The Daily Show: Ears Edition - The Pandemic Fuels Anti-Asian Racism | Bill Gates
Episode Date: February 17, 2021Ronny Chieng shares ways to combat the rise in anti-Asian hate crimes, Roy Wood Jr. explores the history of Black doctors, and Bill Gates discusses "How to Avoid a Climate Disaster."To learn more abou...t efforts to stop racism and violence against Asian Americans, please visit stopaapihate.org, compassioninoakland.org, hateisavirus.org, advancingjustice-aajc.org and caasf.org. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Well hey what's going on everybody I'm Trevor Noah and this is the daily social distancing show.
Today is February 16th and here's your helpful vaccine tip of the day.
If you've already been
vaccinated, it is still important to wear a mask because it's the only thing
that hides how happy you are. None of us want to see that shit! Busy showing up
with your vaccine. Put a mosque on and hide your face, you lucky bastard.
Anyway, on tonight's show, we look at the recent violence against Asians in America.
Roywood Jr tells us about America's black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black. the their. the recent violence against Asians in America. Roywood Jr. tells us about America's black doctors,
and a winter storm is messing with Texas.
Plus, Bill Gates is joining me as our guest.
So let's do this, people.
Welcome to the Daily Social Distancing Show.
From Trevor's couch in New York City to your couch somewhere in the world.
This is the Daily Social Distancing Show with Trevor Noah.
Ears Edition.
Let's kick things off with the crazy weather sweeping across the United States today.
Because right now, everywhere in the country, if you look outside your window, you're seeing snow.
I mean, except for Florida. If you're looking outside your window, that white stuff you're seeing, that's probably cocaine. But for the places that aren't used to having winter, this storm is causing major problems.
Nearly 200 million Americans are now in the path of a dangerous winter storm system,
with warnings and alerts now stretching from the Mexican border all the way to Maine.
44 states on alert this morning, about 70% of the continental US is covered in snow right now, that is the highest highest the highest th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thiiii. to thi. to, thi. tooome. tooome. tooome. to, to, to, to to to to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, US is covered in snow right now. That is the highest in a decade.
Nowhere is harder hit than Texas.
Where more than 3 million homes and businesses are without power and heat,
the electrical grid simply can't handle the demand.
Officials imposed rolling blackouts,
saying the lack of energy is due in part to frozen wind turbines in West Texas
knocked off line.
Pipes freezing and bursting across the state, whom these power lines sizzling,
taken out by heavy ice in Louisiana.
Slow down, slow down, slow down.
Frozen Road sent an 18-wheeler careening out of control
near Austin,
and a man nearly lost his life,
jumping just seconds before a car lost control
and crashed into a police cruiser.
Oh, hell no!
Trucks spinning around, cars flying off the road?
The storm has turned Texas into that ice level for Mario Cart.
I was in Texas right now, I'm carrying around a green shell with me just to be safe.
And how about that guy who jumped out of the way of a flipping car?
That was some real action movie shit, like real-life action movie.
The only thing missing was him turning to the camera afterwards with like one of those
cool one-liners. Ice try, buddy. And you gotta understand, this is especially tough
for Texans because they're not equipped for snow. They don't have snow shovels out there.
Their best bet is to grab their air. 15s and shoot each snowflake before it lands.
Go back to Canada where you belong!
But this just goes to show you that with climate change, everyone has to be prepared for every
kind of condition no matter where you live.
You're in Arizona, well you better get a parker. Minnesota, you need a big sunhead. New York, you start carrying around an anti-scorpion
spray. That's not a climate change things. My pet scorpion has escaped. So, if you find
Roger, please, please return him. Now, it turns out, there are a lot of reasons that Texas
has suffered such a huge power outage. Supply for electricity is down. The demand is surging.
But experts also say that Texas
neglected and under-invested in its grid until it finally broke during the storm. And
look guys, I get it. Spending money on maintaining infrastructure is probably the least sexy
thing that you can do with your tax dollars. But it's one of those things you're going to take
for granted until you're in an emergency. It's the same way how the people who built the Titanic didn't focus on lifeboats.
Instead, they were too focused on getting cars for their passengers to bang in.
