The Daily Show: Ears Edition - The School Reopening Debate | Hillary Clinton

Episode Date: July 14, 2020

President Trump finally wears a mask in public, Michael Kosta weighs in on safely reopening schools, and Hillary Clinton discusses the Hulu docuseries "Hillary" and more. Learn more about your ad-cho...ices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Comedy Central. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at, that's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News,
Starting point is 00:00:27 listen to 60 Minutes, a second look, starting September 17th, wherever you get your podcasts. Hey everybody, welcome to the daily social distancing show. I'm Trevor Noah, and we're back from our July 4th break. I really hope that you've stayed healthy during this crazy time. As for myself, I spent most of the break stabbing things around my apartment just to see if it was actually cake. And the good news is my roommate was not cake. The bad news is I need a new
Starting point is 00:00:58 roommate. Either way on tonight's show, Donald Trump goes off to the true enemy in this coronavirus pandemic, Dr. Fauchi. Michael, to solve, to solve, to solve, to solve, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, and thi, thi, and thi, thi, true, and I'm thi, their, thi, and I'm, and I'm thi, and I'm thi, and I'm thi, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I'm, and I'm, and I'm truethe true enemy in this coronavirus pandemic, Dr. Fauchi. Michael Costa solves the dilemma over reopening schools, and Hillary Clinton drops by to make America feel bad about its choices. So let's do this, people. Welcome to the Daily Social Distancing Show. From Trevor's couch in New York City to your couch somewhere in the world. This is the daily social distancing show with Trevor Noah. Let's kick things off with the Black Lives Matter movements. Although you may be hearing less about them than you used to, protests are still going on around the country, in part because police brutality is still going on around the country.
Starting point is 00:01:44 And the ripple effects of this movement are reaching all aspects of American life, including a long-awaited change in the NFL. The Washington Redskins have officially retired the Redskins name and Indian head logo after 87 years. The football team announced the change following recent pressure from sponsors and decades of criticism that they are offensive to Native Americans. They are now working on a new name and design, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which th, thi, the thi, the their, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, all all all all all all thi, all thi, all thi, all all all all their, all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, all, all, all decades of criticism that they are offensive to Native Americans. They are now working on a new name and design, which might take some time due to trademark issues.
Starting point is 00:02:11 Warriors, red wolves and red tails are just some of the most popular choices among fans on social media. Major retailers have already removed Redskins apparel from store shelves and websites. Yes, after decades of resisting, the Washington Redskins have finally decided to change their name. And look, this is a step in the right direction, but it almost feels like dismantling structural racism is so difficult that instead, America is just crossing off the easier items on its racism to-do list.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Okay, next item, we've got to create an equal and just society. Hmm. All right, let's skip that one.. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the thii. the name. the name. the name the name the name the name the name the name the name the name the name the name the name the name the name the name the name the name the name the name the the the the to-do list. Okay, next item we got to create an equal and just society. Hmm. All all right, let's skip that one. What about changing the name of a football team and canceling Aunt Jemima? Yeah, that should hold us over for a year. So the old name is officially gone. But now the team is searching for a new name and I'll be honest. I think when it comes to a new name they got to keep it simple. I'll be honest, I think when it comes to a new name, they've got to keep it simple, keep it safe. Change the name to the Washington Washington's. Yeah, it's catchy, it's easy to remember.
Starting point is 00:03:11 And most importantly, it honors one of the greatest Americans of all time. My man. In other news, former Trump campaign advisor and man genetically designed to look guilty, Roger Stone is back in the headlines. Stone was about to begin a 40-month prison sentence for witness tampering, lying to Congress, and obstruction of justice in connection with the Mala investigation. But it turns out, it really does pay to have friends in high places.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Tonight the breaking news, the president commuted the prison sentence for his friend of several decades, Roger Stone. Just days before Stone was set to begin his more than three-year prison sentence, the president, the president making his longtime friend and ally a free man. The 67-year-old promised to never turn on the president. This is what Stone told Howard Feyman. He knows I was under enormous pressure to turn on him. It would have eased my situation considerably, but I didn't.
