can open a petting zoo.. I, I, I, I will be jealous. I've got a pet that they don't have. I can dress it up in costumes.
Starting point is 00:11:47 I can post pictures of it on Instagram. Oh, I can even bring it on planes. Oh, white people are going to be so thirsty for my mule. Mm, the jealousy. Oh, that'll be the real reparation. Right, but do you say you live in an apartment, the their their, their, their, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, thin, toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. I can't th. Where's the mule gonna live? That's the mule's problem. All I know is I'm gonna name them Fluffles and I'm gonna teach them to bite Karen. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:12:11 Yeah, call the cops on me now with Fluffles champing on your ass, Karen. Ha! Listen, anyway, I gotta go run a moving to Asheville, you know, home or reparations. Asheville, you better have my money. Fluffles, I'm coming, baby. All right, good luck with that, Dulce. D'Osela, everybody. We have to take a quick break, but when we come back, we're gonna be checking in with how other countries
Starting point is 00:12:36 are dealing with the coronavirus right now. Stick around. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes, A Second Look,
Starting point is 00:13:06 starting September 17th, wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show. The United States continues to be overwhelmed by the coronavirus. But how are other countries handling this global pandemic? Well, let's find out in our ongoing segment, Keeping Up with Corona, International Edition. Let's start our world tour in Russia, the artist formerly known as the Soviet Union.
Starting point is 00:13:40 Everyone around the world is trying to find a COVID-19 vaccine, but Russia may have found a competitive edge. This is CNN breaking news. And we start with breaking news coming into CNN. The US, Canada and the United Kingdom have accused Russia of carrying out cyber attacks on several coronavirus research centers. The three governments believe the aim was to steal information about vaccine development. That's right, people.
Starting point is 00:14:10 Russia is trying to hack its way to a vaccine. And honestly, I want Russia to steal the vaccine. Yeah, I said it, because I'll be honest. Based on how good they are at poisoning people, they're going to be really good at making sure everyone is vaccinated. You won't even have to go to a doctor. You just have to bump into a guy on a bridge with an umbrella and it'll be over before you know it.
Starting point is 00:14:32 Also, is it that bad if they steal the desert will drink Dasani. We don't have choices. I'm just surprised Russia try to hack America for the solution. I mean the US is handling Corona worse than any other country. This is like cheating off the kid who spends the whole class drawing dicks on their desk. So answer number three is Flesid business? Moving on to Japan. The country that always knew shaking hands was a bad idea. The Asian superpower has been doing a good job fighting the virus, and they're starting to reopen the country, but they're being very, very careful about it. At Fuji Q Highland Amusement Park outside Tokyo.
Starting point is 00:15:22 These are two of the park's executives stoically riding Fuji Q's biggest coaster Fujiyama while displaying proper etiquette for their no-screaming rule implemented apparently to prevent the spread of coronavirus. Fuji Q said it received complaints the rule was too strict so the fun park released this video to prove it can be done. The two men as you see one wearing a full suit and tie do not change their expressions can be done. The two men, as you see, one wearing a full suit and tie, do not change their expressions for the entirety of the four-minute thrill ride. The video then concludes with this philosophical piece of advice, quote, please scream inside your
Starting point is 00:15:57 heart. That's right. Scream inside your heart. As the same advice Dr. Fauci tells himself before every press conference. It's a really hard thing to not scream at an amusement park. And it's going to be extra-hard at Disney World, because people there scream every time they see how much a hot dog costs. What? I paid what? And I guess one person who will never be able to write roller coasters in Japan is my best friend Olisa because this is a clip from us riding a roller coaster before coronavirus. I miss human beings. Next up, let's go to Barbados, a beautiful Caribbean country and the world's number one
Starting point is 00:16:55 exporter of Rihanna. Due to COVID-19 shutting down the tourism industry, Barbados is now trying to turn the global lockdowns to its advantage. Ever dreamed of living on an island paradise that could be a reality for you? Remote working is the new normal and Barbados wants to turn its beaches adjacent to the crystal blue water into your new outdoor office. The Caribbean country is going to introduce a 12-month Barbados Welcome Stamp Program, which would allow visitors from overseas to stay for an entire year and work remotely.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Barbados officials are hoping it could help jumpstart the island's economy. Okay, Barbados. This sounds like a pretty awesome deal. And there's no catch. I mean, it's not like Barbados is an island or something, and you have to get in an Uber to go to the airport, to get on an airplane and maybe catch coronavirus ten times before you even set foot on the beach. I mean, I'm not going to lie.