But let's move on now from news to New Orleans, where the drinks are strong, the people
are friendly and the wanes are little little thiiii. Today is Mardii. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their, their, their, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thoom. their, their. their. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. th. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. the. tta. the. tta. tta. the. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. It's. togn. It's toge. It's toge. toge. togu. toge. togu. togu. togu. togu. toe. toe. the city would normally throw its famous costumed parade.
But in Corona times, things are a little more subdued.
It may be the quietest Bourbon Street has ever been on Mardi Gras.
Normally the heart of the city's most iconic celebration, the French quarter is virtually empty.
Almost a year into the pandemic, New Orleans isn't taking any chances.
It limited liquor sales and shut down all bars for the five days leading up to Fat Tuesday.
It's not going to be not celebrated, it's just going to be celebrated differently.
Local artists are turning Mardi Gras into Yardy Gra, with themed outdoor displays inspired by both tradition and pop culture.
Even a global pandemic can't keep these beats away.
Yes, friends, this year, Mardi Gras is Yardigra.
And I think this is the right move.
I mean, the sooner the people of New Orleans
can stop the spread of COVID,
the sooner they can get back to spreading gonorrhea.
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I mean, during a pandemic, a Tuba just turns into a COVID fire hose.
But honestly, I'm glad that they've found a way to safely still celebrate Mardi Gras.
And remember, we can find ways to do things during this pandemic.
Like you and I, we can celebrate Mardi Gras from home over Zoom.
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And finally, there's some good news for disease expert and pandemic zaddy, Dr. Anthony Fauci,
the only person who may come out of the pandemic better off than he went into it.
Dr. Anthony Fauci is being honored for what's described as his work defending science of the pandemic better off than he went into it.
Dr. Anthony Fauci is being honored for what's described as his work defending science during the pandemic.
The Israeli-based Dan David Foundation says Dr. Fauci is being awarded a $1 million prize.
The private foundation said President Biden's chief medical advisor earned the recognition
for a lifetime of leadership on HIV research and AIDS relief as well as advocating for science and coronavirus vaccines. Wow
congratulations Dr. Fauci. I mean the man has definitely earned this prize
because we all know the real reason he's getting a million dollars is for
working with Trump and not getting fired. He's basically the most successful
apprentice contestant of all time. I hope that Fauci uses this money to get something nice for himself,
you know, like a diamond-studded face mask.
Although, he doesn't seem like a ball out of control kind of guy.
You know, I bet Fauchy just uses the money to keep fighting the pandemic,
just bringing people like,
let's cut to the chase. I'll give you a,000 if you don't go bowling tonight, everybody. I will be honest, though, I've never heard of this foundation before today.
And part of me hopes that this isn't a coronavirus trap.
You know, Dr. Fauci's gonna walk into the room to get his prize, and it's just gonna
be Corona standing there with a baseball bat. What do you say now? I'm wearing a mask, so nothing much really.
You want to take that mask off and fight me?
No.
Well, that's going to make things harder for me.
Come on, Fauci, help me out a little here.
But let's move on now to today's main story.
The coronavirus pandemic has been hard on a lot of people in America. Health care workers, parents, people with only a hot bottom half of thiiiiiii. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thiol-a, thi. thathea, thathea, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. toa. toa. toa. toa. toa. toa. toauu toau toau toau toau toau toa. toea. toea a hot bottom half of the face.
But there's one community that has faced a unique crisis, the Asian community.
And their situation has only been getting worse.
A wave of violence against elderly Asian Americans putting communities across the country
on edge.
The coronavirus's origin in China has caused a backlash against Asian Americans.
A 91-year-old man pushed in Oakland's Chinatown, one of three attacks that day.
The spike in violence forcing the Alameda County District Attorney to form a special response
unit. President Biden last month signing an executive order with new Justice Department
guidance on how to specifically report anti-Asian hate incidents.
Hollywood stars speaking out, using their fame to raise awareness and donate funds to specifically report anti-Asian hate incidents.
Hollywood stars speaking out, using their fame to raise awareness
and donate funds to organizations that fight hate.
After seeing this video in Oakland's Chinatown,
actor and producers Daniel Wu and Daniel Day Kim spoke out
and offered a $25,000 reward for an arrest.
The way we see it is that it's not one community against another.
It's everyone versus racism.
All right, this is horrifying and sad to watch.
People are attacking Asians in America, even 91-year-olds,
just because the coronavirus started in China, which is insane.
And you know what?