Starting point is 00:04:07 Republican Senator Mitt Romney, accusing the president of unprecedented historic corruption. This is bribery, pure and simple. A quid pro quo. The president, through this commutation, is basically saying, if you lie for me, if you cover up for me, if you have my back, then I will make sure that you get a get out of jail free card. Oh wow, I think Trump is going to have to update his campaign chance after this. Lock him up, unless he's my friend, then set him free. Seriously, I love how Trump is the law and order president when it comes to his enemies
Starting point is 00:04:42 or marginalized groups being sent to jail. But as soon as it's one of his friends, he becomes a prison abolitionist. The prison system in this country is out of control. We gotta fix it. Roger get out, all right, problem solved. Back to the way it was. And we all see what happened here, right? Roger Stone to protect Donald Trump. And in exchange, Trump rewarded Stone by
Starting point is 00:05:05 getting him out of prison. And what's even more amazing is that Stone straight up said he deserved a get-out-of-jail-free card because he could have turned on Trump, but he didn't. Like, is there any interaction Trump has with another person that isn't a quid pro quo? Dad, can you pass the salt? I pass the salt. You disappear. And once again, Donald Trump has exposed the flaws in America's system.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Because you can be mad at Trump. But America is the one who gave him the option in the first place. If you have the power to release any of your friends, and you don't do it, then you're a bitch-ass friend. I'll do it I've released all my friends. You know who should be angriest about this? The jurors. Think about it you are on a jury. You have to sit there for months listening to all the testimony, the deliberating, the sitting in that tiny room eating spending your time in the courtroom kissing Trump's ass. That's what court should be.
Starting point is 00:06:06 They should devolve into that. Instead of a jury, it should just be Trump in a chair with these back-turned. And if your compliments are good enough, he just smashes the button and you're free. Moving on to coronavirus. The only thing in 2020, that still hasn't been canceled canceled canceled canceled canceled canceled canceled canceled canceled canceled canceled canceled canceled canceled canceled canceled canceled canceled canceled. that. Yesterday, New York City recorded zero COVID-19 deaths for the first time since March. And that's truly amazing news, guys. Because if this continues, then hopefully New Yorkers can get back to dying from their usual things, you know?
Starting point is 00:06:37 Like being kicked in the throat by a subway dancer. But unfortunately, across the rest of America, things are worse than ever. Breaking news tonight, staggering numbers out of Florida, more than 15,000 COVID cases confirmed in just one day. In Miami-Dade, hospitals are at 94% I.C. With the mayor confirming six are now full. If the Sunshine State were its own country, it would rank fourth highest in the world for new COVID cases. In Texas, confirmed cases continue to climb. Nearly 6,000 reported today.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Hard-hit Michigan now seeing an uptick in cases after hundreds attended July 4th lake parties. And we've seen the stunning images of testing lines stretching for miles. Thousands waiting weeks for results in Arizona. some labs facing a 30-day backlog. Thirteen states are reporting testing problems. You know, I don't know what's worse, honestly. The fact that so many states reopened too early, or the fact that they are now facing problems that should have been solved months ago. Surging cases, PPE shortages, testing backlogs.
Starting point is 00:07:41 These are all the same problems America was dealing with back in March. So clearly, other than coronavirus getting a summer tan, nothing has changed. And these states saw what happened in New York. They saw it happen here months ago. They had to prepare. And they're still not handling it right? You know in a horror movie when the teenagers run upstairs away? This is like if they didn't even run. They just stayed on the couch on the couch on the couch on the couch on the couch on the couch, the couch, the couch, the ccoccoccocc, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tooc, tooc, te, te, te, te, te, te, te, te, te, tha, tha, tha, than, than, than, than, than, than, tha, tha, tha if they didn't even run. They just stayed on the couch watching TV. Oh, where's Darren? He's dead. All right, what's the next episode? I mean, at this rate, America is going to solve its testing issues eight or nine months after we have a vaccine.
