The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Rhode Island Revises Its Problematic Name & Blacklexa | Bubba Wallace & John Legend

Episode Date: June 25, 2020

NASCAR driver Bubba Wallace reflects on the noose controversy, Trevor introduces Blacklexa, and John Legend talks about fighting for racial equality and his album "Bigger Love." Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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starting September 17th, wherever you get your podcasts. Hey everybody, welcome to another episode of the Daily Social Distancing Show. I'm Trevor Noah. And on tonight's episode, John Legend is here to talk about his new album. We're also going to be joined by Bubba Wallace to talk about NASCAR, the Confederate flag, and the noose, the infamous noose that was found in his garage. So let's do this thing. Welcome to the Daily Social Distancing Show.

From Trevor's Couch in New York City to your couch somewhere in the world. This is the daily social distancing show with Trevor Noah. The big story that's had everybody talking from social media to the morning news has been Baba Wallace, NASCAR, and the noose. Now if you miss the story, here's how it all went down. Baba Wallace, the only black NASCAR driver has been promoting the noose. Now if you miss the story, here's how it all went down. Baba Wallace, the only black NASCAR driver, has been promoting the Black Lives Matter movement and pushing NASCAR to ban the Confederate flag from its races.

NASCAR agreed, and BABLAWALAS immediately faced a huge firestorm from people who felt like he was blocking their southern heritage and racism. Then a week after the flag was banned from the races, one of Wallace's crew members found a noose hanging in the garage where Wallace's car was parked. And so immediately, everybody was on edge, especially black people. I mean, it's a noose. A noose is like the end word of ropes. In fact, I don't even like saying the word moose, because it's too close to noose is like the n-word of ropes. In fact, I don't even like saying the word moose,

because it's too close to noose. I just call it a Canadian cow. So anyway, after the news was found, NASCAR called in the FBI to investigate if this was indeed a hate crime. And last night, the FBI announced the FBI has determined that NASCAR driver Bubba Wallace was not the target of a hate crime. Investigators say the noose found in his garage had been there since last October,

months before Wallace was assigned that stall. According to NASCAR, the rope was used to pull the garage door closed. Wallace, the sports-only black top circuit driver, says he doesn't care how long it's been there. It's still a noose. What an emotional roller coaster. It turns out there was a noose in the garage, but it wasn't left there as a message to Baba Wallace. It was used to close a garage door. And I'm gonna be honest with you, I'm just relieved. I'm relieved. Because for a story involving a noose, this is the best possible outcome. It wasn't a hate crime against Bubba Wallace, and it wasn't a hoax like Jussie Smollett. Because the country didn't need any of that right now, right? I mean, we've already got police brutality videos going viral every day, protests in the streets,

and on top of all of that, there's a pandemic that you think has gone away, and then it comes back with a vengeance like a virus John Wick. Now, I know there's someone out there who's probably just as relieved as I am. And that's my good friend, Roy? Yeah, what's up, man? What's going on? For once, the FBI delivered some good news. Good news? You must have lost your goddamn mind.

Ain't no good news involved in a noose. No, come on. I don't mean, like, good news. I don't mean, like, the turt in the to'nu. I mean, like, relatively good news. You know, like, like, from, from, from, from, like, from, from, from, like, from, like, from, like, from, like, from, like, the the the the the the the the the the, the the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the, the the, the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the the the the the tho, tho, tho, tho, to, to, to-s., todd.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a. too. too. too. too is never good news. That's like flying a turd in your kitchen. Like, you see a turd in the kitchen. You don't care why it's there, how long the turret? Who put the turd here? No. It's a turn in your kitchen, and you ain't happy about it, and you want that shit gone. Yeah, but, okay, but Roy, apparently, there's an innocent explanation for this, right? The- that th. T th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tha tha tha tha the the the the the the the the the the thr- thr- thr- the thr- thi their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their tire, ture, tured in tured in tur-in. turte in turt in turt in turt in turt in turt in tu. tue in tue in tu. tipe in ture in tied the end of it like a noose. And that don't freak you out? First off, who's using a noose to close a garage door? That's like building a campfire, but you shape your campfire in the form of a cross. You can't think of a less racist way to roast marshmallows?

