The Daily Show: Ears Edition - The Magical, Wonderful Road to Impeachment - Day Three | Daniel Kaluuya

Episode Date: February 12, 2021

Trevor covers the third day of Donald Trump's impeachment trial, Jordan Klepper heads back to Washington, D.C., and Daniel Kaluuya discusses "Judas and the Black Messiah."Please visit dailyshow.com/B...arbershopBooks to help create child-friendly reading spaces in barbershops and promote literacy for Black boys and other vulnerable children. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Comedy Central. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes, a second look, starting September 17th, wherever you get your podcasts. Well hello everybody, what's
Starting point is 00:00:36 going on? I'm Trevor Noah, and this is the Daily Social Distancing Show. Today is February 11th, which means my friends Valentine's Day is only three days away. I repeat three days away. So just remember to leave out a plate of milk and cookies for Cupid or else he'll make you get a divorce. Anyway, on tonight's show, Democrats make their closing arguments against Donald J. Trump. Jordan Clapper is back in D.C. for the first time since the riots, and why being nice to your your M-more might might might might might might might might might might might might th, I th, I th, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I thi-d. I thi-d. I thi-d. I thi-a, I thi-a, I thi-a, I thi-a, I thi-a, I thi-a, I three, I three, I three, I three, I three. I three, I three, I three, I three, I three, I three, I three, I three, I three. I three, I three, I three, I thi. I thi. I th. I th. I thi-a, I thi. I thi. I thi-a. I thi-a. I thi-a. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi today thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. I thi. I thi back in D.C. for the first time since the riots and why being nice to your M.M.M.M. Might get you vaccinated. Plus, Daniel Kaluya joins us on the show to talk about his
Starting point is 00:01:12 brand new movie, Judas and the Black Messiah. So let's do this people. Welcome to the somewhere in the world. This is the daily social distancing show with Trevor Norton. Let's talk about the coronavirus. The only thing with more mutations than Rudy Giuliani. There's good news in America. As cases and hospitalizations continue to fall. But with dangerous coronavirus variants spreading
Starting point is 00:01:46 around the country, the race is now on to get as many people vaccinated as quickly as possible. Which is why in Massachusetts, they started doing this. Starting today in Massachusetts, vaccine eligibility begins for friends and family members who accompany a person who is 75 years of age or older to their vaccine appointment. Only one companion per person is allowed to sign up for this vaccine appointment at a mass vaccination site regardless of their age or health. Hell yeah, Massachusetts! Oh! This is just like the club, but the exact opposite. The shots are free, and if you have your grandma with you, you get in right away.
Starting point is 00:02:27 But yes, anyone can get a vaccine in Massachusetts as long as they roll up with someone 75 or over. And you know what this means, right? It means everyone is going to want to make friends with old people in Massachusetts now. In fact, they should just make this the next season of the Bachelorette. Who will get Gladice this g glad Stay tuned to find out. And this could also make for some awkward situations, because this is when the grandkids find out which one is the favorite. Or that grandma has an affair with the pool boy all along. I love you all equally, but Javier has abs of steel. And look, I know there's going to be a run on octogenarians now, but if you ask me, we shouldn't need any more incentives to hang out with old people.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Guys, old people are the best. They're full of wisdom. They usually have free candy in their pockets, and they have lots of practical advice about defeating Nazis, which is super useful these days. But America isn't the only country taking creative measures to combat coronavirus. They're also making big changes in France, a ta'a'nigh, Belgium, where office culture may never be the same.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Employees in France will soon be allowed to eat at their desks at work. Currently, the French Labor code actually prohibits businesses from allowing employees to eat meals in areas that are dedicated to work. But the labor minister will be making the changes as part of new COVID restrictions as employees return to the office. Now it could signal a change for our country with a very strong work-life balance with one French balance with one French balance. The amendment is a catastrophe. I agree.