Starting point is 00:08:11 And while hospitals are filling up and more people are getting sick, Mickey Mouse has decided that the show must go on. Disney welcomed. The strict safety and social distancing protocols. Visitors are required to wear masks and they'll hear this message. For the health and safety of everyone, please wear a face covering. Wash your hands often and thoroughly. Cover your mouth and nose when coughing and sneezing and maintain physical distancing. Thank you for your cooperation. Basically what we're saying is why are you at Disney World dumbass? It's crazy that we're in the middle of a pandemic that's killed
Starting point is 00:08:52 hundreds of thousands of people and there are still folks out there like life isn't scary enough let's let's go on a roller coaster. I mean look when my time comes my time comes but I'm gonna do all I can to make sure that my obituary doesn't say cause of death, Space Mountain. And this isn't just dangerous for the visitors. Think about the risk. This poses to all of the Disney employees. I mean, the safest job they have right now is the one inside a 200-degree rat costume. Like, what dad is so cheap that this vacation is worth the risk? Honey, it's 15% off Disney tickets. But Harry, isn't there a pandemic right now?
Starting point is 00:09:30 15% off. You go get the kids, I'm gonna load the van. Now, Mickey Mouse isn't the only cartoon character people have been imploring to take the coronavirus a little more seriously. Because for months now, people have also been begging President Trump to at least lead by example and wear a mask in public. And for months, he has flat-out refused. But then, this happened.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Breaking news tonight, a huge shift for President Trump wearing a mask in public. Six months into the coronavirus pandemic and President Trump finally wore a mask for the first time in public. He did so while visiting Walter Reed Medical Center this weekend. This image again about the president wearing the mask will stick out to a lot of people in the days and weeks ahead. Okay, guys, I don't know about you. But I think this is the day Donald Trump finally became president.
Starting point is 00:10:21 And look, I'm glad that Trump finally put a mask on, but it's got to be confusing for his supporters who have been mocking face masks this whole time. I mean, to them, this must be like seeing Trump at a Black Lives Matter march with AOC. And I know that part of the reason Trump resisted wearing a mask for so long is because he's very self-conscious about his image. That's why he didn't want to do it. So let me go on record record, the, the, the, to, the, to, to, the, to, the, the, the, the, to, the, to, the, the, th. And, t. And, to, t. to, to, to, tr. tr. tr. tr. true, the, true, tru, true, tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr, tr, tr, to, to, to, to, to, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. t. t. tt t t tru. tru. tru. tru. tru. tru. tru. tru. tru. tru. tru. tr as saying, President Trump, don't listen to any of the haters out there who's saying you look like diabetic Bain or shredder from the Ninja Turtles if all he shredded was cheese. You look great. So please keep wearing that mask. So the good news is that tru-fiaull the to be catching up to the reality of the pandemic. But you know truuuuuuuuuuuuuuu. tru. tru. tru. tru. tru. tru. tru tru tru tru tru tru tru tru tru tru tru. tru tru. tru- tru- tru- tru- tru-in-in-in tru-in tr-in th. th. th. th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the is the is the. the. the the the the the the th. the thi the thi thi thi thi tru. tru. tru. tru. tru. tru. tru. tru. tru. tru. tru. tru. tru. tru. tru. tru. tru. tru. tru. tru. tru. up to the reality of the pandemic. But you know Trump, now he has to pretend that he was doing a great job the whole time, which means he has to find someone else to blame for doing a bad job, and you'll never guess who he picked.
Starting point is 00:11:16 The president and the nation's top infectious disease doctor are not on speaking terms. Now the White House is trying to discredit Dr. Anthony Fauci. Fauci now says he hasn't briefed the president in over two months and hasn't actually seen him at the White House since June 2nd. In a stunning development, some administration officials are treating him like a political rival. Releasing what they say is a list of questionable statements by Dr. Fauci, even though many of them were taken out of context or widely accepted in the.. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the pre.. the pre. the pre. the pre. the pre. the pre-a the pre-a thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi thi thi thi-pi thi. thi. thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi thi thi thi thi. thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. te. te. te. te. te. tee. teea. to. to. teeeeeeea. tea. teea. tea. te. te. te. Fauci, even though many of them were taken out of context or widely accepted in the early days of the pandemic. Last night, Mr. Trump fueled the apparent feud between him and Dr. Anthony Fauci.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Dr. Fauci is a nice man, but he's made a lot of mistakes. Unlike me, who's not a very nice man, but has never made any mblakes. This is positively insane. Donald Trump is spending more time trying to defeat Dr. Fauci than defeating the coronavirus. Can you imagine doing actual opposition research about someone on your own team?
