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Ears Edition.
Now that we've all had a full day to absorb the first presidential debate, let's really
sit down and talk about what we learned. You know, take some time to analyze the policy disagreements.
Think through the important issues.
Pass the nuances of...
The question is...
The question is radical left.
Who is your true?
Who is your true?
You graduated either the lowest or almost the lowest in your class.
This is so unpresidentialized.
Hunter got thrown out of the military.
He was thrown out dishonorably discharged. That's not true. He wasn't disconneuague.
Wait a minute, you get the final word, Mr. Well, it's hard to get any word in with this clown.
Excuse me. Hey, let me just tell you. There's nothing smart about you Joe. 47 years you've done nothing called the cops to complain about the noise.
I have never seen a debate like that in my life.
To be honest, I've never seen anything like that in my life.
Honestly, it seemed less like a presidential debate and more like a fight that you over hear in a booth at Denny's.
Well, you shut up, you clown, you got no class.
I got no class. You got terrible grades and your son's a coke hand.
You piece of shit you don't talk about my son. You listen. Yeah, hi. Can I get the uh the moons over my hammy with the orange juice please? Yeah, that'll be all dull. Thank you so much.
You got drunk and you hit on your own daughter!
I wasn't drunk.
I mean, some of these insults were way more personal than you ever seen a debate.
Especially Biden calling Trump a clown.
Which guys, I'm sorry man.
That's not fair to Trump.
All right? Clowns wear weird makeup.
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Does that sound like Donald Trump to you?
Now, let's just be clear.
The reason that this debate was such a colossal train wreck
is because Donald J.
Trump was throwing grenades on the tracks.
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The country would be better served
if we allowed both people to speak with fewer interruptions.
I'm appealing to you, sir, to do that.
Well, and him too.
Well, frankly, you've been doing more interrupting them.
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It's just a wrong state.
I understand.
You've agreed to the two minutes, so please let's let them have a...
You made a point, let's answer.
You made a point.
The only guy the second subject is COVID-19 which is an awfully serious subject so let's try to be serious
about it. Not true. You're going to have true. Gentlemen is I hate to raise my
voice but I see it seems to be why shouldn't I be different than the two of you
so you've been talking about you I'm asking you I would love to end it I would
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Trump was being such a child that Chris Wallace actually had to pull the,
Do you want to switch seats move?
That English teachers use with their students.
And honestly, I'm glad that Trump didn't take him up on it.
Because if Trump takes over Wallace's job, then Wallace has to take over Trump's job. And I don't know if he has it in him to kill 200,000 people.
But seriously, though, I feel bad for Chris Wallace.
Any moderator in a Trump debate is basically a WWE ref.
You're not really stopping anyone.
You're just there to get body slammed every once in a while.
And people have been criticizing Wallace for how he handled the debate. But honestly, guys, I don't know if another moderator could have done better.
I mean, whether you like it or not,
Trump is the president of the United States.
So what was Wallace supposed to do?
Ground him?
There was no way to stop Trump last night.
He interrupted their trips.
He interrupted Wallace, and there weren't any commercials
last night but if they were, Trump would have interrupted those too. Guys, are you tired of frequent nighttime bathroom trips?
Well, force back your prostate.
Why is it, just out of curiosity, the mayor of Moscow's wife gave your son $3.5 million.
That guy's relentless.
So, look, this was not a shining moment in the American history books. Right. Political observers referred to it as a shit show, a dumpster fire, the worst debate in history.
And with all the interrupting and cross-talking, it might have even been hard to remember
if anything important happened last night.
But there was one moment that really stood out.
Are you willing tonight to condemn white supremacists and militia groups and to say that
they need to stand down and not add to the violence in a number of these cities as we saw
in Kenosha and as we've seen in Portland?
I'm willing to do anything I want to see peace.
Well, you're going to do it, sir.
Do it.
Do you want to call them? What do you want to to to a name, give me a... White supremacists and right pro-soupley?
White supremacists and right pro-boys.
to stand by, but I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what.
Somebody's got to do something about antifa and the left, because this is not a right-wing problem.
Wow. There you have it, true. Folks, Trump had an opportunity to be like white supremacists, I don't f- fuck with you.
