The Daily Stoic - Ask Daily Stoic: January 11, 2020

Episode Date: January 11, 2020

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, prime members, you can listen to the Daily Stoke podcast early and add free on Amazon music. Download the app today. Welcome to the Daily Stoke. Or each day we read a short passage designed to help you cultivate the strength, insight, wisdom necessary for living good life. Each one of these passages is based on the 2000-year-old philosophy that has guided some of history's greatest men and women. For more, you can visit us at aileastoic.com. Hey, this is Brian Holiday. Welcome to another episode of Ask Daily Stoic. You send us questions about stoicism.
Starting point is 00:00:44 I answer to the best of my ability. I give you some of my personal advice and then of course some advice from the Stoics. So our first question today is, according to Stoicism, we must work on things that we can control and not on the results. But when one is trying to be ambitious in sets goals, most of the goals are result-oriented. How can I be ambitious and not worry about the results at the same time? This is a great question because it is kind of a paradox in stosism, but there's some some really good advice for Marcus to realize on this. So he talks about how to tie your ambition to external results is to hand your sanity over to other people. It's like this is a recipe for misery. What you want to do is focus your goals on things you control.
Starting point is 00:01:30 So I can only really talk from experience here, but when I think about this as a writer, my goal is not to write a book that sells a certain amount of copies. My goal is not to hit the best seller list or to win certain awards. My goal is to write the best possible book that I can. Obviously, I want to sell lots of copies. I want to reach lots of people. I'm not
Starting point is 00:01:54 averse to receiving awards or recognition, but ego as the enemy came out, it should have debuted on the New York Times bestseller list, but it did not. Stillness is the key came out and it debuted at number one. Am I calling one a success in the other failure, even though by the same objective criteria, they both deserve to be in similar places? No, I think stillness is better not because it hit number one, but because I know that I was better as a writer, I put in more work, I put in more energy. I didn't leave any stone unturned. That it was recognized that it externally noticed fantastic, but that's not why it was better. I'm focusing my goals always on the parts of it that I control. Think of a football player. If your goal is to win a Super Bowl, it's great, but what if somebody drops a pass in the in zone? Your goal should be to have the best season you can to do as much as you can for the team
Starting point is 00:02:50 to think about it in that sense. So I think the Stoics try to make it a, it's not that they're goal averse. This is also kind of an Eastern concept, but it's when we're thinking about goals. It's like, how do we make the goal primarily about things that we control, that things that are up to us to use EpicTidus' term. So that's how I think about it in my own career. I want to get better. I always want to improve.
Starting point is 00:03:14 I always want to be making progress, but I don't want that progress to be up to other people necessarily. I want that to be extra. I want that to be bonus. And actually one of the things I'm proudest though, which is kind of part of my goal on stillness is the key, was to be more indifferent to the extra results. So on my first book, which came out about 10 years ago, trust me, I'm lying. Let's say I was 10% convinced I did a great
Starting point is 00:03:41 job and 90% looking to see how it debuted on the best soloist. I think it debuted on the Wall Street Journalist. Now I would say by the time stillness came out 10 years later or nine books later, it was precisely flipped. I was 90% inwardly focused on what I controlled and 10% looking for that external validation. And I think that's a stronger position to be in and that's a better position to be in, and that's a better way to live. All right, so somebody writes in,
Starting point is 00:04:08 my sister has a bit of depression. I've been trying to encourage her to learn and practice stuicism. One day I introduced Memento Mori to her, asking her to stop paying attention to criticism and trivial matters. And she asked me, so if I'm going to die one day,
Starting point is 00:04:21 why should I work at all? Why shouldn't I go and play and enjoy my life? She's not happy at work. And so how does stuicism and momentum more answer this question? First off, I would say if you're talking to a depressed person who's not feeling great about themselves, letting them know they're going to die is maybe not the best pick me up.