Starting point is 00:12:16 It's like if Ben put out a press release saying that Jerry personally sneezes in every pint of chunky monkey, you both lose. And don't get a twisted. I'm not saying that Fauci never got anything wrong. I'm not saying that. Every expert in the world got something wrong when COVID-19 first emerged, because it was something they'd never seen before,
Starting point is 00:12:32 hence novel. It's like when you first start baking bread, you don't know how to prepare yeast properly. But then after three store. I mean, we're four months into a global pandemic, and the leader of the free world just started wearing a mask. This is the same person who was thinking about bleaching his lungs, and now he's trying to point his tiny fingers at Dr. Fauci? But if you're going to to go after someone, at least give them the press. If you're going to go after someone,
Starting point is 00:13:06 at least give them the respect to be up front about it, like this. As the coronavirus pandemic rages and cases rise uncontrollably, there's one man to blame. Anthony Fauci. Fouchy says he's a doctor, but what kind of doctor doesn't wear a stethoscope? And if he's really a doctor, why is he of doctor doesn't wear a stethoscope? And if he's really a doctor, why is he so short? We don't need leaders who adjust their assessment when they get new information?
Starting point is 00:13:33 We need leaders who stick with their gut assessment, despite new information. That's going to sort of disappear. If Fauci cares so much about saving lives, why didn't he do anything about the Spanish flu? And if he loves Americans so much, why is he palling around with suspicious immigrants? Anthony Fauci, definitely the only person to blame for this whole situation. Oh boy, I think Trump is going to do pretty well against Dr. Fauci in November. When we come back, we'll figure out how schools in America are going to reopen.
Starting point is 00:14:08 Yeah, we solved it. Stick around. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at.
Starting point is 00:14:32 That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes, a second look, starting September 17th, wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show. Thanks to the coronavirus. The big debate right now is, well, two things. One is elbow kissing considered cheating. And two, how do you reopen schools? How can you get kids learning again, but keep them and their teachers safe.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Because kids may not be badly affected by coronavirus, but teachers easily could be. And a lot of people don't know this, but teachers have families of their own. Yeah, it's true. Mrs. Nicholson didn't sleep in the classroom at night. She had a house and everything. So because of this, schools are trying to come up with different solutions. Some of them have decided to have outdoor classes, but that means that all the pale kids are going to fail. New York City has announced it will only have kids come into class one to three days a week, like an ear-nosed throat specialist. But then the question is, what are parents supposed to do on the days when their kids are at home. And their th. And their their th. And, and their th. And, and their, and th. And, th. And, th. their, th. th. th. th. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, tho, the, the, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thr-s, thr-s, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, the thean, the, the, the when their kids are at home. And some schools in America have decided that they're just gonna throw kids into the classroom
Starting point is 00:15:46 and hope for the best. Sort of like the hunger games, except instead of money, you get no grandparents. Now, President Trump has demanded that all schools open up as normal. And he's even threatening to withhold federal funding from schools that refuse. So just the same page.
Starting point is 00:16:05 He won't touch the police, but he'll defund the shit out of schools. Like let's agree on that. Everybody wants schools to reopen. The question is, can it be done safely? And the problem is it doesn't seem like the federal government knows how to make that happen. For instance, here's Betsy the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th make that happen. For instance, here's Betsy DeVos, Secretary of Education and your new stepmom who immediately sent you to Fat Camp, trying to explain the administration's plan. What are experts telling you about the appropriate level of transmission for a school before
Starting point is 00:16:39 it has to shut down? Well, I know that that's an area that the CDC is helping to provide further insight into. I can't, as a non-physician or a non-medical expert, tell you precisely what to do in the case of one child in a classroom or five child children in a classroom to be able to... So just to be clear, are you saying that areas where there is a flare-up, that schools should revert to remote learning? I'm saying that schools should have plans. Like, I truly don't understand how there's bailouts for airlines, free money for the banks, but when it comes to schools, they're just like, here's a can of Lysol, good luck.
