The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Lawyer Objects to Black Pastors - Ai Weiwei

Episode Date: November 17, 2021

A racially charged complaint rocks the Ahmaud Arbery murder trial, Ronny Chieng debates passersby about Thanksgiving, and Ai Weiwei discusses "1000 Years of Joys and Sorrows." Learn more about your a...d-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:14 It's the Daily Show. Here's a day show. Thanksgiving is wrong. And I weigh way. This is the Daily Show with Trevor Noah. Hey, what's going on everybody? Welcome to the Daily Show. I'm Trevor Noah and joining me for today's headlines is my good friend, Dulce Sloan. What's going on, Dulce? Hey, man, I'm still above the ground, baby. I like that.
Starting point is 00:03:41 That's like, you know, before we used to say that just as a saying, but now it's like a real thing. You're really above the ground. Truly. I mean, like, I don't know how high we are, but we're not supposed to be up here. We shouldn't. Like planes? Well, I mean, what? Good to have you. Thank you. All right, let's jump straight into today's headlines. Let's kick things off with a surprising new side effect of COVID-19 and this isn't a physical side effect like shortness of breath or loss of smell or mask ears where the elastic loops make me look like Obama's secret son. No, this is a side effect of how COVID has become a political football,
Starting point is 00:04:21 as Americans call it, a political soccer. But yeah basically it turns out that once conservatives got angry about having to protect themselves from one disease, they decided to do it with other diseases as a matter of general principle. New polls out suggest Republicans much less likely to get a flu shot now than they were before the COVID pandemic. Several national polls say there was not much difference between the number of Republicans and Democrats getting a flu shot in the years before the coronavirus pandemic. However, Business Insider is reporting there's now a 20% gap between the members of the two
Starting point is 00:04:57 political parties. About two-thirds of Democrats say they have or planned to get a flu vaccination, while for Republicans that number or plan to get a flu vaccination, while for Republicans that number is less than 50%. Researchers say that indicates the political battle over the COVID vaccine is now affecting flu shots as well. Yeah, that's right. Many Republicans have turned against the COVID vaccine so hard that now they're turning against the flu shots. And look, with the COVID vaccine, I get it, I get it. It was new, people didn't trust the technology, but guys, the flu shot has been around since forever.
Starting point is 00:05:32 You can't decide now to hate it. It would be like if everyone suddenly decided to hate it. I mean, we were all cool with her for 140 years, what changed. And if you ask me, this is this decision because people who don't get the flu shot spread the infection to everyone. They sneeze into the air that we breathe. They grab the doorknobs that we grab. They touch the subway poles that the rest of us lick. It's disgusting. That's why I'm getting my flu shot for sure. Although I'm going to space it out from my COVID-in' tooof-in. I. I. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I'm th, I'm the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th, th, their, th, their, their, their their their their their the, the, theaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseasease, their, their, their, the, two shots close to each other. Otherwise, they're both gonna be there in my body at the same time. They might start a turf war. She starts popping off in my pancreas.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Now it's at the crossfire. I don't want that shit. You know, trying to keep it safe in my body. It just really feels like we're moving to 40% of Republicans are now floating off into space. And now Dulce over to you in the weather. It's not as warm as it should be because I gotta wear a coat and put my toes away and I don't appreciate it. I'm a summertime beach. This COVID flu thing is wild. Well, the only good thing about this is now if we don't want them to do things,
Starting point is 00:06:48 we can just threaten to vaccinate them. What do you mean? Like if they try to storm the Capitol again, just be a bunch of cops running around with their teauls. their Ah! Like now you just got cops running around with needles. Just a bunch of rogue nurses out here trying to help the, like just trying to help the government. I think you've just stumbled upon the next wave of American law enforcement.