Starting point is 00:04:05 This is a catastrophe for French culture. First, they start eating at their desks, and what's next? Working at their desks? Sacrablea! But this is kind of wild. Apparently, up until now, it had been illegal in France to eat lunch. Because they think, if it's allowed, workers are going to be pressured to do it instead of taking a lunch break. Not to mention, it's really hard to get fresh ground pepper out of a keyboard. And I'm not going to lie, I was really surprised to learn about this rule.
Starting point is 00:04:34 I mean, I would have thought that if anyone ate while they were working, it would be the French. I mean, their main pastry doubles as a phone. Al-A-Hah! I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I'm their, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I'm their, I'm their, I'm their, I'm their, I'm their, I'm their, I'm their, I'm their, I'm their, I'm their, I'm their, I'm their, I'm their, I'm their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm their their their their their th. their th. their th. th. th. their th. their their thethose documents on my desk by the end of the day. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Okay, magifique. And finally, a story about some people in the Caribbean who were quarantining a little too well. This morning, three Cuban nationals are recovering after being stranded on a remote, deserted island for five weeks.
Starting point is 00:05:08 The married couple and another man were found on Anguila T, a small island between Key, West and the Bahamas. We actually discovered them waving next to their, um, a temporary shelter that they had built for themselves. Pictures show the shelter the three had made. With little food and water, they re-tied the thededededededededededededededededededededededededededededededededededededededededededededededededed toed toed toed toed toed to for themselves. Pictures show the shelter the three had made. With little food and water, they reportedly survived off rats and conchels. Good Lord, people.
Starting point is 00:05:33 That sounds absolutely traumatic. To be on a beach and not be able to Instagram it? That is a punishment I wish on nobody. But yeah, that's right. A married couple and another man was stranded on an island for 33 days. And the person I feel worse for is the other man. Because not only are you the third wheel, but once that rat supply dries up, you know you're the first thing on the menu. Why you guys, why are you guys looking at me like that?
Starting point is 00:06:02 I mean, something like that. But for real. Actually being stranded on a tropical island seems way less fun than they made it seem on Gilligan's island. I don't remember ever seeing Mary Ann walking around covered in rat blood. But let's move on to our top story. The second impeachment of Donald Trump, former President of the United States and current Marlago toilet clagger. Today was day three of the trial, and we'll catch you up on all of the latest in another
Starting point is 00:06:29 episode of The Magical Wonderful Road to Impeachment. The magical, wonderful road to impeachment. The magical, wonderful, it's a good to be a presidential harassment. So today was the final day of the Democrats presenting their case against Trump. And one of the more shocking revelations of the presentation has been the never-beforeseen footage of the riots, which showed us just how close some senators came to meeting the world's worst tour group. House impeachment managers used graphic new video and audio to recreate moments from
Starting point is 00:07:07 the Capitol siege. And some of that footage showed just how close lawmakers and their staffers came to the pro-Trump mob that stormed the Capitol. Among the very close calls, this security video showing Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer being escorted by his security detail, then quickly turning around after spotting nearby rioters. Another video shows Capitol Police Officer Eugene Goodman redirecting Senator Mitt Romney away from rioters just down the hall. All right, that is terrifying.
Starting point is 00:07:38 There were so many rioters in so many parts of the Capitol that these senators were just running around like they were stuck in the weekends half-time maze. And you can understand why Mitt Romney especially would be sprinting away from this mob. I mean, these are the people who were chanting, Hank Mike Pence. Mike Pence, the man who spent the last four years eye-banging the back of Trump's head. So to them, Mitt Romney is basically Mormon AOC. I mean, I the the the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi, thoom, thoom, thoome, thoomne, thi, thoome, thoome, thoome, thoome, thoome, thoomb. thoombunne, thoom. thoom. thoom. thoom. thoom. thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thi, thi, thi. And, thi. And, the, the, the, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, thr. And, throwne. And, the. And, to them, Mitt Romney is basically Mormon AOC. I mean, I don't know what Mitt would have done if he had run into them. He would have had to try and blend in with them. Let's find these traitors. It's time to kill the deep states.
