The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Roy's Job Fair - DJ Jazzy Jeff
Episode Date: May 18, 2022Grammy winner and host of the web series 'Vinyl Destination,' DJ Jazzy Jeff shares his early days of a first job frying chicken at Roy Rogers restaurants, his love of music, and his lack of hobbies. J...eff also details the ways the music industry and radio stations have done a disservice to truly original music and how DJs and musicians can breakthrough now. @Rod4Short addresses the ways you can tastefully navigate Will Smith conversations at the job without being sent to HR. He also rains praise upon the unsung heroes of the nightlife – women security guards. Listen to Roy's Job Fair: See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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This is Roy Wood, Jr.
Now, the Daily Show is off this week.
So I just wanted to make sure you caught a recent episode of my podcast, Roy's Job Fair.
It's a show about all things employment.
We make it funny, because see, we're connected as a society.
We all need food to eat, we all need something to love, and we all need a way to provide. In this show, we talk to regular everyday people and celebrities about their journey through
making a dollar.
On this episode, I caught up with the homie DJ Jazzy Jeff, who long before he was winning
Grammys, the first ever rap gramie for Best Rap performance with Will Smith.
Before he did all of that, he was frying chicken at Roy Rogers.
So we talked to Jeff about that and how he ended up DJing and, you know, just where he sees
the rap game moving as a whole now.
It was a great episode.
I really think you'll love it.
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you get your podcast. Now hiring. Rod, what are you doing here? You're early. Now hiring.
He all time for his job. Oh, man, that's a sceasing. There are now companies offering unlimited PTO.
Really?
This smells like a scam.
But they say Netflix, Twitter, PayPal, Evernote, Oracle,
Kronos, G-E, Live, Shop, and Dropbox are amongst the companies now giving you the opportunity
to just live wherever you want and leave whatever you want and collect
that PTO unlimited.
JG, scam or not?
That's a scam.
You can't have unlimited anything.
Even when you go to a buffet, you can't eat it all.
I've seen people try.
Yeah, I've seen some shit.
You can try, but you can roll that. It's worth to try though. If the PTO- the P P P, if the P, the P, the P, the P, the P, th is try. I haven't seen some shit ago. You can try with shit. It's worth a try though. If the PTO is unlimited, just...
Don't do the word, get my mom.
That's not my problem.
That's not my problem.
It's not my problem.
You show up to work the first day and then you just never go back and when they fire you, you just get to say, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the the the the the the the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, I I their, I'd their and when they fire you, you just get to say, yeah, I used to work at Dropbox.
Exactly. And the rest of those companies he named too.
Just let me a long time. Just flop all of them and don't show up. I mean, just take all the days. One day at each.
One day at each. That's all you do. One day in peace. This is so long to find these days. I said so long to be.
My name is Lord.
This is my job, family.
We're back.
After the first annual April Foons extravagance
that was a good time.
Shout out again to the home girl Lisa Beattie
the open to Chicago.
She's a monster.
My director friend, C. Craig, who was always representing for Sacklson State Community
Couch, Leonard T. Falcon.
That T is a wonderful.
I wished it was real.
He made some amazing points.
What?
Rod, it's really fair.
Like, yes, ugly people can't get policies passed so we need more educated, good-looking people.
I personally am very nervous around ugly people, and I watch them. I watch them.
I watch because if you look at the news, whenever something crazy's happened, the fucking
perpetrator, ugliest shit. I watch ugly people. I don't like being around them.
I'm all for that shit.
We have a single guess. You see his name right there in the description. No sense in acting
like this is radio and I'm going to surprise you. DJ Jazzy Jeff. We somehow able to sucker in one of the
first winners of a Grammy. And to be in a part of this acoustical radio presentation, he'll talk with us a little bit
about his journey and the world of DJ and and just that hustle and scams of it, you know, I have
no intentions of asking him shit about Will Smith, so let me just establish that right now.
Very clear. Because I know y'all wondering if I'm gonna ask DJ Jazzy Jeff, what's up with your boy? Maybe when we get to Rod, maybe ride, maybe we can't to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th t t t t tell tell tell tell the the world the the the the the the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. tape. tape. tap. tell just just just just tell just tell.a' tell. tell. when we get to Rod maybe Rod maybe we can talk about Will Smith in the slap
before we get into the CMO I will say this about DJs.
I think that DJing is an important skill in manipulating and motivating and moving people.
I just wish that songs would give more credit to the other employees in the club.
Every song is about the fucking DJ, praising the DJ.
DJ, turn it up, go DJ.
That's my DJ. Hey Mr. DJ, you're spinning that song.
What about the bottle girl?
What about the mother fuck in the back, cooking the wind?
What?
Ooh.
There's a gentleman back there keeping you fool.
There are never songs about the waitress.
There's always songs about the bottle.
But not the bottle girl.
Who brought you the bottle?
Tane made a song about liking the bartender.
Shout out to DePay.
Yes.
Yes, the DJ and the bartender.
And then, not only do they only love the DJ and the bartender, it's also fuck security.
Listen man. I know that you're mad because you're standing on the furniture and some are
fucking a tight t-shirt is politely asked you to get off of this IKEA furniture.
But why is it fuck security in every song?
Can there be one rap song where we show appreciate, hey security, thank you for patting people
down and dying first.
Die in first. We appreciate you, Mr. Security, God, for keeping the club.
Sounds happy. Thank you, Mr. Security, man, for dragging that drunk dude out the club.
Right, you know what, man. Thank you for the way you flicker your flashlight through the crowd as people part like the red sea. There's a way to solve this, homie. There's a way to solve this, homie, this, this, this, th th th th th th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. We, thi. We, thi. We, th. We, th. We, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to, thi. thi. thi. thi. to thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi you flicker your flashlight through the crowd as people part like the Red Sea.
There's a way to solve this, homie.
There's a way to solve this, homie.
What you need to do is write a song about the women who work security at the club.
You're right.
The unsung heroes.
Like, those are unsung arrows.
Like, you know, those women that are like six four 250 you know they say be out there working security
You know what I'm saying
You gotta get props to them sisters
Girl the corn rolls and the ponytail just beating the shit with the black gloves on oh yeah, so Sorry, her back so big both of us can hide behind her you know, I feel safer when it's the women's security there because they don't play you can hide right behind them
if you had a club with a woman working security yeah you say straight nobody's
going to she ain't got no qualms about swinging first I've never seen a female security guard get her
as beat not one time see to every one of them whooping ass
breaking the glass ceiling with your goddamn spine
who whoop that man I want to get into jazzy Jeff man so let's jump real fast it's time
Cody's most outstanding employee of the week you know JG I love a good scam and I believe that college is a scam.
