The Daily Show: Ears Edition - The Women of US Soccer

Episode Date: July 20, 2023

It's the start of the FIFA Women's World Cup! Daily Show correspondents Desi Lydic and Hasan Minhaj argue that the US Women's Soccer Team should get to over-celebrate and make as much money as the men...'s team. Plus, Women's World Cup champions, Abby Wambach and Megan Rapinoe, encourage female soccer players to fight for pay equity. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:48 But yesterday, the US showed there's at least one place. They can still kick ass. It was a day of record-setting domination on the world stage for the US women. As the Women's World Cup kicks off in France, the US women's soccer team is showing no mercy and making history. The defending U.S., it's three nothing, four nothing, six nothing, go, nine nothing, quick shot ten nothing US. There's the 11, shot, go!
Starting point is 00:01:15 The defending champions posting the tournament's largest margin of victory ever, shutting out Thailand 13 to nothing. Wow! 13 to nothing. Wow! 13 to nothing. That's not a soccer score. America basically won by a touchdown, a field goal, and a three points are combined. Like they were dominating so hard.
Starting point is 00:01:38 This was their goalie during the game. And it's crazy, because if you do a soccer in the world, you're like, this is madness. Americans were like, this is how soccer should be! I do feel a little bad, though, right? Because this is the worst thing to ever happen to a Thai soccer team. And yes, I'm including the one that got stuck in the cave. Yeah, because at least the cave.S. women's soccer team. But some people say it might have been a little too much winning.
Starting point is 00:02:10 A lot of controversy over how the women of Team USA celebrated over that record breaking win over Thailand. Critics say, the team showed poor sportsmanship by continuing to score, then celebrate. Some calling Team USA's behavior embarrassing, overboard and disrespectful. That target that they already had on their back as defending, their, their, to to their, to to to to their, to their, to their, to their, tooe, their, their, too, their, their, too, too, toe, toe, toe, their, their, their, their, their, the, the, the, the, the, and, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e. too. t embarrassing, overboard and disrespectful. That target that they already had on their back as defending champions, that just got a whole lot bigger. They have now painted themselves as villains and as bullies. Okay. I get what people are saying, right? They're saying that the U.S. beat this team so hard. They should have been more sensitive, not celebrating every single goal. I mean, at the same time, sometimes taking pitysysysysy the the the the the the the the the the the the U the U the the U thiiiiase the U is the U is the U is the U is the U is thiase thi, thi, thirty is thirty is thirty is thirty, thirty, thirty, thiou-aqq is that's that's that's that's that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that time, sometimes taking pity can be worse than celebrating.
Starting point is 00:02:45 You know, it's patronizing. Like, imagine you were in a rap battle, and you're losing, and then the other MC's like, and another thing. Wait, wait, are you okay? Oh, I totally crushed you with that line about your mama. Hey, I can talk if you Well, for more on this, we're joined by someone who's embarrassed America many times while overseas. Desilightic, everybody! Desi?
Starting point is 00:03:09 People are saying the U.S. women's soccer team was unsportsman-like. Do you agree? No, no, they were not being unsportsmen like Trevor. They were being American. Our slogan is America, fuck yeah. Right? Not America. Oh, sorry we won. We're the country that won a war two hundred years ago, and we're still shooting off fireworks to rub it in Britain's face.
Starting point is 00:03:41 So you're saying it's not arrogance. That's just how America rolls. Exactly. It's how we roll on the s. It's how we roll on the soccer field. It's how we roll at our daughter's piano recital. Well, she totally fucking won, by the way. Desi, I don't think you can win a piano recital. No, you do if all the other parents' cars get their tire slashed. Only Orchestra Night becomes Tiffany Knight. I love you, sweetie. You made Beethoven your bitch. Okay, you're a good mom, I guess, Desi.
Starting point is 00:04:09 But don't you feel even a little bad for Thailand's team? What? Thailand? No, this has nothing to do with them. Our women weren't playing against Thailand. They were playing against the patriarchy. That's what this game was really about. Well, last time I checked I the the the the theked theked the theked theked theked theked theked thiiiiiiiiiiiii, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tooo.. togy. ty. ty. ty. ty's only only only only only ty. ty. ty's only only only ty's ty. ty. ty. Well, last time I checked the patriarchy wasn't made up of 13 Thai women. No, no, no, no. I'm talking about this.