Instead, he's like, stand by guys, I never know when I'm going to need you.
Telling white supremacists to stand down and telling them to stand by are not the same thing.
That one little word makes a huge difference.
Like the difference between a blowout and a blow job.
Do not ask for the wrong one at Supercuts.
Again, to the staff at Supercuts, I apologize.
I hadn't slept and I didn't read the menu properly.
And even for that non-condemnation,
Trump had to be dragged into it.
Like, no president should ever have to be pressured this hard into condemning white supremacists.
It's the easiest thing. Trump did it so grudgingly,
he was like one of those guys who refuses to make real apologies.
What, I'm supposed to apologize for tailgating at your dad's funeral?
Fine, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry that you're unable to have a good time.
Some of us are still living.
And by the way, you know that you've truly botched your condemnation of a hate group when that hate group says
Thank you for the endorsements
The proud boys of far-right extremist group immediately celebrating the president's comments on social media
They went nuts on social media celebrating they put out those words as a rallying cry stand back stand by
Within minutes the group's members were posting on private
social media calling Trump's comments, quote, historic. The New York Times reports that
some group members labeled it as a tacit endorsement of their violent tactics, while another
posted the group was already seeing a spike in new recruits. Yes, thanks to Donald
Trump's failed condemnation. This hate group is now seeing an increase in recruits. Yes, thanks to Donald Trump's failed condemnation,
this hate group is now seeing an increase in recruits,
which means in the history of television,
that might be one of the worst answers ever given.
And that's coming from someone who once guessed the number seven on will of fortune.
I didn't know it had to be letters. That was just like, I was new to America.
The proud boys liked Donald Trump's answer so much that they're even adopting it as their
new slogan.
And that actually might piss off Trump, because the one thing he definitely believes in
is getting royalties.
Well, well, well, nobody should be advocating the supremacy of the white man without
giving Donnie's cut.
I'd be careful if I were the proud proud proud proud proud proud proud proud there's one thing we know about Donald Trump, it's that once he invests in you,
you have about five years until you go bankrupt.
So yes, in a debate that consisted almost entirely of three old men trying to shout over each other,
this one moment was horrifying enough to break out and get noticed.
And you know it's bad when even Trump's own supporters are left saying, you're done f-fied up.
The president, well, he would not condemn white supremacists.
I agree that the president made a bad error, and I think that was a huge gap.
He was, he was kind of like playing around. I didn't like that he equivocated when he could have slam dunk that.
I think he missed it.
I think he missed it.
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Donald Trump brewed the biggest layup in the history of debates
by saying not condemning white supremacist.
I don't know if he didn't hear it, but he's got to clarify that right away.
That's like, are you against evil?
Why the president condemn white supremacy?
Hmm.
It's a real mystery.
Maybe he didn't hear the question.
Or maybe he misspoke.
Or maybe he thought they said,
Sprite supremacists.
And he's rarely into sprite.
I can't think of any other explanation, Watson.
By the way, did you notice that even when Fox people acknowledged Trump did something really bad,
they still give him the benefit of the doubt?
I wish I had friends that were that loyal.
If I shut my pants in public,
none of my friends would be like,
Trevor didn't shit himself.
His butt misspoke.
Look, Trump's friends can play dumb about this all they want. But I don't know why. I don't know why at this point people are still acting surprised when he refuses to denounce white
supremacists because as you may remember this is not exactly a new thing for
him. I think there's blame on both sides. You had some very bad people in that group,
but you also had people that were very fine people on both sides.
Don't you see today white nationalism there's a rising threat around the world?
I don't really.
There are white supremacist groups and individuals like that who support you,
some of whom you've even retweeted.
Well, that I know nothing about. I mean, I don't know about retweetting.
I mean, you retweet somebody who turns out to groups that are supporting me. Will you unequivocally condemn David Duke and say that you don't want his vote or that of other white supremacists in this election?
I don't know anything about David Duke, okay?
I don't know anything about what you're even talking about with white supremacy or white supremacists.
You wouldn't want me to condemn a group that I know nothing about.
I'd have to look. If you would send me a list list list list list list list list list list list list list list list list list the me a list of the groups, I will do research on them, and certainly I would disavow if I thought there was something wrong.