Starting point is 00:17:54 This is tempting, but getting to Barbados could be risky. You know, I'm just going to have to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to barbados inside to bar barbatoeos inside to Barbados inside my heart. Now, on the other hand, maybe this is the perfect idea. Because if Corona does get worse and you're in the Caribbean, hearing that music on the steel drums is going to make things sound better. Because it is impossible to be sad when a steel drum is playing. Even Dr. Fauci's warnings would sound happier with a steel drum in the background. It's a very difficult situation as was predicted. This is going to get worse before it gets better,
Starting point is 00:18:30 for sure. That's right, guys. We're all going to die. And finally, the coronavirus pandemic has been especially difficult for the world's authoritarian dictators. They have to fight a very real disease, while also pretending that nothing in their country is ever wrong. But the Central Asian dictatorship of Turkmenistan has found a solution. As serious as the global situation is, one country claims to have COVID-19 completely under control. Former Soviet Republic Turkmenistan sits
Starting point is 00:19:05 right beside Iran, which has reported more than 260,000 infections, but Turkmenistan says it has zero cases. Pretty unbelievable. Yet a week after a visit from the World Health Organization, the authoritarian government has now strongly recommended its people wear masks, but the reason given to protect them from dust. Hmm. I feel like we don't really have the full story of what's happening in Turkmenistan. Because this sounds like the family who sends out a Christmas newsletter, talking about how perfect everyone's lives are, and then at the very end,
Starting point is 00:19:40 they casually mentioned that Bobby's been granted parole. What? Honestly, I thi that th th th th th th th th th th th th thu thu thu thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi their thi thi, I thi, I their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their, their their, their, their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. theooi. I'm thooo-s. tho-s. tho-s'eo-s'eo-s.auo-s. tho-s. tho-s. tho-s. th been granted parole. What? Honestly, I think that this dust excuse is actually more embarrassing than just saying you have coronavirus. Don't worry, we don't have disease here. We just have very dusty country because we don't own a vacuum cleaner. But if you think this dust excuse is ridiculous, wait until you see the public service announcement released by Turkmenistan's health ministry. Greetings from the Turkmenistan Health Department.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Now that you're all wearing masks to protect yourselves from our very non-contaegious Turkmenistan dust, here are some other tips for staying safe in our very healthy country where there's no coronavirus at all. Stay six feet apart at all times, to properly admire the beauty of the Turkmenistan people. All non-essential businesses will be closed indefinitely because our glorious people deserve a vacation. Vacation must be taken inside your home.
Starting point is 00:20:40 If you experience difficulty breathing, go to the hospital immediately. So doctors can assure you that you're breathing just fine, but in like a new special Turkmenistan way. And finally, if you see anyone coughing, just give them a smile and report them to the Ministry of Non-Coronovirus Affairs. Stay safe, but there's no reason to. We totally made that video. All right, don't go away, because after the break, we'll be talking with an ER doctor who
Starting point is 00:21:12 has a close-up view of the COVID pandemic, and then I'll catch up with Pat and Oswald. Don't go away. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes, a second look, starting September 17th,
Starting point is 00:21:47 wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show. Earlier today, I spoke with emergency room physician Michelle Harper. We talked about being on the front lines of the coronavirus pandemic, and her new memoir, The Beauty in Breaking. Dr. Harper, welcome to the coronavirus pandemic, and her new memoir, The Beauty in Breaking. Dr. Harper, welcome to the Daily Social Distancing Show. Thank you, it's a pleasure to be here. Let's start with congratulating you on your success.
Starting point is 00:22:14 You are now not just Dr. Harper, you also Dr. Harper, New York Times bestselling author. How does it feel? It feels amazing. It's surreal. I'm still getting used to it, so, but it's lovely. Thank you. I think what I appreciate about it the most is the fact that it's not just that you're a best-selling author, it's that it's a book that deserves to be read. Tell me a little bit about what it's been like, being a doctor on the front lines of the worst pandemic arguably that human. And so I the worst the worst the worst the worst the worst the worst the worst the worst the worst the worst the worst the worst the worst the worst the worst the worst the worst the worst the worst the worst the worst the worst the worst the worst the worst the worst the worst the worst the worst the worst th. th. theck. theck. theat's the, the, the, the, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I is is thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the is theat theat throoooo thean thean thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. theat thea. the has ever seen. And so I'm in New Jersey, that's where I practice clinically. So it's been a little bit of a roller coaster. I
Starting point is 00:22:49 mean six weeks ago maybe it was it was what we're seeing in the South where there's a delus of patients. We don't have enough equipment, we still don't have enough equipment, we don't have enough staff. People are people were getting sick. It was not only us getting sick and the patients getting sick, but I was taking care of health care providers from my region and other regions, like the technician who came in and he kept apologizing because he was feeling terrible, he couldn't breathe, his resting heart rate was high, his resting oxygen was low, and he's apologizing because his phone is blowing up because his boss is calling him, telling him to get back to work, and they know he's sick, they're all getting sick, but they don't
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Starting point is 00:25:11 And then, of course, I work with many people who, they have families. I know many health care providers, whatever is saying is true, I know many health care providers who don't go home. They're staying in hotels. They're staying with a single friend where they can be in a basement apartment. So their whole lives are being turned upside down in the midst of this. You also talk extensively about the disparities between hospitals in underserved communities,
Starting point is 00:25:36 in poorer communities and communities of color, versus hospitals in wealthier or affluent neighborhoods. That's been difficult for some people to understand because I've seen newspapers or people who choose and they go, I've been to this hospital, everything seems fine. And yet there are health care professionals saying yes, because the load is being unfairly borne by certain communities
Starting point is 00:25:57 where there is a disproportionate amount of people getting extremely sick from this disease. What is it like working in a community hospital or a hospital in a community where people do not have the means and the hospital doesn't have the means? What it's like is heartbreaking. I mean, I personally, I prefer to work in communities
Starting point is 00:26:17 that are inner city, largely black and brown and lower resource financially, because I go where the need is. And so what I'm seeing is that the people being most affected are the essential workers. And we know that in these communities, essential workers are the people who are working in mail delivery, store clerks. These are people who can't not work. We need them to be working and they can't afford to not work. They don't have the kind of jobs that they can perform from home.