Starting point is 00:08:14 I heartily agree, my good friends. And afterwards, let's go to the local confectionery and enjoy some vanilla milkshakes. What? Great idea! This guy's all right! But this isn't an impeachment trial of a few thousand insane Q&N followers. No, this is the impeachment of Donald Trump. So once again today, the Democrats focused on how Donald Trump incited the riot. And what was really helpful was that the rioters themselves provided the evidence.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Even after the attack, the insurrectionists made clear to law enforcement that they were just following President Trump's orders. They didn't shy away from their crimes because they thought they were following orders from the commander-in-chief. We were invited here! We were invited! Hey, we were invited here! We were invited by the President of the United States! There's a billion of us out there. If you're the boss, let's call Trump, yeah, let's call Trump, dude, let's tell Trump what's up.
Starting point is 00:09:22 We're fighting for Trump. Guys, come on. Don't call Trump in theell Trump what's up. We're fighting for Trump. Guys, come on. Don't call Trump in the middle of the riots. You just saw him at the rally a couple hours ago. You gotta be chill. You call the morning after the insurrection. You know, you gotta play the game. Also, how embarrassing is this for Trump?
Starting point is 00:09:39 Even his supporters knew they can call him any time, and he won't be busy busy, these videos make it pretty obvious that Trump incited the rioters. They were wearing Trump hats, carrying Trump flags, and they all just watched Trump speak, and they were chanting, Fight for Trump. Even that dog from Blues Clues is like, I need a challenge here, guys. We all know what this is, right? I mean, if one guy stormed the Capitol because he thought you said it to him, maybe you can just blame him. But if an entire stadium of people
Starting point is 00:10:09 misunderstood you in the exact same way, I don't know, man, that shit's on you. But if there's one theme of this trial, aside from Trump being super guilty, it's Republican senators not caring that Trump is super guilty. not caring that Trump is super guilty. The new evidence and the dramatic recreation of the January 6th. Mayhem apparently did very little to sway most, most of those Republican senators, the jurors. Some of them are explicitly not listening, feet up on deaes, they're reading books,
Starting point is 00:10:36 they're reading briefing papers on other topics. We are seeing more empty seats on the floor of the Senate. Our colleague Mani Raju was in the Senate chamber just a few moments ago. He counted up to 15 empty seats. While the Democrats were playing their video rider stormy the Capitol, a handful of Republican senators, including Rick Scott, Tom Cotton, Marco Rubio, barely even looked at the screen, according to reports. And Rand Paul was looking down at a paper in his lap where he had begun doodling with a pencil. Okay I'm sorry that is so disrespectful. Hey Rand Paul
Starting point is 00:11:08 why don't you show us what you were doodling instead of paying attention to the present... Oh my God, it's beautiful. Wow you should have been an artist Grant. You should... These sentences are a jury for a trial of the president, but instead, they're acting like bored middle schoolers. What do Democrats have to do to make this interesting for them? Bring in one of those math teachers who wraps everything? My name is Doug, and I'm here to say, democracy was threatened in a major way.
Starting point is 00:11:41 A boo-boo-ch. So, for many Republicans, there's nothing that could happen in this trial to change their minds. But if there's a Republican senator out there who's still struggling to ignore the evidence against Trump, well, good news. We have just the product for you. Are you a Republican senator feeling overwhelmed by overwhelming evidence? Introducing impeach pods. The only headphones with evidence cancelling technology,
Starting point is 00:12:10 so you can ignore even the loudest chance of hang Mike Pence. Impeach pods also drown out that little voice in your head that's disgusted with what you've become. You've sold your soul, Josh, you're a joke. Plus, they work great in TV interviews. This election was not stolen. Do you accept that fact? I think we have some audio problems right there. Impeach Pods. What insurrection! Order now and get a free my pillow to sleep through the rest of the trial and comfort. All right, when we come back, Jordan Klepper goes back to D.C. to to to to to to the to the the to the the to the to through the rest of the trial and comfort. All right, when we come back, Jordan Klepper goes back to D.C. to see what happened after the Capitol riots. And Daniel Kaluya is joining us on the show, so don't go away.
