The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Standing Up for Racial Justice in the NFL
Episode Date: December 27, 2020In the midst of historic upheaval against racial injustice, NFL stars such as Anquan Boldin, Colin Kaepernick and Malcolm Jenkins use their platforms to fight for progressive change. Learn more about... your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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podcasts starting September 17th. You left the NFL to found like an organization that really is tossed with justice.
You set out to create the Players Coalition, which is an organization that has said,
hey man, we're going to try and make a difference using the NFL as a platform to get racial justice out there.
Take me through a little bit of the why.
You know, like everyone has a different story
as to why they get into the work that they get into.
Why was this the move for you?
Yeah, for me, it was really important.
Unfortunately, I lost my cousin at the hands of law enforcement.
My cousin was a drummer in a band,
and one night after a show he had just played with his band, he was on his way home. Ended up breaking down on the side of the road.
Long story short, law enforcement officer killed them while he was on the phone with roadside
assistance. So for me, seeing the pain that my family went through, seeing how long the process
was before we felt like justice was served.
I didn't want any other family to have to deal with that.
And for me and my family, although we feel like there's a lot of families in this country,
man, that not only get justice, but don't get their day in court.
So I feel like with the platform that I had, felt like it was more than right for me
to speak out about these issues, but also
try to come up with solutions.
Let's talk a little bit about that because, you know, I think there's two things that
that are often times a misconception that people have.
You know, I've seen a lot of people in America say, oh, but if you're rich,
if you're famous, then you're out. Like, it doesn't affect you. I don't know why you're complaining about this.
I don't even know why this is an issue for you.
But you're just one of the examples of people who do get affected,
because we're human beings, we're connected to other people,
even if it isn't you, it can be a family member,
but talk to me. But talking tho. of creating actions and why you feel like it's it's it's it's your burden you know because you you could have easily just walked away and said hey man this
is horrible this was painful and I'm out but you've chosen to sort of live in
that pain and try and you know prevent other people from experiencing it tell me
a little bit about the wise yeah I think you know like you said a lot of people think just because you have money you're out of it but I can't tell you that even after having money, you know,
I found myself in in those situations where I'm pulled over just because of the car that I'm
driving or the color of my skin. So, you know, having money doesn't exempt you from being black
in America. If you're black in America, no matter how much money you have, you're just black in America and you still have to deal with the issues that come with that.
For me, you know, me joining this work is because obviously I'm a black man, I'm raising
two black boys, I have cousins, I have a sister, I have two brothers that are obviously black,
so, I mean, it doesn't just affect me.
You know what I'm saying?
It affects my family as well.
And for me, it's trying to hold these people accountable.
And I think that's the thing that people don't get.
And you know, you have a lot of people asking, why are people protesting, why is they're
looting? And the simple answer is because justice wasn't served right away.
I guarantee you had those guys been arrested, not just the one officer, but all four, had
they been arrested right then or a day later, you wouldn't have everything that's
going on now.
And it's because we failed over and over again to hold people accountable. Mm-hmm a league that has become synonymous with, you know, law enforcement, military, etc.
You know, the NFL, a lot of the imagery that you see on the field would be like police members and the military
and they're very proud of that association. What that has created though is a conflict
oftentimes between like the fans, some of the fans and many of the players when the players speak out
about you know issues of police injustice or violence in in the communities.
How do you relate to your fans or have you found a way to connect with them?
In a way where you know you can use their passion for the sport that you played so well
to try and help them understand what's going on in America? I think the thing that you have to do is just reach people at the
level that they're at. You know, everybody doesn't always see things the same way. But I think if you humanize
the situations that we're going through as a as a culture, I think people begin to understand.
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that it really registers.
You've been working hard to push the NFL in this space.
And Roger Gaddell came out now and said that he doesn't feel like the NFL has done enough,
and he wants the NFL as an organization to do more. You know, now granted the NFL doesn't make laws, the NFL isn't responsible for
the police, so I mean, you know, the scope of what they can do is limited, but some people
felt like it was lip service because of Colin Kappenik, some people felt like it's a step
in the right direction. You know, you're somebody who's to see the NFL do? Is there something they can do and what would it be?
Yeah, I think that's a good question because I think a lot of people looking from the outside in and expecting the NFL to kind of solve this problem, right?
And that's not going to happen.
But I think one thing that the NFL can do is look internally.
Look at the policies that it supports, look at the hiring practices that it has internally. When you're talking about a league that's predominantly made up of African-Americans,
how many African-American coaches do you have? How many African-American owners do you have?
