The Daily Show: Ears Edition - U.S. Drone Strike Kills Aid Worker | Carmelo Anthony
Episode Date: September 16, 2021Trevor highlights civilian deaths in Afghanistan, Desi Lydic examines the mistreatment of women in childbirth, and Carmelo Anthony discusses "Where Tomorrows Aren't Promised." Learn more about your a...d-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Like I'll do two a week and then I, um, actually, can I ask you a question, can I ask you,
maybe all you guys, because we all got to do the test to come in here, right?
So, like, I had a random question for you guys.
When you're getting your COVID test done, like, do you think you should like,
flare your nostrils when the person is doing it. Like, because I feel like, do you know what I mean?
I feel like the person is doing it.
And then sometimes we just leave our noses,
we like, they do all the work.
I almost feel like it would be polite.
To just like try and like flare them,
just to give them a bit more room.
I like try and do like, to do like a little,
Like I feel like they're doing it and then they're like, is this guy enjoying it?
And I'm not enjoying it, but I'm just like, yeah,
I'm here to make this easier for you as a person.
Just do like a little, it's just my way of saying like,
thank you, thank you for your help and I appreciate what you're doing for me.
And I mean, they'll proble just I'm just saying. Coming to you from the heart of Times Square,
the most important place on earth. It's the Daily Show, Ears Edition. Coming out. Hot
People Make a Sad. How babies are made. And Carmelo Anthony. This is the Daily Show with Trevor Noah.
Hey, what's going on everybody everybody welcome to the Daily Show
I'm Trevor Noah and today is Wednesday September 15th. Let's kick things off
with Instagram the reason every wedding has its own hashtag now. Let's face it
scrolling Instagram can be pretty depressing right the whole thing is just seeing
people you'll never smash wearing clothes you'll never own,
in places you'll never go.
So we've all pretty much known that Instagram is not great for your mental health.
And I think we've known this for a while.
But it turns out that Instagram also knew this.
Instagram can be damaging for many teenagers mental health, most notably teenage girls.
These are the internal findings from Instagram's own parent company.
The Wall Street Journal citing three years of the tech giants internal studies,
including one leaked PowerPoint slide from March 2020 that reads.
32% of teen girls said that when they felt bad about their bodies,
Instagram made them feel worse.
Another from 2019 reads, teens blame Instagram for increases
in the rate of anxiety and depression.
The Wall Street journals Jeff Horitz,
writing 6% of American teen users
who reported suicidal thoughts,
trace the desire to kill themselves to Instagram.
The research seems to contradict what CEO Mark Zuckerberg has said publicly.
The research that we've seen is that using social apps
to connect with other people can have positive mental health benefits.
Oh, that's weird.
The research I've seen says that I can keep making money
and there's nothing well adjusted about me, about me at all.
But that's right.
Instagram had secret data that it is in fact making us crazy.
You know, sort of like how the tobacco companies
always knew that cigarettes cause cancer
and they didn't say a thing.
Oil companies knew about climate change,
they didn't say a thing.
I almost feel like this should be a new law,
that every company's internal research
has to be made public. You know, that way we as the public, we know the same shit that they know at the same time. We don't have to wait 50 years to know what's actually in Girl
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It's when I started getting targeted ads for apps to calm your mind and help you unplug.
I mean, that's basically the algorithm staging and intervention.
And meanwhile, my reaction is like, damn, I wish my pictures of raindrops looked that good.
And even if your social media media media't making you depressed, here's another story
about how it could actually be getting you into trouble in a totally different way.
The LAPD is under fire tonight after it was revealed that officers were instructed to collect
social media accounts on every civilian they stop.
According to documents obtained by the nonprofit Brennan Center for Justice,
officers have been ordered to start collecting a person's social media handle or
username when they file reports on an incident.
The practice was started in 2015, the LAPD issued a statement saying social media handles
can be critical pieces of contact information
along with phone numbers and email addresses.
Okay, okay, I'm sorry.
This is a bad idea, right?
No one wants to give their social media handles to cops.
You know, maybe except for influences.
They'll probably start robbing banks just to get followers.
Oh no, obviously you caught me.