And why not? Why a noose knot? Of all the knives, you got a slip knot, you got a clothe hit, you got a taut line hit, you got an alpine butterfly, but they chose a noose. A noose, bro. Wow, Roy, you, you know a lot about knots. I was in the Boy Scouts, bro, F hear what you're saying. I hear what you're saying. Like, it's pretty messed up to use a noose as the pull for your garage. And, and, and it's backwards as hell. You're telling me they still closing garages by hand?

NASCAR makes billions of dollars. You're telling me they can't afford no da. You can purchase and install a garage door opener for $300. Tell my Uncle Derek could knock it out for $150. He over in Memphis just hit him up. And then on top of that, that's how you know, that's how you know, that's how you know, Trevor that NASCAR doesn't have enough black people in their sport. You just got a noose just dangling. And nobody, nobody saw him. Nobody, to to lie, Roy, you make some

really good points. So, okay, so then, how do you respond to people who are saying that black people are just being too sensitive? Yeah, you kind of need to be sensitive when you've had a target on your back for the last 400 years? That's why I had my head on a swivel at all times, man. Little kids come up on my porch for Halloween. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. their. their. th. their th. their their their th. th. their th. th. to to to to to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. their. their. their. their. their. their. So. their. So. So. their. So. the. So. the. the. the. So, the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. their. their. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. today, th. th. th. th. th. I can't afford to let my guard down. Little kids come up on my porch for Halloween. Yeah, they might be kids dressed as ghosts, or they could be really short members of the KKKK. I ain't giving no snickers bar to the Klan. Get your ass off my porch. All right, Royce.

So then, like what do you say? here. Well first off Trevor everybody need to learn how to tie a different knot. You Google that shit go figure that out. Secondly NASCAR needs to give all their garage is the old noose check once over before every race. We wouldn't want any more misunderstandings. Hey man. Speaking some truth there there Roywood Jr. Thank you so much for checking in my tu-I'm a tu-d- I don't even know what that that means that means that means that means that means that means that means that means that means that that that means that that that that that that that that that that that th th th the th. the the the the the the the the the th. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. their. their. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. the the the the the the tttt. tttt. t. tttttttttb. tb. tp. tp. tp. tp. tp. the tp. the. tb. the. the. tb. t't even know what that meant. You ain't never found a turd? Whatever, man. All right, we're gonna take a short break, but after the break, we're speaking to Baba Wallace himself to find out what he thinks about the story. But don't go away. When 60 minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television.

Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes, a second look. Starting September 17th, wherever you get your podcasts. You relieved when the FBI came out with their report, because this happened to Bob Wallace. I mean, you were the story.

How did you feel about this? Like, were you relieved? What was your emotion? When I had first heard about, Trevor, I wanted to make sure that this wasn't going to be the case., the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, toe, toe, toe, toe, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, they.e, they.s.s.s.s.s.s.s.s.s.s.s.s.s.s.s.s.s.s.s.s. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. the, were, were, were,wea wanted to make sure that this wasn't going to be the case because I knew the backlash that would come with it. And I had questioned my crew chief. I had questioned my crew member who was African American who had found it and who was outraged by it. He did, I talked to him multiple times, he had checked throughout the garages that were around us and nobody had a knot like we had on our garage pool in the shape of a noose, a full-bladden noose.

So there's not like a regular, this is not like a NASCAR style of tying a knot. It's not like it was on all the other garages. No, this was there, and it could have been there in 2019, which is, that's great. It wasn't directly towards me, so to answer your question, I was relieved, but I knew that this was gonna flip to the negative side and and all of that side of everything was just gonna come flowing out because people say it's a hoax, compare me to Jeffrey, you know, Smolier, like, I mean, just outrageous stuff. But we checked, my, my crew member, David Crops checked each and every garage around us. Not one of them had anything close to resemble what we had.

