The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Senators Duck Out of Trump's Impeachment Trial | Kehinde Wiley

Episode Date: January 24, 2020

Senators leave the floor at President Trump's impeachment trial, Desi Lydic reacts to Virginia's Equal Rights Amendment vote, and Trevor interviews artist Kehinde Wiley. Learn more about your ad-choi...ces at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:34 January 23, 2020. From Comedy Central's World News Headquarters in New York, this is the Daily Show, everybody. Thank you so much for tuning in. Thank you for coming out. You sound amazing. You look amazing. Welcome to it. Take a seat, everybody.
Starting point is 00:01:13 Let's make a show. I'm Trevor Noah. Our guest tonight is an artist whose work includes the official portrait of President Barack Obama, Kehindi Wiley is joining us, everybody. Also on tonight's show, senators are walking off the job. The Constitution could be getting an upgrade and why your next date might end in handcuffs and not in the fun way. So let's catch up on today's headlines. Let's kick it off with some international news. There's a big political scandal involving Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.
Starting point is 00:01:49 And you may remember that Trudeau just survived another scandal when he was busted for doing brown face 20 years ago at an Aladdin party. But this time, my friends, Trudeau may have really gone too far. It's a donut drama for Justin Trudeau. The only in Canada controversy started with the Prime Minister tweeting a photo of himself carried boxes from the O'Donets shop in Winnipeg to help fuel a wintertime cabinet meeting. Some on social media praised Trudeau for supporting a local business. Others criticized him for buying about $200 worth of elitist donuts instead of hitting
Starting point is 00:02:23 the local Tim Hortons at about a third of the price. Really Canada? That's your scandal? Your Prime Minister brought the wrong donuts? If this shit pisses you up you guys wouldn't last a day with Donald Trump. Donuts? Donuts? I can't even believe that's a thing. Let me tell you something now. If Trump had a donut scandal, he'd make it a real scandal. He'd be like, yes, I had sex with that donut.
Starting point is 00:02:55 But only because it promised me dirt on Joe Biden. Also, I love how some Canadians are upset because they say Trudeau didn't go to the local donut shop, Tim Hortons. That's what they said. They said, why did you go to this elitist place instead of the local Tim Hortons? Okay, there's nothing local about Tim Hortons, all right? It's a giant corporation. Right? When these people go to McDonald's be a little careful with these donuts, yeah,
Starting point is 00:03:26 because he could start eating a chocolate one, get a little bit of the frosting on his face. Yeah, and then go to wipe it off and then it's everywhere and then he's just like, I can show you the world. All right, let's move on to some news from the world of tech. Tinder, it's the app that helps you that helps you you you you you you you that helps you that helps you that helps you that helps you that helps you that helps you that helps you that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's tooom. tooom. too. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. te. te. te. te. the the the the the thea. the thea. too. to to too. to too. t. Tinder. It's the app that helps you find that special someone you could be with for the rest of your night. And now, after years of getting people laid, Tinder is now trying to get people safe. Well, the popular dating app, Tinder is unveiling new safety features today. They include a photo verification system, a panic button, and the ability to call authorities to their exact location. T will use this technology as part of its safety features.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Critics have complained that Tinder has not done enough in the past to screen out scammers and assault suspects. Yay, good job Tinder. Good job Tinder. Oh, seriously, any time you can make dating more safe, that's something you should do. I just hope this feature isn't tendon. If you can like, tha, thiiiiii, if thi, if thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to to to to tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t.. And, t, t, t. And, t. And, tso. And, tso. And, tso. And, tso. And, tsoo, ttsoo, tttend, ttendon. And, tttttend, tf.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a. tend, tendon. And, tend, tend, tend, tindery, you know? If you can like call for help on Tinder, I hope it's like, just help. I hope it's not like, I need help, send a cop. No, not him.