Hashtak, follow and subscribe.
And also, what exactly do you copses you're going to find on social media?
Like, you're never going to crack the case because someone posted hashtag TBT to me murdering Jeremy.
And I know it seems like a small thing, but how is this even any of the cops's business?
Can we not have one place in our lives where cops aren't on top of us all the time. People don't go on Twitter to get arrested. We go to Twitter to get canceled. And finally, some environmental news. As you probably
know by now, farming is a major source of pollution around the world, right?
Fertilizers contaminate waterways, pesticides get into our food, and not to
mention all of those single-use disposable tractors. But one big thing is ammonia
emissions, which damage soil and contributes to climate change.. And, and, to. And, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the news, news, news, the environmental the environmental the environmental the environmental news, news, the environmental the environmental the environmental the environmental the environmental the environmental the environmental the environmental, the environmental, the environmental the environmental, the environmental, the environmental, the environmental, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the environmental the the the the the the the the environmental the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to environmental news, environmental news, tipe, environmental news, environmental news, tipean, environmental news, environmental news, environmental, environmental, environmental, environmental, environmental, tipe, environmental, environmental, environmental, environmental, to, environmental, their, their, their, their. But one big thing is ammonia emissions,
which damaged soil and contributes to climate change.
But now researchers are taking that on at its source.
How about this?
Finally tonight, some scientists are working to potty train cattle.
That's right, cows.
Researchers in Germany say 11 out of 16 cows
actually learned to use the Mulu when they
had to go in just two weeks.
Turns out livestock waste is a serious issue.
A single cow can produce about 8 gallons of urine a day.
So far the potty training researchers have only focused on urine, but they claim cows
could probably be trained to go number two as well.
Wait, hold up, hold up, hold up.
Cows can use the bathroom now?
Yo, that's amazing.
Because, I mean, that means now,
your mama doesn't have to shit in the backyard anymore.
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takes them two weeks to learn how to do it. Like, it changes my perspective on cows
completely. Like, what else can cows do if we just give them a chance? All right? These mbs can probably read and we've just been jerking off their nipples. And I do wish
that this would actually make a difference in the cows' lives like you hope
it would but you know it's only going to be another popular selling point at
those fancy restaurants. Well our rib eye tonight is grass fed, pasture raised and
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conversations. Wow really? You got milked twice today? Oh my god that's great. Hey I
just got to run to the bathroom. Yeah no no I'll be back I'll be back
this is fascinating. All right but let's move on to our top story. Afghanistan. The only thing harder to get out of than a gym membership.
Just hours before America pulled out of the country last month, it got in one final drone
strike at a suspected terrorist, you know, for old time's sake.
Except now, we're learning more about who was actually droned.
New questions tonight about a US drone strike that killed 10 people in Afghanistan.
The New York Times reports the strike mistakenly targeted an aid worker, not someone connected to ISIS K.
The man's vehicle was said to be carrying bombs, but he was actually transporting water.
There's mounting evidence that that drone strike killed an Afghan working for a U.S. aid group,
along with nine others, including seven children.
A U.S. military investigation into the drone strike is underway.
We know from a variety of other means that at least one of those people that were killed
was an ISIS facilitator. So, were there others killed?
Yes, there are others killed.
Who they are? We don't know.
But at this point, we think that the procedures the procedures the procedures the procedures the procedures the procedures the procedures the procedures the procedures the procedures the procedures the procedures the procedures that the procedures the procedures the procedures that don't know. But at this point we think that the procedures were correctly followed and it was a righteous strike.
Okay, maybe we have different dictionaries, but if you killed one guy who you're still not
sure was a terrorist, but you definitely killed seven kids, I don't think righteous is
the word I would use.
You know, in fact, when you hear people use righteous, it's usually to justify terrible things
that they know they've done.
Like the Crusaders said they were righteous.
Colonizers said they were righteous.
Terrorists say that they're righteous.
You killed families and children.
Yeah, it was for a righteous court. Like, you know, we just observed the 20th anniversary of 9-11, and what do we say?
Never forget, which is a powerful and necessary sentiment, and it's true.
I'll never forget, hearing the phone calls from that day.