Hmm. So what great? It's a couple of scams that I have. It's overpriced. Let me put it that way.
A former Yale administrator filed a number of invoices pretending to buy computer equipment
for the beloved university, but instead it was
found out that she bought a fleet of luxury cars and several houses.
Well done, 90% of the computer equipment orders that she made for Yale's medical school
over the last eight years, allegedly were all bogus, and she took the money and lived like a fucking rock star I bet you she
had bottle service oh Yale's darned understand how how did she deviate or get the
money to go towards what she wanted to buy she must have had had a co-conspirator. Oh, it was beautiful.
She was authorized to make purchases of $10,000 or less
without any approval.
So she made a bunch of purchases,
broke them down into $10,000 part, so nobody checked on it.
And then she had a third party, she sent the electronics to in exchange for cash.
She has to have a good spirit.
Makes perfect sense.
This is brilliant.
Shut out to Chad Washington.
He's the one who emailed us.
Thanks, Chad.
This wonderful, wonderful CMO.
You know, college is a ska.
It's one of those things. you stole from from the student and the money could have been used for the
fucking student. But as much as you overcharged people, especially
fucking Ivy League schools.
Uh-huh.
I'm okay with this woman stealing $40 million, $10,000 at a time over the course of eight years.
I respect it. I call reparations. There's some skeletons in the closet up there at Yale
She just got some payback for it. I ain't upset with that at all for scamming the scammers
the lavish life.
Mercedes,
landroads,
Cadillac escalates
properties in several states.
Lavish trips.
Oh.
For doing that.
You are.
Cody's most outstanding employee of the week.
Totally support this one.
She faces up to 30 years in prison.
She's freeing on the break if I was by.
That's all right.
We'll see when you get out of jail. You be alright. Worst and first time. I am
Excited J.G. We normally, you know, we have guests. You know, this is the people's podcast. We've discussed that numerous times. This is is a podcast for
regular motherfuckers to call in and tell us about their life and their job, but every now and then we get royalty to get somebody immaculate we get a mothfucking legend.
Yes. Who we trick into giving us a couple of minutes to the world. Well said. We sent over a nice PDF with pictures of who we are and what I do and what we mean to the world and they fall for that shit and they agree to it and we have one one one one one one one one one one one one one.. one one one. one. to to to one. the the the the to their. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. to to to to to to to to their. to to their their their. their. to their. their. to their. their. their. We get. We get. their. We get. We get their. We get. We get. We get. We get. We their. We their. We their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. Yeah. their their their. Yeah. their. Yeah. Yeah. to. to. to. to. to. to. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their do and what we mean to the world and they fall for that shit and they agree to it and we have one today. Yep.
Who number one was the soundtrack of my life, J.G. who do we have on the line?
Because we're talking music today.
Mursic.
Absolutely. And it is a pleasure and an honor to actually introduce Grammy Award. DJ Jazzy Jeff.
Yes.
Since 1985, Jazzy Jeff has wowed us
with his flawless turntable skills and innovative production.
Not to mention his hilarious moments on the fresh prince of Balear.
Most recently, DJ Jazzy Jeff has been busy
traveling the globe while chronicling all of his travels
in his popular vinyl destination,
a web series that documents his experiences on and off stage.
Welcome, Grammy award winning, DJ Jazzy Jeff.
I love that.
That was great. Well, Mr. Philadelphia, was it at 14, you were the that, the Jazzy Jeff. I love that. That was great. Now, Mr. Philadelphia here.
Was it at 14, you were DJing a block party with 1,000 people outside in the street?
How did you find your North Star so fast?
I had some old heads in my neighborhood that allowed me to hang around.
They allowed me to carry records when they had to do block parties or house parties.
They just let me hang around because this was one of those things that you almost needed
on-the-job training.
And I got a chance to play when these guys went to the bathroom.
You know, so when they would go to the bathroom,
we like, Jeff, hold it down.
And I would always make sure I might have only got one record in,
but I'll always make sure that I would change the record, play something good.
Everybody's dancing.
So it really took, until I was about 14 that someone
actually came and asked me if I could do the block party on my own. So brought my speakers and I
set them on top of a van and brought a receiver and two turn tables and a mix in a microphone
and just start playing music, excuse me,
and you know, especially back then,
if somebody else had a block party
and a bigger DJ was doing it,
your block party would have had no people,
almost the people that lived on a block would go to the better block.
So the, the blessing was...
Your own neighbors? Oh, oh, listen. They're just like, oh, DJ Sess and
such is four blocks away. I'll be back. See that? Philly, Philly, early on the music stop
move, man. Early snobs hard in Philly, man. Because the music is so good. They could be like,
nah, man, you ain't hitting over here. You need to do better, right. Your own grandmama,. Your own grandmama, Jeff? Your own grandmama will betray you and go up the street.
But that's the reason why you needed, you know, that one time
when there was no other block parties
and a thousand people came
and everybody got a chance to hear me play.
So you only need one, and then next thing you know you're booked the next week and booked the next week. And it was a little different, you know, because being 14 and that young, I had some older
guys that would kind of go with me.
And I didn't really have like the most liberal mom in the world.
Like she wasn't really going for that, the house parties over at two o'clock.
You know, so I used to get teased to get to get to get to get to get to get teased to get to get teased the to get the the the to get the the the to get the the the the used to get teased a lot because pretty much about 1140,
I would ask someone to start playing records for me and say I had to go to the bathroom and
I would fly home to be home before midnight. Wow. And that was the move. I was living dual lives.
I was I was Sarah's son, but I was DJ Jazzy Jeff also.
So until Sarah kind of got an understanding of DJ Jazzy Jeff,
you had to live dual lives.
So then were you doing, you know,
this is a part of show we talk about, you know,
worst jobs and first jobs.
And clearly, I believe, if I'm, correct me if correct me from wrong DJ and was your first job.
Did you do anything with a paste up at any point?
Oh absolutely.
From your teenage years on did you?
I was the chicken frying the chicken like I seasoned it.
I fried the chicken like I seasoned it. But season came in the bag, but listen, in my mind, I seasoned that chicken and I cleaned
out of all of the crumbs of the oil because I wanted people to eat the chicken.
