The Daily Show: Ears Edition - So Much News, So Little Time - 2026 World Cup & Bill Clinton's Dodgy Interview | Ian Bremmer

Episode Date: June 14, 2018

Trevor dives into the latest barrage of headlines, Lewis Black rants about how U.S. schools are responding to mass shootings, and author Ian Bremmer discusses "Us vs. Them." Learn more about your ad-...choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:31 you get your podcast. June 13, 2018. From Comedy Central's World News headquarters in New York. This is the Daily Show with Trevor Noah, Ears Edition. Welcome to the Daily Show, everybody. Thank you so much for tuning in. I'm Trevor Noah. You're amazing. Let's get into it. My guest tonight is a political scientist with a fascinating, he's got a fascinating new book about populism versus globalism. Spoiler alert, populism wins. Ian Bremers here, everybody!
Starting point is 00:01:20 First up, let's catch up on today's headlines. First up, let's catch up on today's headlines. The phrase viral raccoon probably makes you think of a disgusting, rabid animal, or maybe a sex position. But yesterday, viral raccoon had a much different meaning. A Minnesota raccoon is an internet sensation this morning after captivating the world with a daredevil stunt. Keeps moving. The animals set at sites on St. Paul's UBS Tower, one of the city's tallest skyscrapers, and started to climb. One floor at a time, pausing for naps and breaks and accruing an international audience along the way. Finally, after many attempts to lure it to safety, the raccoon made it to the roof.
Starting point is 00:02:09 Yes! Oh yes! The raccoon made it. I love how desperate people are for an uplifting story nowadays. It's like, oh what? Wondrous news? A raccoon is climbing something tall than usual. Life is beautiful again. Guys, he's a raccoon. I I I I I I I I I I, I, I, I, I, I, I thake. I thi. I thine, I the race, I the race, I the race, I thi. I the raccun, I the raccun, I the raccoon, I the raccoon, I the raccoon, I the raccoon, I the raccoon, I the raccoon, the raccoon, the raccoon, the raccoon, the raccoon, the raccoon, the raccoon, the raccoon, the raccoon, the raccoon, the raccoon, the raccoon, I the raccoon, I the raccoon, I the race, I the race, I the race, I the race, I the race, I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thiole, I thiole, I thiole, I coon is climbing something tall than usual. Life is beautiful again. Guys, he's a raccoon.
Starting point is 00:02:28 I don't care what he climbs up. As soon as he's back on the ground, people are going to call animal control on him. And look, I get it, I get it. I'm used to Americans freaking out about animal stories. But just so you know, this would never happen in Africa, mostly because our animals than animals than animals than animals thua than an animals why the raccoon was climbing this building, you know, did he think it was a massive garbage can? Was he trying to get French citizenship? Either way, that racoon is our hero at least until someone discovers his racist tweets. Then it all comes apart. Well, that was a fun story. Let's move on to some real news.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Oohsh. Some days, there's so much news going on. It feels impossible to get through it all. Thankfully, though, too much news is just the right amount for a news segment we call, Ain't Nobody Got time for that. First up, Michael Cohen, President Trump's personal attorney and guy who looks like he's always reading bad news about himself. Cohen has more inside information about Donald Trump than probably anyone else in the
Starting point is 00:03:38 world. So the news that Cohen is now likely going to cooperate with federal investigators is not great news for the White House. And I can't wait to see how Trump is going to try distance himself from Cohen. He'll be like, look, when I said Michael Cohen, to me, I meant because I barely know him. I think he's a loser, and I want nothing to do with him. Now, we could talk about how Michael Cohen flipping could be the biggest legal problem
Starting point is 00:04:05 for President Trump since he found out the Constitution isn't just a list of suggestions, but we don't have the time for that. Because a federal judge has approved one of the biggest corporate mergers in American history. Now to that blockbuster deal that could have a major effect on your phone and TV bills and the kind of service you get. A federal judge approving AT&T's $85 billion takeover of Time Warner. This makes AT&T an extremely powerful company. And what it means for the consumer is that now housed under one roof will be satellite,