Good for Daniel Wu and Daniel Day Kim for
putting up the cash reward for an arrest. But it's sad that they even had to resort to this.
I mean, if you know that someone racially attacked a senior citizen, you should snitch on site.
No incentives should be needed. Like, who is out there watching their TV like, I mean, yeah, sure. I saw that dude attack an old Asian man, but what's in it for me me me me me me me me me me me me. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And thu. And thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, th. th. th. th. th. th. that, that, that, that, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. But, th. But, th. But, th. But, th. But, th. But, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. And, th. And, theeee. And, that, that, that, that, that. And, that, that, that. And, that, that, an old Asian man, but what's in it for me?
And while a lot of people are talking about the situation now,
the truth is, it's not exactly new.
In fact, it's been building since the very beginning of the pandemic.
The Asian American community has been faced with effectively two pandemics.
The first is the COVID-19 pandemic, but the second pandemic, it's a virus of racism that we have faced.
Asian Americans advancing justice has cited at least 3,000 anti-Asian incidents since last February.
In New York City, there was an 867% increase in Asian hate crime victims in 2020 compared to the year before.
Advocates say these attacks became more prevalent after former President Trump began routinely using racist language to describe to the year before. Advocates say these attacks became more prevalent
after former President Trump began routinely using racist language
to describe the pandemic.
Chinatown was one of the earliest New York City communities
to get hit during the coronavirus pandemic,
and it was hit hard.
Many businesses still struggling to stay open now,
nearly a year later.
I think it was racism, people said, it's Chinatown, there's bound to be COVID there.
And that stigma has sparked some dangerous incidents, some documents on social media.
If you're from China, I need to know.
Like this hotel manager in Indiana.
Because why?
Because there's a coronavirus going around and anyone from China, I am told, has to be picked up
in quarantine for two weeks. Good lord lord. thoodododododododododododododododododododododododod tho. And tho. And tho. And tho. And tho. And tho. And tho. And tho. And thi, thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi thi thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi thi thi thi thi thi their their their their their their their their their their th. And th. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And to to to to thi. And thi. And to to to to thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. am told, has to be picked up in quarantine for two weeks.
Good Lord. An 867% increase in reported hate crimes against Asians in New York City.
867%. This shit is like the game stop of racism.
And it's especially crazy when you consider that everyone was indoors all year.
I mean, you know people are true assholes if they'll risk getting corona just to show you
how racist they are.
But what can we do about this rising violence?
Well, here to share a few real ways that you can help fight hate crimes against Asian
people in America, we turn to the daily shows very own, Ronnie.
Ronnie, I'm sorry that we're chatting under such sad
circumstances but it is always great to see your face. Yes, thank you Trevor. It is
always great to see my face. But you know what? Now it's not the time to
talk about how incredibly handsome I am or how I'm somehow getting better with age
because this other issue is more important. Well I mean we definitely agree on that.
So so how can people help fight these hate crimes?
So there are a few big ways people can help.
I mean, number one is, if you see a hate crime or harassment
or discrimination, report it.
Because if authorities don't hear about hate crimes,
they won't do anything about it.
But if you have a mountain of evidence,
it's impossible to ignore what's happening, you're a Republican in an impeachment truck.
Well, I mean, of course, yes, but that's a totally different issue.
The question is, though, how can I or anyone else report a hate crime?
You can use the website below.
It's quick and super easy to use.
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Oh, yeah, dude, that taco was super guilty. I don't even know why people are like,
wow, hashtag free that taco. Come on if you're in an area where these attacks have been happening,
volunteer to be a chaperone.
Organizations like Compassion in Oakland will connect you with Asian elders
to help keep them safe when they're walking around.
And it's a win-win situation, because elderly Asians have so much
to their tasks to get. Like, you could learn from their for anything. One conversation and you'll never overpay for shrimp paste again. Trevor, how much are you paying for your shrimp
paste right now? Right right now? I don't I don't buy shrimp paste. I don't what is
that to like glue shrimp together? What do you use that for? Okay, well that's
another hate crime I'll have to be reporting. Oh no no, no, Ronnie, no, I love shrimp paste all the shrimps. It's. It's, I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I don't th. I don't th. I don't tho. I don't tho. I don't tho. I don't tho. I don't tho. I don't thr-I don't thr-I don't thr-I thr-I. I don't th paste. I paste all the shrimps. It's too late, Trevor, okay? But if you want to make up for it, you can donate to one of these organizations, working
hard to support and protect the Asian community.