Starting point is 00:17:22 I'll be honest. At this point, I don't th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho to to to thi thate, I don't to to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be thoes th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to to to to to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be toe. toe. toe. toe. toea. toea. toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooe. good luck. I'll be honest. At this point, I don't understand why anybody is a teacher in America. You're underpaid, you're overworked, you have to deal with school shootings, and now this? Like, I don't know, maybe Betsy's master plan is to just hope that the school shooters kill the coronavirus and 't just open schools because other countries have open schools. Those countries got coronavirus under control first. One comes because of the other. It's like when I was growing up, I really wanted Jordans. I really wanted Jordans. But I didn't realize that all my friends had Jordans because their parents had disposable
Starting point is 00:18:02 income. I didn't understand the link. So that didn't stop me from trying to have what my friends had. And you know what happened? I kept on pushing and pushing. And for my birthday, I got a pair of Gordons, the official shoe of Gordon Ramsey. For more on how to reopen schools, I'm joined by a man who's been repeatedly fired as a substitute teacher, Michael Costa. What's going on, Costa? It's great, Trevor. It took me a month, but I finally got rid of all those fireworks I had later on.
Starting point is 00:18:29 So... Wait, that was you? Dude, I couldn't sleep. You know what, we're going to talk about this later, but right now, the big issue in America is how can the country reopen schools safely? Yeah, well, the the the, is that I have a solution that works out for everybody. Okay, so check this out. One, we know parents want their kids out of the house, and two, we know children are less susceptible to corona.
Starting point is 00:18:56 So why don't we solve both problems at once. Let's send children to work at meat packing plants. Think about it. The kids stay busy and we get all the chicken nuggets that God blessed us with. You're welcome. Hold on, Costa. You want children to spend the school day meatpacking. So you're trying to bring back child labor?
Starting point is 00:19:22 Please, Trevor, child labor never went away. We just outsourced it to different countries. I want to bring those American jobs back home. Respectfully, I don't think you can just eliminate the school system. Why not? You only go to school so you can get a job. I'm cutting out the middleman. Think about all the successful people that dropped out of school. Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Brad
Starting point is 00:19:45 Pitt. Yeah, but they dropped out of college, not second grade. Can you imagine how much more successful they would be if they just would have dropped out earlier? But the kids won't be learning anything. That's not true. You can learn everything that you learned in school at a meat packing plant. Finding out where the tee bone is, that's biology. Learning how much antibiotics a cow can take before it dies, that's chemistry. How about some math problems? If Timmy is boxing ground beef at 10 boxes a minute, how many warnings does it take before we fire slow-ass Timmy? How many? None? Because I caught Timmy talking to a union organizer. You're fired, Timmy. Pack up your shit.
Starting point is 00:20:28 Bye. Okay, Costa, not only is this idea despicable, it will never work. On the contrary, Trevor. I'm running a pilot program right now. I got my neighbor's kids, packing meat as we speak. And I got so much meat, I don't even know what to do with it. Oh man, hold on. I gotta go. It sounds like Mason got us overall stuck in the meat grinder again.
Starting point is 00:20:51 I'm gonna call you back. Mason, you're okay. Just breathe, buddy. Michael Costa, everybody, I'm definitely reporting him. All right, when we come back, I'll be talking to the winner of the 2016 popular vote, Hillary Clinton. Don't go away. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it.
Starting point is 00:21:14 This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. But that's all about to change. Like, none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes, a second look,
Starting point is 00:21:34 starting September 17th, wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show. Earlier today, I spoke with former Secretary of State and 2016 Democratic presidential nominee, Hillary Rodham Clinton. We discussed the pandemic, the upcoming election, and the Hulu docu series about her life called Hillary. Check it out. Secretary Clinton, welcome to the Daily Social Distancing Show.