Starting point is 00:04:27 No, not him. No, not him. Yeah, I guess he's okay, okay, okay. And I do think it's a good feature, but I know some people are gonna abuse it. You know, like, Mike Pence would be hit,. But now then Tinder and Uber both have panic buttons, I feel like every app should have them. You know, every app. Like if you're on Instagram and you accidentally like your exes
Starting point is 00:04:54 three-month-old photo, you should be able to hit a button, and then they send a team to help you start a new life. All right, moving on. The World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland is wrapping up, and one of the stars of the event was climate activist Greta Tumberg, who blasted politicians for continuing to ignore global warming. But now, one of Trump's minions is firing back. U.S. Treasury Secretary Steve Minuchin unleashes a verbal attack on teen climate
Starting point is 00:05:22 activist Greta Thunberg. Both are at the World Economic Forum in Switzerland. She said in a speech, she wants businesses worldwide to stop investing in fossil fuels. Manuchin told reporters, considering her an economist is a joke and she needs to come back after she goes to college and gets an economics degree. Yeah. Steve Minutchen, U.S. Treasury Secretary and Skin Covid Stapler, says that Greta should go to school before she comments on the global economy. That's what he said.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Those are his words. Why don't you go to school, Greta before you comment on the economy? And that doesn't make any sense, because since when does the Trump administration listen to anyone with an education? That makes no education. Seriously, this is not a White House that cares about qualifications. Their education secretary has no education experience. They put a sleepy doctor in charge of all urban housing. And the current head of the EPA was a coal lobbyist, a coal lobbyist, all right? Forget an environmental science degree.
Starting point is 00:06:17 This dude probably can't even do basic bird watching. He wouldn't know the difference between a red-breasted mugginsor and a yellow-bellied sapsucker, your bird-ign, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-s-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, thui-s, thied sapsucker, you're bird-ignorant mother-feeh. I mean for crying out luck, Ivanka! Ivanka Trump is an advisor to the president. What is her expertise? Huh? What is it? Is Trump in a meeting like, Ivanka, help us out. We have to decide whether or not to bomb Iran, you sold shitty jewelry, unsuccessfully for 10 years, what do you think? All right, and finally, if you are at the Los Angeles airport right now waiting for your Uber, then you definitely have time to watch this next story. Now to the traveled nightmare that is unfolding at airports and it has nothing to do with planes.
Starting point is 00:06:58 LAX recently rolled out a new pickup system which funnels taxi and ride-chair passengers from the terminals to an external parking lot. Some passengers claim to have waited in line for upwards of three hours trying to catch their ride. The idea was to streamline the process. The result, chaos. Okay, no, no.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Three hours is way too long to wait for a ride. Forget the planes. People are just going to be like, we're all to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have their to have their their to have to have to have to have to have to have to have their. theirmeaq. I theirc. I. Iaq. Iaq. Iaq. Iaq. Iaq. Iaq. Iaq. Iaq. Ia. Ia, theirn. Ia, theirn. Ia, theirn. Ia, theirn. Ia, theirn. Ia, theirn't, their their their, tho. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, ta. I'm, ta. I'm, ta'a'a'er.a'er. I'm, ta'er. I'm, th. I'm, tha a ride. Forget the planes. People are just going to start hijacking airport shuttles. Yeah, I'm just going to be like, we're all going to my hotel. Nobody try anything stupid. What's interesting here is that the reason ride sharing apps are causing chaos at the airport was because it took forever for passengers to find their driver. That's why I think the solution should just that you can just jump in any car and go. Yeah, not even any Uber, just any car.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Yeah, I mean she's not your mom, but she's somebody's mom, okay? I drive with your mom, I drive with your uncle. You know what I mean? Mom's, we do that. And you know what the story shows us is that we've all gotten a little too attached to Uber. Because five years ago, there was no Uber picking you up at the airport. And people figured out other ways to leave the airport. Why can't we do that again? All right? Like, there's a city bus that stops at LAX. So just hop on that. Take it to whatever shit hole it goes to and then call it Uber from there. All right, that's it for the headlines. Let's move on, to our top top top top top top top top top top top top top top to to to to to to our to our story story story story story story story story story story.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Impeachment. It's like marriage story for democracy. And while Canadians are angry, their Prime Minister bought fancy donuts, America's president is being accused of trying to rig an election. So let's catch up on the latest developments in another installment of the magical, wonderful road to impeachments. The magical, wonderful, and beautiful people. It's probably presidential harassment. impeachment. So today was the third day of the impeachment trial of Donald Jemima Trump. It's probably presidential harassment. So, today was the third day of the impeachment trial of Donald Jemima Trump. And Democrats continued to lay out a meticulous case that Trump abused his power and is now