So it was there, but it had been there, so when they found that evidence, that was good. I was like, okay, my family wasn't targeted, I wasn't targeted, okay. But now there's a whole new realm that we have to deal with. I know there are a lot of fans, you know, I try and read what people are saying and just try and get a sentiment. And I know there are some people. A lot of people support you, I'd say even most. But there are some fans would be like, Baba, I supported you and I never made it a black

or white thing. Why did you have to bring any of these politics into into to to to to to the politics, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, to, the, to, the, to, the, to, to, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the, the, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the, and, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, tho, to.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a. And, to.a. And, to. And, to. And, to. And, to. And, to. And, to. And,try to avoid that at all cost. I walk straight and narrow down the path that I want to walk on. And, you know, it's crazy when everybody's all supportive when the president is at the Daytona 500 and it's all fine. That's all political to me, you know. But when I bring in banning the Confederate flag and standing up for my African side of my family who a lot feel like they don't have a voice and I'm carrying that weight, I'm carrying that flag for them. And so, you know, my pin tweet is not something I am saying, I am going around saying, I'm the African driver, yep, I'm the African, I'm the Black guy. It's simply saying you're going saying I'm the I'm the africamerican driver. Yep, I'm the africamerican. I'm the black guy

It's simply saying you're gonna hear about that from media from other fans You just that's that's how I'm gonna be labeled I've accepted it. You accept it you embrace it and enjoy the journey. That's as simple as that I've never once pulled the race card as many people have accused me of pulling a race card I I am looked at as an African-American guy because I, the color of my skin. I am darker, I am not white, I am not, I'm mixed. And it's something that I never once try to bring in. I'm always try to bring in the competitive nature, don't mess with me, I won't mess with you. let's race our hearts out and that's it. And now having a voice, having a platform, being vocal, staying up for what I believe is right, standing up for a race that feels defeated that is afraid to speak out because they

don't know what's going to happen. I'm not, I don't want to see my people go down like that. I want to stand up for them, I want to stand up with them, I, I, I, them, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their like that. I want to stand up for them. I want to stand up with them, arm and arm, hand in hand to show that, hey, I have a voice and I'm going to create change in my sport and my community. And I want you guys to be a part of it. And so there's a whole balancing act of emotions. You go through that side on Monday through Friday, and then, or Monday, Saturday, really, and then you climb, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And to to to to be to be to be, to be, to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I I, and I I I I I I I, and I I I I I, I I I I I, I, I I I, I, I, I, I, I, I, th, th, th. and I, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thin, th. And, th. And, th. And, and, and, and, toa. And, and, and, and, and, and, and I'm tha. And, and I'm tha, and, Saturday really and then you climb in the car to go race. There's a light switch if you've seen Richard Petty and us and myself right there before climbing in he was touching the back of my head he had said this is where you get to turn off that switch and get to go have fun and get away from all the madness so that's that's what it is.

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Listen to 60 minutes, a second look, starting September 17th, wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show. Every day, we are still seeing changes in response to the Black Lives Matter protests that exploded all over the US a month ago. Police departments are being scrutinized and even changed. Companies are looking at their lack of diversity and racist statues are falling harder than

Mike Pence boarding a plane. And in Rhode Island, they're taking steps to make their official state name a lot less problematic. Rhode Island's official name could soon exclude a portion with ties to slavery. The official name of Rhode Island is Rhode Island and Providence Plantations. The state's governor signed an executive order to remove Providence plantations from citations, state websites, and state employee pay stubs. We can't ignore the image conjured by the word plantations. We can't ignore how painful that is for Blackbird Islanders to see that and have to see that as part of their state's name. All right, America's

just weird because I didn't even know that Rhode Island's official full name was Rhode Island and Providence plantations. Do all the states have problematic full names that we've just never heard about? Like, is it actually the Republic of California and Japanese internment camps? Or Alaska, too new for slavery, but kind of wish we had a shot at it, is Maine's full name, Gucci Maine?