Starting point is 00:07:13 This is actually pretty good. Get him. All right, let's move on. Let's move on from the war on science to make things much more dangerous up there than it needs to be. Now to a conflict in space, the U.S. is slamming Russia for carrying out a missile test that created a serious amount of dangerous space debris, which could remain in orbit for decades, threatening space travel even. This morning, outrage from U.S. officials after Russia carried out a missile test early
Starting point is 00:07:46 Monday, firing an anti-satellite missile into space, obliterating one of its own satellites and creating a vast debris field that's now orbiting Earth. Some of that debris coming dangerously close to the International Space Station, which is currently carrying four U.S. astronauts. The crew sheltering for more than two hours until they were finally giving the green light. Secretary of State Anthony Blanken slamming the Russian missile test,
Starting point is 00:08:12 calling it dangerous and irresponsible, and adding that the debris will remain a threat for decades. Yeah, Russia blew up a satellite with a rocket. And guys, I keep saying this, but these gender reveals are getting out of hand. But for real, though, I don't understand why Russia blew up their own satellites. I mean, maybe it was announcing that it was running against Putin, who knows, but there's got to be a better way to do this. I mean, if you want to get rid of something, you big free sign on it, you know? But people blowing it up so it sends lethal debris shooting around in orbit.
Starting point is 00:08:48 That's unacceptable, guys. And if you ask me, someone needs to stand up to Russia. Like maybe America should start some sort of force to like defend space, you know. What's that? Oh, it did. Ah, and I called it the most pointless thing since Trump created Don Jr.? Nah, that doesn't sound like me. All right, thank you, thank you. Well, look, man, this is one thing I love about America. America would never launch a missile at a satellite.
Starting point is 00:09:18 I mean, they tried, but it accidentally hit a siretaheatin but the point is, they didn't hit the satellites. All right, let's move on to a threat that is closer to Earth. Vigilante, white dudes. Bo! Yesterday, the arguments at the Kyle Rittenhouse trial wrapped up, and now the jury has to decide whether he'll go to prison or become Trump's running mate in 2024. Meanwhile, down in Georgia, they've begun, their. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. their. thi. thrown. I. I. thranteen, thrante. the the thranteen, tooan. thi. thiolan. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. toe. toe. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. tode. tode. toda. toda. toda. today. today. toda. toda. toda. toda. toda. toda. toda. today. today. today. today. today. today murder trial for the three men charged with chasing down and killing Armad Arbory last year. Now, for obvious reasons, this trial is getting a lot of national attention. But the lawyer, for one of the defendants, well, he seems to have a big problem with who is paying
Starting point is 00:09:55 attention. An explosive morning in the trial of the three men accused of murdering Amon Arbore, with a still smoldering racially charged debate spurred on by defense attorneys over black pastors in the courtroom. Defense Attorney Kevin Gov objecting to Reverend Jesse Jackson's presence in the gallery. How many pastors does our very family have? We had the Reverend Al Sharpton here earlier last week. Which pastor is next? Is Raphael Warnock going to make it be the next person appearing this afternoon? We don't know. With all due respect, your honor, the seats in the public gallery of a courtroom are not like court-side seats in a Lakers game. Hmm. All right, first of all, of course this trial is not like a Lakers game.
Starting point is 00:10:37 All right, the jury has 11 white people and only one black guy. That's basically the opposite of any basketball team. And theen. And tha tha. And th. And th. And th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. Is is is th. Is. Is th. Is thi. Is thi. Is thi. Is thi. Is thea. Is thea. thea. I's tea. I's tea. I's tri. I's tea. I's tria. I's tea. I's th. I's th. I's th. It's basically the opposite of any basketball team. And secondly, I'm not saying that this guy is racist, but when you're representing a guy who killed a black man just for jogging in the wrong neighborhood, it's not a great look to be pointing into the gallery and going, hey, this black guy doesn't belong here. We should do something about that. Come on, Jasper, you want to do it again? And thirdly, black pastors have been supporting families in need from the beginning of time. Why you shocked by this? They show up for everything,
Starting point is 00:11:11 whether it's kids killed in gang violence, or whether it's a civil rights issue. It doesn't matter what it is. They'll show up. Hell if you need them, they'll even show up for emotional support at your kid's spelling bee. Lord Jesus, please show this dumb little kid how to spell platypus his family's been through enough. Amen and amen. What I'm confused about, listen, I grew up in Georgia. Everybody is a pastor.