I know you've got all the money from all your shrimp paste savings.
All right, well, I'm on it, man.
Thank you so much, Ronnie.
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I mean what the fuck is wrong with you?
Shove me an old lady isn't going to make a dick any bigger, okay? Just buy a convertible like everybody else.
Okay, I think I think that's everything. So yeah, I think we can finally talk about how good looking I've become.
I'm sorry, Ronnie, but unfortunately we've just run out of time.
Oh, okay, well, that's cool.
But hey, you know what, you can just email me any compliments you have at Handsome Ronnie
at the Daily Show.
And keep trying if the inbox is full.
Yeah, I'll make sure that the people know.
Yeah, I'll make sure that the people know about. But first, we'll be going to the other websites.
Thank you so much, Ronnie.
Thank you.
You stay safe and handsome out there, my friend.
All right, when we come back, Roywood Jr.
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When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it.
This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television.
Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives.
You're rolling?
But that's all about to change.
Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible.
I'm Seth Done of CBS News.
Listen to 60 minutes, a second look.
Starting September 17th, wherever you get your podcasts.
Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show. February, as you know, is
Black History Month and we're celebrating it all month long with Roywood Jr.
honoring the unsung heroes of Black History in another episode of CP Time. Oh, hello. Welcome to CP Time.
The only show.
It's for the culture.
Today,
we'll be discussing the history of black doctors.
And I know that nowadays there are black doctors everywhere.
On the sexy TV shows,
in the raping studios, even in the state penitentiary. There are so many black doctors,
we even have fake black doctors, like Dr. Love. The 17-year-old who put on a white lab coat
and gave medical advice until he was arrested. I'm glad he got caught before he gave me
that vasectomy.
Money saved.
But while black doctors may seem commonplace today,
for the longest time,
black people's contributions to the field of medicine
has been overlooked.
And by overlooked, I mean stolen by white people.
So let's discover some of these black professionals.
Starting with Dr. Charles Drew.
During the Second World War, Dr. Drew conducted groundbreaking research into blood transfusions
that led to the creation of blood banks, which saved the lives of thousands of soldiers.
Dr. Drew's research undoubtedly helped Allied forces defeat the Nazis, and it helped Matt
Damon get home to his mammy.
But in 1942, the military decided to segregate blood banks by race.
And in response, Dr. Drew resigned in protests, and I applaud him for it.
Getting blood donations from one race isn't going to change your race.
Trust me, I received plasma from a white man once. It did not affect my credit school at all.
Moving on. Another black doctor who overcame racism and sexism was Dr. Ball.
Dr. Ball developed the first effective treatment for leprosy by chemically modifying chalmugra
oil to make it water soluble.
I have no idea what any of that means, but it sounds smart.
Makes me wonder if this chalmugra oil might help me with my asher skin.
This pandemic got me washing my hands so much.
I'm going through two bottles of lotion a week.
Not much this costs. Moving on to Dr. Daniel
Hale Williams, who in 1893 performed the world's first successful heart
surgery. Interestingly enough, Williams started off as a barber, which makes sense.
The only thing with higher stakes than performing the first heart surgery is
cutting a black man's hair.
You don't want to mess that up.
Dr. Williams was a pioneer and his work opened the door for other black surgeons like the
world famous neurosurgeon, Ben Carson, Dr. Carson made a name for himself in the 1980s
by separating conjoined twins.
And that's what I choose to remember him for.
Great job when that surgery, Dr. Carson.
It's too bad we never heard from you again.
Finally, we must discuss Onesimus.
A black man who made contributions even while he was enslaved.
During a smallpox outbreak in Boston in 1721,
Onesimus taught his master about
inoculation practices he had learned in Africa.
Over there, they would take the pus from a sick person's wound
and rub it into the open wound of a healthy person.
It's nasty, but it works.
Eventually, the idea caught on, and thanks to Onesimus, Massachusetts vaccinated its population
and stemmed the outbreak.
And today, people's mistrust of vaccines is a thing of the past.
Totally a thing of the past, never to be discussed ever again.