But you may have groups in there that are totally fine and it would be very unfair.
So give me a list of the groups and I'll let you know.
Okay, I mean I'm just talking about David Duke and the Ku Klux Klan here, but...
I don't know anything about him. Yeah, it's actually hard to keep track of all the times that Trump had the chance to
be anti-racist and didn't.
The only thing he avoids more than condemning white supremacists is paying taxes.
And keep in mind, this is the same guy who has strong opinions on everything. I mean, Robert Pattinson, aka Twilight.
But then when it comes to white supremacy, he's like, hey man, I don't get involved in
other people's business, you know, you do your own thing.
The truth is people.
Sometimes not having an opinion is having an opinion.
If someone's like, I don't know Osama bin Laden, so I'm not going to say anything bad
about him. And you should stop talking to to to to to to to to to to their their their their their their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thoom. thoom. thoom. thi, thi, thoomorrow, thoom. thoomoomoom. thoomoom. thoom. thoom. thoom. thoom. tho, tho, I'm tho, I'm tho, tho. tho. tho. He. tho. tho. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He's, tho. Hea, tho. He's, thoomorrow, thoomorrow, thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom. He's tho. bad about him. And you should stop talking to that person, or at least, don't get on a plane with them.
So look, I get why his supporters want to act like Trump's proud boy's moment last night
was some kind of accidental or unintentional gaff.
But if you see someone making the same mistake over and over again,
well, at some point you have to accept that it's not a mistake, it's their belief. All right, we're going to take a quick break, but when we come back, we'll reveal which
candidate was wearing an earpiece during the debate.
Oh, spoiler alert, it was both.
We'll be right back.
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This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television.
Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives.
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Listen to 60 minutes, a second look on Apple podcasts starting September 17th.
Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show. We've been talking about how
crazy last night's debate was. And one of the craziest things is that a lot of
President Trump's most hardcore supporters are apparently convinced that the only
reason Joe Biden survived at all is that someone was feeding him answers through a secret wire. In fact, before the debate, the tru the truu the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thi-s, thia' thia' thia' thia' thi. Welcome, thi-s, thi-s, thi-s, th. Welcome thi-s their their their their their their their their their their their their th. Welcome, thii. Welcome thia, thia, thia, thia' thiau., thiauuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu. thi-s' thi-s, thia' thia' thinin, thiauiauiau. thiau thiau.eeau. thiau. thiau is that someone was feeding him answers through a secret wire. In fact, before the debate, the
Trump campaign even wanted to inspect Biden for an earpiece. And honestly, the
idea of digging through an ear that old is kind of exciting, you know, just from an
archaeological standpoint. Yes, we didn't find an earpiece, but we did discover this vase from the Shang dynasty.
Now, as usual, everyone ignored Trump's crazy conspiracy theories,
but in fact, the Daily Show can exclusively report
that Joe Biden was, in fact, wearing an earpiece.
I know it's shocking, people.
But not only that, it turns out Donald Trump was also wearing an airpiece. I know it's shocking people. But not only that, it turns out Donald Trump was also
wearing an airpiece.
And we have the behind-the-scenes footage
of what they were hearing during the debate.
Welcome the Republican nominee, President Trump,
and the Democratic nominee, Vice President Biden.
All right, Mr. Biden, I'll be here to guide you.
Now, just remember, presidents are leaders,
so let's be calm and dignified.
All right, Mr. President, you and we are going to fuck this guy up.
Let's spread the cheeks and show these people an asshole.
All right, let's start off strong.
Hale it was your biggest accomplishment.
I'm the one that brought back football.
By the way, I brought back Big Ten football.
It was me and...
What? No, your biggest accomplishment.
Like, uh...
Oh, shit.
But those states, I want to move on to another subject.
Okay, Trump hates being mocked, so let's just laugh at him.
Okay, crank it up a little more.
Less than...
There's plenty.
Big laugh, like you're watching whatever people your age watch.
Three stooges, people with...
What's true? Nobody shows up to his rights.
All right. They're in the military, so don't tell me about this.
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all right we're about halfway through let's take a quick nap
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Are you willing tonight to condemn white supremacists and militia groups
and to say that they need to stand down and not...