Starting point is 00:11:36 What are you talking about that you don't want pastors here? Everybody Georgia is a pastor. Also, how am I supposed to trust a sout? a southern white man that don't want the Lord Lord the Lord the Lord the Lord the Lord the Lord Lord Lord Lord Lord Lord Lord Lord Lord Lord Lord Lord Lord Lord Lord Lord Lord Lord Lord Lord the Lord the Lord to the Lord the Lord the Lord to to to the Lord to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their. their. their. their. their. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thoooooooooooome.m. their their their their their a pastor. Also, how am I supposed to trust a southern white man that don't want the Lord in the room? You don't want one of God's servants. Yeah, you're right. I don't get it. It'd be different if like Jesse Jackson's in there taking up a collection for a building fund. So they're not taking up a collection. It's not like they're in there preaching. So you're saying it could have been worse? It could have been way worse. They could have brought a whole choir in there with them. Because if I'm a black pastor coming to that trial, I'm bringing in a whole crial, I'm bringing in a whole choir in, I'm bringing in a whole choir, I'm bringing tell your neighbor and say, neighbor, neighbor, this man is guilty.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Woo, yeah. I would start a sermon every time I walked into place. They're just sitting there being quiet. It's a, he said it's a public gallery. Yes. They are the public. Anybody can show up. You can go.
Starting point is 00:12:44 All right, and finally yesterday President Biden held a ceremony on the White House lawn along with Democrats and Republicans from Congress and they were doing this to finally sign his big infrastructure bill and guys I really am confused about why they have to sign the bill in public. I mean I know it's important legislation but as a spectator sport it's pretty boring you know like where's the drama you know? the the drama you know oh, oh maybe the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the president, the president, the president, the president, the president, the president, the president, I the president, the president, the president, the president the president the president the president, the president, the president, the president, the president, the president, the president, the president, the president, the president, the president, the president, the president, the president, the president, the president, the president, the president, the president, the president, the president, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the president, the the the the the president, the president, the president, the president, the president, the president, the president, the president, the president, the president, the the the the have to sign the bill in public. I mean, I know it's important legislation, but as a spectator sport, it's pretty boring, you know, like, where's the drama? You know, ooh, maybe the pen will run out of ink? Fn't out of here, man.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Also, why are they even having a bill signing celebration? Passing laws is their job. Nobody else gets to do that at the office, you don't get to post for pictures while shaking hands. I didn't think you could get it double-sided. Well done, Billy. Well done. But look, I do get why lawmakers are excited about this. It's the biggest investment America has made in itself in decades. And there's also some smaller things in this bill that might do a lot of good.
Starting point is 00:13:37 How to stop drunk drivers before they they they they they they they they they they they they they they the their their their their their their the car into gear. It has been talked about for decades. But now, thanks to the infrastructure bill passed by Congress last week, it could finally happen. It includes a mandate for automakers that all new cars must use technology that prevents drunken people from driving. It will be as standard as airbags. The U.S. Transportation Department will decide the type of technology that will be required. Its estimated 9,400 lives will be saved every year. The drunk or otherwise impaired driver will get in their car and it either won't start, won't move, or will pull itself over depending on what technology is selected. The sober driver will get in their car and never even know it's there.
Starting point is 00:14:19 All right, I think we can all agree. This is an amazing law. First of all, because it will hopefully save lives, and secondly, because some people will be so drunk, they won't even know that the car hasn't started. You realize that, right? He's going to get it and be like, brum, brum, brum. Get out of the way! All right, I'm home now. My home looks just like the bar.
Starting point is 00:14:39 All right, it's time for round two. And I know some people are asking, how will they develop technology to determine if someone is drunk? What does that mean? Guys, we already have that technology. It's called a karaoke machine. No, but for real, no one is sure what technology they'll actually use to detect if you're drunk driving.