Starting point is 00:12:56 When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. You're rolling? But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes a second look, starting September 17th, wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show. This is the second time that Democrats have impeached Donald Trump. And it raises the question, have they learned any lessons from the first time?
Starting point is 00:13:39 Well, to find out, we sent Jordan Klepper down to Washington, D.C. for another episode of, Fingers the Pulse. It's impeachment week. Again. So I'm back in Washington, D.C., where our capital is a bit different from the last time I was here. It is hard to figure out how to get in towards the Capitol. I want to get to the Capitol. Could I... all the way down the Constitution? There are miles and miles of fences. Somebody get on parlor or something to figure out how to get in there. And the thousands of screaming MAGA folks is down to... too. What do you think of the impeachment? This sign says it wasn't the president who called the riots. What I saw and what there's a lot of evidence showing is that many of the initial people
Starting point is 00:14:30 who entered the building violently were leftist, have antifa. I was here. It seemed like a lot of people were Trump supporters. A thousand people broke into the Capitol, erected a news outside and the speaker the house and the vice president. I literally think that you have added the try to kill all those things and you have ignored. I gotta show you some videos. I want to trade videos because I'd love to share video with you as well. I'm not going to give you my email. Yet the MAGA Faithful Aren't the only ones who want to go to the quote, have a fast-paced cinematic case. Raskin is aiming for a blockbuster action film this week. Yes, impeachment too is bigger and louder and more cinematic than the first one,
Starting point is 00:15:11 because as we all know, when you're dealing with American audiences, stunning imagery goes farther than facts. What are you doing? Are you doing the spinning bad boy shot? Don't we always do the bad boy shot, stop it. I understand the Democrats' movie making angle, but how is th?. th, th, th, th, th, th, but th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus thus, thus, thus, thus, thi, thi, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, thi, yes, yes, yes, yes, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. Yes, th. Yes, th. Yes, th. Yes, th. Yes, th. Yes, th. Yes, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thiiii. Yes, thiii. Yes, thi. Yes, thi. Yes, thi. Yes,? Don't we always do the bad boys shot. Stop it. I understand the Democrats' movie-making angle, but how is this blockbuster approach playing with the few locals we could actually find? The first impeachment gets in the weeds. Feels a little bit more like a complicated spy drama made by a foreign director.
Starting point is 00:15:42 This new one, I think it's just so obvious. You know, it was full of drama and chaos, unfortunately, murder and sedition. You know, it has all of the good plot twist of a crime. I'm not excited about it because the fact that it had to happen is because something horrible happened in the first place. You're not excited for the new impeachment. Would you say you're getting too old for this shit? I am Bruce Willis too old for this shit.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Definitely Danny Glover. You know. Leth The Weatha the weapon Danny Glover. I guess Bruce Willis was getting too old for the diehard series in and of itself. All I'm saying is somebody needs to say As a lavista baby, am I'm right? As long as there's not a th. the the the the th. th. th. the the th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th, th, thi, definitely, is, is th. th, th, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, Danny, definitely, Danny, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is a to is, is, is, is a to is a to is a to is a to is a to is a to is a to is a to is a to is a th. I is a thi, is a thi, is a thi, is a thi, is a thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, t thin, ttau. I's ttax. today, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, today, is a today. I's is a ttax. I's not a third movie, I'll be great. I hope you're right, although we do have a villain who's never been held accountable in his life. It kind of keeps the franchise open. I think they had a good opening day with the video, and I think Jamie Raskin did a really good job of explaining that. Some people were either getting ready to just hide behind their desk or like a thrown people to care about.