Pff! Hell no! White supremacists are half your base! You can't denounce them. In fact, do the opposite.
Problems, let's go.
Stand back and stand by.
Yes, perfect. That's what I'm talking about.
Let's go white race.
President Trump, you're holding large rallies.
We have had no problem whatsoever. It's outside.
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Then he's a fool on this.
Yeah, come on.
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Oh, sorry, I was on mute.
Can you hear me now?
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What are you waiting for?
You saw what happened today with Hillary Clinton where it was a whole big con job?
That's right. That'll teach you to run for president four years ago.
I'll get rid of the individual mandate.
Excuse me. I got rid of the individual mandate, which was a big joke of a... But that is... I don't understand. Why is Chris Wallace being so helpless?
Mr. President, you're doing anything.
The moderator is totally helpful.
I'm totally helpless.
Whoooh? Got stuck in traffic.
to sorry, I'm late.
Mr. Wallace, how we doing?
Mr. President, I got rid of it. I'd like you... Oh shit. I'm out, I'm out.
And I would like you to let me ask my question and then you can answer you.
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Mr. President, can you let him finish, sir?
He doesn't know how to do that. He has, you know, you pick.
Stop yapping, clown.
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This is 60 Minutes.
It's a kind of a magazine for television.
Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives.
You're rolling? But that's all about to change.
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Earlier today, I spoke with Reverend L. Sharpton,
Civil Rights Leader and founder of the National Action Network.
We talked about the first presidential debate
and the lessons that he offers up in his new book, Rise Up.
Reverend El Sharpton, welcome to the Daily Social Distancing Show.
Thank you. I'm glad to be with you, Travel.
Let's jump straight into it. Your new book is entitled, Rise Up,
Confronting a Country at a Crossroads.
And you write in this book that America has two choices, basically.
Either America continues being a progressive country that moves to make people's
lives better and tries to better itself, or it goes back
to a time when all that mattered was the color of your skin and how much money you had.
Do you really think that the choice is that stock and what do you think that means for
America?
I think the choices are that stock.
In the last half century, we had in incremental steps at other times, started moving toward a more inclusive society
in terms of voting rights, in terms of the rights
of ending some of the economic barriers,
in terms of gender equality,
in terms of LGBTQ rights, all across the board,
and in terms of dealing with climate change.
And I deal with all of it in the book.
And then all of a sudden, after eight years of Barack Obama as president, there was this backlash,
almost like after reconstruction in the 19th century in this country.
And that backlash was personified by Donald Trump.
So what I go through in the book is my journey. I started as an activist when I was 13 years old.
In my journey, I've seen that upward tilt fighting all the way up to ultimately seeing
a Nelson Mandela walk out of jail to a Barack Obama becoming president.
And then I see this challenge where Donald Trump won on denying that Barack Obama was a real American,
he's not one of us, and governing in that way.
And I'm saying we're at a crossroads.
We've got to decide, are we going to continue the trek that the Dr. King's and the
Mandela's all the way to my generation and a generation behind me were headed, are we
going to let this aborted route take us another way?
And ironically, it couldn't have been more plain
than in last night's debate,
where you have a president refusing to denounce white supremacy,
even saying when the, says, well, who are you talking about? And the Fox News anchor, who's the moderator says, the bad, the proud voice, he's, the proud voice. He's, he's, he's, he's, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, thi, thi, the, threat, that, threat, threat, the, threat, threat, that, thirty, the, threat, threat, threat, that, that, that, the says, well, who are you talking about? And the Fox News anchor, who's the moderator, says,
the proud boys, he says, stand back, stand by.
Well, I don't say stand by, I say rise up.
That's the name of the book.
Let's talk about rising up.
2020 has seen a slew of protests like never before.
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because you have been part of the movements in this country
from the very beginning, in terms of marching for civil rights,
in terms of getting out there and fighting for equal rights.
When young people are out there fighting for freedom,
there is a constant battle between, you know, how the protest should be managed, what the
protest should be.
Now, you were part of a movement that was nonviolent, but at the time, were still considered
to be one of the most agitative protests around.
It's not like people were hugging you for doing what you were doing.
Would you, what advice would you give to the young generation today who are trying to start another type of protest in how they manage how the protest is seen and what the outcomes of that protest should actually
be.