I'll never forget seeing the towers full.
I was in South Africa, I was a child, and I will never forget that day. But if I'm honest, I think we need to expand on what never forget means.
You know, I also feel like we should never forget how easily our fear can drive us to do horrible
things to other human beings.
Because as terrible as this drone strike was, what's even more terrible is that when you
look back at 20 years of the war, there's absolutely nothing
unique about it.
The past several years in Afghanistan have seen a rise in the number of civilians killed.
The first half of 2019 marked the first time that U.S. and Afghan forces were responsible
for more civilian deaths.
In 2008, we have the highest civilian casualties from airstrikes.
By 2011, those numbers have gone from over 550 civilians
killed in airstrikes per year, down to around 100.
Then when the Trump administration comes in,
we see a complete flip.
And it really goes into the idea that we're going to bomb the Taliban in submission.
Yeah, think about that.
At one point in this war, America and its allies
started killing more civilians than the Taliban.
I mean, that's a huge failure on the part of America.
And now that I think about it, it's a failure for the Taliban, too.
I mean, if you're killing more civilians than the Taliban,
what's the point of being there?
Like, if you're trying to catch the candy man, but you're killing more people than he is,
at some point, people are just going to be like, all right, well, maybe we should just stick with the candy man.
At least he's got candy.
What do you mean he doesn't have candy?
Well, why don't they just call him the killer man then? What makes it worse is that nobody ever seemed to face any consequences for these deaths,
right? There's no other job in the world where you can just accidentally kill innocent people
and then show up to work the next day like nothing happened, right? Nobody at the
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Okay, bye.
Because America's air war in Afghanistan was regularly killing civilians.
And what happened?
Was the Republic outcry?
Were charges filed?
No.
For most of the country, the war in Afghanistan was something most Americans did forget while it was happening.
And that's not what wars are supposed to feel like.
A war should be something that is impossible to ignore.
But to most people in America,
this war became like when you forget Netflix is on, right?
And then they have to pop up that little thing like,
yo, are you still alive? And best b best be best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their, the the their, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their, th....... th. th. thi? thi, thi, thi, the, the? the? thean. thean. tea. tea.. tea.. tea. tea. tea. tea. thea. thean. thean. thean have to pop up that little thing like, yo, are you still alive? And best believe, the people of Afghanistan
knew that the war was happening.
Because to them, the terror of America's drone war
was a part of everyday life.
And never forget that when a drone strike goes wrong,
it doesn't just end up killing lots of innocent people.
It also turns possible friends into definite enemies. Most Muslims around the world condemn the September 11 terrorist attacks on the United
States in 2001, but many consider the U.S. response to the terror attacks far worse.
In fact, some of the more controversial tactics that the U.S. used in Afghanistan, such
as night raids and arbitrary detentions and air strikes that sometimes kill civilians,
created this content in local
communities and actually helped the Taliban recruit more fighters.
Karim Khan, who's from that tribal region, tells me his brother and son were killed in a
drone strike in late 2009.
He is suing the CIA.
But given the chance, he says, he'd take revenge on those responsible.
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for killing my brother and my son.
Drones are creating not just one generation, but generations of jihadists because if you
kill a father, his son will come and this is what is happening. Man, this is such a shit show.
Forget being a four-star general, like if you just watch Kung Fu movies, you would know
this was inevitable.
If you kill someone's family for no reason, they're going to want revenge.
And can you blame them for wanting revenge?
This is what anyone would feel this. Imagine if like, I don't then tho th up your house, killed your entire family, you'd be devastated, and I promise you now it wouldn't make
you feel any better if they told you they were actually trying to get some guy named Gary.
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war, even wars that you barely know are going on, well, you're still paying for them.
How much did the war in Afghanistan actually cost on the accounting books? Between the initial
invasion and 20 years of supporting the Afghan government, estimates are in the trillions. It's an astronomical number. Our experts explained that's because
the war was basically paid in debt and every day the cost of the Afghanistan war actually goes up.
According to the Congressional Research Service, from 2001 to 2021, the Department of Defense
allocated $837 billion for military operations. But that isn't the Department of Defense allocated $837 billion for military operations.