Starting point is 00:22:00 Well, I'm social distancing in my house and it's great to talk to you today too. Genuinely, a lot of the time I find myself wondering, just like what you're doing and where you are as a human being. Because I know if I was in your position, I would spend most of my time tweeting, I told you so, and then I would you do? I genuinely would like to know, what do you do? Oh, well, you know, before the lockdown, I was doing all of that. I mean, you know, there's probably been a little. You should go find it or maybe I'll help you.
Starting point is 00:22:35 You know, for the last, what, how many months? I've been at home since March, like everybody else. And I've done a lot of walking in the woods, one of my favorite things to do. I've done a lot of reading and some writing. This was the big year that we were going to be celebrating the 100th anniversary of American women, finally getting the right to vote. And I'm working to support the groups that I help support through my organization
Starting point is 00:23:03 onward together. And then I get to spend the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their the biggest their their their their their their their their their their their their. thiia. thia. thia. I'm thia. I'm thia' thiolou. I's thi. th. I's th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. today. te. te. organization onward together. And then I get to spend time with my grandchildren, which I have to say is the biggest silver lining, Trevor, that you can imagine during this very difficult time. So, you know, we're, I don't know what I do all day, but I'm exhausted every night. I feel like that's everyone in Corona. We're all tired and we don't really know why. I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you tho tho tho tho that that thathea thathea. thathea. tho thathea. thathea. thathea. thathea. th. that's that's thathea. thathea. thathea. thathea. th. th. th. thathea. thathea. that is thathea. thathea. that is that is that is that is that that that that that that that that that that that that that. that that that thiiiii. t. to. thauuuu. thau. thau. thau. thau. thaua. thaua. thau.. We're all tired and we don't really know why. I do know that you've been really active in having your voice heard. One of the biggest things you've been passionate about is voting.
Starting point is 00:23:31 It seems like America's on an ominous path to a November date when there's going to be a lot of questions in and around the election. Donald Trump is vehemently against mail-in voting. What do you make of this and what do you the the the be to getting people the easiest access to costing their votes? Republicans have two prongs to their strategy to try to win. The first is try to prevent as many people who they think won't vote for them from voting. So, you know, make the lines really long where young people vote or African Americans vote or Hispanics vote, try to make
Starting point is 00:24:08 vote by mail as difficult as possible, claim it's fraudulent when indeed it's not. In fact, that's how Donald Trump votes and everybody who knows about vote by mail understands that. And so I've been working with a group called Democracy Docket led by the lawyer Markas, to help support the lawsuits that are being brought around the country, just to make the vote available, you know, to make it clear that, look, let's have a fair election. And that means let as many people who are eligible citizens to go vote. Are you at all concerned about irregularities in voting or fraud? I mean for instance we saw the case in New Jersey I think it
Starting point is 00:24:51 was a few weeks ago now where ironically it was some a councilman who I think was was changing the votes for in Republicans favor. Is there a part of you that that is worried that Donald Trump would be able to use any of those stories to try and undermine the entire election and say, you see, there's that one and there's that one, I don't think we should trust this election at all because it says that I've lost? Well, I think it is a fair point to raise going to go quietly or not. And we have to be ready for that.
Starting point is 00:25:26 But there have been so many academic studies and other analyses which point out that it's just an inaccurate fraudulent claim. There isn't that problem. All the games that are played and all of the photo IDs and any kind of restriction that can be imposed to try to keep the vote down in places that aren't going to vote for Republicans, that's the real danger to the integrity of our election. That combined with misinformation and disinformation and all of the online shenanigans that we saw in 2016. So I'm, look, I want a fair election. If people get to vote and they, for whatever
Starting point is 00:26:07 reason, vote for Donald Trump, okay, we'll accept it. Not happily. But I don't think that's what will happen, because I think the more people who can actually get to the polls, whether by mail or in person and get their votes counted, then we are going to have the kind of election we should have. And then it'll be a win both in the popular vote and in the electoral college. You are the star and subject of a docu series on Hulu. And for many people, I think maybe even myself included, I saw a side of you that was refreshing and different
Starting point is 00:26:50 and for lack of a better term, you had a swag about you that not many people knew you had. You know, do you feel more free or is that just captured well in the documentary? Is there a part of you that goes like, you know what, I'm free, screw, screw whatever? Yeah, there is. There's really a big part of that. And the documentary, you know, I was interviewed for 35 hours. And I, yeah, and my feeling once I agreed to do the project was, you know, this is it. I'm not running for anything.