Starting point is 00:14:57 It could be something that tracks if your eyes stay open or if you're swerving out of your lane or if you're just trying to get to a Taco Bell I just hope it's not a breathalyzer that's the one thing I hope I don't want a breathalyzer hook to the dashboard because I'm sorry I'm not trying to give my car every time I want to go somewhere I want to save that for special occasions you know like our anniversary or a Toyota tho. there th th th tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho there is there is there is there is there is there is there is there is there is there is there is there is there is there is there is there is there is there is tho tho tho tho tho tho thor thor thor thor thor thor thor thor thor thor thor thor thor tho tho tho their is one is one is one is one is one is one is one is one is one is one is one is one is one is one is one is one is one is one is one is one is one is one is one is one is one is one is one is one is one is one is one is one is one is one is one is one is one is one is one is one tho. There is one is one tho. There is one is one tho. There is one tho. There is one tho. tho. tho. There is one tho. tho. tho. There is one tho. There is one tho. There is one is one though. And that is, it only needs to be available in new cars. Yeah. I mean, that's still good, but it means if someone really likes drunk driving, all they've got to do is drive an old car. In fact, at some point, we're probably going to be able to tell who's committed
Starting point is 00:15:38 to drunk driving, thrown, thrown. And they'll still be driving a Kia Krento from 2005. Yeah, you just can't give this baby up, man. You know me, I love vintage cars. Yeah. Just have better friends. Like, having something, like, you've never had to take your key, like your friend's keys before. I mean, I know you have very classy, very, you know, sophisticated, you know, I know, I'm that's that's that's, I'm, I'm, that's, that's, that, that's, that's, that's, that, that, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, thi. thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thin, th. th to to to to to to to toe toe toe toe toe toe toe toe toe toe toe th th th th th thin, th what, that's an interesting point. So you're saying the best technology is friends.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Yes! Like the number of times I have stopped somebody from driving home, also we have Uber, we have Lyft, we have Tesla. Like you can just send somebody a Tesla, put in the address, you even got to drive the car. Like, get every bar a Tesla. You can put in the address.. th and just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just, their their they they they they they they they they they th. th. thi, I thi, I their thi, you can't even thi, thi, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their they they they they they they they are they are they they they they're they're they're they're they're just. they're just. they're just. th. th. th. th. thi. th. the. th. the. th. th. th. the. th. the. th. the. their their their, and then just sitting they drunk asshom. Also people are just assholes.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Like, I don't even think it's, they just want to have a good time, friend. Because like, this is when we need these carers to activate. You out here calling a cops on somebody in a damn Victoria secret. No, bitch, you need to be out here at this buffalo wild wings, getting your uncle and thirty, their their their their their, their, their, their, their, thu, thu, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, they thi, they just just just they just they just they just they're just thus, thi, thi, I just thi, I just they're just they're just they're just they're just they're just just they're just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just, I I I I I th. I th. I I th. I I th. I th. I, th. I th. I, th. I's, I's, I's, I's thi, I just just just thi, I'm just thi, I'm just thin, I'm just thin, I'm just thi. I'm just thiuiu-a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a, I That's the new technology. Yeah, like activate these carrins. Look, they out here, we just need to release them, like, just, you know, frumpy doves and like, really just help people. We just aim Kerens in the right direction. Yes, like y'all stay wanting to call the cops on somebody. So instead, this is a big victory, their to call call thoomk, tho, tho, tho, tho, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thrump, thrump, thrump, thrump, thrump, thrump, thrump, thrump, thrump, their, thrump, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, the, the, thrump, thrump, thrump, thrump, thrump, thrump, thrump, thrump, thrump, thrump, thrump, thru, thru, thru. thru. thru. thru. thru. thrump, thru. thrump, really, thru. And, really, really, the parking lot. Yeah, but still, this is a big victory. It's a big victory for safe driving and for organizations like mothers against drunk driving. Unfortunately, though, it has generated some criticism from the opposing side.
Starting point is 00:17:15 In response to recent legislation, drunks for drunk driving is issued the following statement. Oh, man, we don't need our cars telling us when we're allowed to drive. You a car, bitch hush. Hey asshole, this is some nanny state bullshit, okay? Don't try it on me, just you can't handle your drink. Hmm? We just got to be cool about this, baby. tolerance is all over the place. Like me, you know me, baby, after a couple of drinks, I'm fine to die.