Starting point is 00:16:46 Exactly. Where's Jordan Peel? He should be an impeachment manager. He's too busy making scary stuff that I only stay through half of, because it's both scary, and I have certain race guilt issues because of my privilege. Showing hours and hours of footage of blatant criminality seems like a sound legal tactic.
Starting point is 00:17:05 So how does the 2020 lead impeachment manager, Adam Schiff, feel the sequel stacks up to the original? Ours might have been more, the Ken Burns documentary, this might be more of the HBO miniseries, but, you know, we had to try to bring to life events that were happening half a world away in Ukraine. Here, you don't have to imagine any anything anything anything anything anything anything anything anything anything anything anything anything anything anything anything anything anything anything the the the events that were happening half a world away in Ukraine. Here, you don't have to imagine anything because the senators were there. The house members were there.
Starting point is 00:17:32 We watched it on our television screens. Why do you think the impeachment is necessary? It's absolutely necessary. If he's not disqualified now, if the senators don't follow their oath, don't follow the evidence, and he's acquitted again, and he decides to run again, he will put the country through hell again. Is accountability really America's thing? I mean, that's, we're better at like barbecue and wrap-around sunglasses. Well, I think that the lack of priority on accountability over the last several years has been why we're in this predicament.
Starting point is 00:18:02 There are critics who say Congress should go back to doing more important things, like stopping the space lasers that are causing all the wildfires. Should we be focusing on those big important issues? This points to another huge problem, not the lasers. The wildfires. But the people who believe. In that cooky, crazy, bad shit shit conspiracy theory stuff. They're members of Congress now. How do you convince people who are both witnesses and
Starting point is 00:18:32 jurors to a crime that a crime actually occurred? The Republican Party needs to be a party of ideas and ideology again. The end of the day what this is really about is can they find the courage to t of the day, what this is really about is, can they find the courage to tell their constituents back home that what they were fed by Donald Trump was a bunch of lies? So you're banking on the courage of someone like Ted Cruz? Good luck with that. If I was gonna bank on that, I would be bankrupt a long time ago.
Starting point is 00:19:01 I was gonna say, he won't even stand up for his wife, let alone the country. So the final jury is the American people, which in like Rotten Tomatoes, it's like the critics score versus the audience score. Now, the first impeachment was great. Critics loved it. Audience was so-so on it. But maybe for this new one, the audience score pops right up and there's a conviction. Well, I'm hoping that that the audience the audience the audience the audience the audience the audience, the audience, the audience, the audience, the audience, the audience, the audience, the audience, the audience, the audience, the audience, the audience, the audience, the audience, the audience, the audience, the audience, the audience, the audience, the audience, the audience, the audience score, the audience, the audience, the audience, the audience, the audience, the audience, the audience, the the the the the their their their their their their, their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the the audience score and the senator's score are in alignment and they both say we never want to see the likes of Donald Trump in office again.
Starting point is 00:19:30 So will impeachment too don't rush to judgment day move any Senate Republicans to convict Trump? As I look around our transformed capital for signs of hope, I know. No more bad boy shots. Okay? I'm no no. Thank you so much for that Jordan. All right when we come back Daniel Kaluya joins me on the show to talk about his brand new movie Judas and the Black Messiah you don't
Starting point is 00:19:56 want to miss it. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968 there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. You're rolling? But that's all about to change. Like, none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible.
Starting point is 00:20:18 I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 minutes, a second look on Apple podcasts starting September 17. Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show. Earlier today, I spoke with award-winning actor Daniel Kaluya. We talked about his brand new film where he portrays Black Panther Chairman, Fred Hampton. I am a revolutionary. What's that, Trevor, man? What's going on? You can kill a revolutionary, but you can't kill a revolution.
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Starting point is 00:21:11 and you go home and you do whatever you want to do what I'm doing to do what I'm good, you know when you're doing something that you're proud of? You know what I say? Everyone put everything into that. Everyone put everything into that. So I'm feeling good, man. How are you? I like your hair, man. Thank you very much, man. I'm ready to join the Black Panther Party.
