The Daily Stoic - Ask Daily Stoic

Episode Date: December 14, 2019

The first Saturday Q&A episode. In each of these episodes, Ryan will answer questions from fans about Stoicism. You can also find these videos on the Daily Stoic YouTube channel.See Priva...cy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, prime members, you can listen to the Daily Stoke podcast early and add free on Amazon music. Download the app today. Welcome to the Daily Stoke. For each day, we read a short passage designed to help you cultivate the strength, insight, wisdom necessary for living good life. insight, wisdom necessary for living good life. Each one of these passages is based on the 2000 year old philosophy that has guided some of history's greatest men and women. For more, you can visit us at dailystowach.com. All right, so we are starting a new segment called Ask Daily Stoke. So people can send in questions on Twitter, at Daily Stoke, you can send them in Facebook, at Daily Stoke. So people can send in questions on Twitter at Daily Stoke, you can send them in Facebook at Daily Stoke. You can email info at DailyStoke.com and you can ask us your pressing most interesting, most provocative questions about stoicism
Starting point is 00:00:55 and I will try to answer them. And then this will go up on the weekend on our podcast, Daily Stoke. And we'll also go up on our YouTube channel youtube.com slash daily stoke. So the first question we've got here, and this is one I actually get a lot in email, it's how would you explain stosism to a kid, right? And there's this awesome subreddit I love called explain it to me like I'm five, right? And so I've always been a big believer too.
Starting point is 00:01:22 If you can't explain something simple to a kid, you probably don't understand it So if I was trying to talk to your kid about stoicism I wouldn't tell them who Marcus really is was I wouldn't tell them about Seneca's complicated history with Nero I wouldn't try to explain you know epic teetus what I would focus on instead is Like the core lesson. I don't even think I would go with the four virtues, right? Wisdom, justice, moderation, and courage, because I think even that can go over their head.
Starting point is 00:01:51 I'd give them what I think is the simplest, most core lesson of stoicism, right? Again, this doesn't require dates, it doesn't require names, it doesn't require anything. It just requires this simple idea. And it comes to us from, I think all the stokes, there's not one that I would get, but it's, you don't control what happens to you in life. You control how you respond. And you can see how like instantly this is something you can give your son or your daughter. You can say, look, if someone pushes you down, you don't
Starting point is 00:02:21 control it. You don't like it. You don't want it to happen, you wish it didn't happen, but you do control how you respond. You control whether you hit them back, you control whether you tell a teacher, you control whether you cry, you control how you respond to what happens to them, right? You'd say like, look, you couldn't go outside earlier because it was raining.
Starting point is 00:02:38 So you had a choice, right? Did you cry about it? Did you get upset about it? Did you play me? Did you throw a temper tantrum? Or did you just decide to play games in your room instead, right? Did you decide to build a fork instead, right? What are the things we do instead of the things we can't do because of the things that are outside of our control? And I know that seems really simple, but if it was actually that simple, I think that adults would be better at it.
Starting point is 00:03:05 And so the earlier you can teach your kids that, like, look, the vet, like there's this huge circle of everything that's happening in the world, then there's the tiny percentage of it that we control, and most of what we control is in response to those things that we don't control. And when we realize this, we have an incredible power. We have the ability to be resilient,
Starting point is 00:03:28 we have the ability to be creative. So almost by accepting some powerlessness, we embrace a great power. And I think that's what you wanna arm your kids with. I would say like, look, you're a little right now, so you're probably used to a lot of things not being in your control. People tell you what to do,
Starting point is 00:03:44 people tell you what you can and can't do, people yell at you, people push you around, bigger kids don't let you do things you want to do. So that's unfortunate, right? But you also have this extreme power is that you decide how you're going to respond to these things, right? You control how you respond. And look, I think I'd be honest with your kids that like you struggle with this, that Marcus Aurel is the emperor of Rome, he struggled with this, right? And yet, all the great things that they did that you've been able to do are fundamentally related to this attitude. The decision to control how we respond to external events, it decides who we're going to be in this life. And if they can learn this, if they can embrace it,
Starting point is 00:04:25 they'll the best life ever, no one will truly be able to boss them around because they will be the boss. They're the boss of their feelings, their thoughts and their decisions. And that, to me, is the core of what stoicism is about. So to summarize, right, another Reddit thing, too long to read, I just tell you, to tell your kid,
Starting point is 00:04:44 hey look, the core of stoicism is, you don't control what happens in life, you control how you respond. So probably the most common question I get is like, what stoic should I start with? And I don't know because every person's different, but I personally started with meditation. This is actually my first copy of meditation.