Like I wanted to eat the chicken.
You know, you've been to that place where you could tell that the grease was burnt and all
the rest of that. Yes. That's what's up. And making that, and making that, and making that, and making that, and making that, and making that, and making that, and making that, and making that, that, that, the th, the th, the th, th, the th, th. And, th, th. the the the th. the th. th. the the the th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. thi. the. thean. thean. thean. thean season, thean season, thean season, thean season, thean season, thean. Wea. thean. thean. the. was burnt and all the rest of that. So, yeah, just a little bit. That's what's up. You know, and making sure that on my shift in Roy Rogers,
you would get the best chicken that Roy Rogers could off.
You wouldn't them catch you fried a chicken and then you peek out into the lobby
to see the people take that first bite into the chicken. They like, yeah, they like. Well, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they're, they, they, they, they, they, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, and their, and their, and their, and their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their their their their their their, their their, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, to th. to to to to to th. th. tha. tha. thi thi. thi. thi. And, thi. And, thr. asked me to work on Sundays, because you know what was up on Sundays.
When that was a long line.
Church bus pull up.
A rain Rogers, and you know how it is on Sundays.
Ain't nobody ordering a burger.
Everybody's getting chicken.
How were you able to put your parents at ease?
Hey, I'm done with Roy Rogers.
I'm straight on going to college. This is what I want to do. And what should what should parents take from that conversation that you had with your pen?
Well, you know, the one thing that I will give my mom credit for is, as long as I was doing
something productive, she pretty much left me alone. You know, she didn't really have a say-so
and what my career choice was going to be. She just didn't want me hanging around the house doing nothing or hanging in
the streets pretty much doing.
And so, you know, the fact that, you know, you might make $30 at a house
party on a Friday.
I'm coming home Friday and Saturday, you know, with some money.
I'm trying to do it. And, um, you know, once Will and I hooked up, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, to.. to a to a to a to a to a to a to a to a to a to a to a to a to a to a to. toe, to to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the the they. they. they. they. they. they. they. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. thr. thr. thr. the. thr. thr. tooooooooooooooooooooooooom. the the th. trying to do it. And, you know, once Will and I hooked up, like it got to a point that I kind of became
the biggest DJ in the city just by doing like, and it was really hard because, you know, when your mom friends comes up and they're just kind of like, oh my god, you know, so what are you doing?
And you tell you, especially this, now this is like 1984. When you tell somebody I'm a the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. the the the th. th. th. 1984. When you tell somebody I'm a DJ, the first thing they say, on the radio?
No.
In the street. And that kind of, that doesn't really sound right.
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that, you know, Will and I hooked up at a house party, same thing, and then we just kind
of went all over the city and did everything and kind of became the biggest thing in the
city.
And next thing you know, he brings this record promoter over to the house that was like, hey, I wanna put a record out with you guys.
Will was on his way to MIT.
I wasn't trying to make Roy Rogers a career move,
but that was kind of on the side.
But you have been promoted to hear chicken season,
yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I was proud of my promotion, but that wasn't where I was trying to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the their their their to ma., their their to mogegea. to mogegegeged. to my to my to m. to m. to m. I to mmy my to m m m. I'm to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make a to make a to make a to make a to make a to make a to make my my my to make my to make my to make my to make my to make my the the the the to make my the tooing my tooingrogea. toogea. the toogea. the the the the toogea. the the toogea. toogea. toogea. toemy toejo I was trying to go for the rest of my life. So, you know, I've really looked at it like,
I'm gonna be able to tell my kids one day
that I made a record.
You know, my whole thing is, I could hold it in my hands
and I can show my kids like,
look, your dad made a record one in the gas company.
We ended up doing the first record and we put it out. And a th, and a was number one in Philly. In two weeks, the record was number one in New York.
A week and a half, two and a half weeks, it was in LA. And a month later, we were on top of the pops in London.
So it was kind of like, I don't really understand what's going on, how this is happening.
Me and Will had to look at each other because it was one of them things that he's,. th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. the th. th. the th. th. the thi, thi, thi, the the thi, the thi, thi, their, their, the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, their, to, their, toe. We. And, toe. And, two, their, two, their, two, their, their, their, their, their, each other because it was one of them things that he's like, I think I need to tell my mom and dad that I'm not going to MIT and I want to see how far
this goes.
And I was already like, listen, I already told Roy, I ain't coming back. You know, like, I just turned in my chicken and I ain't coming back. So, and, and you know, it's, it's, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it's, it, it, it's. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to. to, to. to, to. to, to, to. te, te, tell, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, to me, to me, to me, to. to. to. to. to. I ain't coming back. So, and you know, it sounds clicheish, but that was 38 years ago.
And never stopped being a creative.
It means you have no security net if you fall, but you don't have a ceiling.
Oh, I like that. So it's kind of like, listen, I can take the job, you know, listen, at Roy Rogers, I was only going to be the manager. I was never going to own that shit.
I was only the highest thing I can go is being the manager, but I would always have
benefits, I would always have insurance, you know, and that's the ceiling and the floor.
In a creative field, it's kind of like, listen, if I fall, I'm going to fall flat on my face.
But if I rise, I have no idea how high up I'm going to go. Yes.
So, and that's all I ever known.
From the time of me making chicken and Roy Rogers, I never had a plan B. Like I've always believed that a plann, tha plan tha plan, to to to to to to to to to to to to to have the plan, to have the plan, to have to have the plan, to have to have their to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have their, to have to have to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, the. I. theathea. theatea. I. theaugh. toe. toe. toeathea. toe. toeathea. I. I. I've always believed that a plan B means that you think your plan A can fail.
And I had to have it in my head that by no way, shape, a form am I going to fail at this.
I'm curious about how do you convey to the Neal fights, the newbies in this industry, that they have to separate the glitz and
glamour from the business side of being paid to be in the club. Please help them.
You know I've always had people come to me and ask you for advice and I realize the
older that I've got it's harder to give advice because I'm giving advice from a 1984 Jeff,
that that advice does not translate the same way.
You know, in 1984, you could not become successful in a creative field
by copying somebody else. You had to be original.
You had to try to figure out a way that I was going to separate myself.
It used to be this big cliche that Tuesday, all of the new music comes out.
And if everybody is lined up on the shelves, why are they going to pick you?
What is the defining thing in you to make someone pick you?