But that isn't the final cost.
We fought this war on credit, and so this was mostly borrowed money that we used to pay
for the war.
The total cost they've estimated is $2.261 trillion.
The Afghanistan war cost about $300 million a day for two decades.
It is an eye-opening number.
Sweet Lord, 300 million dollars a day for 20 years. A day! Oh, wow, I feel like I'm
want to be sick. Think about it. For the last 20 years, Americans have been fighting hard about
where to find money for health care, for education, for infrastructure.
In fact, half of the reason Americans hate each other is because they're always fighting about money.
You know, like forget about schools and hospitals. For $300 million a day, America could have made a new Fast and Furious movie every day for 20 years.
Yeah, we could be up to Fast and Furious 7,000 by now.
We're gonna drive a car into the sun for family.
Man, but we did that like 2,000 sequels ago.
Yeah, but this time the car is green.
So look, I know it's almost impossible to rule out wars forever,
but the least we could do, the least we could do the next time we even consider getting into another war, is to never forget that it might that it that it that it that it that it that it that it that it th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th that th that that that that that that that that th thi thi thi thi thi' th th th thi' thi' thi' thi' thi' thi' thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi that that th. th. th. th th that th th that that th th th that that thi thi thi thi thi thi thi to to to thi to to to thi to to to thi to thi to thi to to thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th least we could do the next time we even consider getting into another war,
is to never forget that it might not actually make anybody feel safer, or safer at all.
You know, never forget that it'll cost you a fortune, and most importantly, never forget
that there are innocent people on the other side.
All right, when we come back, Desilightic goes into labor.
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So to solve the problem, we turn to Desilightek for another episode of not history, but of his hurry.
Oh, childbirth. It's like 3D printing a person.
Bringing a baby into this world isn't easy, but for most of recorded history, other people, usually
men, have been dictating to women the terms of their own childbirth, even when they don't
know what the hell they're talking about.
Time to take a couple of deep breaths and push out another history. Let's start all the way back in ancient Greece.
Plato may have been one of the greatest philosophers of all time and he could definitely rock that casual tunic look like nobody's business.
But when it comes to baby making, he was clueless. He thought the room could literally wander around the body like one of those DVD screensavers.
Whoa, is that an eyeball?
I am definitely on the wrong floor.
As dumb as Plato's dumb ideas about women's anatomy were, they were accepted by male doctors
for centuries.
And doctors couldn't do their own research because for most of human history, male doctors refused
to even watch a woman give birth.
They avoided the delivery room like it was an idea a woman said in a meeting.
In fact, in 1522, a curious German doctor decided to sneak into the delivery room dressed
as a midwife. And guess what? He was burned alive for it. It's like the most extreme drag
race challenge ever. So because men didn't have the balls to see a vagina, it was up to the midwives to deliver
the babies.
That is until the mid-16th century when men realized how much money they could make by doing
it themselves.
But even in the delivery room, men were still so squeamish about seeing lady parts
that they made women lie on their backs and cover their legs to deliver. That's the on your back is still the standard delivery procedure today. Even though there are
so many more comfortable and efficient positions a woman can give birth in, on
her side, squatting, on all fours, or how I did it, standing in line to get into
the Gucci sample sale. Fun fact, if you find a placenta stain on the
scarf, they'll give you an extra 5% off.
Aside from awkward positions, men started doing all kinds of things to women.
We never would have chosen ourselves.
We all know what this is, right?
Now, why do you think this was invented?
To chop down trees, hunt down unsuspecting hotties?
Wrong. O'n't the chainsaw was invented to assistant childbirth.
How horrifying is that?
At that point, I'd rather just let the baby grow up inside me.
It's no surprise male doctors would come up with the idea of
chainsawing a baby out of a woman,
because a woman's pain was never really taken into consideration,
which is crazy because pain is the most traumatic thing about childbirth.
Well, that and going on Morrie afterwards to to to to to find to find to find who thing about childbirth. Well, that and going
on Mori afterwards to find out who the child's father is. But for a long time, men believed
that women should feel pain during childbirth, that it was part of her destiny. So painkillers
weren't even an option. In 1591, a woman from Edinburgh had the gall to ask for pain relief during the birth of her twins, and no joke, she was burned at the stake for it.