So I think that's one of the things that they can look at.
And as far as using the platform that the NFL had, you know, you have guys like myself, guys that are playing currently, guys like
Malcolm Jenkins, other guys that are on the players coalition. When we're asking for support
of the NFL, it's not just monetary, but it's coming to us when we have these meetings
with congressmen and senators and those that are in positions of power, because then those
conversations change, because there are a lot of owners in the NFL that can guarantee that some of those
people are in the seats that they're in because of their support.
So when we ask the NFL, you know, to lend us your platform, it's coming to these meetings
with us. It's understanding what exactly it is that we're fighting against.
And I can tip my hat to Roger because he's come along on several of those occasions. He's come to us.
He's come along with us when we've spoken to, you know, people in positions of power.
He's come and try to see while we were doing court hearings, like, what's the process?
So he, I can give him a, you know, kudos for trying to understand what exactly it is
that we're talking about, trying to step outside of itself
and put itself in our shoes and understand the issues that we're screaming about.
It is interesting because, you know, sports has often been the place where people say politics
doesn't exist. You know, sports is often the place we all go to escape, you just support your
team, you have a good time and that's that, but it feels like there are moments in time when politics is inescapable. You know, there are issues that can't be ignored when people step onto a field.
There are issues that athletes can't ignore, you know,
because you have platforms, you have spaces to speak out.
Drew Breeze was one of those athletes recently, you know,
who came out and said, their comments that he then later took back and said,
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is there a platform or space where players get together
and hash these things out?
Or do you find that there's a disconnect?
Is, let me put it this way, is, do we work on the assumption
that the players are always like think there's pockets where they are.
I think you have a number of players that are on the same page.
You have guys that are connected in that way.
And then you have guys who have a differing opinions.
But I would say the one thing that I do think is true that we're all fighting for the same cause. We might see it a little different of how we get there, but I think we're on the same page
that change needs to happen in this country.
Maybe the biggest sign of the power
of the Black Lives Matter movement right now
is that it's even changing America's cultural institutions.
Just look at the NFL, which is surprising everyone with a high-profile reversal. NFL Commissioner Roger Gaddell weighing in on quarterback Colin Kappernick, who has not
played since 2016 when he first started kneeling during the national anthem to protest
racial inequality.
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All of a sudden, Roger Goodell wants Colin Kappenick back in the league.
No one from the NFL has been jerked around this much since Robert Croft went into to to to back in the league. No one from the NFL has been jerked around this much
since Robert Croft went to that massage parlor.
You know, this move by the NFL
is a lot like when your parent finally admits you are right,
but it's like a decade after they already punished you.
It's like, oh, thanks for giving you my disc man back.
I guess now I'll go try and find some CDs. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it.
This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access
to the treasures in our archives.
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I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes, a second look, starting September 17th, wherever you get your podcasts.
It's so apt that you have that painting behind you because, you know, a lot of people don't
remember that image happening because we weren't alive then. A lot of people may not even know what that image represents, but that was a moment in sports
when black athletes who are representing their country felt like their country wasn't representing
them. It feels like in many ways America has come full circle to that conversation.
You know, you are on the show a few years ago and we were talking about just, you know, the conversation in and around
America and sports and black people and equal justice.
And it feels like now more than ever people are willing to listen.
You've been talking about Black Lives Matter for a long time.
You've been having these conversations.
Have you felt a shift?
Well, I think honestly what we're feeling is really the black community is done trying to
have the conversation.
We've been, you know, been trying to ease our way as a country through this, you know,
the history of our past and how do we move forward and come out of this racial divide.
And I think black people, and a lot of people you're starting to see our patience
is up, right?
And so we're no longer, not th we not just willing to just have a conversation, we're not willing
to just inch forward with small reforms.
I think everybody's ready for true systemic change and not only what we do in our policing,
but what we do in our criminal justice system, what we do with education and even in health
care system. And so I think it's important for us to continue to push that envelope because right now is the most enthusiasm I've seen in the movement for, you know a long tho, tho, tho, tho, a tho, a tho, tho, thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, to to to to to to thin, to to thin, thin, thi. thi. thin. thi. thi. thi, thi, thin push that envelope because right now is the most enthusiasm
I've seen in the movement for you know a long time. When you look at
everything that's going on in America now, what do you feel or what do you
hope some of the larger conversations would be? What progress do you want to
see being made? Well the number one thing is I want to see people
participate in this year's election and so that's getting people registered and figuring out ways, no matter what they put in place
to deter people from voting,
that we all pitch in and make sure
that people get to the polls and participate.