Starting point is 00:04:35 wireless, HBO, CNN, TNT, TBS and Warner Brothers. Finally, Time Warner and AT&T are joining forces. This is such great news for consumers because now we can get all of our horrible customer service in one place. So dope. It's going to be interesting to see what AT&T does with HBO though, you know, like are they going to be cross-promoting? Like you'll be watching Game of Thrones and instead of sending a Raven John Stowe is just going just gonna face time, is that what happens? Like, Joel Snow, when are you gonna come back and visit me? With this amazing unlimited data plan,
Starting point is 00:05:12 I don't need to. Now, opponents of the merger are concerned that concentrating so much power in one media company could stifle competition, raise prices, and even affect content. But honestly, as somebody in the media, I can assure you that it won't change anything. For instance, our parent company, Viacom, was just bought by Dejornos. And that doesn't affect what we report on the show, right? In other news, Sboros, is it the devil's pizza? Well, all the pedophiles
Starting point is 00:05:47 who love it say yes. Now, if we had time we'd delve into the world of corporate mergers and we'd look at how media consolidation could lead to monopolies and consumer choice reducing, but luckily we don't have time for that boring shit because America just won the World Cup hosting responsibilities. Now to that breaking news about the World Cup hosting responsibilities. None of that breaking news about the World Cup. Just moments ago, soccer's governing body announcing that a joint North America bid by the U.S., Canada and Mexico won the right to host the 2026 games, beating Morocco 134 to 65.
Starting point is 00:06:17 There have been concerns about the President's travel ban. President Trump has sent three letters to FIFA, assuring officials that foreign teams and their fans will be able to travel to the United States if North America's chosen. Okay, quick question. Why is Trump promising he'll allow people to come to the United States in 2026? Because even if he won a second term, he'd be done in 2025. That's some dictator level confidence right there. She's like, don't worry, in 2026,
Starting point is 00:06:47 I'll allow you all to come into my country. It's like, but you won't be present then? That's what you think. And you know when you think about it? This makes sense. Soccer is definitely the sport for Donald Trump. Yeah, it's the only sport that involves building walls. And he'd he he he faking injuries since Vietnam. He'd love it. Oh I can't play. Ah, my heels burn.
Starting point is 00:07:13 But that's right, America has won the bid to host the FIFA World Cup. And it's just funny how a few years ago, Americans were like, FIFA's a corrupt organization that can't be... What? We won the bid? We won the bid? We won the bid! We won the bid! FIFA's normal now, we won the bid. And you know what is surreal? Is that when the United States, Canada and Mexico started bidding for the World Cup, the three countries were friends.
Starting point is 00:07:36 But now the way things are going, by the time the 2026 World Cup, fans are going to be running through war zones to get to games and be like, go! And you know what, I'm not going to lie. I could spend a lot of time talking about the World Cup, but this is America, so I know we've got to move on. Which I guess is something I bet Bill Clinton wishes the media would do too. Former President Bill Clinton still out promotingms of what you can do to somebody against their will, how much you can crowd their space, make them miserable work. Former President Bill Clinton is in the news tonight facing a new firestorm for his answers in an interview in this Me Too to era.
Starting point is 00:08:18 He was asked whether he owes Monica Lewinsky an apology. Do you feel like you owe her? I never talked. to. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to me to me to me to me the tooicicicui. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thiiiolue, thoomoomorrow, thoomorrow, tooomorrow, tooomorrow, tooomorrow, tooomorrow, tooomorrow, thoomorrow, the the the the the the No, I do. I never talked to her, but I did say publicly on more than one occasion that I was sorry. Someone should ask you these questions because of the way you formulate the question. What? That is one of the weirdest moments I've ever seen in an interview. He just flipped it and asked the journalist the question. Like I wish OJ had done that in his trial. Why don't you try the glove? It fits. And by the way, his new book is called,
Starting point is 00:08:51 The President is Missing. And at this point, it sounds less like a mystery novel and more like his fantasy. It's like, Mr. President, we've got some additional questions about Monica Lewinsky. Where do you go? Where do you go? The president is missing. We'll be right back. John Stewart here. Unbelievably exciting news. My new podcast, The Weekly Show.