Starting point is 00:26:53 So they're at greatest risk. They're at greatest risk of infection, greatest risk of abuse. I mean, I took care of a young woman, maybe around 19 years old, who came in because she didn't know if she wanted to live anymore. She already was pretty isolated, didn't have any support from family or friends. Now in further isolation from coronavirus, working in a job where the customers coming in were abusive to her, where she was being harassed by her boss, and she didn't know where else to go. She needed someone to talk to. And we just spoke, and I listened to her, where she was being harassed by her boss, and she didn't know where else to go. She needed someone to talk to. And we just spoke, and I listened to her, and I told her that what she's feeling is real and we're all feeling it. And I asked her if there was anything
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Starting point is 00:28:15 They don't have the same training we do. And they don't have any equipment at all. So that's what I'm seeing. I also want to mention that of course I'm seeing nursing home patients being affected more, but also the prisoners. And this is particularly heinous to me because they can't make their own decisions. They can't say, guess what? Today I want to go to the emergency department.
Starting point is 00:28:42 And I've seen so many of them when they come in and they can't breathe and they're just about to be intubated or maybe we can stave it off with other therapies. And they're terrified and many of them were young and healthy. And they tell me over and over again how they wanted to come in, but they were to it when the next vehicle was ready to take them and it could be days. So those are some of the disparities that COVID is really laying bare for us all to reckon with. Well, I'll tell you this, Doc, if I could wave a magic wand, everyone will read your book, especially the people who don't think this is real or don't, you know, take it as seriously
Starting point is 00:29:22 as they should. Thank you so much for the work the work tha seriously as they should. Thank you so much for your time, and thank you for the work that you're doing in the hospitals every single day. Thank you. It's a pleasure being here. Pleasure was mine. Thank you, Dr. Hopper. After the break, I'll be speaking to the one-and-only Patten Oswald. You don't want was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television.
Starting point is 00:29:49 Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes, a second look, starting September 17th, wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show. My next guest is the legendary comedian and actor Pat N. Oswald. We talked about his latest project, the HBO docu series about the Golden State Killer called,
Starting point is 00:30:24 I'll Be Gone in the Dark, which is based on the investigative work and book by his late wife, Michelle McNamara. Check it out. What drives me is the need to put a face on a unknown killer. And what I love is this intersection of sort of technology and crime solving in that people can get sort of wheeled out of their house for something they did in 1957 because of the internet, because of DNA. I really get off on that.
Starting point is 00:30:56 Pat and Oswald, welcome to the daily social distancing show. Trevor Noah, thank you for having me on from afar. Before we get into the docuse series and really one of the most amazing stories ever told, how are you, how are you doing? Because you, you're a parent, are you homeschooling, are you living? What is happening right now? We are trying to do a combination of homeschooling and and living. I think what you find out very, very quickly as a parent, no matter what you do, education is not fun. When kids hit a street, they want a summer, they deserve just kind of daydreaming non-structured time. And when you're trying to do that sneaky, let's make math fun by playing poker.
Starting point is 00:31:41 They, it's like, oh my god, I'm going to ruin poker for this. Like, I don't, I just, I want them to have a summer. I don't want to, you know, make, somehow tie swimming in with American history. This docu series, it's truly one of the most interesting shows I have ever watched based on one of the most interestingicable stories that I think you know humans can ever consume created and I mean people have credited your late wife with this work. Tell me about the docu series like like what are you trying to do that's different to the book and what story are you trying to tell? Well what we're especially what Liz Garvis, the director who's an incredible documentary in this six-part documentary what she's doing is taking a lot a a a a the the the the the the their th. their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi. People, thi. I I I thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. the. the. the. theeei. thei. thei. theiiiiiiii. tei. tei. tea. telle. the. People the. People th six-part documentary, what she's doing is taking a lot of the stories of especially the victims and the detectives and expanding them.