Starting point is 00:09:03 trying to cover it up. They've given floor speeches, they've shown video evidence, they even brought out the Constitution and had to tell everyone where Trump touced it. But no matter how compelling the evidence might be, I have major doubts about whether it's going to change anyone's mind. Because you see, a lot of these senators haven't exactly been glued to their seats. Many of the senators from both parties were MIA at different times, despite rules which require them to stay put. At one point during the evening session, 15 GOP senators' seats were empty,
Starting point is 00:09:33 and 12 Democratic seats were empty. Corey Booker, seen with his iPhone in the cloakroom. Senator Lindsey Graham was gone for, oh, at least an hour or so in the evening. Democratic Senator Dian Feinstein, she left, thiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, Dianne Feinstein, she left about an hour and a half early as well. Okay, this is not a good look, people. Senators are just leaving the room and then doing their own thing in the middle of an impeachment trial. You can't just walk away. This isn't a conversation with Ted Cruz.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Because you understand, these senitcers are jurors in a trial against the president. You can't just go home early because you're bored? That's your job. Imagine if normal people try to pull that shit in the middle of jury duty. If someone was just like, oh, now I've got to hear from the victim's wife. Ugh. I'm out of here. Text me if something cool happens.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Like, you know what, if you didn't want want want to work you shouldn't have become a senator okay yeah you should have stuck with race car driving. Mitch McConnell. Yeah but you didn't like what the wind did to your neck flaps. And while American senators are looking for a way to get out of these proceedings America's president is looking for a way to get in. The president seemed to relish the idea of crashing the impeachment trial and staring down Democrats himself. So what do you think? Will you show up at your trial any way, shape and form?
Starting point is 00:10:56 So why don't you go? I don't know. I'd sort of love to sit right in the front row and stare their corrupt corrupt corrupt corrupt corrupt corrupt corrupt corrupt corrupt corrupt corrupt corrupt corrupt corrupt corrupt corrupt corrupt corrupt corrupt corrupt corrupt corrupt corrupt corrupt corrupt corrupt corrupt corrupt corrupt corrupt corrupt corrupt corrupt corrupttheir corrupt faces. You know Trump, Trump is like that guy who always tells you what he'd do in a fight. He's like, oh man, if I saw that guy out hit him with a left and ducked and come in a wham, pow, boo. It's like, so are you going to fight him then? Oh, we'll see. But I'm busy. I'm busy. I'm really busy. So yeah. Trump says he wishes he wishes be at that impeachment trial to look his accusers in the face and I wish he would go to the impeachment trial too because if he's locked up in a room for 12 hours at a time he wouldn't have
Starting point is 00:11:34 time to be doing things like this. The new rollback is expected to be announced today that could potentially put more pollution into our waters. The changes would scale back which waterways qualify for protection against pollution under the Clean Water Act. President Trump says this would benefit farmers who will no longer have to fear farming their federally protected creeks. However, government report shows real estate developers would see the most benefit. Oh, that's a weird coincidence.
Starting point is 00:12:05 A new rollback on water protections will benefit real estate developers, and it was passed by a real estate developer who hasn't drank water since the 70s. What are the odds? Why don't I feel like all of Trump's policies are just really him trying to help himself? Like, I wouldn't be shocked if we find out the real reason Trump killed Soleimani was because he gave Trump's hotel one star on Yelp.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Like, I wouldn't be shocked. Because this is, it's insane. It's an insane policy. The world is going to be flooded, and Trump is like, wait, poison the water first. I want to make this the best apocalypse of all time. But I mean, at the same time, maybe we do need a little more pollution. Because let's be honest, there has been a little too much clean water.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Yeah? I mean, like the other day I went for a swim in the Hudson. My skin barely burned. That's not why I moved here. So yeah. Yeah, senators are playing hooky during impeachment, and Trump is destroying the environment. But hey, at least he didn't buy donuts. We'll be right back. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968,
Starting point is 00:13:11 there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible.
