The Daily Stoic - Here’s to the Renegades | Stop Caring What People Think

Episode Date: May 26, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, prime members, you can listen to the Daily Stoke Podcast early and add free on Amazon Music. Download the app today. Welcome to another episode of the Daily Stoke Podcast. On Thursdays, we do double duty, not just reading our daily meditation, reading our daily meditation, but also reading a passage from the book, the daily Stoic, 366 meditations on wisdom, perseverance, and the art of living, which I wrote with my wonderful co-author and collaborator, Steve Enhancelman. And so today we'll give you a quick meditation from one of the Stoics, from Epititus Markis, Relius, Seneca, then some analysis for me, and then we send you out into the world to do your best to turn these words into works. Hi, I'm David Brown, the host of Wundery's podcast business wars.
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Starting point is 00:02:55 a career that works, sign up at 80,000hours.org slash doughock. Here's to the renegades. There is a group of students at Brown University who want to remove a hundred-year-old statue of Marcus Aurelius because Marcus and Rome were colonizers. And there is an easy critique of the stilloks that they were a bunch of old white guys, and that stoicism was a philosophy of the status quo of accepting the way things are or were. But this of course would have been news to the actual stoics in the ancient world, and not just because they were born in Turkey and Iraq and Syria and Libya, Egypt. But because for roughly four centuries in ancient Greece and Rome, the Stoics were renegades of their time and age.
Starting point is 00:03:46 They fought against tyranny, that's Thrasia. They marched to the beat of their own drum, challenge and conventions and expectations of elite society, that would be Cato. They challenged gender roles, bringing women into philosophy, this would be Musonius. And they spoke out about corruption and unfairnessness that would have been antipater. They were a constant thorn in the side of the powers that be of the status quo, coming to be known for a generation in the first century as the stoic opposition, a title that earned many stoics, exile, and torture, and even death. And when it came to Rome, the conservative leadership found stoicism so transgressive
Starting point is 00:04:24 that they tried to ban it. The point is that the Stoics were and remain renegades. They questioned, they fight, they refused to compromise, they demand only what is right. They insist on virtue even if the world around them is falling to pieces. They don't always succeed, but and they aren't always appreciated for this, but they do it anyway.
Starting point is 00:04:43 They do it because it's what the philosophy demands. It's what leadership and privilege demand. The Stoic stepped up and showed that philosophy wasn't something they just talked about, but something they did, and they did it in the face of convention of the status quo and of the old rich white guys in power. And of course, you can read about the lives of the Stoics that I was talking about in lives of the Stoics. But I think a better way to understand Stoicism and leadership and creating change would be this leadership course that we've built. It's a nine-week course called the Daily Stoke Leadership Challenge Ancient Wisdom for the Modern Leader. And it's designed to mirror the kind of education that produced the historically great leaders like Marksrelius. And the Leadership Challenge, it's a master class with the cadence and rigor of a boot camp.
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Starting point is 00:06:00 We've previewed some of the leadership deep dives here on the podcast over the years. But you can sign up at dailystowic.com slash leadership challenge. And I hope you do. Stop caring what people think. And I'm reading to you today from the daily Stowic 366 meditations on wisdom perseverance in the art of living by yours truly. My co-author and translator, Steve Enhancelman. You can get signed copies by the way in the Daily Stoke store over a million copies of
Starting point is 00:06:32 the Daily Stoke in print now. It's been just such a lovely experience to watch it. It's been more than 250 weeks, consecutive weeks on the best cellist. It's just an awesome experience. But I hope you check it out. We have a premium leather edition at store.dailystoke.com as well. But let's get on with today's reading. And the quote today is from Marcus Aurelius Meditations 1214. I'm constantly amazed by how easily we love ourselves above all others yet we put more stock in the opinions of others than in our own estimation of
Starting point is 00:07:02 self. How much credence we give to the opinions of our peers and how little to our very own. Then the meditation says, how quickly we disregard our own feelings about something and adopt someone else's. We think a shirt looks good at the store, but view it with shame and scorn if our spouse or our coworker makes an off-handed remark. We can be immensely happy with our own lies until we find out that someone we don't like has even more. Or worse or more precariously, we can feel good about our accomplishments or talents
Starting point is 00:07:34 until some third-party validates them. Like most stoic exercises, this one attempts to teach us that although we control our own opinions, we don't control what other people think about us, about ourselves, at least of all. And for this reason, putting ourselves at the mercy of these opinions and trying to gain the approval of others are a dangerous endeavor. Don't spend too much time thinking about what other people think, think about what you think,
Starting point is 00:08:01 think instead about the results, about the impact, and about whether it is the right thing to do. I think about Kato when I think about this idea. So Kato famously is very wealthy, but he lives quite frugally. He doesn't wear a hat when he walks outside in Rome. He doesn't wear a fancy toga. He's often barefoot. These are things that people would have thought to be low class or out of style.