In today's landscape, copy what everybody else is doing? Like, everybody sounds the same. Like, like, the same. the the the the the the the the the the the the to to to to, to, all. to, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all. to, all, to, the new, the new, the new, the new, the new, the new, the new, the new, the new, the new, the music.e. the new, the the music. the the the the music. the the today, today, all. the today, today's landscape, copy what everybody else is doing.
Like, everybody sounds the same.
Like, you turn the radio on and I'm almost like,
you can take flashcards and change the names of the artist,
because all of the record sound the same.
You like, damn, I didn't know who that was to that one,
because they all sound the same. So, how do I give the young kid advice and say, and say, like, like, like, like, like, like, and say, and say, like, like, like, like, like, and say, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the records sound the same. You like, damn, I didn't know who that was to that one because they all sound the same.
So how do I give the young kid advice and say,
listen, man, you need to go and you need to be 100% original?
He's like, yo, they're gonna laugh me out the club.
If I don't sound like Beyonce or, you know, you know, 14 and there was no rule book, no manual, you know what I mean?
But there's a lot of folks, myself included, who kind of look at you as a pioneer, like you
created the transformer scratch.
But like when you created that shit, were you really thinking, oh shit, I created this?
Or were you thinking like, you know, like this is just something that I thought you
just talking about making yourself separate.
So, like at the time, was it something like that?
Because I, I'm curious, you already, no, I feel about you.
You're a genius.
Like, did you know you was making the shit when you were making the shit?
You know what I mean?
No, not, not at all. Because Kenny Gamble is like a big brother to me.
Always been a big brother, always gave me some of the greatest wisdom.
And one of the things that he said to me is,
whenever you're making history, you don't know when you're doing.
You only know after.
We had no clue. No clue.
Like I said, this started off with me wanting to show my kids I made a record.
I didn't have any dreams or desires for this to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the greatest the greatest their the greatest their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the show my kids I made a record. I didn't have any dreams or desires for this to be a career.
This was, oh shit, I get a chance to make a record.
Everybody wanted to make a record back then.
You know, and it was 14 rap groups back then.
Yeah. It wasn't 1400, it was 14.
And you know, is the anyone saying that on me?
We would, you know, I mean, I don't want to be salty because it took me years to get over
this because I'm ahead.
But y'all beat Tribe called Quest for that first fucking Grammy, bro.
It, I've never forgotten.
Like, there's no testament to technically how good parents just don't understand was. Y'all beat fucking tribe. Like that's a, that's like a collar pop of all time.
Yeah, yeah, I mean, Q-Tip is nice,
but we did best to that for that Grammy.
And like, you know, at the end of the day, like, I tell people all the time, like, the thought that historically where you all stood tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho that's that's that's that's that's that's, that's, that's, that's that's, that, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, th... th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that's like, that's like, the the the that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's Like that's just ill. Like to me, and I, you know, again,
like to think, you all had to be in your teens still,
like the history of that shit.
I think, well, no, I think Will might have been like 20.
I'm like three years old and Will.
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with Michael Jackson's name on it and Whitney Houston's name. I'm like, you know,
I was in the crib last year watching this on television. Like this has been a how the hell did I
get here a moment for 38 years. After the break I want to I want to ask you
and Jiji we'll get to your question on the other side but thank you I want
to talk a little bit about the scams that exist within your industry and you know you
strike me as an honorable brother but I bet you to ran some scams on some of these damn promoters the scams.. their their. their. their. th. th. th. th. I. I. I. I. I I th. I their th. I th. I their th. I their their their their their their their their their their th. I thi. I'm their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I'm thi the. I'm the. to to to to to some scams on some of these damn promoters to get their money.
Really?
Some tricks of the DJ trade.
And also, of course, the homie Narado, aka Rod for short, we'll have him on and he'll
drive all of his good wheel right off into a ditch and then we'll work to rebuild
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We'll be right back.
Job fair.
We're back in this thing.
DJ Jazzy Jeff, we're going to get back to him in a second.
So much knowledge, man.
Man, the same damn question. I need to ask him about the Grammys and whether
not award shows are scam, which I think low-key are a scam. We'll get to him in a second.
But first, this is the part of the show where we give you the job fair listener an opportunity
to scrounge up a couple topics to share with coworkers of the opposite race
as the country opens back up and you have to head back into the workplace.
I'm sure it's getting a little awkward there at your cubicle or your moving truck or
whatever your face-to-face situation is.
How you get your cheese.
To help us do that, we bring on our resident black people, white people, oligists.
He is the pastor of the First Baptist Church of Pimping.
Right now he is looking for his fifth first lady.
All right now.
He is a peanut butter whiskey connoisseur, international gentleman of leisure.
Can't stand simping.
His brother does not stand simping he is undefeated
Against over-the-counter pregnancy test with a lifetime record of 73s
0 and 2
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He's a winner
So you're the winner. We call him Rod for short Rod welcome aboard the special Jazzy Jeff edition of the episode of the episode of the episode of the episode of the episode of of of of of of of of??????? the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the of the of of of of of of of of the of-national the of- national the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the other thing you're the winner. It's a mama name of Marado. We call him Rod for short.
Rod, welcome aboard this special Jazzy Jeff edition of the episode.
We're rapping a little bit earlier there about Yale and stealing computers.
We bring Rod on this program to give you topics to break the ice.
Rod, which way you want to go to them?
We got to get back to Jazz the Jeff here in a second. Turn it open to get ready. Well, speaking of Jazzlin Jeff, I think the only thing
there is to talk about right now and what everybody's talking about, black people and white
people of all races all around the world, talking about Will Smith slapping Chris Rock at the Oscar ceremony.
Now, there's been a lot that's happened in the last couple.
Bill Smith apologized.
Bill Smith resigned from the academy.
I think last week, projects have been suspended left and right.
That Will was starring in and producing and to me it's
feeling a little bit over a cute. Really? I thought I made a mistake. Let's wait to see what
Chris struck. It's hard to stand up for unfair sentencing without sounding like you're condoning
the action because the way the internet
works is you are either A or B. You cannot be in between the two.
There's no new one.
Yes, A is wrong.
But, my fuck, you know, just give them the chair.
If you're all going to do all this shit to us, just give them the, that's what's happening though, J.G. That's what we're, I'm. I I I. I that's what we're. I. That's what we're. That's what we're. That's what we're. that's what we're. that's what we're. the. that's. the. that's. that's. that's. the. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. the. the. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. That's. the. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the raising my voice. We are approaching this digital lynching that I think is starting to exceed what the
crime was.