Starting point is 00:04:29 28 players are suing their employer, the U.S. Soccer Federation, alleging institutionalized gender discrimination. According to their lawsuit, the women's team earns just 38 percent of a male player for the same kind of work. The women scored more goals in one match than the men's team has scored in every World Cup appearance since 2006 combined. You see that? The women's soccer team is doing so much more and getting paid so much less than the men's team. It's like finding out that Tony Stark got paid less than Hawkeye. One's a superhero, the other's a dad who's into archery. Yesterday was about the women's team trying to prove their worth. They weren't just playing to win a game. They were playing to win a lawsuit.
Starting point is 00:05:15 And yeah, you know what, it sucks that Thailand had to get caught in the crossfire, but it's like I said to the parents at my kids' music school. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, tom, tom, tom, tom, tom, tom, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, tea, tea, tea, tha. So you're saying the women's team was just sending a message to US soccer? Yes and clearly that message was that they need to be paid more. Oh and I don't know, maybe US soccer should pay the men less. Maybe they then be motivated to actually qualify for their World Cup. Go! Go! Go! Go!
Starting point is 00:05:50 Go! Go! Go! Yes! Yes! I'm trying to be a good too. Let's talk about women's soccer players. They're the big stars in the States with all the money and the glory of the men.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Well, except for the money part, as Hassan Menage reports. Superstar athletes have the life. We're talking cars, jets, even their pet albino tigers get cars. But not all pro-athletes are happy with the big bucks. In fact, the women's soccer team is taking legal action because they want more. Players on the U.S. women's national soccer team say they're being discriminated against because they make less than members of the men's team. I filed a federal complaint against the U.S. Soccer Federation.
Starting point is 00:06:36 I sat down with three members of the U.S. women's soccer team to find out why they're not being greedy. We're just fighting for what's right. Our contributions to the Federation should be seen as equal to what the men have done. Fine, whatever. But you need to understand that the men made it to the round of 16 in the World Cup? Well, we've won three World Cups. Well, they are ranked 30th in the world. We're ranked number one. Um, they play with so much passion. We have four Olympic gold medals. Humble Braggs, okay. But how much less could their pay possibly be? If we win a match, we get $1,300. And then they get around $17,000. Whoa. If the men's team loses, they make $5,000. Five!
Starting point is 00:07:25 Geez! If you lose! Could you imagine having that much money? Can't really imagine it, because we don't get paid anything if we lose. Maybe that's why you guys don't lose? Silver lining. the kidding me. Why don't you guys just pick up second jobs?
Starting point is 00:07:43 Uber driving. After your guys' games, search pricing will definitely be high. Boom, your driving fans home at 1.5 maybe 2, 3X. I don't have time to go be an Uber driver. We put in our time to win gold medals for this team. While the US Soccer Federation has their own interpretation of the pay differences, the bottom line is the women want them to level the playing field. Oh, and they also want them to literally level the playing field. They're constantly forced to play on astroturf, even at the World Cup, something that the men's team has never had to do. They don't play a tour.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Others would argue that the women's soccer team should be grateful just to play. Like Gavin McGuinness. Sure he looks like an art school drop out with the Shin's cover band, but he has his own show and is a Fox News contributor. Women do earn less in America because they choose to. Yep, not surprisingly, he thinks the women's lawsuit is a waste of time. Men's soccer has been getting ten times the eyeballs. You know what? I'm going to let the ladies handle this one. Well, we actually broke the record record for the most watch watch. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, th. th. the. the. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, th. the th. the the the the the the the th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the. to to the. the. the. the. the. the. the record for the most watch soccer game in the history of America between men or women. You're playing a man's game by man's rules. This is the way it is in our world. You got to earn it.
Starting point is 00:08:52 No. We've brought in what, 17 million this past year. The men's soccer is the te. the federation this past year. U.S. men's soccer still gets a lot more enthusiasm. Now, why is that? Is that because men's soccer is more interesting, more exciting? Gavin, you're down to nothing. You know what, let me try to help you. Name three US men's soccer players.