Starting point is 00:21:32 That's what I'm ready now. I can see you on the front line with that hair stuff, but I can't feel feel feel feel feel feel feel feel feel feel feel feel feel feel feel feel feel tip, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, this movie, you must be tired, man, you must be running around doing press because everybody should want to speak to you about this film, Judas and the Black Messiah. Like, look, Daniel, you've known for a long time I'm one of your biggest fans, but you know, there are things that, you know, even if you love Leonel Messi, there's still a goal that he'll scule, where you're like, how do you do that? That's what I feel like you do with your acting, is I know how you act. I love how you act. Whether it's Queen and Slim, you know, whether it's Get Out, it doesn't matter what it is.
Starting point is 00:22:12 But in this film, in Judas and the Black Messiah, we see a side of not, I think I can't thus the black the black the black the thra thra thra thr. th bit about the story and why Daniel Kalua decided now. I think I can bring this person to life in a way that a lot of people haven't seen before. Yes, you know, Chairman Fred, he was a man of the people, you know, he was in Chicago and he became chairman of the Illinois chapter of the Black Panther Party. And Ryan and Zinzi Kugler actually pulled me to the side on the black pamper reshoots and asked me to be a part of it and when I just thought honored I just felt honored that they even saw me in that way you know it kind of something that came to me they saw it before I saw it and and and then yeah I just read the script and I was just like you know there's a lot of information about their their their. their. their. their. their. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I just th. I just th. I just th. I just th. I just th. I just th. I just th. I just th. I just th. I just read I just read I just read I just read I just read I just read I just read I just read I just read I just read I just read I just read I just read I just read I just read I just read I just read I just read I just read I just read I just read I just read I just read I just read I just read I just read I just read I just read I just read I just read I just read I just read I just read I just read I just read I just read I just read I just read I just read. I just read I just read. I just read I just read I just read. I just read I just read I just read. I just read their. I just read their. I just read their. I just read their. I just read their. I just read their. I just read their. I just read their. I just read their. I just read their. I just read I just read I just read the script and I was just like, you know, there's a lot of information about how he died, but there's not a lot of information about how remarkably he lived you know. That's what it is, it's like, wow, this guy lived incredibly. You know what I'm saying?
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Starting point is 00:24:02 I think preconceptions is the perfect word because the stories that we've been told about so many historical figures are told by the people who oftentimes either ended their lives prematurely or didn't want them to free the people they were trying to free. I mean, Nelson Mandela was labeled as a terrorist, you know, Mahatma Gandhi was person-Nongrader with the British. the British.. Fri. Fri. Fri. Fri. Fri. Fri. Fri. Fri. Fred. Fred. Fred. Fred. Fred. Fred. Fred. Fred. Fred. Fred. Fred. Fred. Fred. Fred. Fred. Fred. Fred. Fred. Fred. Fred. Fred. Fred. thso. thso with the British. Fred Hampton was no different. And what I love about the story is, it doesn't show us a simplistic view of the Black Panther Party or Fred Hampton. It shows us a holistic view.