Starting point is 00:13:40 I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes, a second look, starting September 17th, wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back to the D.A.S. Show. Almost everyone knows one of the hardest things to do in America is pass an amendment to the Constitution. It's harder than shooting a pono on the Amtrak quiet car. Because, you see, in order to be added to the Constitution. It's harder than shooting a porno on the Amtrak quiet car. Because you see, in order to be added to the Constitution, the amendment needs to pass in the House, needs to pass in the Senate and be ratified by 38 states. And how can you get 38 states to agree on anything? I mean, think about it. You can't even get states to agree on potato salad. Yeah. I mean, if you show up to an Atlanta cookout with raisins, the only thing getting barbecued
Starting point is 00:14:27 is your ass. In fact, it's so tough to get through this crazy process that it's been 30 years since the Constitution has been amended. But this week, Virginia may have gotten America one step closer to a new amendment. USA Today reports Virginia became the 38th state to pass the Equal Rights Amendment. The Equal Rights Amendment was first introduced to Congress in 1923. It took 49 sessions to finally get it passed in 1972. The ERA as it's known reads, equality of rights under the law shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of sex.
Starting point is 00:15:08 Wow, women are now equal in America. Also, also, wow, women are now equal in America? Because I mean, that statement sounds good, but it doesn't make you feel good. It would be like if Popeyes came out saying, great news, from now on our chicken sandwich is 100% real chicken. And you'd be like, wait, what was I eating before? Don't ask? Don't ask? Shut up, get in the box. But don't get too excited just yet, because it turns out that amendments are like avocados. They only last for so long.
Starting point is 00:15:47 Is it too late for the Equal Rights Amendment to become law? The Office of Legal Counsel says it's simply too late for the ERA, pointing out the deadline was in 1982. Five states that ratified the ERA decades ago have since rescinded those votes. We have word that there will certainly be court challenges whether or not it holds it up or not is the question. Okay, no, I'm sorry, hold on. So they've been trying to pass this Equal Rights Act for Women's Rights
Starting point is 00:16:13 thiii, their 1920s. They finally get enough states, but now it may not count because they missed some arbitrary deadline. Who puts a deadline on women's rights? Huh? Who uses like Cinderella's fairy godmother? Yeah, because she was an asshole with her rules. Be home by midnight or you'll die alone. It's like what the hell grandma? I'm trying to smash a prince. And you're gonna turn my carriage into a pumpkin? What if I'm doing 50 on the freeway? You're gonna kill me? This is some bipity-bopty bullshit! Because really it makes no sense You're gonna kill me? This is some bipity-bopity bullshit.
Starting point is 00:16:46 Because really, it makes no sense. It makes no sense. Just because the law is a little bit late, doesn't mean the whole thing has to be scrapped. Like if you're late for a movie, they don't lock you out of the theater. They let you come in, and then your punishment is that you just have? What is this about? But still, as a woman in America, this must be really depressing. To wait 100 years, to officially have equal rights, and then watch it all slip it away.
Starting point is 00:17:13 I guess the best person to ask would be an actual woman, so please give it up for Desi Lydic everybody! What's going on, Desi Lydic, everybody! What's going on, Desi? Trevor, this is so frustrating. After a century of teasing, they bring us to the point of ratification and then say it's not the right time? I guess women finally know what it's like to have blue balls. Yeah, Desi, I can totally understand your frustration. What I don't understand is why are you black and white?
Starting point is 00:17:46 Well, I could ask you the same question, Trevor, but I won't. I won't because it's racist. No, no, Desi, I mean, why are you in black and white? Like, you look like you're in the 1920s. Because, Trevor, I feel like I'm in the 1920s. Women don't have equality. Nazis are back in the news. I've even got a case in the measles. And yeah, maybe it's because I'm on an anti-vaxer dating site,
Starting point is 00:18:08 but what are going to say? I like the bad boys. No, Desi, come on. I know men and women are still not on the level playing field, but you don't have to living in the 1920 style. The glitz, the glam, all that jazz. I'm even learning the Charleston. Hey, do the Charleston, all right? Desi, that's not the Charleston.