I tell them because I'm still out there protesting with them and leading.
We just had the probably the biggest march in Washington a few weeks ago of the year. And I say to them, first of all there's nothing new going on in these tensions, because
when I was young, we used to challenge the older way of doing things.
Don't forget that Dr. King was challenged by those in the black power movement.
You had Dr. King and Malcolm at the same time, and there were tactical disagreements.
So let's not act like this.
When people start talking like that, I say, oh, you just haven't studied. We've always had that. And what I say to them is you must set the goal. What are we trying to achieve? And the
tactics must complement the achievement of the goal. If you are trying to get the courts and the
criminal justice system to give justice to a George Floyd or a Brianna Taylor or Armored Aubrey or whoever we are fighting
for now.
How I behave what I do to raise attention and put focus on that.
Am I doing it in a way that will lead a jury to seeing that this was a peaceful law-abiding
person?
Or am I acting in a way that a jury would believe, oh,
were they're out there wild and reckless, maybe the victim was that way and the police had
no choice?
You have to correspond.
If you don't have the moral conviction, I have to nonviolence.
Explain to me the tactic of, if we were in Minneapolis, the vigil.
Explain to me why, if we go over and burn that store store the police police police police police police police the police police the police the police the police the police the police the police the police the police the visuals. Explain to me why if we go over and burn that store down,
that's going to get the police indicted.
You don't have to have my moral code.
Explain to me the tactic of that.
If we are just venting our anger,
and nobody's more angry than me.
I've been doing this for 40 years.
But if we're just bending our anger, are we really exploiting the use of the victim
to vent how we feel? Are we really trying to change what we're angry about? That's what I tell
them, and that's what I challenge them on.
You've been part of the biggest movements that have helped to shape America today.
What do you think the next 40 years is meant to be? What do you think the next fight should be? I think the next fight must be.
First, we have to preserve what was established
for voting rights, the rights of people
to have economic opportunity,
educational opportunity,
and the rights across the board,
gender, equality,
and climate change. And then we must build on that so that we equalize society,
where we don't have a society with the top 1% owning everything,
they exploiting the waters and the air.
We need to build and hold what we have and then go forward.
Otherwise, we're going to be in a contaminated planet that we cannot inhabit.
And we're also going to have an inequality
that the very fabrics of society is going to divide.
And I think the next 40 years, I see for the first time,
a lot of people, young people,
even in my own organization, National Action Network,
black and white.
I see more whites than I've ever seen that out there that gives me hope
that we can go to the next step because it's
not going to take any singular silo, we're going to have to learn how to intersect.
And that's what I write in the book about.
That's why I talk about more than just black issues.
If we don't have an intersectional movement, we cannot fight the powerful forces
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Thank you so much again for that, Reverend.
All right, when we come back, I'll be getting into the ring with John Sina.
Metaphorically, not for real. I'm not stupid. Come on, people.
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Earlier today, I spoke with W.W.E. Superstar and actor, John Sina.
We talked about his New York Times best-selling children's book, how he gives back to his community, and why the guy is just so damn amazing.
Check it out.
John Sina, welcome to the Daily Social Distancing Show.
Thank you very much. It's good to be connected with you at a distance.
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know, how are you keeping that going in the 2020 that we're all experiencing?
So one favor, John, sorry, before you answer, can you? I can. Perfect. Thank you.
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but I'm going to adjust to the surrounding. I know the situation has been different for everyone.
For me, the way I go about life hasn't changed. I look at it more like the rules have changed.
So because of what's happened, we have to live under different rules. But I guess the ethos of my life is to just try to earn every day.
So that has, the perspective of that has changed, but I've been able to kind of stay true
to who I am just by operating under the constraints of life as a gift and earn every day.
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but man, you work so hard.
I mean, you're in the New Fust and the Furious movie.
You are in an HBO spin-off series, right?
Of a movie that nobody's even seen yet.
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but I don't believe in the concept of like grind 24-7.
Yeah.
I do believe in the concept of seizing opportunity and understanding when it's at your feet and
going out to get it.
But a lot of that is, is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is that is that is that is that is that is to be to be to be to get it. But a lot of that is you have to be passionate about these opportunities and you have to
put yourself in them.