Starting point is 00:24:32 In this film though, we go, these were human beings fighting for their rights. And what I loved was how the story talks about how the Black Panther Party built a coalition of black, white and Hispanic and Hispanic and Hispanic and Hispanic and Hispanic and Hispanic and Hispanic and Hispanic and Hispanic and Hispanic and Hispanic and Hispanic and Hispanic to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to Hispanic to fight against oppression. Yeah, yeah, that was the scariest thing to the powers that beat, you know, is that that Chairman Fred had the knowledge, the clarity, and the ability to kind of see people from different communities and understand that they were more aligned than people would think, especially people that they had conflicts with, like the young patriots, you know, there's a scene in the film where we go in there and we're greeted
Starting point is 00:25:05 with the Confederate flag, right? And even in conflict, Chairman Fred and a Black Panther Party found points of interest, you know, but not in sacrifice of their love of blackness and love of the black community. Because now living a day and age, if you join with someone with someone that with someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone that that that that is that that that that that that that that that that that that that that's that that that's that that someone that isn't aligned with you you feel like you're selling out, you're compromising yourself. Is that that thought was even in their mind? It was all to bolster the love for the community but they saw
Starting point is 00:25:32 that them they were they was better in solidarity than in fragmentation you know. I would love to know from your side as Daniel how did you begin to embody Fred the way that you did like what what did you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th. th. the the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. that that that that that the. that that the. That the. That th. That th. That's th. That's th. That's th. That's th. That's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. the. to embody Fred the way that you did? Like what what did you look for in him that helped you bring him to life in this movie? You know what is Trevor? I was kind of, I was in a space where I would watch his speeches and be aware of how I was feeling moved and and that so then I was like, oh my go too to occupy moved and and and that. So then I was like, oh my goal is to occupy his spiritual space, that position. Saying and Cole, I want to move the audience in the way that he is moving me at this moment. You know, I don't really know the words for that
Starting point is 00:26:17 feeling that I felt, but I knew I felt it and I said I knew I was able to occupy it and I was like all right cool let me just go there and let me have that as my aspiration in terms of this and that's kind of it's kind of like you're a vessel in those situations in certain scenes but saying these actual words in me you can't help but let the words tell you how to play it that the world words tell you the words tell you how to be the the the the the words the words the words the words to to the words to to to to to the to the to to the to the words to to the to the to the words to to the words to to to the words to the words to to to to to to the words to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the words the words the words to the words the words to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the words the words the words the words to be the words the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the words words. the words. the words the words the words tolde. told. told. the words. to told. to the voice and how important that was, because I feel like Get Out was all about the eyes. You know, you made those eyes come alive. It felt like that was the whole story and it felt like in this, a lot of Fred is that voice. Yeah, it was, the voice was everything in approaching it. So then I was, when I started dialet work with Oji Lecron, amazing dilet coach, it was a real, it was a real kind a real kind kind a real kind kind kind kind kind a real, it was a real, it was a real, it, a real, it, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a th, a th, a th, a th, a th, a th, a of real challenge. And also another thing is what I had to really watch my voice because I'm not classically trained,
Starting point is 00:27:09 well how I arrived to acting was a very raw improv way. Yeah. I had a tendency when I did plays to kind of just go, and just lead with emotion but damage my voice. And I knew on this one I couldn't afford to say because you're doing 12 hour days with just doing speeches. So Audrey said, you should look into a singing coach, so I found an opera singing coach. Wow. I'm with an opera singing coach and then, because I just, I loved the opera singers commanded the space.
Starting point is 00:27:39 And I saw, sonically, Chairman Fred felt like that, you know, how he occupied a room, you know, he just occupied it. And, and because of the amount I was, so, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to to to to to to, I the to to to to to to to, I to, I to, I to, I to, I to, I to, I to, I to, I to, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I to, I, I to, I to to to to, I I I I I to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th.... I to to to to to to to toldld, to to to to to to to to told, to to to to to to to to to to to to to that. You know, how he occupied a room. You know, he just occupied it. And because of the amount I was doing, I needed to engage my diaphragm and condition my vocal chords for those kind of days. And so I would do gospel songs, and I would do songs that felt like Chairman Fred's speeches, and then I was studying cadence.