But the second thing, I think it's huge right now,
and this moment is getting people
to really change their minds
about how we go about policing in this country and what that looks looks looks looks looks looks And so you've heard the term defund the police and that scares a lot of people, but people should look up, you know,
what that actually means. So whether you want to call your fund or divest or abolish,
the end of the day, we want to change the way that policing is they're not trained to deal with. They shouldn't be in our schools.
They should have more counselors than police.
Our children should have that in their schools.
And a whole gamut of things that we don't need to respond with police.
And so I think we video that you that
you came out with at the ESPs, you know a call to action, getting people to
have conversations, getting people to be engaged, black and white, and you
really emphasize that point. In many ways it feels like the whole incident
with Drew Breeze was a personification of your message. You know, your
your teamate came out and said, you know, he wasn't happy with people
kneeling, you know, because he said it was against the flag, and he was, and you came out
and you were really strong, you were like, you're my teammate, but let me school you on what's
happening here. And then he backtracked, and he had a really, you know, in my opinion, it was a heartfelt, apology and it seemed like, thrownh...... And, they, they, they, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, th. And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, th..... And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, and, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. th. th. th. And, th. th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, and, and a discourse where people are hearing each other? How, like, tell me about that situation
and whether you think it was a success.
Yeah, I think my interactions with Drew
was a microcosm to what we need to do as a country.
And I think, you know, that was the reason I posted it.
Me and Drew had talked. And I posted it anyway because I thought this is something that people need to see.
And I think we for a long time have tried to put reconciliation before truth. But when you do that,
you don't really understand, you know, really what is oppressing people and really what the problems are.
And we try to move to a post-racial type of society and move on from our past without actually addressing the history and the way that our past pretty
much paints the present. And until we change the direction that we're going to, we change
the systems that we put in place in the past, will always be tethered to that. And I think that starts
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that dispossession and marginalization means in 2020.
Let's talk a little bit about the NFL. Roger Goodle, the commissioner came out and said, he apologizes for the the the to the the to the th no, th no, thoe, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. and, thi, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin. Roger Goodell, the commissioner came out and said, he apologizes
for the way the NFL have treated conversations around race. He apologizes for the way the NFL
treated Colin Kappenik. And he said, now the NFL is going to do more, they're going to get out
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Well I think what any corporation or any business should be doing is first looking internally
at how they run their own house, right?
So what are the, when you look at the NFL, you look at, okay, you have 70% of players
that are black, how many head coaches do you have that are black? How many GMs do you have that are black? How many presidents do you have? Zero owners, zero presidents. I think
there may be two or three GMs and less than four head coaches. And so those are immediate things
that they need to be addressing and looking at. But then the second part is it's cool to put out statements and the cut checks. But where the their their their their. T, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. th. the, the, the. th. th. th. their th. the. their their the. their their their their the cut checks, but where the NFL really has a lot
of power is in its lobby.
They have, you know, owners that are, they got money out of, you know, right.
They can just pull it out of the air.
But what they do with that is they lobby all the time for things that help their business
interests.
We love to see them take that same kind of power and use, to help in the areas that players are standing up for, or players are protesting about.
That is the biggest way I think that they can help players initiatives
is really help push it on a legislative standpoint.
You know, going back to that image behind you,
I feel like it really ties into the video and the conversation you had
because a lot of people focused on the American athletes.
Not a lot of people know the story of the Australian
athlete who's in that picture, who basically stood with them and said, hey, I'm going to
support what you're doing and because of that, his career was also lost. There's a deeper conversation
in how white people can be allies and how they can step up and what they can do. You've
been someone who encouraged that from, you know, long before it was fashionable, and you're pushing that more, you know, you're pushing that more and more now.
Why do you feel that's so important?
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started by black people, it may be carried on through on the backs of black people,
it's going to cross the finish line on the backs of white people. And it's important
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to bring this to a majority rule.
Did you know that America is finally getting
its first black president?
For the Washington football team,
formerly known as the Washington Redskins,
announcing its new team president?
He will be the league's first black president.
Jason Wright will lead the team's business ventures and operations
and working with former Panthers head coach Ron Rivera on building the team on the field.
Owner of the team says,
Ryan's experience as a former player, and his push for inclusion will set new standards
for that organization.
That's right. Washington has hired the first black president in NFL history, which is fantastic.