Starting point is 00:09:13 Current, we have Bobby Daniels. Bobby Daniels. Okay, let's check the list. Nope, not a player. Ziggler Norris. And a guy we know that guy we know into everyone is a Junebug. Come on, man, if you're going to make up fake names, do better than Junebug. If lunatics like this are against the women, who's on their side? Billy Jean King? 100%.
Starting point is 00:09:35 I mean, she's done so much for women's sports. Who's that? Tennis star, Billy Jean King has long been campaigning for women's rights. Damn! Turns out Billy Jean is a badass tennis player, but also she paved the way for equal pay and tennis when she defeated Bobby Riggs in the 1973 Battle of the Sexes. Let me get this straight.
Starting point is 00:10:00 All you did was defeat a man and now you have equal pay in tennis. Problem solved. It wasn't easy-peasy, man. When I played Bobby Riggs, that was about social change. Our ratio of price money was about 8 to 1, and I think the women's soccer is 4 to 1. And I know what you're going to say. Progress. Improvement. Improvement's not enough. We're supposed to be so happy.
Starting point is 00:10:20 If if if if if if if if if if if. happy if we get one crumb oh thank you I'm so grateful. We deserve the cake the icing and the cherry on top too just like the boys. So let's put some cleats on you, you play the men and let's get them ladies paid. You're missing the point. Okay I will play the women. Do you honestly think you can keep up with the women soccer players seriously? We will do a battle of the sexes, BJK style because it the the the the th th th th th th th th th is th is th is th is th is th is then th. th. th. No th. No th. No thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the the thi thi thi the the the the the the the the the thi thi thi the boys the boys the boys the boys the boys the boys the boys the boys the boys the boys the boys the boys the boys the boys the boys the boys th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi the the the the the to the toe toe toe te tea toy. I tea tea the the the the the the the, seriously. We will do a battle of the sexes, BJK style, because it worked for tennis. No, we'd crush you. Bobby Riggs was a champion in his sport.
Starting point is 00:10:53 We didn't even know who you were until today. Um, I played two years of AIOIS when I was in the fourth year. And I have also won trophies for effort. This is definitely a different level than that that. that. that. that. that. that. that. th. thine, thine, thine, thine, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi to thin, thin, to thin, to to thin, to to thin, thin, to thin, the thin, the the the thi thi thi th I was in the fourth year. And I have also won trophies for effort. This is definitely a different level than that. Okay, fine. So the battle of the sexes is a bad idea. What else can we do? People have to get to know us. So we need to really get behind women, get behind them with money,
Starting point is 00:11:17 the thoads. A thiiiiiiii the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, th. th. thi, th. thi, th. thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thas. So, thaee, thauu. So, thah. So, thaui. So, thauiiiiiiiii. So, thaui. You can defy the odds. The odds. I became one of the best players in the world at the age of 17. You can be great. I scored a game-winning PK and a World Cup. You can make history. We won three World Cups and four Olympic gold medals. You can aspire to be less than.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Wait, what did you say? You can be just as good as any other person as long as that person doesn't have a penis. Are you kidding me? And for all that hard work you can make four times less than a man. I don't think so. You can treat us equally. You can give us grass to pay us. You can pay us what we deserve. Just do it. Please do Does f- do it. Please do it. Hey everybody, John Stewart here.
Starting point is 00:12:11 I am here to tell you about my new podcast, the weekly show coming out every Thursday. We're going to be talking about the election, earnings calls. What are they talking about on these earnings calls? We're going to be talking about ingredienting about ingredient ingredient ingredient ingredient ingredient ingredient ingredient ingredient ingredient ingredient ingredient ingredient ingredient ingredient ingredient ingredient ingredient ingredient ingredient ingredient ingredient ingredient ingredient ingredient ingredient ingredient ingredient ingredient ingredient ingredient ingredient ingredient ingredient ingredient ingredient ingredient ingredient ingredient the ingredient to to to the ingredient to to to to the ingredient to to to the ingredients, to to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to to, to, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the the, the the the thea. the the thea. the thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. the. the. thing about on these earnings calls? We're going to be talking about ingredient to bread ratio on sandwiches. I know you have a lot of options as far as podcasts go, but how many of them come out on Thursday. Listen to the weekly show with John Stewart wherever you get your podcast. My guest tonight is a two-time Olympic gold medalist and FIFA Women's World Cup champion.