And if you can't alter your course to be able to make the most of it, the opportunity
is going to fall short, and you're going to deliver bad entertainment to consumers.
So I rest and I kick back and do nothing like anybody else. So it's not that we have a different set of clocks, we maybe just have a different way
of looking at.
You are a New York Times best-selling author.
You know, the last time you came on the show, we were talking about one of your books,
one of the earlier books in the series.
And we're back talking about it again, elbow grease.
You've been updating the series. Kids love it, man. Parents love sharing it with their kids. There it is. There it is. Tell me a little
bit about that about the new book. Yeah, well, so the third book in the series is called
Fast Friends and it introduces a character called Chopper. And Chopper possesses all the skills
of the five brothers, but she's better than all of them combined. So the book doesn't stray away from the core of the book.
This book is supposed to be big and animated and fun
and use words like gumption and jigamabobber and phrases like,
owie, because you have young readers
and you want to be able for them to use their imagination and lose themselves.
But what I really wanted to try to do was offer the ability for parents and you know lose themselves innovations. What I really wanted to try to do
was offer the ability for parents and young readers to approach topics you
normally wouldn't talk about like self-worth and facing failure and facing
fear and being proud of who you are and what to do when you see someone
that is more skilled than you.
How do you react when you see someone
then is better than you?
Not judging people by simply how they look.
Oh, she's a girl, she can't do that,
only to find out that chopper is better
than not only just one of the brothers
at their specific best skill,
better than all of their their their their their them at all of their skills. So it's a really, you can take from it what you want.
I want young readers to go back and read the books and maybe enjoy the pictures, but also
if you're a parent, if you're a teacher, or if you're a young reader, and you want
to lean into some of this stuff you don't usually talk aboutthe head. And that's been a very meticulous process with all three of the books.
You can't be out there in the same way,
but you've found a really creative way
to promote this book.
Tell me a little bit about what you're doing.
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I was saying what can we do to substitute.
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maybe have time for a question or so,
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enjoy not only the book, but it's a chance for people, maybe at a time where they
doesn't need to hear somebody, which is awesome.
You never know what your interaction can mean to someone.
I look forward to the day that we can actually go places and meet people again, but this is what we got. Man, if people didn't love you enough from everything that you do in front of the camera
or everything that you do in the streets for people, you know, then you read in the news
that John Sina donated half a million dollars to the Los Angeles department, fire departments,
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what BTS did and just stepping into the fray. And I wonder like, what is it about
the issues of the world that make John Sina go, man, I'm gonna step in. You
seem like that kind of guy, but a lot of people seem like that but aren't that. The BTS Army matched BTS's $1 million donation.
I am a member of the BTS Army and was very glad to contribute to that chunk, but I was
only a contributing chunk.
The BTS Army was responsible for matching BTS.
So you're part of the BTS Army?
Yeah, of course.
And I was proud to be part of that initiative. But I think the takeaway here is that this group of Korean pop fans stepped up,
came out of their wallets, and decided that they want to use resource to help change the world.
And I was inspired by that, and I was inspired to give, and I was happy to be part of that.
But I do, I cannot take credit for that, and I cannot take the credit away from not only BTS for donating a million bucks but the BTS Army for matching it and matching it in 24 hours I believe.
You're the gift for coming on the show. Thank you so much again for joining us.
Thank you so much again for joining us.
I look for yourself. I look for you so much John. Take that that time. I don't know. I'm going to hug the shit out of you. I'm going. I'm going. I'm going. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'm going. I'm going. I. I. I'm going. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the to the th. the the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. toge. toge. toge. toge. toda. toda. toda. toda. toda. toda. toda. toda. the. the.. I'm Mr. Musk man. I miss you much. Thank you so much, great seeing. Thank you. Well that's our show for tonight everybody, but before we go,
please remember, the West Coast is battling horrific wildfires that are destroying
millions of acres of land and displacing thousands of people. Climate change has been a key
factor in increasing the risk and the extent of these conditions. And one organization that has been working to find practical solutions for climate change
and other environmental threats
is the Environmental Defense Fund.
Until tomorrow, stay safe out there,
wear a mask, and remember,
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Wow, that's harder than I thought.
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