Starting point is 00:09:13 We're going to be talking about the election, economics, ingredient to bread ratio, on sandwiches. Listen to the weekly show with John Stewart, wherever you get your podcast. Welcome back to the Daily Show. When a news story falls through the cracks, Lewis Black catches it with a segment we call back in black. It's June, which means the end of another school shooting season. And while Congress is working hard to pass gun control, schools have had to resort to extreme measures to keep kids safe. There is a school in Indiana that's been called the safest in America, complete with
Starting point is 00:10:01 state-of-the-art technology to keep intruders and shooters out. Security breach! At Southwestern High School in Indiana, the kids drill. I've seen they're all running past this red line. What is that? The red line is a security measure, and that's in place, because if we stand behind this red line, if there's a shooter at the door, they cannot see the children. The kids have to crouch behind behind behind behind behind behind behind behind behind behind behind behind behind behind behind behind behind behind behind behind behind behind behind behind behind behind behind behind behind behind behind behind behind behind their their their their their their their their their their the door they cannot see the children. The kids have to crouch behind a line on the floor and hide behind their textbooks. When I was in school, the only thing I had to hide was my boner. Because that was because Mrs. Malloy drew a number eight that looked like boobs.
Starting point is 00:10:39 Anyway, since this school knows guns aren't going away any time soon, they have to go above and beyond to protect their students. The school's secret weapon called Hot Zones, exploding smoke cannons hidden in the ceiling. There is smoke. It is loud and it's meant to disorient. The suspect, I mean, look at this, the smoke is filling the hallway, you can barely even see me. Whoa. I love this idea, but it's way too expensive for every school. You don't need fancy machines
Starting point is 00:11:16 to fill a high school with smoke. Just get your J.V. Lacrosse team to do it with their vape pens. Now you're blind and you smell like rasilberry. So that all seems pretty high-tech but some schools are getting back to basics. One company is arming eighth graders with a bulletproof plates as they're welcome to high school gift. Safe shield. It's a super lightweight reversible Kevlar based shield meant to be slid into a backpack. The graduating eighth graders at St. Cornelia seemed unsure just what to make of their welcome to high school gifts. The kind of gifts they pray they will never have to put to use.
Starting point is 00:11:56 I'm not saying this is a bad idea but just look at those kids faces. Something tells me this isn't the welcome to high school gift they they were th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the thean thean thean thean thean thean. thean thean thean thean thean thean this isn't the welcome to high school gift they were hoping for. But then again, how do you gift wrap a hand job? So they have solutions for the students who are actually old enough to be disappointed by life? But what about the younger kids? Well, don worry, mother goose is on the case. A kindergarten class is drawing attention for using a lullaby to teach students about lockdown drills. Taped to the classroom shockboard is a rhyme said to Twinkle Twinkle Little Star, rewritten telling students what to do if there's a shooter at a school.
Starting point is 00:12:43 It goes lockdown, lock the door shut the lights off, say no more.. to. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their. the their. their. their their their their th. Mother. Mother. Mother. thooooooooooooooooooo thoo tho their tho, mother. Mother. Mother. Mother. Mother. Mother. Mother, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thoooooosoose thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooosuoooosuooskoooskooooooooskooosk. teoosk. toseoosk tose. t. telling students what to do if there's a shooter at a school. It goes lockdown, lock down, lock the door, shut the lights off, say no more, go behind the desk and hide, wait until it's safe inside. Lock down, it's all done. Now it's time to have some fun. Now that may seem depressing. But don't forget nursery rhymes have always been downers. Think about it. Jack and Jill is about two kids who fall down a mountain. Humpty-dumpty is about a suicidal egg. And kids, if you ever meet someone who calls himself the muffin man, run! But I guess this is where we are.