Starting point is 00:04:38 But I think what the stuix would say is not, they might not actually disagree with your sister. She's, you're telling her, look, life is finite. You don't get to do this forever. It's not, shouldn't I go and play and enjoy my life. You should absolutely enjoy your life and you should realize that life is too short to be spent at a job, living away, living in a place that does not make you happy that is not getting the best out of you.
Starting point is 00:05:05 So, I do think part of Momentumori is designed to provoke the exact question that she's asking. I think it's not, oh, you're going to die, so let's go do heroin. Let's have an orgy, as I've said before. It's, let's make sure I'm fully living this moment. And I think when I feel a little bit depressed, that's something I think about. I go, look, I'm not going to be here that much longer. So I'm not going to sit around feeling sorry for myself. I'm not going to whip myself. I'm going to get out and get moving and go do something. I'm going to try to make a positive step
Starting point is 00:05:36 towards where I want to end up. That's what I control. That's up to me. That's what I want to do. So it's not that we think about death to stop paying attention to criticism. It's that we start paying attention to death so that criticism is put in perspective. So the frustrations with our job are put in perspective. The problems that we have are put in perspective. And what comes out of that perspective is a sense that life is short. The things that a lot of people think matter don't really matter. And we should hone in on, hone in on what we really do think matters to us and what really is important to us. So death is not what you want to talk to a depressed person about.
Starting point is 00:06:18 That's a little glib and can be, you know, maybe the exact wrong thought you want to be planting in your head. But Memento Mori, for the rest of us, for people who are frustrated and unhappy, should help put some of our issues into contrast and help us make decisions that otherwise might be a little difficult. Someone is asking, what does the inner citadel look like, and how is it created and cultivated and used? So the inner citadel for the Stoics is the idea that even if you're thrown in prison, even if you lose everything,
Starting point is 00:06:49 even if you're attacked and persecuted, even if you know what life is throwing at you seems overwhelming, what you have inside you's this sort of endominable spirit, this fortitude, remember that's one of the big virtues in stosism, the sort of courage or fortitude. And we cultivate this, I think in a variety of ways. We cultivate it by meditating on the philosophical principles of stosism. Marcus really says not just writing these things in meditation. For fun, he's writing them to toughen himself up, to remind himself of what counts and
Starting point is 00:07:23 what matters. The Stoics also cultivated that inter-citadel by going out and doing difficult things. Marcus Aurelius is wrestling, he's boxing, he's hunting, he's doing physical activities, we might call them manly activities. But the point is he's active, it's not just this sort of mind or soul thing, it really is cultivated in doing what the Stoics call hard
Starting point is 00:07:47 winter training. So this is why Senuka is jumping in and taking cold plunges. This is why he's fasting or eating rugged fare. He's toughening himself up for the world. So the intersididil happens that way. And then I think the the core defense of the inner Citadel is probably that idea from from Epic Tetisuk. We don't control what happens. We control what we respond. What's up to us is our thoughts, our opinions, our emotions, the story we tell ourselves. So we realize, oh, they can do all these things to me. You know, Epic Tetis says, you can bind up my leg, but I will still go on like being philosophical. I will still, you can't bind up my will. And that actually happens to Epic Tidus, like he was a slave, his cruel slave owner broke his leg. Epic Tidus knew that people
Starting point is 00:08:40 could do things to you physically, but no one can touch what's inside of you. No one can make you go against what you believe. No one can force you to change your opinion. No event is so bad that you have to say it is bad. Ultimately, we control that. So the inner Citadel, to me, is kind of made up of those things. It's the training, it's the exercising, and then it's remembering that inside of you, things can't touch the soul, as the Stoics would say.
Starting point is 00:09:09 You have this sort of thing inside you that's totally up to you that even the worst situations in life can't touch. So thank you for listening to another episode of Ask Daily Stoics. Send in your questions to info at dailystoag.com. I like the more personal questions. If you want to talk to us about specific things you're struggling with, specific questions, passages you have, you know, questions about inside stoicism. If there's things you want us to talk about, shoot us a note.
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