Starting point is 00:27:21 I'm going to just, you know, say it like it is the best I can. And a lot of people have said what you've said. My gosh, I never saw that side of her or whatever. And so I know that the pressures of being in public life and being misunderstood and being kind of subjected to the attacks and the criticism. I know that it probably made me a little less available and open and probably a little hunkered down, if you will. And my life is a little bit like a Roarshock test where, you know,
Starting point is 00:27:58 people who are comfortable with women seeking and holding power, being outspoken, you know, see it and think, oh my gosh, well yeah, of course. And then people who aren't, maybe they'll, you know, begin to think differently about that. Many women have said that, they've said, Hillary Clinton got further and did more than I ever dared to think was possible. If there's another Hillary out there who's running and beginning her journey, what would you warn her about or tell her to try and look out for, to just give her a little advantage in a world where she desperately needs it?
Starting point is 00:28:31 You will be criticized no matter what you do. And so take criticism seriously because sometimes your critics actually can teach you something. But don't take it personally. Don't let it eat away at you. Don't let it knock you down and keep you down. The women who I admire that, you know, Chelsea and I wrote that book about gutsy women are women who are not just in it for themselves.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Whatever it is that motivates you, have something bigger than yourself that is going to get you up in the morning and keep going because it can be brutal out there. It can be incredibly difficult. You can be called a nasty woman for heaven's sakes. So what you've got to do is just believe, not just in yourself alone, but in what you're trying to do for others. And that will keep you motivated no matter what. Don't go away because when we come back we'll have more of this interview with th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi- thi- thi- thi- thi- thi- thi- thi thi thi thi the the the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the the the the the thi thi thi thi thi thi thi to be to be to be to be toe toe toe toe a toe a toe a toe a thiiiiiiii. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi to do for others and that will keep you motivated no matter what. Don't go away because when we come back we'll have more of this interview with Secretary Clinton. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television.
Starting point is 00:29:41 Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes, a second look, starting September 17, wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show. Here is more of my interview with Hillary Clinton.
Starting point is 00:30:08 Let me ask you this question is, are you now ready to wear a mask now that Donald Trump has finally put one on? I'm assuming you just haven't been wearing one waiting for this moment. Yeah, no, I mean, I've actually been wearing one. And I think, you know, better late than never, I guess.
Starting point is 00:30:27 My daughter had a great tweet, which I retweeted where she said, look, I'm not being sarcastic. If he would sell masks with his face on him and go ahead and make the money, at least it would send a good message. So now that he has been seen once in a mask, maybe those people who still, you know, take their cues from him will similarly start wearing masks because we're in a desperate situation again, Trevor. I mean, look, I mean, Florida, if it were an individual country right now, would have the fourth highest rate in the world after the overall
Starting point is 00:31:02 U.S. and Brazil, India. So you know we are a long way from getting this under control. But there's no denying that every country once they got an idea of what the coronavirus was handled it differently. When you look back at the way America handled it once people understood how severe this was, where do you think President tru? Where do you think a good president would have done something differently? Well I think, I think you th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th think, think, think, the think, think, the their, their, thi, their, thi their, their, their, their their their thi their thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th th th th th, th, th, th, th, th, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thi theeeei thei thei. thei. theiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. their their their thethink President Trump went wrong or where do you think a good president would have done something differently? Well, I think you have to start with President Trump's total hostility
Starting point is 00:31:36 towards science, evidence, facts, logic, reason. He is a showman. He is a reality TV star. He likes to try to bend reality to suit his own preferences. And he clearly started hearing about this back in January, through intelligence briefings that he either read or he didn't read. But even before that, he had disbanded the unit within the National Security Council that would try to get ahead of