Well that's all the time we have today. I'm
Roywood Jr. and this has been CP time from home and remember, well for the
culture, I got to call Dr. Love, see if he out of jail, this vasectomy I still might
need to get that. All right, when we come back, the one and only Bill Gates is joining us on the show to talk about the vaccine microchip that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he is that he is th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, and thi, and thi, and th. thi, and th. And th. thi, and thi, and th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And, th. And, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th is th is thi, thi, thi, thi's thi's the is the the the the the the the the the that the the that that that the, that the, th back, the one and only, Bill Gates is joining us on the show to
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Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show.
Earlier today, I spoke with Bill Gates.
We talked about coronavirus vaccines, his new book about climate change, and so much more.
Bill Gates, welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show.
Good to see you.
This is the third time that you have appeared on the social distancing version of the show,
and we've had varied conversations. One, right at the beginning of the pandemic,
where you told people that we should be prepared
for a really horrible time that was going to roll out.
People didn't believe it, and then it happened.
You came back the second time and said,
okay, vaccines are gonna be a challenge,
and this is what we need to get ready for,
and that is what we're living in now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now time on the show. Are you here to deliver doom and gloom or you're telling us about some good news?
Why are you here, Bill?
Well, for the pandemic,
the vaccines are going to bring this to an end.
It's been complicated to get them out,
but that's really a miracle of innovation.
Now I'm warning about climate change.
I've got a new book that focuses on how we avoid a disaster.
Before we get into the book, I wanted to talk to you about the vaccines.
You posted a picture of yourself receiving your vaccine as somebody who's 65 and older.
And as you know from the internet, you made the vaccines to put microchips in them
to control everybody's minds. So my question to you is, what are you trying to control your own mind to do?
Are you trying to like stop yourself from eating ice cream or like what are you trying to do?
Whenever I get lost, the microchip can help me figure out where I am, I guess.
The idea I want to figure out where everyone is, that's a strange one for me.
Yeah, no, I'm lucky to have gotten the vaccine.
It's the first time I've been happy to be 65.
Let's move on and talk about another looming crisis facing the world.
You've talked a lot about the pandemic.
Now you are talking about climate change.
In your new book, you talk about how to avoid a climate disaster. The question is, is it avoidable?
Well, this will be the hardest thing we've ever done, because the sources of emissions are
very broad.
You know, it's not just electricity or cars, it's also cows, it's cement, it's steel, it's planes.
And so we have to change all those things to be green and we only have 30 years.
So only if the younger generation worldwide is kind of bothering the politicians and speaking
out loudly that morally this is a cause that they believe in, only with that, a lot of
innovation, some brilliant policies, that's what it'll take to make this grand transformation.
It feels like a theoretical conversation though.
What I did enjoy in the book is you've laid out steps that you think people can actually take
and governments can actually move forward too.
What do you think some of the most concrete steps are that we can achieve today that can help us tomorrow?
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We need to have more high-risk companies get started who care about these things.
And we need the green products, like the green steel, we need demand out there.
So as people are bringing those prices down, they get volume.
We've seen with electric cars, the right things are happening.
The prices are starting to come down.
You know, General Motors said by 2035,
they don't think they'll need to make gasoline cars.
So it says that extra cost where you pay a bit more,
you give up range.
Over the next 15 years, that green premium, I call it, will actually go all
the way down to zero in that category.
And that's amazing.
We just need to do that across the dozen or so categories by driving innovation faster than
it would normally take place.
You know, one of the things that I've always been struck by is how sometimes the
conversations are about what needs to be done, but then oftentimes that I've always been struck by is how sometimes the conversations are about what needs to be done but then oftentimes there is no buy-in because
nobody like sort of wants to do it and that's where I think like Elon Musk
has done a great job with Tesla. Yeah it's an electric car but most people
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Sadly, some green products like green cement, it's still just cement.
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enough on the hard stuff here.
Let's talk a little bit about the hard stuff, not just in terms of the products, but
about the people who are affected by the products.
How do we implement these ideas without discarding the lives that are attached to the old forms
of creating energy or food?
Well, the key is going to be having lots of new jobs. For example, for example, the electric network will have to get a lot bigger because it's
now powering the cars or heating and cooling your house.
So that's, you know, it's going to be three times bigger and building all those transmission
lines and power plants will be a big deal.