That, Rod, this is a very divisive issue, especially along race lines.
A lot of black folks that feel like white folks shouldn't even be talking about
this topic.
You want to sign me up on that one.
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what most people are feeling. You just bring it up under the guys of, was it that insane? Because I think
that the reason people are having such a hard problem processing this is because if you're under the age of 50, this is in like, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, and thi, and th, thi, and thi, and thi up thi up, and thi up, and thi up, and thi up, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, th, th, th, the th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, that's that's theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee up thi, thi, this is because if you're under the
age of 50, this is in like the top five craziest things you've ever seen in your lifetime.
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9-11.
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OJ Chase.
O.J. Simpson.
Right. The insurrection.
Right.
Will Smith's slapping the shit out of Chris Rock at the Oscars.
Those, those are the five craziest things that have happened since the, since 1980 here.
And the fact that no one died in the Will Smith.
No one died.
This is true.
But I think another, another reason that people don't understand
what's going on is because everybody on this show right now is black and also a professional
and has rolled in upper crust and white circles and corporate circles. You have to understand
that the people in that room at the Oscars and the people who run the Oscars,
people in those type of situations, the amount of nigger shit they are comfortable with is zero fucking percent.
Talk about. They don't, this stuff doesn't happen where they're from.
This stuff doesn't go on in their society.
They don't know that is not the most serious thing in the world.
Because this is the craziest thing that's ever happened in the 94 years of the awesome.
If you're black, you've seen somebody get the shit snapped out on.
Oh, several time.
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I feel like I feel like we've gone across many different mediums to try and explain the people
Whether it's been cartoons movies songs to try and explain to people this kind of shit and I really think I talked about this the most illustrated moment. I think right now to talk about this the most most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most th of of of the most the most of of the most of of of of of of of of of of of of ofy thi they. ofy. I'm ofy. I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. I they. I th of thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. I's is. I's is thi. I's is thi. I's thi. I's thi. I's thi. thi. thi. theeeean. I's thi. I's thia. I's thiiii. I's thi. I'm thi. I'm their thi. I could think of or you think that you shoot is the boom doctor. The whole world witnessed a nigger moment. I'll
occur to anybody to that's literally what it was and to further argue Rod's
pointing here correctly a lot of people ain't used to seeing that shit that's
just all it was to it. I mean that kind of stuff does happen at
Pratt meetings and other places that's you know black folks and somebody gets offended that shit goes down even among it's not and it's not always the most
glamorous okay right it's not always the most glamorous or elegant it really
just proves that you never know when if somebody's gonna have a human
that's a human that's thrown. That was a human moment that was way
beyond just on some old offense shit or whatever.
That was him and that dude at that point.
That was some human shit.
This is going to be a touchy subject in a lot of office places.
So I just, that's why I wanted to bring this up today.
Just figure out, you know, so you're saying just go to black people.
Wasn't that insane? You can give your take on the different sides of what happened, but yeah, don't, don't meet out any form of punishment yourself.
Don't say what you think should happen to anybody. But there's going to be follow-up interviews. Will is going to have a sit-down,
then they're going to have to ask Jeda, and then Chris Rock, whether it's on stage or something, you'll sit down with Oprah, Gail King or whatever, and there's going to be also deeper discussions about black women's
hair.
There's going to be discussions about bullying.
Like there's so many discussions about therapy, and Will Smith's book and talking about
him being, him witnessing his mother being abused and what triggered him
to protect Jeda. Like, yeah, it's got to get a their their their their their their their their thap, and the, and the, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, and thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, there's, there's, there's going, there's going, there's, there's going, there's going, there's going, there's going, there's going, there's going, there's going, there's going, there's goingiggered him to protect Jada. Like, yeah, it's gotta get buried. And then add on to all their relatives' responses and shit.
I didn't even know Chris Rock had an extra brother.
Tony Rock is not to be talking with.
And to rock will monkey stump anybody in the name of his thing.
Tony Rock is absolutely with the shit.
You know, we joke a lot, right? How do you navigate this conversation without pissing off one of your coworkers or pissing off a woman?
Or, you know, like, that's the part of it that I think people need to be thinking about
as this, as we unpack this over the next couple of months.
But you gotta look at it completely objective.
You gotta find a way to take yourself out of the equation and what you would have done if you were in either one of their shoes and things like that
Or like I said, what you think should happen to Will Smith and all of that because that's
That's very touchy because most people who are black that you're gonna talk to about this. They're gonna make it personal
And because they're gonna make it personal. They gonna take it personal when you start talking about this, they gonna make it personal. And because they gonna make it personal, they gonna take it personal
when you start talking about what your opinion is or what should happen.
Because black people are processing is very internally.
How do you avoid that, man?
I think that's a hell of a question.
You gotta keep your emotions in check.
You gotta not be like Will Smith.
You gotta keep your emotions in check. You gotta not be like Will Smith. You gotta keep your emotions in check in this situation.
Because the craziest thing about this situation is that we saw Will Smith on the best night
of his career, do the worst thing he could have ever done in his career.
It's the ultimate irony.
And that's really the thing that makes this so crazy.
It's also, I think, an issue for black men
who are talking to black women.
Yes.
Who have dealt with hair issues?
And regardless of how you feel about Alapisha being a condition or
it just really happened to me and what about LeBron's headline? Regardless, if you are talking to to to to to to th th to th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, thi, thi and then what about LeBron's hairline? Regardless, if you are talking to a woman co-worker, who's self-conscious about her hair, she's
got wigs and weaves and you feeling flipping about somebody doing a joke about the hair,
you gotta be able to navigate that without getting the HR down.
I just, this just really feels like a topic that just,
my fuck, I can fuck talk about something else
So wait a shit
Let me play devil's casual major league baseball is back talk about baseball just change yourself
I think that there is another thorn to this as well we have to be careful as women not to be masculine as well. I'm not saying that you have to treat them and coddle them or anything like that,
but this is basically a symptom of something.
And then also last but not least I didn't want to see another bad boys anyway, but go ahead.
Yes, now that is the silver, that is a very valid lining in this situation.