Yeah, another one.
Apparently just telling someone no
wasn't invented for another couple centuries.
Painkillers were largely off limits
until the mid-19th century,
when Queen Victoria used chloroform
for the birth of her eighth child.
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Thanks to Queen Victoria, drugging women during childbirth
became much more acceptable.
But after 100 years or so, the no drugs
throwns their thanks to men like Dr. Grantley Dick Reed,
the first modern physician to suggest women shouldn't get drugs at all,
because he claimed that women's pain was all
in their heads. In his defense he was probably just trying to get revenge on
his mom for giving him that name. Look if women want drugs during childbirth
that's their choice. If they want to push a watermelon through a
bagel hole without drugs, that's also their choice. The problem is when
decisions are being made by other people without putting the woman first,
and that's not just in the past, it continues today.
There's OBGYNs who refuse to work with a Dula, apesiotomy is being performed without consent,
and unnecessary c-sections being pushed on women just to work around a doctor's lunch break,
which is honestly kind of weird, because if you still have an appetite after cutting a person open, then I need a new doctor and you need a shrink.
So to all the doctors and medical professionals out there, please listen to the women who are actually
pushing another human being out of their bodies. Take their concerns seriously, put
their interests first, and for God's sake, please, no more burning people at the stake.
Get her!
Great.
Thank you so much for that, Desi.
When we come back, I'll be talking to NBA legend Carmelo Anthony.
So stick around.
Welcome back to the Daily Show.
My guest tonight is 10-time NBA All-Star, author, and philanthropist, Camelot Anthony.
He's here to talk about his new memoir and the upcoming NBA season as a newly minted Los Angeles Laker.
Come on, Anthony. Welcome to the show.
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Lakers? I was like, because the Los Angeles Lakers? Was it the Lakers? But either way. The Lakers? Yeah, the Lakers? I like giving it like the full name. I don't know what it is for me. It's just like, it, it, it, it, it, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, the, it, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, liketo the show. Yes, yes. And congratulations on adding author to, I mean, like, a really impressive list of titles
that you already hold.
I will say, I think, like many people, I opened the book thinking, okay, Carmelo Anthony,
book is going to be basketball.
You're going to teach me how to do those moves. You're going to teach me how to fake, you're going to to teach me to teach me to teach me, right to teach me, right the to teach me, right, right, and teach, and teach, and teach, and teach, and teach, and teach, and teach, and teach, and teach, and teach, and teach, right, and the exact, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, to. And, to. to. to. to. to. the to. the to. th. to, I. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the exact opposite. It's like, this isn't the story of the Carmelo Anthony. This is the story of the Carmelo Anthony
that gets to the person that we know.
Absolutely.
Tell me why you chose to write this book.
I just think everybody knows that part of the story.
Like, they know the basketball part of the story.
They know, you know, you know, the business side, the business, the business, the business, the business, the business, the business, the business, the business, the business, the business, the business, the business, the business, the business, the business side, the business side, the business side, the business side, the business side, the business side, the business side, the business side, the business side, the business side, the business side, the business side, the business side, the business side, the business the business, the business, the business, the business, the business, the business, the business side, the business side, the business side, the business side, the business side side side side side side side side side side side side side side side side side side side side side side side side side side side side side side side side, the business side side side, the business side, the business side, the business side, the business side, the business side, the business side, the business side of Carmel & Anthony, but they don't know what it took to get to that part.
They don't know what I had to go through and endure and deal with and see and hear before
that, right?
So we talk about the 10,000 hour rule, right?
I've been doing that.
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Right, right, right.
When you read this book, where tomorrow's aren't promised, I think the title couldn't
be more perfect because that is the journey. You grew up in a world where there is no tomorroworrow tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow thomorrow, tho. I, thi. I is promised, thi. I's, thi. I's, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown. th thrown. thrown. throwne. tho, thi. thi. I'm, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I's, I's, I's, I's, toda. today. today. today. today, today, today, ttoday, ttoday, today, ttoday, today, today, tha. tha. tha. tha. today, tomorrow that is promised. No, none. And there's no journey that's pre-written.