Starting point is 00:32:31 I mean, Michelle delved pretty deeply into those in the book, but what Liz is trying to show is the aftermath, the resilience, and especially the bounce back of a lot of these victims and survivors of this killer, and of this insect basically. And, you know, it really feels amazing. There's a point where they talk about how they've gone to every one of his arraignments and they just stare at him and he cannot meet their gaze. He can't lift his head and look at them. And it's just this, seeing this guy reduced in a way he never wanted to be seen, it feels like justice.
Starting point is 00:33:05 And from everything I've heard from the different law enforcement officials that I'm talking to, he's absolutely faking the need for the wheelchair, the being frail. He's trying to garner sympathy and people are just like staring right at him with no, with zero empathy and it's shrinking him even further. And anytime victims or survivors can be afforded that opportunity, I think it's very important. You know what's really tough in society is watching stories like this, but they're not being terrified by these stories as if they are the norm, you know, because they are exceptionally horrifying but they are still exceptional in that it's not everybody. So when when this show is being put toge to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to still exceptional in that they it's not everybody. So when this show is being put together, is it a story that's being told like it could
Starting point is 00:33:49 happen to you or did you guys make a conscious effort to tell a story that that is like, man, it's crazy that this can happen, you know, but luckily it's not happening to everybody. A couple of things that we emphasize were, no, this is not happening to everyone's serial killers are a very rare, very twisted, sad group of people. But what we also, especially this is what Michelle kind of focused on in her book and Liz really, I thought, brought into even bigger focus is there was a certain way that women and especially women who had been raped and assaulted were treated and thought of in the 70s that we have, we've done a lot of progression on, we still have a long way to go, but when you see how a lot of them were treated, they kind of subconsciously had it in them that they were partially at fault for this. And so there's something very, uh, it's very frightening to think that in the so-in so, in those so, in so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, th, th, the so, th, the so, th, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, it's very frightening to think
Starting point is 00:34:45 that in those so-called liberated progressive times, things were so medieval in a lot of ways. And it's good to see the progress we've made away from it. You know, your late wife was credited with putting so many of the pieces together, really guiding law enforcement and the public at large to focus on the facts that help get this killer court. You wrote in my opinion one of the most beautiful love letters that I've ever heard or seen from a human to another human being.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Surely on a personal level delving into this work, like it must make you proud, it must make you, it must bring you joy and sadness at the same time. What has this journey been like for you? I mean, it's a combination of, you know, the sadness will never totally be gone, but it does feel really good to know that amongst all that tragedy, Michelle left behind dozens of portraits of strength and resilience and adaptation, men and women that hopefully other, you know, potential crime, threats, that, that, you that, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you tho, you tho, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you adaptation, men and women, that hopefully other potential crime solvers and other, and I hope there's not a lot of them, but other victims and survivors can look at as a lifeline or as a piece of wreckage to cling on
Starting point is 00:35:57 to in the storm. Yeah, it truly is one of the most amazing pieces of work I've had the chance to see and I hope everybody watches it Congratulations to you congratulations to the team for putting it together and of course thank you to your late wife for for making this what it is Hopefully the next time I see you will be back on stage performing for human beings in person My god, please something. It's just it's just listen. I don't want to blow too much smoke up your ass, but after we? to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. the th. th. the the the the the?? the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. they. they. the??? they. the. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. te. t. 't want to blow too much smoke up your ass, but after we watch the news every night, then we DVR you and my wife is like, okay, a little dessert, like a little relief. So just thank you. So just thank you. I don't know how you, you and your writers face all this madness every day and go, let's let's put on a show, but you do.
Starting point is 00:36:42 Thank you very much and I know you don't like it but I think there's a great business opportunity in swimming American history you should patent that and we can make a lot of money trust me on this one let's let's talk about that off the air we'll talk about off the air the air patent thank you so much my t Thank you, Trevor. Thank you. Thank you so much again, Patton. Well, that's our show for tonight. But before we go, America is facing a nationwide poll worker shortage. And it's because most poll workers are over 60, and COVID is still in the air, and so understandably, they're not showing up.
Starting point is 00:37:18 But fewer poll workers means fewer polling stations are open, and it means there's there's there lines, and not everyone can afford to stay and wait in those long lines, especially in communities of color. But the good news is, most poll working is paid. And in some states, you can be as young as 16 to do it. So if you're interested, and you have the time, this is your chance to save your granny, protect democracy, and get paid. Until next week, stay safe out there.
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