The word is bad boys for everybody. And that is that is that is a that is a that is a that is a that is a that is a that is a that is a that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's their their that's their their thi. their their thi. thi. thi. that's thi. that's thi. thi. that's thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th situation is that word is bad boys four has been paused and that's
wonderful news for everybody because we could have done with a bad boy two
I agree that's a good place to stop because now y'all slandering an iconic
franchise but I bet y'all cool with lethal weapon part six coming out
who was in there I don't want to see in there that
are they that even.
Are they a-
They bring him out of retirement from a nursing home?
The podcast is Uncle Rod's Story Corner.
You can get it wherever you download this fine podcast.
Right, as always, brother, thank you for coming through and, um,
to see you next week for 420.
Absolutely.
Absolutely. You got to get the guess for 420. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely.
We gotta get your next guess, Jeff.
Thank you, Rod.
Bless up.
Scam of the weektime.
All right.
Thank you, Rod, as always.
What's he doing?
Being chaotic and unreasonable when we have a decent guess. Jeff, this is part of show we like to talk about, you know, things that you might have stolen
from your job, but things you've seen stolen, some of the slick shit that's been doing on
your world.
I have a couple questions about award shows and I want to go back to your comment about the
music industry and there being a lot of vocal and acoustic similarities in today's music, for the detriment of the culture. J.J, I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I'll that's I'll that's. that's that's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. the. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. for the detriment of the culture. J.G. I'll let you file first because I'm gonna be angry when I get to my shoes.
Oh, we're gonna be angry rappers.
No.
I want to ask you about what you do to make the world a better place and I know you do.
You know it's funny.
I always looked at my job as a DJ as I am a servant of the people.
I think people get the job of a DJ misconstrued. It is not about me. It is about you.
My job is to make sure that if you had a bad week, I'm going to make you forget about that week.
If that girl left you, I'm going to help you find a new one. My job gonna make you forget about that week. If that girl left you, I'm gonna help you find new one.
My job is to strain music together to create an emotion of joy.
So I'm gonna give you an hour and 55 minutes of pure joy, and then I'm going to show my
ass for the last five minutes.
And you were going to walk out and say,
he is the shit.
It's DJ ain't like stand-up comedy
where I get fixated on the one person who's not laughing.
If you have a whole dance for a rocking
and it's one person in the cut just sitting on the wall,
is that who you're kind of like.
I love that.
I love when you got to do rag on and he is the the the the the to to to do the the to do the to do the the the do rag on and he is in the front and he is ice grilling because he is too cool
to move.
And I look at my partner and I smile and I say, how long do you think he's going to take?
How long is it going to take?
Like, and I see, I got a bunch of records.
If you ever heard me play, I got a bunch of records that start off with the sample and it morphs into the record that they use it.
I know, I know was coming.
So I'll throw it on and you always get that, what the fuck is he doing?
And I just sit there with this half-ass smile on, and as it starts to morph, you start to get the look to the side.
And then the eyes get big and it's like, oh shit!
And I'm looking like got you, got you, got you, got you, got you got you's too cool.
Yes, sir. That's what's that. Because it's always somebody, it's always somebody at a party,
that you come for the wrong reason. You're coming because I'm angry and I want to, you know, I'm trying to, I want to show, I want to show the comedian up.
I want to laugh at his stuff. Everybody in the world's laughing, but I'm not. And it's kind of like,
you know, at some point in time, I'm going to break you down. I'm curious. What about taking care of you?
Do you have any hobbies? Like, are you a candle maker or something on the back end? What do you do to take care of you?
You know what's funny? I have a sign on my wall in the studio that said,
music is not what I do. Music is who I am. I don't have hobbies. My hobbies is music. I make music, I play music. You know, it's, that's it. That's it. It's always been like the, and it's, and it's the, and it's the, the, it's the, it's the, it's the, it's the, it's the, it's the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, you know, it's, that's it.
That's it. It's always been like the, and it's the biggest blessing and it's the biggest curse because I got an internal DJ.
And he don't never stop. He don't ever stop. Like at the most inopportune times, he's gonna play public enemy
and you're like, yo, man, I am in church.
So...
The Grammy Awards just happened a couple weeks ago.
Shout out to the homie Trevor Noah for hosting.
And you all were nominated at a time where rap was not respected and rap was not televised.
You know, yourself and Will decided not to even show up
for the damn thing.
And then you had the thing going on with Jay-Z and them
a little bit later as hip-hop grew into the 90s.
And now we're at a time where, you know,
they told Kanye he couldn't come.
But now the conversation,
the weekend didn't go the year before. It was like, I don't get, and y'all can kiss my ass too. Has
rap grown beyond the need for mainstream acceptance or do these awards still matter? Because when we
talk about scams, part of me feels like this idea of performing and creating music for the sake of
trophies has erased some of the originality of the art form.
And what you were talking about earlier in the first break about everybody's sound and
alike, I think a lot of that has to do with the, and you can correct me if I'm wrong here.
But as an outsider, and you know, and I did morning radio during the Crunk era,
I came up Blingera and Crunk Era for the most part. Nelly, a a a little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little the record, every th. Every th. Every th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. And I th. And I, th. And I, th. And I, th. And I, th. And I, th. And I, th. And I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and, and I, and I, and I, and I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I. I, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, the the the th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, the the thi. And, the the thi. And morning radio for the most part. Nelly a little bit of Luda.
Everybody, every record label wants everybody to sound like whoever just had the hit. The radio stations don't want to take a chance on anybody original because they just
want you to play. They just want you to do the hits and those are the people who
were then nominated for the awards. That's why even today Ralph like a group like tribe still wouldn't get fucking they still wouldn't win a Grammy. And do you think that the
award show machine plays a role to a degree in the record labels deciding who
to sign? Who do you give a hundred thou advance to? Then that dictates the lack of originality. Where in the music industry assembly line have
we failed the culture with regards to the lack of originality in what we have now, sonically?
Well, I, you are 100% right, you are 100% wrong in the order. The award show is last in
the line. The record company is first. The record company is first.
So everybody's sounding the same is the fault of the record company because the record company can sign
whoever they want. The record company can sign trial but they just choose to sign someone who sounds like someone
who sounds like someone because
and the harsh reality of it is none of these record companies give a shit about music.
This is a numbers game to do. They are not in the music business. So for the artist,
who really wants to get his art out.
They do everything short of saying we don't give a fuck about it. But, and they, they do everything short of saying we don't give a fuck about it. the. And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the, and, the, and, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the wants to get his art out.