Starting point is 00:12:51 She's also an activist and best-selling author whose latest book is called Wolfpack, How to Come Together, unleash our power and change the game. Please welcome, Abby Womback. Come on back. Wow. All for you. All for you. Thank you. Thank you. to the show. to the show. You have an amazing audience. You pay them well.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Are you kidding? Yeah. Yes, they will be receiving that money I promise them. Thank you. Welcome to the show. Thank you. to the show. Thank you. audience you pay them well. Yes they will be receiving that money I promised
Starting point is 00:13:26 them. Welcome to the show. Thank you. And congratulations on the book. Let's talk about the book because it really speaks about everything that you've done in your life and everything that we deal with. Many people know you as a really successful soccer player who in many ways led the US women's soccer team to to some of its greatest victories victories. You know yourer in the World Cup against Brazil is one of the most famous ones. But the conversations in this book speak about many of the conversations that people are still having today about women's soccer in the US and that is why is the women's team not getting paid what they're owed? In other words equal pay for the work that they're they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are their their. their. their. their. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. their. thi. thi. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. te. tttttttttttttttttttte. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. today. te. today. today. today. today. te's team not getting paid what they are owed? In other words, equal pay for the work that they're doing.
Starting point is 00:14:07 It's insane. You know, I really feel like this is a true discrimination lawsuit that they've just filed against US soccer, and I'm proud to be supporting them. But here's the thing, the big argument that I hear is that the men's team brings in more money. So of course, that's why they should deserve to make more money, but that's just not true. In 2015, the women's team brought in $6.6 million, and the men's team only brought in two. If you look at the book, it's based on a commencement speech that you gave that book reminds me of what you said in that speech,
Starting point is 00:14:46 and that was when you were looking at yourself on a stage at the SPs, it was yourself, and it was Kobe Bryant, and it was Peyton Manning. And you were all on the stage being honored as legends in your fields. And you walked off that stage and you had a very specific thought, and that thought was... Wow, all three of us are walking into very different retirements. On stage I was feeling this immense amount of gratitude, like, wow, we women had finally made it, you know? And what I realized when I walked off stage is that's like basically the emotion that
Starting point is 00:15:16 women are granted to feel when they are given an award, this idea of just being grateful. So for me, writing this book, and trying to unpack unpack some of these moments in my life that taught me things, I mean, that night is when I dedicated, and I promised myself that I would dedicate myself for the rest of my life to fighting for equality, whether it be equal pay, in my sport and for my team, but also for every women and every industry. Because this is a fight that is a fight And it's not necessary just because women deserve it. It's necessary for all people everywhere, right? Because our world feels like, I mean,
Starting point is 00:15:50 you talk about all the things that seem to be on fire. That seemed to be going wrong. And I believe that women having more access to the tables where decisions are made, that will help this world better. To be better. It's really interesting that you bring that up because, and this is a really interesting part of the book. It's right at the beginning and it's just a beautiful little anecdotes. You go, recently on a call with a company hiring me to teach about leadership.
Starting point is 00:16:17 A man said, excuse me, Abby, I just need to ensure that what you present is applicable to men to. I said good question, but only if you ask every male speaker you've hired if his message is applicable to women to. Which is a really powerful thought that you don't think about. People will often say that. They'll be like, oh man, do the men understand women leadership? Yeah. Well, and also this was like a women leadership conference that I was going to. So like, for this dude to like like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, to, to, to, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, to to to to their, their, their, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to to to to to to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, their, to, to, to, their their their their their to me.e.a.a.a. too. too. to me. to, to, to, to, I was going to. So like, so this dude to like say this on the call and I'm saving him from actually putting this company out in his name, but the reality is like these microaggressions happen all the time.