But if they follow the same pattern as America, the team's next president is going to kick
all the Mexicans off the team and inject all the players with hydroxochloroquine.
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And best of luck to Jason Wright.
And I mean, best of luck.
Because football is the only sport right now
that's trying to play with fans in the stands,
and with no bubble during COVID.
So if thery blame him. I'm just saying, the league never shut down before when there was a white team president.
It can't be a coincidence.
It's been interesting in how you've shared your feelings, honestly.
You know, you haven't tried to act like you were perfect.
You haven't said that I figured this thing out.
But you also said that you want to help as a white person with a platform which is not easy for a lot of people to say because you're
so scared of the backlash that may come with that. Talk me through that experience
and and why you felt it was necessary for yourself as an athlete. I mean you
could easily say hey I'm an athlete I can't talk about this.
Why do you think it was important for you to speak out in the way that you have? Well, number one, you know, this was something that, you know, my friends and my teammates
were saying. As I was listening, you know, some of the comments that were made were
that, you know, we appreciate you guys having our back and having, you know, telling us that you
support us, but I think it would help more if you did it publicly and you were
able to go out and use the platform that you have to, you know, to encourage change.
And so that was one of the parts, you know, just as a friend and listening to my friends
and my teammates, it just seemed like that was the next step that needed to happen because, you know, what we had been doing up until this point had it really to to to to to to to to to to to to to the.. to the, and so, and so, and so, and so, and so, and so, and so, and so, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, and they. And, and, thi. And, thi. And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you the, you know, you know, you're, you know, you're, you're, you know, you're, you're, you that needed to happen because, you know, what we had been doing up until this point had it really worked.
And so, you know, if you continue to try and do the same things we've done up until this point, you're going to continue to get the same results. And so for whatever reason, the timing, I just, I felt like I had to do it because I regret it not doing that up until to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, the, to, the, the, to, the, the, to, the, the, the, to, the the, th, to, to, th, thi, thi, thi, to, thi, to, thi, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi.e, thi.e, thi.e.e.e. And, thiiiiiiii.e.e. And, toe. And, toe. And, toe. And, toe, this point. You know, I regret it just kind of staying on the sidelines
and not helping out in the ways that I could.
So it really stemmed, you know, from conversations
that I've had with my friends about, you know,
what can I do to make a difference.
Yeah, and one of the differences you started to make is actually using the resources that
you have to give African American members of the Atlanta community a leg up.
You've started a go fund me, you donated $500,000 of your own money to that go fund me.
And what's interesting is where some people have said, hey, I'm going to figure this thing
out, you said no, I'm going to be talking to black community leaders and figure out where we can get money to the people who need it for whatever they
need it most for. That's an interesting way to do it. Why did you choose that path?
Well, I chose the path because, number one, I knew I wanted to do something, but number two, you know, I knew that I didn't know how to do it, I didn't know, I didn't know, I didn't know that I didn't know that I didn't know it, that I didn't know it, that I didn't know, that I didn't that I didn't that I didn't that I didn't that I didn't that I didn't that I didn't that I didn't know it that I didn't know that I didn't know it that I didn't know that I didn't know that I didn't know, that I didn't, that I didn't, that I didn't, that I didn't, that I didn't, that I didn't, that I didn't that I didn't that I didn't know, that I didn't know, that I didn't know, that I didn't know, that I didn't know, that I didn't know, that I didn't know, that I didn't know, th. th. th. that that, that, that, that, that, that. thr, thr, thr-a. thr-I didn't know, thr-a. that. thr-I didn't know, that. that. that. that. to help. And you know, typically what I've found throughout my life
is when it's an area that I don't know the most about,
I think it's important to find people that do
and find people that you trust and have them kind of guide you the direction you need
to go.
And so that's what I'm currently in the process of doing. I've had great conversations
with probably about eight different people from the from the Atlanta community right now
that are heavily involved at the grassroots level in terms of community organizers and people that do
this every day that have been trying to make a change for a long time and are much more knowledgeable about the hurdles that we have to jump but also that that that we have to tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho that that tho the the the the the to to to thi to to the to to the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the have been trying to make a change for a long time and are much more
knowledgeable about the hurdles that we have to jump, but also the things that we can do
that are really going to make an impact immediately and then long-term too. That's kind of, you know,
my focus with this is, is to make a difference now for sure, but, you know, not, you know, rush into doing something
just to do it because the momentum is there right now.
Let's do something that's going to impact making change for the long haul.
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