They do everything short of saying, we don't give a fuck about your art.
We really don't.
What we care about is can,
is can your art make some money?
I've always heard that when you all dropped summertime,
it was always a story that I heard like that,
because summertime as far as I'm concerned, that's like my junior senior high school classic.
I know the words that I saw him backwards upside down,
drowning in water.
And like the story I always heard,
the story I always heard, I always heard,
I always heard, I always heard, I always heard,
the story, like, I they didn't see it coming type of thing. They did not, that was the last song that we recorded on the album.
The record label, we put our Girls Ain't Not trouble was our first song, our first song,
on the first album. We put our parents just don't understand and it blew up.
After that, everything they wanted us to do. I will never forget, and I've said this to him, that Dougie Fresh crushed me because
girls ain't nothing but trouble was a cult classic. And the record company
wanted us to do parents just don't understand so bad that they convinced us to go
back in the studio and re-record girls ain't nothing but trouble, kind of like parents just don't understand.
And us not knowing, we were kind of like,
okay, that might be a good idea,
and we did it, and I remember Dougie coming up to me
at a show, and he looked at me and he said,
why'd y'all fuck up, girls ain't nothing but trouble.
And I just looked at him, he was like, what, what, that, there was, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, th, that, there was nothing wrong with that record.
Why did you redo that record to make it a pop record?
And the funny thing is, I didn't know that's what we did.
Oh, like, it wasn't like the record company came and said,
hey, we want pop success out of your first single.
They were just like, yo, you know what would be cool is if you re-recorded, because the recording might have been bad.
And we went in the studio and re-recorded it and it wasn't the same thing. They put you in their seat.
They put you in that hot seat.
You're not gonna give it to the award shows because when you, when you go down
a chain of events, it's the record first.
The record comes out, the radio gets the record, you know, the record company
promotes the record on radio and they play it. They play the record and give them a bunch
of money, cocaine. Absolutely. Absolutely. If we believe in the record, we're going to give you some
some money to play it to see if the people will respond to it. And if they respond to it,
and in a big way, they're going to come see you perform perform the record the record the record the record the record the record the record the record. the record. the record. the people will respond to it. And if they respond to it, and in a big way, they're gonna come see you perform,
they're gonna buy the record,
and so on and so forth.
But it has zero to do.
And I'm talking, this is 1986 that it had,
very little do with creativity in 1986.
Oh, it's zero today. Mm-hmm. Yeah. As far as far that the the creative music that we get, the
mind boggling, oh my God, this is great. When you think about it, it comes fewer and fewer today, you know, fewer.
Oh, my God, Bruno Mars was an anomaly.
Like, oh, shit, Anderson, Pat, what? Where did that come from?
It's not that it's not good music out there. Don't, don't get me wrong.
Here's a bunch of good music. The problem is, yes.
You don't turn the radio on and hear the good music.
You know, I'm not trying to sound bad. To me, radios are dying form. Radio is part of the problem and it's a dying format because it's not breaking new fucking
music.
It's a bunch of, it's 80% of the stations all playing the same 40 songs.
So there's nothing special about any of those stations and that's part of the fucking
problem, which is why even back then. I'm not, I can't speak to Philly now, but there are certain urban markets that protect
the local creatives and fucking put them on and that's why those cities have a unique sound
because it was fostered because the fucking radio station gave a fuck and didn't listen.
DC or didn't care about New Orleans as well, Ralph, where they didn't care about the
national sound.
Like this is what we're doing here here here y'all can either get with it or not.
I don't know the year, when the radio stations started
becoming pretty much Clear Channel and everybody else.
Cumulus, Cox's radio.
That the radio stations adopted the car manufacturer.
Radio one.
Mentality, that it wasn't about the music. We're trying to sell cars. We're to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their. And. And the the the the the their their the their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the radio. I don't the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the radio the radio the radio the radio the radio the radio the radio the radio the radio the radio the radio the radio the radio the radio the radio the radio the radio. I the radio. I the radio. I the radio. I the radio. I the radio. I the radio. I the radio. I the radio. th. tha. tha. tha. thea. thea. thea. th. thea. tha. thea. tha. thea. thea. tha. thea. the th. the the thea. Radio one. Mentality, that it wasn't about the music.
We're trying to sell cars.
We're trying to sell cars.
And once they did that and use that formula
that had zero to do with music, it changed radio.
All right, let's kick it to a break real quick.
Afterwards, I want to talk to you about the hurdles that
DJ's facing. And like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like the the the the the the to the to to to to to to the to to to th, like, like, like, like to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to facing and like trying to get it like I'm trying to get in the DJ game how the hell do I do that job fair we'll be right back Oh, G, DJ, Jazz and Jeffrey.
What are some of the hurdles facing DJs today?
Hey, DJ, you're trying to get in the game, like, you know, how hard is it to try and stand
out?
During the pandemic, guys like D-Nice, guys like myself, guys like Quest Love, us streaming,
we woke up grown folk.
We woke up the- Yes, sir.
Because the one thing that I would always say, the grown folk is the most
underserved community in the world.
We don't have clothes. We don't have music.
Like, I'm sitting in like, yo, either I gotta fucking
wear some Air Jordans or Skechers. Where's my shit?
Oh, bro, talk about that shit.
We are underserved.
So now what happened is we are home sitting there.
And the one thing that I've realized, you know who wasn't streaming young people.
That's right. Young people were sitting in the house waiting for outside to open back up.
You know who is enjoying all of the streams?
Us.
Versus club quarantine.
That's what D. Nice had Oprah.
Club quarantine.
Nice had Michelle Obama listening to him play.
Ask yourself.
Did D. Nice play any new music?
No.
Nothing but classes. Becaing the biggest DJ on the face of the earth,
playing for people in a pandemic, playing nothing but classic music. That should tell you something
about the new music. Look, when we were moving from fucking Virginia to Jersey, it was your,
it was your streams that we played in the background that kept everybody bouncing and
moving. When we got up here to Jersey and started barbecue in the shit
It was your joints that we put and put up on Twitch that made a whole entire neighborhood actually come around and be like
Hey, who are you guys? You're all playing some decent shit. So like thank you man like the streams and stuff what you saying as a grown person? As a grown person who's in that grown person range? I appreciate it man man. Like, you really have like helped a lot of folks,
my damn self included,
because like, man, some of your mixes and your spins
over the last couple of years have just been amazing.
And you still break new artists.