Starting point is 00:18:35 No, I think it is. I don't think it is. And yes, America's moving slowly toward equality, but I don't think that's any reason reason reason reason reason reason reason reason reason reason reason reason reason reason reason reason reason reason reason reason reason reason reason reason reason reason reason that's any reason to give up Desi. I don't care anymore Trevor it's too depressing. Even female amendments get ignored after they turn 35. I don't care if it is prohibition. This gal needs a drink. No Desi don't drink out of his shoe. What are you doing? Oh relax Trevor it's not my shoe. Now if you excuse me, a man named Gatsby moved in down the block and something tells me he's legit. Desilatic everyone, we'll be right back. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it.
Starting point is 00:19:18 This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes a second look on Apple podcasts starting September 17. Welcome back to the daily show. My guest tonight is a world-renowned visual artist best known for his portrait of President Barack Obama.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Please welcome, Kehindi Wiley. Welcome to the Daily Show. Thank you. Good to be here. And congratulations on what I can only assume must feel like a whirlwind ride. It has been quite the right indeed. You've been an artist for a very long time, but you can't deny getting to create the official portrait for the first black president of the United States was one of the highlights of your life, I'm assuming. I'm assuming it's probably going to be on my tombstone. I have to say that being the first African-American artist to paint the portrait of the first African- together is quite the honor as well. I can imagine. And then the question is how do you make that something that is vibrant? How do you make
Starting point is 00:20:55 painting alive in the 21st century? Right. Those are big challenges. There must be a lot of pressure that comes with painting those those portraits as well because it's not just a portrait for Obama. That's a portrait that's supposed th th th that's th that's th that's th that's that's th right th right th right th right th right th right th right th right th right th right th right th right th right th right th right th right th right thi the thi the their thi thi the the their thi's quite quite quite quite quite quite quite quite their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. th. th. th. that's quite quite quite quite quite quite quite th. th. th. It's th. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. thii. It's quite thii. thiii. It that's a portrait that's supposed to live throughout time. That's right, that's right. In fact, what you have is a situation where it's like no pressure or anything but this is history. And what we wanted was something that played into all the rules around dignity and respect and power, but also a portrait that communicated who Obama is. You know, he really wanted a portrait that didn't have all that sort of
Starting point is 00:21:29 pomp and circumstance. If you look at the portrait closely he's leaning in towards the viewer. He's dressed rather casually for a presidential portrait and there's a bunch of flowers and leaves behind him. Right, there are a bunch yes. Which people had never are a bunch, yes. Which people had never seen before in a portrait, I remember when it came out, there were a lot of people making jokes where they're like, we've never seen this many leaves. And like it felt more,
Starting point is 00:21:53 it felt less like it was just about the subject and more about the subject in the world they were I remember seeing Bart Simpson coming out of the, Oh, the Homer Simpson in the bushes? That's right. But what few people don't realize is that those flowers are telling a story about his life. So there are flowers from Kenya. There are flowers from Indonesia. There's the state flower of Hawaii.
Starting point is 00:22:18 And so it really charts his life globally as a means of saying, this man is at once very American but engaging on a global conversation. That's beautiful. Yeah. That is really beautiful. What did he say when he saw the portraits? I think, Jesus, I can't quite remember because we were all on stage. The first time he saw the portrait was that moment where we were pulling down. That's a lot of pressure. Oh my god. No, I mean like that, I would like show it to him beforehand and be like, what do you, because I mean, like, what if you pull down the thing? And then he's like, ah, uh, uh, uh, the, uh, weren't you stressed at that moment?
Starting point is 00:22:49 I would stress more than you can imagine. But when I get stressed more than, sat there and took it all in. And since then, you have been on a journey that has really been beautiful to watch. Because, you know, people have noticed your art, and your art is art that I feel needs to be noticed. Because you do something that's really interesting. You know, you create art that we're familiar with in an unfamiliar way. One of the more interesting pieces that you created was Rumors of War. I hope some people saw it when it was in New York City, right?
Starting point is 00:23:27 And it's a beautiful, I mean, statue, that's, I mean, it's a Confederate statue in its style, and yet you come up close and you see this young black man who's wearing Jordans and he's got jeans on and he's got a hoodie and he's riding this horse in a way that we associate with Confederate statues. What was the symbolism and why did you choose to create that piece? Right. I mean, Confederate sculptures have been haunting and terrorizing Americans for, what, a good 50, 60 years now. Most people think these things go back to slavery.