Starting point is 00:08:27 So, Kate sort of marches to the beat of his own drummer. And I think those things he was pursuing were good unto themselves, but what I think he was really doing is practicing not caring what other people thought about him, not caring about his reputation. And so, famously, when public opinion changes in Rome, Caesar appeals to the masses, Rome is going in a dangerous direction, Cato doesn't go with the tide. He stands for what's right, he stands for what he believes,
Starting point is 00:09:02 he doesn't care that he's often the odd man out. The people are questioning him, the people are judging him. He's practiced for this very moment. At my ranch here in Texas, we've got about 40 or so acres, which I don't obviously manage the way one would manage along, but then there's a little yard around the house. And because of all the different grasses, because the animals sometimes try to get in there,
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Starting point is 00:11:05 what's right for yourself, and then being okay, being judged, or looked at, a scance, or whatever. I mean, being a parent has been very good for me in this, right? Like, you know, maybe you're, you don't like to hurt other people's feelings, you don't like to say no, you don't want people to know how you think about things. But with a kid, you're like, oh no, this isn't about me. If I say yes, yes, yes, all this stuff I don't want to do, that comes out of the time that I spend with my family. Or if you are really conscious about what other people think about you, if they think you look silly or stupid,
Starting point is 00:11:39 think about the laughs that deprives you of with your kids. Think about the memories that this deprives you of with your kids. Think about the memories that this deprives you of with your kids. Think about how buttoned up and restrained this makes you. I'm thinking about this actually right now. So I'm about to fly. I've got to go to a talk, then I'm back, then to talk, and then back for a day and a half, then to talk. It's a lot of travel. It's lucrative. And then, you know, we live in a world where they just lifted the mass mandates on planes here in the US. A lot of people are over the pandemic.
Starting point is 00:12:10 I have a kid that's not vaccinated, because he's so young. And I have to think about my obligations to that kid. So look, it'd be fun for me to go do stuff on the trip. It'd be nicer not to have to wear a mask on the plane, but I have to think about what my obligations are to my son. Or more importantly, and this has been commonplace now, I'm the only one in a mask in a room, and I get it, right? I'm not saying that they should have to act any differently
Starting point is 00:12:38 than they want to have to act, or that they, like, I'm thinking they should make their own calculations. I have no thoughts on this whatsoever, but I have to be comfortable being the only person masked in the room and people going, why are you wearing that? I have to be okay. People not understanding what I'm doing, maybe even as I'm saying this to you, right? I could have chosen another example and and probably one that more people would have agreed
Starting point is 00:13:04 with or approved of. But that's sort of the point. I don't care what you think. I care what I think. I care about what I know and I care about what I think my obligations are. And in this case, my obligations are, if I get sick because I did something yesterday, I can't do the gig tomorrow. If I get sick of the gig tomorrow, can't do the one after that or the one after that.
Starting point is 00:13:23 And that costs me money. And it also would be a betrayal of my obligations to those commitments that I made. Then more importantly, if I bring something home when we're sort of on the, you know, so close to, well, not so close to taking forever. But the point is, I've come this far, I'm not gonna give up on that
Starting point is 00:13:39 because I feel like I have an obligation to my son and it doesn't cost me much, right? Besides what other people think, which't cost me much, right, besides what other people think, which I don't control, right. And this is what Mark is saying. We respect ourselves. We know it's important to us. We know what we value.
Starting point is 00:13:54 So why do we care what other people think, right? We don't control it. And we have to get comfortable being judged. We have to be comfortable sitting with our own self-estimation. We have to be comfortable with what we know self-estimation. We have to be comfortable with what we know is the right thing to do about what the results are of our decisions about the impact we're trying to have. And that's what matters. And by the way, if you disagree with my opinion, guess what? Your opinion, you can keep it to yourself.
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