When you were writing the book and you're telling us of the story and the world you grew up in
and everything that was, did you take a moment to realize what you've actually experienced
to get where you've gotten to?
Not until I read it.
Not as that it was life.
It was life.
I woke up every day, I saw the same people,
went to the same full spots, hung on the same block,
the same neighborhood, went to the same school.
That was my life every single day.
So I didn't look at it as it was difficulty.
Like it was just life.
We had to deal with life. We was going through life. What I was going through, my neighbor was going through.
The guy across the street was going through the same place.
So we, we was a very, we became a very tight knit community.
Carmelow, one of the most signature names like in the world, you know, whether it's
in hip hop tracks, whether it's in basketball signature. It is you you at one time wanted to be Tyrone Johnson
Who is tyrown Johnson? I have no idea. I have no idea. I have no I didn't want to be Tyrone
Johnson. I just didn't I didn't understand my name like it was just you got to understand me break it down you was I came from Brooklyn in Red Hook where it was was predominantly black Puerto Ricans. Italians was in the back. Irish was in the back. Iri. I. I. I. I. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I was. I. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. th. th. I th. th. th. th. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. black, Puerto Ricans, Italians was in the
back, Irish was in the back.
So we was very diverse.
When you go to Baltimore, it's all black.
So to hear a name Carmel, like you, I'm like, they're not going to understand what
that really is.
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they're going to butcher the name. So the teacher comes around and she passed the
index cards you got to put your name on their first day of school and
somebody else's name was on the board from the previous class. And I just looked up and I was a common name. And I and I and I and I and I and I and I and I and I and I and I the name. It. It. It the name. It was a the name. It was a the name. It was a their. It was a their. It was a their. It was like. It was like. It was like. It was like. It was like. It was. It was like. It was like. It was like. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. I was. I was. I was. I was like. I was like. I was like. I was like. I was like. I was like. I was like. I was like. I was like. I was like. I was like. I was like. I was like. I was like. I was like. I was like. I was like. I was like. I was like. I was a. I was a. I was a. I was a. I was a. I was a. I was a. I was a. I was a. I was a. I was a. I was a. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I took Tyrone and then added Johnson because that was a
very, yeah it was a common name. So Tyrone Johnson and that's why I became
for three days. What I loved is when you talk about how you came to love your name,
you know, so you get in trouble at school. Yeah. The teachers call your mom to the school. They go like, you know we got a deal with your son. She gets there and they and the and the and the and the and the and the and their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th, th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi's is thrown, t. ty's, ty's, try, try. tha try. try. thaee. try. tha's is try. tha's is the. the, they go like, you know, we got to deal with your son. She gets there and they go like Tyrone has been getting up to some shit and she goes, who's Tyrone?
So I got in trouble and I did something that I wasn't supposed to do. I hope kids ain't
listening to this. I knew what time my mother had to go to work. So I ran home and I made sure I was there for the phone call to tell my mother. So I like this.
My mom wasn't there, so I knew the phones were arranged.
You're trying to get ahead of the whipping.
You see the call ID?
Yeah.
I don't answer the phone.
My mom don't get it.
I still go to school the next day as if I was going to the school, I'm the last one. Everybody walks in, I stay outside in the yard.
As I'm outside, for some reason, maybe this was, you know, this was a higher power telling
me, giving me a message.
My mom comes driving down the street, and I peeked around the corner and we catch eye contact.
I couldn't, I couldn't make this up.
So that's how she found out that you went to school. I wasn't in school.
So she took me back to school and was asking questions, and that's when they told her,
hey, Ms. Johnson, your son Tyrone has been suspended, suspended for X, Y, Z.
She's like, mine, I don't know any Tyrone.
This is Carmano Anthony right here. Everyone knows you from the basketball court, but people have started knowing you in different areas as well.
You know, I remember just from South Africa,
you getting involved in basketball philanthropy around the world.
You know, you would come out, you would host clinics.
You would do it all over Africa.
You would just get involved.
