The Daily Show: Ears Edition - TDS Time Machine | Jimmy Carter on the Rise of Fundamentalism

Episode Date: January 11, 2025

In memory of President Jimmy Carter, a look back at an interview with Jon Stewart in which the 39th president talks about the dangerous rise of religious and political fundamentalism, the merging of p...olitics with religion, and, inspired by his own faith, the need for separation between church and state.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Comedy Central. My guest tonight, the 39th president of the United States, who is also a Nobel Peace Prize winner. His latest book is called Our Endangered Values, America's Moral Crisis. Please welcome to the program President Jimmy Carter. Sir? Thank you, sir. Nice to see you. How are you? Nice to see you. Thank you for being with us.
Starting point is 00:00:26 The book is called Our Endangered Values. It is your 20th book. It's a book that's been published by the National Journal of the Arts and Sciences. It's a book that's been published by the National Journal of the Arts and Sciences. It's a book that's been published by the National Journal of the Arts and Sciences.
Starting point is 00:00:34 It's a book that's been published by the National Journal of the Arts and Sciences. It's a book that's been published by the National Journal of the Arts and Sciences. It's a book that's been published by the National Journal of the Arts and Sciences. It's a book that's been published by the National Journal of the Arts and Sciences.
Starting point is 00:00:42 It's a book that's been published by the National Journal of the Arts and Sciences. It's a book that's been published by the National Journal of the Arts and Sciences. It's a book that's. The book is called Our Endangered Values. It is your 20th book. Absolutely. You have been traveling the world, monitoring international elections, doing wonderful missionary work, building homes. Sir, I ask you this.
Starting point is 00:01:00 Why are you busier? Why do you work harder than our actual president? applause Well, one reason is that although I have been governor of Georgia, I have been president of the United States, I have won a Nobel Peace Prize. I have 11 grandchildren, and they don't think I'll be a success in life until I've been on The Daily Show and if I was president.
Starting point is 00:01:34 And if I was president I couldn't be here. I understand sir and that's what this show is for, to give kids like you a break. We're here to help you out. All right, thank you for that. How did a Southern Baptist conservative, really, person become the nemesis of the right in this country? There's a certain segment of the country that demonizes Jimmy Carter. It's a very small segment. A very small segment. Well, I told the truth. And this book is dampened out about six weeks. Nobody's found anything wrong with it. It points out, I think in very vivid terms,
Starting point is 00:02:13 it's still on sale. Yes, it is. And by the way, a lovely Christmas gift this would make. Absolutely. And there have been dramatic and unprecedented basic changes in America's policies that are deeply concerning to me. It's not Democratic versus Republican. It's not liberal versus conservative. These are radical changes compared to what was done in all previous administrations, including George Bush, Sr., and Dwight Eisenhower,
Starting point is 00:02:45 and Gerald Ford, and Ronald Reagan, and all the Democratic presidents as well. These are radical changes, and that's what I thought I'd devote my time to. It's my first book that's been about political issues. A lot of the changes you pegged to the rise of fundamentalism, not just in this country, but around the world over the past 30 years,
Starting point is 00:03:03 beginning with the hostage crisis in Iran. That's true in religion and in politics. And lately what's been of great concern in addition to what I've already said is the merger of the two, the merger of religion and politics because I happen to be a Christian and I think that my religion teaches me that you should run to under Caesar the things that are Caesar's and to God the things that are God's. And Thomas Jefferson, one of our founding fathers, said that we should build a wall between the church and state.
Starting point is 00:03:34 That wall is being deliberately and ostentatiously not secretly broken down. So there's been an increasing merger in this country of fundamentalism on the religious side, fundamentalism on the political side, and the two have come together. Do you have a sense in your mind why that hasn't been stopped by the electoral process? Because there is, I see it everywhere, concern over that type of extremism or infiltrating itself into the government or these things. But every election cycle that comes around
Starting point is 00:04:05 doesn't seem to reflect that dissatisfaction. Well, as a matter of fact, in the year 2000, I think the Democrats won. And... Yeah, so it did reflect that. Yeah. And in 2004, the results of election were predictably distorted because about 9 or 10
Starting point is 00:04:29 percent of the American people will tell you today that they vote for the incumbent president, even if they don't agree with him or his policies, as long as he is the commander in chief of our young men and women overseas with their lives in danger. So there's a tremendous effect of patriotism in this country. And I think that patriotic inclination was strongly savaged, but also very greatly utilized by the Republican side. And that changes the politics of it.
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