Starting point is 00:28:01 Because he had a different cadence to when he spoke, to the different cadence to when he did speech. Right. And so identify and defining those differences, but also feeling like the same person. It's kind of like, it was, it was, uh, there was a kind of, but also for me, it was, what, was the speech patterns was like a clue into his thought patterns. Having spent all this time embodying the man, researching him, living in him, you know, recreating that history. What do you think some of the misconceptions are that people have about Fred Hampton that you've learned about him and maybe has changed in your mind as well since taking on this
Starting point is 00:28:34 role? I was blessed enough that I didn't have any preconceptions about him, you know, and I didn't have any preconceptions about the Black Pepper party. I just understood the other people in order for, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, you, like, you, you, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, preconceptions about the black pepper party. I just understood the other people in order for, you know, like the white fear dressed as hate. In all their which it manifested as like these people are like, like killing us, they're terrorists, they like the Ku Klux Klan. You know, and it's that kind of thing where like actually I feel like these people were like incredible uncompromising love for themselves. And they would guard themselves with guns and they guard their community with guns
Starting point is 00:29:09 because you're trying to kill us. It's like if you don't protect your family, I say if someone got a burglary comes into your house and you don't protect your family, what you're saying about yourself? And what you're saying about how you feel about your family? Everyone understands that scenario. But I the black the black the black the black the black the black the black the black the black the black the black the black their their their their their their their their think the black community within America, there's a lot happening, there's these people that occupy in their spaces and
Starting point is 00:29:28 oppressing these people and black people around the world, you know, press all that. If you don't stand up for yourself, it doesn't make sense. It makes sense to protect yourself. But it's not only did they protect themselves, they loved themselves. And the protection protection protection protection protection protection protection protection protection protection protection protection protection protection protection their protection protection their protection their protection their protection their protection is their protection is their protection is just their protection is just their protection is just just just just just just their protection is justselves, you know, and the protection was just a manifestation of a form of love, you know? One thing that really stood out to me in this film was realizing how people are connected around the globe without even realizing it. And when you watch the story of the Black Panthers, they were an international organization, they were here, and they were trying to expand in the US, but they, they they their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, their, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e. the.e. the. thea, one, the. the, and they were trying to expand in the US, but they talked to people from different places around the world and said, you share a struggle that we share,
Starting point is 00:30:09 and we want to do this together. How do you think that has factored into, like how you play these roles and what you think about it? You know, when you look at life. But sometimes there's a disconnect and I feel like the Black Panthers understood that. They would connect with black from other places to be like, yo, we are all black and we're all experiencing this oppression in a similar and yet different way. I think that Chairman Fred especially, I understood it was an international struggle, you know. You see it in the first speech that he references the Mozambique and Freilu fighters, you know? Right, right.
Starting point is 00:30:45 The struggles in Angola, you know, it's that he's he under, he's connecting the dots. You know, when I was like, his points of references were like, Yomo Kinya, you know, it's like, and you can go on that kind of rabbit hole and go down there and find out all the stuff stuffer and in th......... And th. And the stuff stuff stuff stuff, th. And th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, thi, thi, they, they, they, thi, they, is they, is they, is that's, is that's, is, is, is they, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is they.... And, is they. And, is they. And, is they. He. He. He. He's, is they, is they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they what's happening here and what sometimes what pitfalls to look out for. You know, like some over-throwing actually you're just replacing what was there with a black face. You know, and it's like it's an issue is capitalism, you know. Yes. And so it's understanding, understanding that he, they saw it as a macro point of view, you know, and it's right. They saw it is, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, the the th, th, th is, th is, the the the th is, the th is, their, is, is, is, is, is, is, is a the the the their, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is a the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is a the as a macro point of view, you know? And they saw it as, this is a Western construct that's kind of, a Western virus.
Starting point is 00:31:30 It's like, you know, it's like, it's like a pandemic, you know, and what's, what's happened to black people and the oppression of black people from white fear and white anxiety. I hope that everyone who's voting, sees the film as well, because it deserves every award, a world possible............. And, to. And, to. And, to. And, to. And, to. And, to. And, to. And, to. And, to. And, to. And, to. And, to. And, to. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they, they, they, they, the, the, they. And, they. And, the, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, the film and then I hope that everyone who's voting sees the film as well because it deserves every award possible. Thank you for creating it. Thank you for being here. I love seeing you again, my friend. Love man, appreciate you, my bro.
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