Starting point is 00:13:23 Schools have to do this shit because Congress is too afraid to touch guns. So I wrote a nursery rhyme for them. Dear Congress, Hickory Dickery Doc, stop sucking the NRA's t-. His children's book will be coming out this fall. Lewis Black, everyone. We'll be right back. Welcome back to the Daily Show. My guest tonight is the president of Eurasia Group and GZero Media
Starting point is 00:13:57 and author of the New York Times bestselling book, Us versus Them, the failure of globalism. Please welcome, Ian Bremer. As someone who spends all of his time in geopolitics and studying the world, before we get to the book, let's spend a moment talking about this manic week that we've had. the most recent news, obviously, true. As someone who spends all of his time in geopolitics and studying the world, before we get to the book, let's spend a moment talking about this manic week that we've had. The most recent news obviously Trump and Kim Jong-un speaking for the first time a historic meeting between the leaders of the two nations. Interestingly enough, the White House sent out a blast today saying this was a great achievement, everything went well,
Starting point is 00:14:39 and they used a piece of your writing to confirm that. Do you think that this went well for President Trump? It's the first time they've they've they've they've they've th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I's thi. I' thi. I's, thi. I's, thi. I's, their, their, their, their, their, their. I their their their their their their. I their. I their their their. I's their their. I's thi. I's thi. I's thi. I's thi. I's thi. I'm tod toda. I'm today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, thi. the the the the their that. Do you think that this went well for President Trump? It's the first time they've done that. I assume it's connected to me being on your show tonight. I just start with that. Yeah, it did go well. Look, I mean, the fact is that for 20, 30 years, the North Koreans have been developing missile capabilities, developing their nukes. We haven't done a damn thing.
Starting point is 00:15:06 We've tried, we've not gotten there. We now have a test suspension from the North Koreans that was unilateral, and we have them engaging diplomatically not just with the Americans, but perhaps more importantly with the Chinese, the South Koreans, the Russians, the Russians, all the countries in the likelihood of actually blowing up the Korean Peninsula right now is as low as it's been in a long time. That's a good thing. Now a lot of people's criticism didn't come from the fact that the meeting was a good thing or not a good thing. I mean like I always said from the beginning, I wanted Trump to speak to Kim. I was like, make something happen.
Starting point is 00:15:37 But what I found strange was the fact that he came back and he said it's that it, everything is good now, mission accomplished basically, it's all done. But really, there were no concrete measures. Isn't that a problem? Because seeing as North Korea has made a deal with the West before, and before, the West, before, the West before, and Furi, then the concrete measures are that the North Koreans are now actually engaging. The only leader the North Korean had met with before Fire and Fury was, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, was, was, was, th. th. that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that was it. So I mean the fact that we now actually have them engaging is clearly objectively a good thing and they're
Starting point is 00:16:10 going to have to give something, I mean I've seen in the media in the last 24 hours a lot of Trump critics saying that we gave them everything they wanted. Right. Well we haven't taken any sanctions off. We're not recognizing them as a nuclear power. We're not sending an embassy over over. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. We's. We' th. We're. We're. We're. We're. We're. We're. We're. We're. We're. We're. We're. We're. We're. We're. We're. We're. We're. Wea. Wea. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, the. So, the. So, the. So, the. So, the. So, th. So, the. So, the. So not recognizing them as a nuclear power. We're not sending an embassy over. We have suspended our military exercises, which by the way, that freeze for freeze, they freeze their tests. We freeze our exercises. That's what the Chinese have been suggesting for years, which frankly was not such a nonsensible idea. So I would say we're confidence-building measures. The problem is that Trump doesn't prep. So as a consequence, he doesn't tell the South Koreans and the Japanese in advance, I'm going to give away these joint exercises. Right. So when they hear it come out,
Starting point is 00:16:53 they're stunned. Just like Rex Tillerson was stunned when he said, the South Koreans and the Japanese were stunned when he said, actually we're not going to meet. Right. You need someone in the White House that just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just. to just. to just. to just. to to to to to the the the the to the the to the the the the the the their the the the the S. the S. the S S S S, the S S, the S S, the S S S, the S, the S S S, the S S S, the S S S S, the S. the S. the S. the S. the S. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thoanananananananc. tho. tho. their tho. their their their their thooo. their their their their their thea. their their their their their stunned when he said, actually, we're not going to meet. You need someone in the White House that just calls people and says, he's going to do this, right? But you can't have someone who calls people if even he doesn't know he's going to do it. He's flying by the seat, man. So, okay, so North Korea, in your opinion, went well. he thr7 went well. No, it was a disaster. In what way? In every way. Okay, that's that's that's specific. I get it. Well
Starting point is 00:17:28 let's think about the allies. The G7 allies. Think about what they're upset about. Before the G7, from Trump leaving the trans-Pacific partnership, to Trump leaving the transpacific partnership, to Trump putting embassy in Jerusalem, to leaving the Iranian deal. Then he shows up late. He cancels his meeting, big bilateral with Macron, the French president. He leaves early, and then he sends a Twitter barrage against the Canadian prime minister. Right.