Starting point is 00:16:56 And I think what we need to start doing is becoming aware of what these microagressions are. That's what this whole book is about. And then having the courage in the language to be able to counteract some of these things that we are interacting with in the everyday life. So me asking him that very question, my wife is the best at this. She's like, just flip it. Just flip the scenario, put yourself in their position. And if it is not equal, then, then, th and if it's, thin is, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, are, are, are, are, thi, are, the, their, their, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are they... thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. throoooooooooooooooooooooo. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. thi. thi treating somebody less than. There's a part of the book where you specifically say, hey, if you're a man reading this book, I hope you realize this book is for you as well.
Starting point is 00:17:30 This is a message we all have to engage in. And you speak specifically about the wolves in Yellowstone, right? And it's a story many people know or don't know. It's a story many people they're tho tho tho tho tho tho tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. thi. thi. thi. tho. tho tho tho tho tho tho tho thi. thi. tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. theeeeeean. thean. theean thean thean thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thi deer were destroying everything, they were eating everything, they had no predator and so the people said we need to introduce wolves. Yeah the rivers stopped running. Right. And so this decided that the scientists decided that they would reintroduce wolves into the Elso National Park ecosystem and the wolves they displaced the deer through through hunting and then the vegetation grew back and the rivers started to strengthen and then the river started to run again and so when I was giving the speech at Barnard last May I was hoping that these Barnard
Starting point is 00:18:12 graduates would get the connection between what the wolves were experiencing like what they you know wolves were threat to the system and they ended up being the salvation of this dying ecosystem and so too can we as women be the salvation of what's happening in our system right now. It's a really beautiful message. It's a powerful book. I'm excited for the journey that you're going to be on. Thank you so much for being on the show. Thank you. Hey everybody, John Stewart here. I am here to tell you about my new podcast, the weekly show coming out every Thursday. We're going to be talking about the election earnings calls. What are they talking about on these earnings calls?
Starting point is 00:18:50 We're going to be talking about ingredient to bread ratio on sandwiches. I know you have a lot of options as far as podcasts go, but how many of them come out on Thursday? Listen to the weekly show with John Stewart, wherever you get your podcast. Earlier today, I spoke with Megan Rapino, a two-time World Cup champion and Olympic gold medalist. She opened up about her activism, her success on the soccer field, and so much more. Megan Rapino, welcome to the Daily Social Distancing Show. I'm a big fan. I'm very excited to be here. This is exciting.
Starting point is 00:19:31 I am a bigger fan now that I see what you're wearing, because as a fan of hoodies, I am partial to the hoodie game. That's a pretty dope hoodie. Yeah, it's a good one. Chinatown Market is, you know, nice and colorful. It's comfy. I'm probably sweating underneath, but you can't tell. So it's fine. That's what makes hoodies the best.
Starting point is 00:19:51 No one knows what's happening underneath. What matters is what you look like. That's all that matters. Welcome to you very much. We're both very excited. You're engaged with somebody now who has a list of achievements that could only be matched by yours. So on your side, you have won two World Cups, an Olympic gold medal, one Ballon-Dor. Sue on her side has won four WNBA titles, four Olympic gold medals and four Fever World Cups. Question is, in the IKEA bookshelf, who gets to put the trophies where? Is there like priority?