Starting point is 00:23:59 They actually go back to as late as the 1930s and 50s. Wow. These sculptures were designed to remind African Americans of their place in society, and they're still in major parts of the South. I went to Richmond on a trip and I saw one of these sculptures and I said, you know what, this is a language this powerful, and it's one that I want to be able to use, to sort of inhabit it, to haunt it. And so I found several African-American men, merged all of their features,
Starting point is 00:24:27 created this kind of every man on a horse and recreated those monuments for the 21st century, to create sort of a new way of saying yes to people who happened to look like me. It is really beautiful in how it does that, because I remember going to Times Square when it was here because it's now moved to Virginia. But, but I remember standing there and I was shocked at how many people were coming up and just pointing.
Starting point is 00:24:50 Little kids were going like, look, look, that hair, like, you know, he's got dreadlocks like me and you know, he's got this. And it really was a touching moment that people took for granted where people to, themselves, which some haven't seen for a very long time. Yeah, I mean that's the power of art. We all go to museums and we all feel inspired by these images of dignity and grace. And it means something when young African-Americans kids can go into a museum and see someone who looks like themselves. It gives a sense of I belong to the conversation around power. Who has it? Who's allowed to inherit that dignity? You have a piece that is now going to be on display, and this is really interesting.
Starting point is 00:25:30 It's called Napoleon Leading the Army over the Alps. And that piece is really gorgeous because it was designed to mimic the original Napoleon piece. Right. But again, you've changed it to be something different, something, and it's going to be hanging up right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right, the the the the the to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thoes.e. the thooooes.e. the the the th.oooes. toe. toe. toe. toe. to, to, to, to, changed it to be something different, something, and it's going to be hanging up right next to the Napoleon piece in Brooklyn. It is a bizarre situation where we're actually dealing with a historical conversation. I'm borrowing the same pose from a painting that was made by David during the time of Napoleon. And now I've got a young black man in jeans.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Excuse me, he's wearing camouflage, right, and Thames, and he's embodying that sense of Brooklyn bravado, but within the language of great European paintings. What I wanted to do was to be able to have the original historical object and my object in the same room, and the Brooklyn Museum said yes. So now we have an opportunity for the first historical object and my object in the same room. And the Brooklyn Museum said yes. So now we have an opportunity for the first time to have this temporal shift, this drift, this ability to look at not just some guy who's playing with history,
Starting point is 00:26:37 but the object from the past in the same room. It's a great honor. One thing you've been commended for, and it really is special to see, is how you portray women in your arts as well. You have beautiful portraits of women, black women who have natural hair, but they also, they're in regal positions that we associate with, you know, like the British Empire, monarchy is wearing armor. You have women who, you know, it's pictures that we associate with masters as opposed to those that have been enslaved.
Starting point is 00:27:09 And these women are grand in a very different way than we're used to seeing. Why do you choose to do that? Like, what is the purpose behind that? Well, artists paint what they're familiar with. I paint what I've known, and what I've known are powerful black women who've given me a sense of self-worth, a sense of dignity, and that is what you see mirrored in my work. And sure, there's a little bit of play that goes on, there's a play with how silly the clothing looked back in 500 years ago in paintings.
Starting point is 00:27:37 The same thing's going to happen now. The contemporary clothes that the women wear in my paintings is going to start looking really silly, just like those silly neck things that are in all those old Dutch paintings. Oh yes, yes, those things. I think they were going to catch breadcrumbs or something. Yeah, I remember those. Yeah. Well, you know, you can imagine that in 300 years. this stuff decays.
Starting point is 00:27:58 It's just going to become a blend a a b a ba a b a blend, to become become become become become become a blend, feel like? Well we all decay, we all leave this earth but these paintings will be here for centuries and what I want to be able to do is to say yes to people who look like me, yes to moments of grace and small things that we oftentimes ignore and to make us all feel as though we were there for something that mattered. I think you do an amazing job of that. Thank you so much for being on the show. Cahindy's exhibits at the Brooklyn Museum opens January 24th and his show in London opens February 21st.
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