Starting point is 00:05:02 You can see it here, all these different pens, all these different things. I found Marcus really is to be the easiest one to start with because it's not linear, it's not chronological. It's just a collection of aphorisms or ideas. But I can totally see why that's hard for some people. I would say if you're gonna start with Marcus Relius, read Marcus Relius Meditations,
Starting point is 00:05:21 the Gregory Hayes translation for the Modern Library. This is an older one. It's now I think black, with like a bird or a feather on it. But I think Marcus Relius is the best one to start with. The next one though, if Marcus Relius doesn't work for you, I'd probably go with Sennaka. I'd read either letters of Estoic, the Penguin Classics translation,
Starting point is 00:05:42 where I'd read his essay on the shortness of life. And there's also a Penguin short book with that as the title. I think that's a good simple sampling of Seneca. Seneca wrote hundreds and hundreds of letters, and letters of Asteoic is really just a collection of the best ones. But I'd start with Marcus Aurelius or Seneca. If I had to go with Epic Titus, who's a little denser, the Penguin Classics translation is pretty good, but I also recommend Sharon Lebel's translation,
Starting point is 00:06:12 which is more modern, more free-flowing. It's called the art of living. It's definitely not scholarly in that sense, but it's like really readable and really accessible. So I'd start with those. And then of course, daily stoic, what we wanted to do is answer that question, which is like, can you just give me one page
Starting point is 00:06:29 of the stoics to read each day? So it's all new translations. I think it's the best stuff from Santa Catapetitis Marcus Relius, but I'd probably start with any of those. So the question is, how can stoicism help me respond to criticism that I'm getting in my life? And I think there's a great question because the stoics were criticized a lot.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Marcus Realius is the emperor of Rome. He is not a tenured university professor, right? He is a political leader at the highest level. And naturally, a lot of people didn't like him, right? And they said that he sucked, right? Seneca was not just a high-ranking political leader and a writer, so people had feedback on both those things. But as a philosopher who was also quite rich,
Starting point is 00:07:11 he was the subject of a lot of criticism for his opulence. And people thought he was a hypocrite, and they attacked him for these things. And so the Stoics thought a lot about how do you respond to this? I think one of my favorite lines from the Stookes about responding to criticism comes from Epipetus. He says like when someone criticizes you, just say to yourself, if they really knew who I was, they'd be even harsher. Right? His point is that like whatever they're saying about you probably isn't even addressing your deepest darkest secrets or flaws. So you should be grateful that they're
Starting point is 00:07:42 criticizing you for this and not the other things. But Marcus, it really is what he thought tried to think about. It's not that. He would go like, who is this person criticizing me? You know, he says, what is to be prized? An audience clapping? No more than the clacking of tongues. That's what praise is clacking of tongues.
Starting point is 00:08:00 So he saw criticism and praise as being like this empty, meaningless thing. It didn't really matter and And he thought that because he really tried to think about the people who were throwing these insults or praise at him And he said, you know, how they act when they eat and sleep and mate and defecate and all the rest Then when they order an exalt or rage or thunder from on high and yet just consider the things they submitted to a moment to go and the reasons for it and the things they'll submit to again for very long. So we're trying to say, like, why do you care what these people think?
Starting point is 00:08:31 Look at who they are, right? He says, it never ceases to amaze me. We all love ourselves more than other people, but we care about their opinion more than our own. And what he means is like, why do I want the opinion, why do I want praise from someone who doesn't even have a high opinion about themselves or certainly doesn't deserve a high opinion of themselves. So when Marcus Aurelius wrote his meditations, he wasn't preaching, he wasn't trying to get your approval, he was practicing this sort of process himself, right? He was trying to envision criticism
Starting point is 00:09:06 and then steal himself in advance for the response. And clearly he fell prey to it, right? Like we all do. It's really hard to tune out noise. It's really hard when someone nails that thing that you're so sensitive about. But you have to remind yourself who's saying it. You gotta remind yourself as Epictetus is saying,
Starting point is 00:09:24 do they really even know what they're talking about? Do they really even know what's actually your problem? And one of the things I try to remind myself is I go like, look, these people don't work hard enough for their opinion to matter to me. They don't know me well enough, they don't even know what they're talking about well enough for me to let that hit me in a place
Starting point is 00:09:44 that's gonna get inside. And so, they're kind of stoic, inner citadel, the thick skin you've got to have to be in public life. That's part of it. But then we also want to break down who's saying it. And even if they were saying what we want them to say, does it mean anything? And the answer is really no. Hey, Prime Members, you can listen to the Daily Stoic Early and Add Free on Amazon Music, download the Amazon Music app today, or you can listen early and add free with Wondery Plus in Apple Podcasts. Raising kids can be one of the greatest rewards of a parent's life. But come on, someday, parenting is unbearable.
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