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All right, don't go away, because after the break, John Legend is on the show and he's performing a song from his brand new album. We'll be right back. We've tested now 25 million people. What you do testing to that extent, you're going to find more people, you're going to find more cases. So I said to my people, slow the testing down, please. It was a comment that he made in Jess. Come on now, that was tongue and cheap. When you see these thugs being thrown into the back of a pattyweg, I said, please don't be too nice.

I believe he was making a joke at the time. President Obama, he is the founder of ISIS. Trump insisted that he was being sarcastic. Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. Sean Spicer said the president was clearly joking. And then I see the disinfectant that knocks it out in a minute, one minute, and is there a way we can do something like that? Time injection inside or... The president now says he was being sarcastic. Were you just kidding or do you have a plan to slow down how to kid?

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Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show. Earlier today, I spoke with Egot winner and multi-platinum artist John Legend about the Black Lives Matter movement and how it affected his new album, Bigger Love. John Legend, welcome to the Daily Social Distancing Show. It's my pleasure. Good to see you again. This is our first time during the social distancing era. This is our first time. Hopefully it'll be our last time. I don't like this. I like hearing your silky voice in person. I feel like there are a few parts of the frequencies that are lost over the camera. I don't like it. And I'm sure you miss your audience too. I think all of us as performers miss our audiences and there's something about, particularly with comedy, it's nice to hear the laughs in in person as you deliver the jokes.

And I think for artists it's the same. We want to hear the crowd. We want to feel the response that they give us right away. So I think we all miss that and look forward to the day when that's safe again. Yeah, and you know, to be honest, I think it goes both ways because I've talked to some of my fans where the fans where I of the concert is just enjoying other human beings having a great time around me. Exactly and as much as we were doing these

you know Instagram live concerts from home and you know Alicia and I did the versus thing. It's very different to feel the crowd and there's no experience that will duplicate that. Yeah, let's let's talk a little bit about that that, you know that place in the crowd and there's no experience that will duplicate that. Yeah. Let's talk a little bit about that, you know, that place in the world, being not just an artist, but being a black artist, being a black artist who is also conscious. You know, before these protests began, John Legend had been on the ground. You've been fighting for changes in mass incarceration. You've been fighting to change how America treats black people. You've been fighting for equality and justice for a long time.

Is this part of the movement you've been hoping to see for so long? Well, seeing the folks in the streets, seeing this multiracial, multigenerational, huge movement of people in the streets has been very inspiring for me. It does make me hopeful in the streets has been very inspiring for me. It does make me hopeful about the future, but I also know that there's a lot of work that goes into actually making the change that we're speaking out for it. And so all of the times in between these big protests are when a lot of that work has to get done. And so activists, organizers, they're seizing

this momentum and saying let's get in these city council meetings. Let's th th th th th the the the the the th the th, th, the to, to, to, to, tok, tok, tok, tok, tok, tok, tok, tok, to, to, toguuuu togu their togu togu toguu theu thu thu thu thu their their their their their their, their their, their their their, their their their their their their their their their their their, their their, their their, their th. th. th. th. th. te, te, te, te, te, te, toguuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu. to, to, togu., organizers, they're seizing this momentum and saying, let's get in these city council meetings, let's talk to our Congress people, let's organize, let's mobilize people to get out to vote for particular district attorney candidates or particular county sheriff candidates. And so that is kind of the everyday grinding work of a democracy that need to be done for us

to see the kinds of changes we want to see. It happens when you're dealing with school boards and zoning, you know, so many of the things that affect the daily lives of so many people and that have affected black and brown lives so negatively over the years have been these local decisions like housing segregation and zoning and school segregation and and who gets chosen to be the police chief and how much budget goes to policing, how much budget goes to the county jail or to the state prisons. So all of these decisions, they don't get a lot of headlines a lot of times and we don't think about them when we think about