Starting point is 00:17:45 Dream, drive. Got it. This law, man. Phof. Hey, did you see that video of that dog? You know the one he's got glasses on? It's so funny. He's like furry and brown.
Starting point is 00:17:57 Well, hang on. Let me show you. My car tells me I can't drive, I'm gonna f- I'm gonna f-dick it up. Yeah, I'll fight a car, because this is America. If you know you're drunk, you drive better, but I'm not... Drunk. Drunk? How's a car gonna know if I'm drunk? Huh?
Starting point is 00:18:17 Some kind of Night Rider car? Some kind of David Hassahoff? Oh, God, I miss that show. And I miss Jeremy. Let's go. I got my keys. Oh, I got it. Oh.
Starting point is 00:18:31 What? No, no, I can drive. I'm good. I'm good. I just had a power nap. How did I get here? I am responsible, Jeremy! Take me back. This has been a message from DFDD.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Take us back, Jeremy. All right, when we come back, Ronnie Chang fights with you about Thanksgiving. You don't want to miss it. Finding great candidates to hire can be like trying to find a needle in a haystack. You might get a lot of resumes, but not enough candidates with the right skills or experience. But not with Zip Recruiter. Zip Recruiter finds amazing candidates for you fast. And right now you can try it for free your job, zip recruiters powerful matching technology starts showing you qualified people for it.
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Starting point is 00:19:59 When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. You're rolling? But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible.
Starting point is 00:20:18 I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 minutes, a second look on Apple podcasts starting September 17. Welcome back to the Daily Show. There is so much arguing in America today, but we here at the Daily Show, but we think that there could be even more. So to do our part, here's Ronnie Chang with another installment of Prove Me Wrong. Thanksgiving is coming. And everyone's arguing about CDC guidelines or pilgrims being problematic. But what about the non-political Thanksgiving issues?
Starting point is 00:20:53 For those, I'm here to argue with random strangers on the street, and prove me wrong. Thanksgiving edition. Thanksgiving edition. Thanksgiving is the worst holiday. I said it. I said it. No. Why? No.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Family, no. Family, why? It's being grateful. It's aloof. It's all great. their thea. their pealing vegetables with family. We do together.
Starting point is 00:21:21 We're peeling vegetables. That's a big argument. It's not the worst holiday, because Columbus Day is a holiday. So there are worse. Wait, so you actually genuinely have a good time at Thanksgiving? I do have a great time. Just how much weed do you guys smoke during Thanksgiving to get through it? Dependent's day.
Starting point is 00:21:35 It depends how much extended family is there. So what is the city. St. Patrick's Day is amazing, because on Thanksgiving people get mad if you get blackout drunk. You gotta travel, which is terrible in Thanksgiving. Because it's true. Well, okay. Haven't you heard of Zoom? Oh man, after two years of zooming on my day off with my family. That sounds amazing. It's supposed to be one peaceful day about being thankful, you know, being thankful for like your family. Did you not receive love as a child? Yeah, that's another thing to bring up with family during the holidays. Whether we receive enough love as a child. Did you?