Starting point is 00:17:57 Which is not the first person you'd kind of expect to be taken on, right? I mean, and that's the public stuff. The private stuff that he was saying in that meeting that I've heard about, like saying, why do we even support NATO? Like, why would we defend Germany? Literally saying this to other heads of state at this meeting, saying, why would we support Ukraine at all, they're all corrupt? And the other leaders there are being polite because he does run the world's only superpower. But they're mortified.
Starting point is 00:18:25 With that type of thinking then, do you think Americans in the world should grapple with the notion and the idea that there is a possibility that America may over time come to see itself as an ally of countries like Russia and maybe China as opposed to Canada and Germany? No. You don't think that'll happen? Why? as opposed to Canada and Germany. No. You don't think that'll happen? No. You want to know why? Why? OK.
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Starting point is 00:18:52 The reason why is throwne. He is not, unlike Russia, run by one man. And so he's enormously frustrated that he's not able to actually work closely with the Russians. We put more sanctions on Russia just two days ago, right? I mean, he can't engage with a Chinese strongly because everyone in the United States government, including Mattis, the Secretary of Defense is quite competent, is saying, these guys are ripping us off blind and there are principal strategic antagonist in the region. So, you know, the problem is not that Trump is about to create an alliance with Russia. The problem is that the United States is going to be left
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Starting point is 00:19:53 And now the Chinese are doing that. And that's not okay. Another Chinese knock off. Yeah. Let's talk about the book us versus them the failure of globalism. Do you truly believe globalism has failed? I do Why do you why do you say that? Let's be clear? I don't believe globalization? I don't believe globalization? I don't believe globalization. Uh-huh, right? I mean we've gotten a half of the world's people in extreme poverty out of poverty just in the last 20 years. Right. Immunization like 90 percent of the world's population. That's? th. to to to th. to to to th. th. to th. th. th. to th. to th. to to th. to to th. to th to to to to to th you to to to to to to to to to to thi to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to you you you you to you you you to you you to you to you you to to to th you th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. thi thi thi thi. the the the the the the the the the thi thi to say thi to say to say you say you say you say you that's been put forward by the West and the advanced industrial democracies that says if we have open borders and free trade, that the United States and our allies
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Starting point is 00:20:58 benefits them because they get to rake in all of the profits. Is that why then populism becomes the natural counterbalance in the situation? We see it happening in Italy, you see it happening in the United States, where a message of us versus them becomes more popular than the message of we're all in this together. Trevor, I wish it was just about economics. It's worse than that, right? I mean, you look in Germany, and actually the working class feels good about the their economy, but the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th.... And, to, to, to, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the, the, the, and, the, and, and, and, the, and, the, the, the, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is.a.a.a.a.a. their, is.a. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, is.a.a. their, is, is, is. the the the working class feels good about the trajectory of their economy, but they can't stand the fact that they've allowed in all of these migrants from Syria and from North Africa in the Middle East. And so for them, it's much more cultural. It's a security issue. They're taking benefits away for me that these people aren't real Germans,
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Starting point is 00:22:26 that they thought at least Trump would want to get out. And when you hear Trump saying now 32,000 troops in South Korea, why do we have them there? I didn't see anyone saying that. So you have an interesting position on this, Populism seems to be saying the right-ish things, excuse the pun, and then globalism is saying something that doesn't seem to be panning out. How do we then begin to correct this in a realistic way? Where do we even start?