Always. You still break new artists and bring out people.
There was a, there was a young lady not too long ago that you put a EP out which was beautiful.. Yeah,ya? Yeah. Am I right?
From Toronto.
Yeah, man.
I play music like I want the radio to sound.
And I've said, unapologetically, unapologetically, I've said, don't you wish the radio
sound like this?
So, Oji, as we get ready to get you out of here, you know, this is the part of show what we talk about, you know, th, th, th, th, th, th, thu, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th-a, th-a, th-a, th-a, th-a, th-I, th-I, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the th, the the the the the the th, the th, the thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thiiiiii, thii, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, this is the part of show what we talk about, you know, employment and growth,
and, you know, we've already talked about, you know, your adventures as a creative and trusting
your instincts, even when you didn't know what was beyond the horizon, you just knew that you
had to run that direction. even if you get an award is because
somebody paid off one of the people that vote for the shit and then you got to go
and do the tours and they taking your t-shirt money on the tour because of a
360 deal why the fuck why the fuck and how the fuck? Does anyone today get into the...
You said in an interview, I think it was on Drink Champ, shout out to Nori and now over there
and DJF and when you talked about how the separation of the rapper and the DJ, it forced the
DJ to start finding their own way as a performer without the rapper. And now DJs are as popular, if not more popular than rappers, when all they do it's, they, it's, the the they do, they do, they do, they do, they do they do they do they do they do they do they do they do they do their own way as a performer without the rapper.
And now DJs are as popular, if not more popular than rappers, when all they do is just play
hits.
They're not having to ideate, they're not having to create all of that stuff.
So if you're a DJ today in this digital world, how are you able, or what can you do to break into any of this world?
You know, we don't have to get into rap.
Let's just keep it DJs for the sake of brevity.
I think I don't want to say it's simple.
I think you have to approach it like what do people want and what do people need.
And that goes back to when I said a DJ is the servant of the people. Once you understand what the people want and what do people need? And that goes back to when I said a DJ is the servant
of the people. Once you understand what the people want and how to serve them, then you
will work forever. If you can keep people on the dance floor, I can be 95 years old and still
be working. Because that's the goal. The goal is to make people have a good time.
Now where it gets difficult is
When you go into a club today, nobody's dancing.
Nobody.
Everybody is taking selfies.
Everybody is, everybody buys one bottle and you pass the bottle around and everybody takes a picture with it because the bottle is $300 so anybody.
So anybody can't buy a bottle. So you got to take a picture you got to take it. What?
What? You know people ain't dancing in the clubs the more when I see white folks have a dog going
chitcha slide competition in the club? I was like what in the fuck is happening? Why? That's proof. Nobody's dancing. It's think about it. It went from, you know, it went
from pretty much open format and then the EDM thing took over, which, you know, the one thing
that I will say about the EDM thing is the EDM thing, the EDM thing had to dance for a pack. That's true. That's true. That's replaced. That's true. That was a the the the the the the the. Traced. T. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was replaced that was replaced that was replaced that was replaced that was replaced that was replaced that was replaced that was replaced that was replaced that was replaced that was replaced by that was replaced by that was replaced by the the the the the the the that was replaced. That's replaced. the the true. the true. the true. the th. th. th. the the. the. the. That's replaced. That's replaced. that's replaced. That's replaced. That was replaced. That was replaced. That was replaced. That was replaced. That was't know how to dance to track music. So what happens is now you got somebody
who spent $10 million on this amazing nightclub in Las Vegas and the dance floor is full of people
taking selfies. And they're like, okay, shit, what happened? And trap gave way to drill.
Yep. Okay. So why are people just discovering drill. Check, yep. Okay.
Why are people just discovering drill in 2022, man? Why are people just acting like drill just happened, Jeff?
Please tell me that?
Why are people acting like drill just showed up?
Like it's just new.
Like the UK wasn't doing this shit for like 10 fucking years, but now pop smoke
is robbing nigges of a fucking Xanax and shit and now we drill it. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
There's nothing new. I'm sorry. Absolutely. Let me tell you. You could grab one of them EDM
ruckers and line that shit up with Planet Rock and it's the same record. There's nothing new.
We just slap a new label on it and say and give it a name. Let me tell you something, there was no such thing as Neo Soul. What the hell is Neo's Soul?
Like everybody needed to give something a label.
It's soul music.
What's the Neo in it?
Well, you know, Cocoa Butter, we add Cocoa Butter in Twain.
Like, soul music is regular lotion, but cocoa butter is Neo.
Neo inside that doo-doo soap as well, that black soap that you use and shit.
That's what makes it special.
Little chopper incense.
And I hope that you're able to do it until you're 140 years old.
J.G. where's he headed later on this spring and summer?
I think we all need to go as a group.
May 26, he'll be in Austin, Texas at the Mohawk Hot
Luck Fest. Then and this is beautiful. May 29th Pittsburgh P. A. Flying beyond
intergalactic boundaries through Stam. He's the master of the Mike fundraising festival. And then in August from the 26th through the 28th,
he's gonna be in Stockport UK,
so I think we need to travel with them.
That's all sounds right.
If you don't catch him at any of those dates,
you can catch him frying chicken at the real ride on the New Jersey turnpike.
I still got it.
For $2.95. In the New Jersey turnpike. I still got it. With $2.95 in the Walt Whitman Service area.
DJ Jazzy Jeff.
When I say thank you sincerely for the gift that you have given black culture over the past four decades,
I mean it sincerely, sir. Thank you. Thank you for sharing your journey with us. We appreciate you for being a part of the past four decades. I mean it sincerely, sir. Thank you.
Thank you for sharing your journey with us.
We appreciate you for being a part of the Joffair fan.
Anytime.
You and Dilla save my life, yes sir.
I appreciate your.
Yes, sir. We appreciate your J.
Thank you so much.
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That was a good episode, man. We didn't get a chance to ask Jeff why everybody loves the
DJ and the bartender in every rap song. That's always my problem. Every song is DJ, turn it up,
hey Miss DJ. I love the DJ. On tender, give me a drink., security. Security, trying to keep you safe.
You know what, man?
You know what the other thing?
You know we didn't get to ask him as well?
Why in the fuck are there 587 rappers named Little in the game?
It's 587 Little's in the game.
It's 587 Little's.
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I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a smoking.
I'm just, all right, we gotta go because Ralph need to smoke one.
Yeah, right.
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