Starting point is 00:22:18 Yo, this is starting to feel a little bit like therapy. Okay, so just so you know I'm not paying you for this. All shoes should have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have the the to have the to have to have to have the the to have to feel the to feel the to feel to feel the the the to feel the their their to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel th. their love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love. their love. their love. their love. to feel. to feel. to feel. to feel. to feel. to feel. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. the. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. know I'm not paying you for this. All shoes should have buckles prove me wrong. I think shoes should just you know not have buckles or laces or well let's look at what the fuck you're wearing. Wait are you wearing dress crooks? Look pilgrims got a lot of stuff wrong. Genocide not not great Turkey could pick a better animal to eat but buckles do they nailed it first time boom. Okay buckles aren't appropriate for every occasion like to to to to to the the the the the the the tha. tha. tha. the tha. tha. the ca. the c. the c. the c. the c. the c. theckles theckles their c. I the. I theckles theckles their c. I their c. I their c. I their c. I their c. I their c. I their c. I their c. I their just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just their their their their their their th. th. th. I the. I the. I the. I'm the c. I'm theck. I'm theck. I'm. I'm. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm like. I'm not. I'm not theck. I'm theck. I'm not theck. I'm they nailed it first time boom okay buckles aren't appropriate for every occasion like what if you're gonna hit the beach you got to pop on some flip-flop toggrooms landed on a beach with buckles but don't you want your feet to
Starting point is 00:22:57 like breathe be open I don't need people's feet to breathe I'm not Quinton Tarantino they'll make shoes more expensive sure but isn't part of the appeal of footwear that they they they they they they they they they they they they are they they they they they they are they are they are they they they they they that that that that that that that that that that that that that that's that's that's th. that's that's th. th. No th. No th. No that's that's th. I th. I th. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi shoes more expensive. Sure, but isn't part of the appeal of footwear that they are expensive as fuck? That's Nike built a goddamn empire base of that. But speaking of Nike, a lot of shoes they sell come with a Velcrofts, not buckles. Yeah. I feel like that's more convenient. If you're a goddam child, get some Velcro. But if you're an adult, put it on a buckle, like an adult. Pumpkin pie should replace apple pie as a year-round pie. Proof me wrong. Pumpkin pie has no taste.
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Starting point is 00:23:54 to experience the full pleasure of it. Oh man I feel like I just ate some turkey. Okay Mr. Pilgrim first of all, when you go to mom's house you don't the the the to to to the to to the to to to the to mom's house, you don't sit down and she give you a pumpkin pie. She gives you a slice of apple pie. You tell me why you would mess with America and you would mess with mom. You're talking about moms? I'm trying to help moms here. It's way easier to make pumpkin pie and an apple pie. Just open a can and done that shit. That's what you do.
Starting point is 00:24:18 Look at that. You are the second rape moms. Wow, now you're hating moms. No, I'm not hating my action. I'm actually loving moms. This person hates moms. This person hates moms. Only a dad would recommend that you must be a dad. Hey, that's never been proven in court. Apple has more variety, like you can play around with it. You know, pumpkins just aren't as varied, so you get sick of it sooner. That's also an argument in favor of how complicated apple pies are. You have to like pick an apple, there's like 50 different varieties. You have to pick a pumpkin too.
Starting point is 00:24:50 No, there's only one pumpkin pumpkin. There's no red delicious pumpkin. Cabocha. What? Cabocha? Japanese pumpkins. No, that's a squash. You're not squash pie or pumpkin pie. Yeah, you're instigating the crowd now. People getting mad at you because you're wrong.
Starting point is 00:25:07 You're wrong. I have psychology on my side. You're wrong. We're gonna start a fighting union square about this right now. Pumpkin, pumpkin, pumpkin. When your kid comes home for school or whatever, do you say, oh, a pumpkin pie, it keeps a pumpkin pie, That's stupid. That's just stupid. You can't do that. You give him an apple. Yeah, but I don't give my kid apple pie to make him live longer.
Starting point is 00:25:27 Nobody likes bumping him pie. It doesn't make you feel good. It doesn't make you feel homie. It just doesn't, it doesn't do anything for you. It's just a piece of crap. Well, that's why they can only have it once a year. Well, I guess you win and so you know what that that that means that means that means that means that means that means that means that means that means that that means that that means that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that's that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the that's that that that that the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. tap. tap. tap. tap. tap. tap. tap. tap. tap. tap. tap. tap. tap. tap. tap. th. that's. I get the hat too? Yeah. Be careful you wish for. Lots of dumb people come here and argue with. Thank you so much for that, Ronnie. All right, when we come back, one of the world's most important living artists will discuss his new memoir about creating art when it is not safe.