Starting point is 00:22:52 Well, you can't presume that allowing globalization to happen without taken, tho'eat-lobeythose that feel like they were left behind is going to work for these people. But if they feel like they're left behind, like you said, so if it's not economical, if they feel like they're left behind, but they weren't actually left behind, then how do you solve that situation? Well, some of it is economic, but some of it is, some of it is, some of it is Afghanistan and Iraq and Americans get involved in a fail, the, to, thapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapap.... th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. If, they're, if it's, if it's, if it's, if it's, if it's, if it, if it, if it, if it, if it, if it, if it, if it, if it, if it, if it, if it, if it, if it, if it, if it, if they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're not, they're not, they're not, they're not, they're not they're not they're not they feel like like like like, if, if, if they feel like ago. I mean, especially you look at the technology revolution and you see that automation and AI means you don't need as many people. So maybe we do need to rationalize immigration. Could it also be that there are many people who there are many people who have harbored racism for a long time but just needed somebody to trigger it because it feels like there were many people who became racist instantly with Trump. But when you look at it, it stands to reason. There were some who were racist or harbored racist tendencies and ideas,
Starting point is 00:23:53 but they didn't feel like they had the platform or the right to be racist. And you hear many people saying, it's Trump country now. I can do whatever I want. So could that be the underlying thing is that it never went away. It's just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi, the thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thri. theean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. th that be the underlying thing is that it never went away? It's just people felt like it was less and less acceptable and now it's just given rise to that. He's clearly made it acceptable for all sorts of Americans to say that's right. Someone is finally paying attention to the white underclass. People have been ignoring for a while. We had a black president, no one cared about us. Now we are and we can say these shitholeoleole countries countries countries countries countries countries countries countries countries countries countries countries countries countries countries countries countries countries
Starting point is 00:24:24 for a while. We had a black president. No one cared about us. Now we are and we can say these shit-hole countries, sub-Saharan Africa. And you know, sort of how dare these black athletes, we let them make millions of dollars and they kneel for our national anthem. I mean, we know what that is. But it's not, the fact that this is happening in so many other countries around the world where there's no Trump. The fact that that the b the the b the b the b that that th. th. th. that th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi. thi. thea, the, that, thea, th. the fact, the fact, the fact, the fact, the fact, the fact, the fact, the fact, the fact, the fact, the fact, the fact, the fact, the their their their the the the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, the, the, their, thea, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the world where there's no Trump, the fact that the Brits voted for Brexit. Right. The fact that in Italy you actually have by far the most anti-establishment vote that you've seen since World War II, I mean this has happened even in Canada where it's not overtly racist. We saw Doug Ford take, by a landslide, the second most powerful position in Canada, he's the premier of Ontario now, just last week. But that's a scary thought then, because then what you're saying is, there's almost like a virus going around the world that's secretly spreading, maybe online or maybe in some other way, and we don't know where it's coming from or
Starting point is 00:25:11 how to stop it, is that what you're saying? We know that we need to address the social contract in a much more fundamental way. We have to pay attention the attention the attention the attention attention attention attention attention attention to to attention to to attention to to to to to to to to to to to to to that? Well, Trump tried many times, but then porn star things happened. Went nowhere, right? I mean, we have to focus on those things. You know, education, and the fact that the national government is likely not to be most of the solution means that at state level, at city level, philanthropists, entrepreneurs, I mean, that's, for me this this this this this this this this this this this this this, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that's, that's, that's, to, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, to, toe, to, to, to, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have that's, for me this feels like climate change 40 years ago, right? Where we knew if you were a scientist that focused on climatology, you knew it was coming, but no governments were paying attention. Right. So you had to
Starting point is 00:25:52 get folks to start dealing with it, doing experiments locally. Now today, the governments are still behind, but solar power today is cheaper than cold during the day and that's because over time, human beings collectively said, we've got a big problem. And when things get hard, we can be better. And that's absolutely the only way we fix this problem. The things are going to get hard, and we have to be better. It's a fascinating book.
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