That's how we knew Carmelo, not just from the NBA. You've been a big proponent of that, thua, th, th, th, to, to, to, to, to, you, you, to, you, you, you, you, you, you, to, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, to, you, to, to, to, to, to, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, to the kids. But what I loved in this book is you talk about how you never bought into the concept that like the sport will just save you
you know everyone will be like oh get the kids into the sport it saves them
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And one thing that I've always noticed, just as an outsider,
is how often people have written you off.
You know, people be like, well, it's over for,
got to hang it up now.
Oh, you've got to hang it up now.
Carmelo dropping this. And you must remember, I'm just coming into it, so I'm like, is it over? It doesn't seem to be over, but it's over, but it's not over.
It feels like you lived a life where you were written off.
It feels like you came from a world that was written off.
Do you think that's part of the reason that you just keep putting your head down
and making the place?
Is that?
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I've always felt like I had to like do extra and do more than the next person.
Right.
I always felt like I had to not be louder, but I had to show people a lot more of what
I can do, my talents and my skill and, you know, just being me.
And I was battling that for a long time and because I didn't know who I was as a person. Right. And when you
dealing with those type of issues and those those men that mentality it can
mess you up and I always I'm in a competitive sport anyway as it is so I don't
want to be competitive in every aspect of my life I want to come home I want to
to tun tell the TV on the TV the TV the TV the TV the TV the TV the TV the TV the TV the TV the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to the to to to to to the to to theauauauc I'm to to to to be. I was. I'm to be. I'm to be. to be. to be. the the the the to be competitive in every aspect of my life. I want to come home, I want to relax. I want
to turn the TV on, listen to music, drink some wine. I don't want to be competitive all
day, every day. And that's what it does to you, man. It just makes you competitive because
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And that's not something I don't want to live my life like that.
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read in this story, like to find your piece that it takes a long time.
I'm 37 years old and I just started over the past couple years.
Wow. To look and search for that piece.
37 years old and you are starting another journey, right?
Maybe one of the most anticipated parts of your career, which is crazy at 37, you know,
because you are joining the Lakers. I say the Lakers, joining the Lakers, and again, people are, you're,
the Laqa's, people are joining the Lakers, and again, you know, Lebron has talked about this, he's,
he has fun with it on Twitter and everything. You know, people are like, the retirement home. you know, you got Dwight, you've got Carmelo, you've got LeBron, you've got Rajan Rondo, you've got, this is, this is a retirement home.
And Lebron has said, oh, we'll show you what old men can do.
It feels like you've been in this position before, but it feels like it's a completely different
story every single time.
Why did you say yes? Why do you think that this would be different thapapap be different thap be different thap be different thap be different thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that that that that that that that that that that that that thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. theeeeeeeeeeeateea. thea. thei. thea. theiiiiiiiii. theeei. thi. theeeeetrying to prove or are you just in a different state of mind going into this next season?
It's nothing that I'm trying to prove.
If I want to pick LA, I'd have been at peace walking away from the game.
Knowing that I gave it everything I could and I still couldn't win the championship, I'd
have been at peace with that.
I'd have been good. that I'm in the Lakers, I can't be at peace when not winning the championship. So it's just, you gotta change your,
you know, you gotta change your way of thinking,
you gotta change your perspective.
But being out there at this point of time in my career,
we hear all, we hear all of it.
We hear that they old and senior citizen home from basketball,
but we just know what we bring to the game and what we bring to the table. And I say we're wiser, like we're wise.
We're not old.
37 is young.
36 is young.
I feel that.
It's only old in the sports world.
Uh-huh.
So like LeBron said, like other guys said, man, it's just, just watch and see.
And I think people will enjoy the show. Hey man, I know I'll be one of the people watching.
Congratulations on your book.
Congratulations on the story.
I hope everybody reads it because, as you said, you know, it'll connect with not just your journey, but how hard that journey actually is and how many people can relate to the story that gets you to where you are today.
Absolutely. It's universal. It's a universal message. I'll say that. I appreciate you. My dude. Thank you so much for joining me on the show. Don't forget people, Carmelo's book, Where Tomorrow's Aren't Promised, is available right now.
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