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Starting point is 00:27:19 I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes, a second look on Apple podcasts starting September 17. Welcome back to the Daily Show. My guest tonight is I-Way-Way, an activist and one of the world's most important living artists. He's here to talk about his new memoir, One Thousand Years of Joys and Sorrows. I-Way-Way, welcome to the Daily Show. Hi. Um, I'm not exaggerating when I say you might be the th th th th th th be th th be th th be th be th th be th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi starting starting starting starting starting starting starting starting starting starting starting starting thi thi thi thi thi th starting starting th starting th starting th starting th starting th starting th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi to the to say starting to to to the thean thean thean thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thousand years of joys and sorrows. Hi Wei Wei, welcome to the Daily Show. Hi. I'm not exaggerating when I say you might be one of the coolest human beings I've ever spoken to who has also lived one of the hardest lives I have ever come across.
Starting point is 00:27:56 Because, you know, when I started reading this book, I thought it would just be a memoir of your life. Then I realized there was a memoir really of your father's life. It was his biography. And then it was also a story of China and the last 100 years. So maybe you can help me understand that. Why? Well, I often being asked why you become you. So when I was in detention in 2011, I asked the same question, why I become an enemy of a state.
Starting point is 00:28:31 So then the direct response of the memories my father was arrested 80 years ago, been put in jail for six years. So we are, we have been crime accused of a success. 80 years ago, been put in jail for six years. So we have been accused as the same crime, but in very different political government. So I think we felt understand my father's time and his struggle, which is about China, about the political situation, a culture background of China, I never really can clearly indicate what I have been through. It really is a powerful account of what you've been through. And you know, in your story, what I found fascinating is,
Starting point is 00:29:27 it appears to me that you have a love for China that is always in your heart, but you do not have that same love for the political system in China or for how the government treats people. Is that correct in my assumption of how I read the book? I think you made a clear, I think a clear response on what has been, what has that has that has that has that has been, I has been, I has been, I has been, I that that that that that that that has been, I have been, I have been, I have been, I have been, I have been, I have been, I have been, I have been, I have been a the the their, I have been a powerful the their, I have been a powerful, I their, I their, is a their, is a their, is a that that that that their, is their, is a their, is a their, is their, is their, is their, is a their, a their, a their, a their, a their, I that is a that is a that is a that that that that that that their, I have their, I have their, I have been a powerful., I have been a powerful.a theeeea, is a powerful, theaugh, is a powerful, is a powerful, theea, thea, is a powerful, is a powerful, is a powerful, is? I think you made a clear, I think a clear response on what has been, I have been doing. Yes, I'm Chinese, you know, China is, it matters today, you know, it's 1.4 billion people. But at same time, they are under a system which really struggle in every sense, politically and human rights, freedom of speech,
Starting point is 00:30:14 almost every topic, it really struggles. So how should I put myself, right, life, into this large context. It's why I have to write this book to figure it up. Were you never afraid though? As somebody who has been detained by the Chinese government, I mean on multiple occasions it appeared that your life would be in danger. You were told so many times not to go up against the government, and yet repeatedly you did. Is there no fear in you? Is that what it is? Or how do you keep on pressing?
Starting point is 00:30:54 I do have a fear, but that fear would come from, if I don't speak out. Simply, there's no person whose name is I will away and, you know, I will be silent as anybody else. So that is not responsible to life itself. We always want to speak out our mind. One of your biggest fans from what I, from what I read in the book is your son. You know, he sounds amazing. One of the passages in the book that's really gripping
Starting point is 00:31:33 is where you were detained for the 81 days. You were taken away and you asked him. You say to him, how does it feel, knowing that you'd been taken away? And he said, it's not a big deal. All the government did was advertise for you and they've made you even cooler. What do you think it is about your son and how he processes what's happening in the world? I try not to toubst to them.