our elections most of the time, but this is where the decisions are being made and if we're not engaged in democracy in that way, then sometimes we miss out on being in the room to make those decisions and having our voices heard when those decisions are made. What I've the the the the the the the the the the theou the theou the the the the the the the the the the the the the theate theateateate the the theateate the the the the the the the the the the the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. to to to to to to to to to to to toe. toe toe toe toe toean. toean. toean. toean toean toean toean toean. toean toean. toean. toean. toeananeane. toe. to make those decisions and having our voices heard when those decisions are made. What I found particularly interesting, especially in your case, is that I've seen a lot of the work that you've been doing you know in the space of social justice. What I was surprised by is you announcing a new album. I was like, wait, when when was John Legend recording an album? When was he making music? How was he making music? One thing that I'm always intrigued by is the ability, I, the ability, the ability, the ability, the ability, the ability, the ability, the ability, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the thi, the the the the thi, the the thi, the the thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, thi, thi, thi, thi, th thing that I'm always intrigued by is the ability of an artist

to exist in multiple spaces at the same time because I thought this album was just gonna be about what's happening. I thought it was gonna be like a coronavirus album. But it seems like you've chosen to go back to classic John Legend and almost give us an escape from everything that's going wrong in the world. Well the the timing has been so interesting because I was writing this album in 2019 all through the year. I was writing it early this year 2020 and I was done writing the album by the time we all went to

lockdown and so this album is a reflection of where I was when I was writing it in all of 2019 and early 2020. It's an expression of joy, of love, of human connection, of nostalgia, of my love for black music and all the music that's really made me the artist I am. That's really what this album is inspired by and of course it's coming at an odd time you know it's coming at a time when everyone's been on lockdown for several months when for the last few weeks we've seen people protesting in the streets about the killing of George Floyd and

Brianna Taylor and others and so it does feel a little odd putting music out in this moment that isn't directly responding to what was happening in this moment but that's th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. th th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi thi the really really thee really theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee really thi thi thi thi, music out in this moment that isn't directly responding to what was happening in this moment, but that's kind of the nature of making an album. It's a long process and I will be writing more music and some of that will be responsive to what's happening right this moment, but it'll take a while for even that to be done and ready to be put out again. And what I do think is music has the power to lift people up, to give them hope, to make them feel that connection,

feel that love. And I feel like people could use some more of that right now. And I think this album has that kind of feeling to it. Yeah, it really is, it's really, it's really, I'm serious, it's like it's comforting, it's beautiful, it's like it's classic John Legend in the way that we know and love you, and you've got some wonderful came on and join, you've got some artists who feature on the album, everybody from Gary Clark Jr. to Gene Aiko, and it's beautiful to hear these different sounds and melodies coming together. Why the title, ti, tietietietietietietietietietietietie, tie, tie, tie, tie, th, thin, thin, thi, thin, thin, thin, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th's cla',ger Love? You know, it feels like that's been a theme

I've heard from you recently. You know, I heard it in the verses with you and Alicia. It felt like it was like a battle of love, which I've never encountered, I've never experienced in life. But it feels like that's something that you've really been pushing. You know, when I was writing these songs these songs these songs these songs these, Bigger Love back in the fall of last year, with Ryan Teter

and Conscious Clay. And we were in the studio just trying to write a beautiful song that felt like it connected, it felt honest, and felt powerful and necessary in that moment. We didn't know how necessary it would be a few months later, and how much connection people would be craving at this moment. But it felt right at the time, and it feels even more relevant now. And I think the idea behind the title is that this album is colorful, is full of love, full

of hope and optimism, and that title felt like it captured that sentiment for me. Well, John Legend, thank you so much for the music, thank you for taking the time. Thank you so much for that John. As you may know, June is Pride Month and right now we want to highlight charities that are making a difference for LGBTQ people of color like the National Black Justice Coalition which advocates for federal policies that fights against racism and homophobia. Now if you want to help them and and you can, then please donate whatever you can. And if you'd like to support specifically here in New York, and you want to support the LGBTQ community, then what you can do is donate to the Audrey Lord Project. They help communities of color fight for their rights and organize for change.

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