Starting point is 00:32:06 and follow the development of pandemics abroad. He had really made it clear that he was more interested in the optics than the facts when the virus first hit and he kept saying you know we have 15 cases it'll be over soon. So you've got to begin and end with his total lack of leadership, his indifference toward what this virus has cost us, not only in lives, but in jobs and livelihoods. And now, of course, he doesn't want to hear from our leading infectious disease experts like Dr. Fauci. He doesn't want to hold the, even the sham of the meetings that he used to hold to hold to hold to hold to hold to hold to hold.. to hold to hold to hold to hold to hold to hold to hold to hold to hold to hold to hold to hold to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to his his to his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his to to to h. to h. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to told. told. to told. told, to toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. to't want to hold even the sham of the meetings that he used to hold to try to talk about it. He's hoping that it either goes away
Starting point is 00:32:53 or it leaves our attention span so that he can get back to pretending to be president. You very rightfully call him a showman. I mean, that's something we all acknowledge. Donald Trump has an uncanny ability to put on a show and just really suck all of the attention that the media wants to give him. There has to be a part of you that, you know, I guess is a little angry at that,
Starting point is 00:33:18 because, I mean, when you're running for president, a lot of it in America specifically is about putting on the show. Do you sometimes wish there was a test that you'd have to write? Is there some, because you're sitting at home and you have so many of these answers and you've studied so hard, but really you got beaten by a showman who just knew how to win the ratings. How do you feel about that when you see what America's going through now? Well, it breaks my heart because I try to warn people during the campaign that he was not fit for the office, he wasn't prepared for the office, that his appeals to the basest instincts among us was really setting us up for even more divisiveness, and then
Starting point is 00:33:59 I saw it literally from the inauguration forward. I take no pleasure in that because look I want to root for America, I want to root for anybody who's our president. It's just hard to see what he's done to the office, his undermining of our institutions, his absolute disregard for the rule of law, and I think you're right that it is painful for me but I think for many Americans who expected better. Even people who voted for him expected him to rise to the job and increasingly that has become you know just
Starting point is 00:34:39 impossible to expect any longer. I have to ask you about Roger Stone. Help me understand. A, why do presidents or should presidents have the power to pardon anybody, especially someone who's related to them in a case? And secondly, what precedent could Trump be setting for America, slash, do you think it's going to be a precedent, where a president says, I will pardon anybody who protects me by not snitching?
Starting point is 00:35:08 Well, I think you just summed up why Roger Stone was pardoned. I mean, he basically threatened Trump. You know, he basically said, I sure don't want to go to jail and I sure have a lot more to say. Boy, I just wish there'd be somebody you could stop me from having to go to jail and guess what, you know, Trump intervened. This is an extension of the total disregard for the rule of law. The pardon power is supposed to be used for compassionate purposes to try to write wrongs, to try to make sure that people are not being punished unfairly or have been punished enough. And in this case, it's a continuation of the cover-up, because the one thing that Trump is
Starting point is 00:35:54 fearful of when it comes to his being president is that finally we will see how illegitimate his victory actually was. And how he was involved in the seeking of foreign help and then the utilization of it and how Roger Stone was critical to that. But you know, unless Trump is defeated at the polls in November, we will never really know everything there is to know about this really deep ongoing dismantling of institutions and undermining the rule of law and the original sin of the way that he actually won the election. So Roger Stone was in the middle of it all and that's why you know Trump had to cover it up.
Starting point is 00:36:44 Well, Secretary Clinton, thank you so much for had to cover it up. Well Secretary Clinton thank you so much for taking the time today. I hope you enjoy the gardening, your walks in the woods and hopefully you'll be back out in the streets saying I told you so soon than later. I'll look forward to that Trevor and stay healthy and stay safe yourself. We'll do. Thank you so much again for that Secretary Clinton. That's our show for tod thea thea thea thea thea th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th is th is th is th is thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi thi thi. thi the the the the the thoooooooooooooooo. to to to to to thi th's our show for tonight. But before we go, America is facing a nationwide poll worker shortage. And it's because most poll workers are over 60, and with COVID still in the air, they are understandably not showing up. But fewer poll workers means fewer polling stations are going to be open, and it means longer lines that not everybody can afford to stay and wait in, especially people of color in working-class areas. But the good news is, most poll working is paid and in some states you can be as
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