Now that's not to say that some communities that have been really focused on things like oil,
they will have a transition. It's a 30-year transition. We still will be using some oil in the decades ahead.
And so we have to put into the cost of this transition how we manage those communities that are affected
because right now there's almost a temptation to deny the
problem altogether because if you feel like you're going to be left out of the solution,
you just want denial. There's also no denying that developing nations are most affected by climate
change. So you have you know farmers in India, farmers in sub-Saharan Africa where
their climates have changed to the point where they can't even grow the food. Is there ever an idea for like a a the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thi. their their their their ates have changed to the point where they can't even grow the food.
Is there ever an idea for like a penalty then
on the countries that do emit?
Because if you're doing a thing, like,
let's say just on a local level,
if I started a fire in my house
and the smoke blacked up all of your windows next door.
They would someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone. Someone would say like, oh, I have to somehow make up for that. Will there ever be a system like that where the biggest polluters enter into a deal and say
we will sort of pay or amend what we're doing to poorer countries?
Yes, we owe it to these countries to not only mitigate that,
is get the emissions down to zero, and that's that huge innovation.
But also we need to help them because it will warm up 2 degrees centigrade and that really
will hurt all their crops, it will raise the sea level.
We owe it to them to help with adaptation.
That includes a generation of seeds that actually can grow in the hotter temperatures and
that are more productive so they don't end up with malnutrition and we'll face mass
migration from those equatorial areas,
you know, where the poorest, they are farmers.
And so the weather hurts them way more than it does us, although wildfires, sea level rise,
you know, even we're going to find it tough to go outdoors a lot of the summer.
When we look at the world of climate change, there's no denying that, you know,
it's filled with the world of superstars.
You know, you talk to anyone and you say,
who's getting involved in climate change?
And it's some of the biggest names.
You know, it's Bill Gates, it's Jeff Bezos,
it's Michael Bloomberg, it's Leonardo DiCaprio,
et cetera. The one thing that becomes a, I think, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, tha, I, tha, tha, thi, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the the the the the the the the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the world, the world, the world, the world, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi, thi, thi, thi, you too, you're, you're, you're, you know, you're, you're, you to talk, you're, you're, you know, you to talk, you to the the the the the th becomes a, I think a paradox though is when people say, these people are telling
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How do you deal with that discrepancy on the paradox of existing in that way?
Yeah, so I'm kind of a strange messenger because, you know, my primary focus is global health and that is why, you know, I talked about the risk of a pandemic
and what we should do in advance.
You know, climate change I only came to
because I was traveling an African scene,
how these farmers are already being hurt by it.
My personal emissions, I'm now paying over $7 million a year,
to buy aviation biofuel and to pay for carbon capture
and to, you know, put electric heat pumps into low-cost
housing instead of natural gas.
So yes, we all need to not only fund getting rid of our footprint, but also use that to fund
these products that will eventually be part of the solution. And so this catalytic
investing in green products, you know, the rich have to be the first to show
they're going to do it. Yeah, you've already put in, I think it's over two
billion dollars into some of these ideas now to try and capture that carbon. And as we
wrap up, I would love for you to explain, and this is something you've talked about, and it was nice to read elements of this in the book.
You argue that the pandemic and climate change are not dissimilar.
Please explain how.
Yeah, so we count on our governments to think ahead about earthquakes, so they do building codes or, you know, about wars so they fund a defense department that does war games.
In these two cases, the pandemic and the climate change, our governments aren't bringing
in the best experts and figuring out an efficient way to avoid this disaster.
Because it didn't seem like a pandemic would come overnight.
No politician felt like they'd get in trouble. And, you know, so didn't seem like a pandemic would come overnight, no politician felt like
they'd get in trouble.
And so the U.S. looked bad.
Some countries that were more ready, like Australia, avoided most of those deaths.
So because climate change is far worse, and once you get into it and the natural ecosystems
are dying,
you can't just invent one thing like a vaccine and get out of it.
This should tell us, wow, let's start now to get ready,
and government is going to have to lead the way.
Well, it's a really ominous warning, but one that, I guess, if you're an optimist,
you go, like, at least there is a game plan because we're not dealing with all of it right now. Bill Gates, thank you so much
for joining us on the show. Good luck with your endeavors and we hope to see you again.
Great to talk to you. Don't forget, Bill's new book How to Avoid a Climate Disaster
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