Starting point is 00:20:31 Even my mom, we first got together, she's like, I googled Sue and like, you're really not that impressive anymore. I know, this is crazy. It's probably like percentage, or like, have, you know, my little sliver of like 20% and then like Sue's going to take up the rest of the shelf. I like that. There's no lie that there has been pay disparity between people of different genders and
Starting point is 00:20:54 different races, you know? In sports it's really interesting because you know, people always go like, oh well, I mean it's about income and it's about revenue. People don't go the games the games the games the games the games the games the games the games th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the's the's thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi's the's thoe. thi. thi's thi. thi. thea's thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I's thi. I's thi. I's thi. I's thi. I's thi. thi. thi. thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's the is the is the is the is theeeee is theeeeeeeea's theeea. thea. theea. thee is the is about revenue. People don't go to the games as much, the women's games, that's why they don't get paid as much. It's not us. It's the fans who are not going. How do you handle that dispute and how do you try and educate on-lookers who are just going, like, well, Megan, I don't know who's right and who's wrong in this thing. saying, but I understand what you are saying. How do you handle that side of the arguments to win people over? I think when in sports we often go to like what's your salary and
Starting point is 00:21:29 how many people are watching you or how many people in the stadium, but it really starts a lot before that. You have to think of it like a business that needs to be invested in. And you know, if the NBA is getting a billion dollars of investment, the WNBAA is getting, to, to, to, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, th, th, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, their, thi, thi, the, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I thi. I thi, their, their, their, their is getting a billion dollars of investment, the WNBA is getting, you know, even $100 million of investment, like one business is gonna be more successful. If you spend more on your marketing person and your branding person and your tick and your CEO, and you have all these people, like the business is going to run better. So by the time we get to the game, we've been so under invested in or at such a disadvantage a disadvantage a disadvantage disadvantage a disadvantage disadvantage disadvantage at such disadvantage at such a disadvantage disadvantage disadvantage at such a disadvantage disadvantage at such dis dis dis dis dis dis dis dis dis dis dis dis dis dis dis dis dis dis dis dis dis dis dis dis dis advantage at at at at at at at at at at at at at at at the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the such a disadvantage the whole time.
Starting point is 00:22:05 Like, it's shocking that we have as much success as we do, or as popular as we do as we are. I think it's like, let's understand the entire picture before we just go to the very last stage and be like, well, let's see, no one wants to come. I also love that your fight has inspired other women. And you talk about this in your book and you share this story. Your aunt told you that she fought for her pay when she saw you fighting for yours. What was that like, what did she do in her world that changed everything? To know that like she found herself in our fight, yeah, it made me really emotional.
Starting point is 00:22:42 It was a really touching moment. I thinkthink that's probably the most rewarding and the most important part out of our teams fight with the Federation and the lawsuits and the equal pay fight is like, yeah, of course we're doing it on our behalf, but still in the grand scheme, like we're so privileged, we still make a lot of money, we're still like superstars of some kind. But for so many women out there, like it's my aunt in her job. It's you know, a domestic worker or it's a restaurant worker. It's so difficult to do these things, even in our position, it's difficult. So to know that we've inspired or at least made people think down to every single
Starting point is 00:23:20 level is like that's the biggest win I think that we could have. The title of your newly released memoir is One Life, which I think is very misleading because I feel like you've lived many lives. You share so many inspiring, heartfelt and painful experiences from your journey, you know. I mean just some of the stories that stick out for me is, you know, the moment when you realize that your dad is a Trump supporter and yourself and your twin sister who are both gay say, hey, this breaks our heart and you have to deal with that with somebody that you love, do you have any tips or tricks on how to mend the wounds between family members who've been ripped apart because of politics? I just tried to keep talking. I still like obviously had this relationship. I love him and while it's it it it it it it it it it it it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's both it's both it's both both it's both both both both both both both both thi-s thi-s thi-s thi-s tho tho tho tho thi tho tho tho tho th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th just tried to keep talking.
Starting point is 00:24:05 I still like obviously had this relationship. I love him and while it's painful, of course, and it was painful to know that he would have voted for someone like that and supported him for a lot of years. I don't think he voted for him this year, which I'm thankful for. But it's like, we can't just not talk to each other. I mean, it's obviously a tough time for everyone right now, knowing it's that, what, 71 million people or something voted for someone who's just spewed hatred and chaos and disaster,
Starting point is 00:24:35 and we have, you know, approaching 250,000 people dead from COVID and all of these things, to know that someone supports that.that clearly there's much more to it that I think we need to dig into and have more conversation with just as family, as friends, as a nation, as everybody. I thank you for sharing. Your book truly, truly is something that I think everybody should read. They're going to love you even more fans.
Starting point is 00:25:01 You're going to have to build, and you're probably going to have to build like an extra trophy cabinet because of all the awards the book is probably going to win as well. So tell us you to make some space for those extra trophies. And congrats on the hoodie. Thank you so much for joining me, Megan. I appreciate you. Thank you. Explore more shows from the daily Show weeknights at 11 10 Central on Comedy Central and stream full episodes anytime on Fairmount Plus. This has been a comedy central podcast.
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