Starting point is 00:31:54 I try not to toubte them. I don't want to tea to give him him my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my lesson my lesson my lesson my lesson my lesson my lesson my lesson my lessons my lessons my lessons my lessons my lessons my lessons to give my lessons to learn what happens to me. But he has this perspective. He said, I figured out the one being chastened would make same kind of effort as someone chasing him, because you both are running. So I think there's a beauty in there. He would always think about on both sides, you know, to say why power, power has to say the people or the mass the way or why they have to treat them in that way,
Starting point is 00:32:36 because they are, they're afraid of this kind of majority. And he always have this kind of majority. And he always have this kind of intelligence. So I think somehow he just got it. It feels like your art has a feeling of resistance to it. You know, when you're shattering a jaw, when you're breaking something, it feels like, is it a rage that you're trying to put through? Is it a defiance?
Starting point is 00:33:07 What is it that's coming across that maybe is different to what you meet when you meet the man? And well, it's, when I talk about my fight or my struggle or even my artworks, it's not really about the value I defend. I think that value are shared by everybody, mostly for the people who have no chance to speak out, and they would leave their life in dark. For generations, you know,
Starting point is 00:33:40 they have no way to see the justice ever being presented. So that always gets me angry, but still I know that's just some kind of emotion. I have to control it. Because as an individual, that is the much you can do. But as artists, you can find a language or vocabulary which can reach out. Sometimes it's successful. Recently, the Holocaust Museum declared the treatment of Uyghurs in China as genocide. Many world nations are afraid to say or try and keep their distance on labeling anything that's happening. But I guess my question has two parts to it. One, do you agree with what is the today, the that, the tho that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, the that, the the that, the the that, the that, which the the that, which that, which that, which that, which that, which thate that, which that, which that, which that, which that, which thate, which the, which the, which the, which the, which the, which the, which the, which the, which the, which the the the the the the the that, that that that, that, that, the the the the that, the the that, the the that, that, that, the that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that or try and keep their distance on labeling anything that's happening.
Starting point is 00:34:25 But I guess my question has two parts to it. One, do you agree with what is happening to the Uyghurs being referred to as genocide? And two, do you think that helps or hinders the conversation in trying to get these people liberated and to get them treated equally? I think first genocide is a term Chinese are not very familiar with. They're not only doing to vigorous, they have been doing that to Tibetans, to inner Mongolia people. Basically, the communist society has been doing this kind of re-education and the brainwash to anybody, to my father. You know, I grew up with my father in the same location as we were people today. And they clearly tell us that it's a re-education camp. So that only being brought to the world
Starting point is 00:35:28 view in recent years, but that's why they they don't understand why now being really brought up as an issue. But the communist always doing that and to their own people, to you know so-called Han people, and to other minorities. A thousand years of joys and sorrows. What are some of the joys, and maybe tied to that, what are some of your hopes for China going forward? The joys will be, I always think when there's an obstacles, there will be some kind of humor and joy.
Starting point is 00:36:07 And they always offer me this difficult moment. So I have to rethink about my language, my strategy, how to deal with it. That is, in most cases, it's quite humorous and joyful until they put you in absolute severe condition like kidnapping or under some kind of brutal situation. And for China I think they are developing very fast. Nobody can ignore in China. But at same time, in certain areas, they are quite blind. First, they still cannot solve the legitimacy of the power.
Starting point is 00:37:02 They never let their people, which is 1.4 billion people, to say what a voting ticket is like. So that means two things. One, they don't trust those people. And the second, they don't have self-confidence to be in power as a legitimate government. So once that is not solved, there will be constantly struggle to clean out any oppositions. And I don't think they can solve that.
Starting point is 00:37:40 And as your son says, the person who's chasing is running just as fast as the person they're chasing. That's the game. Yeah, that is the game. Thank you so much for joining me on the show. It's an absolute pleasure meeting you and having you here. Very pleasant to meet you. Thank you very much. Thank you. Don't forget people. Way's memoir, 1, 1,000 years of joys and sorrows is available right now. We're going to take take to to to to to to to to to to to taken a to to to taken great to to taken we to to to to taken wa. taken wa. taken, thoen, thoomk. thoome. thoen, thoomorrow. thoomorrow. thoom-a. thoom-a. thoom-a. tho. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. the. the. the. the. the. thea. thea. thea. thea. togea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. the.'re going to take a quick break, but we'll be right back after this. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. But that's all about to change.
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