The Daily Stoic - It's Not What Happens. It's How You Bear It. | Ask Daily Stoic
Episode Date: December 2, 2022It doesn't matter who you are, the facts are the same. Marcus Aurelius was Emperor. Epictetus was a slave. Two different fates, but the same reality. Most of life, most situations are out of ...our control. All we can do is respond to them well. All we can do is endure them.✉️ Want Stoic wisdom delivered to your inbox daily? Sign up for the FREE Daily Stoic email at https://dailystoic.com/dailyemail🏛 Get Stoic inspired books, medallions, and prints to remember these lessons at the Daily Stoic Store: https://store.dailystoic.com/📱 Follow us: Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, TikTok, and Facebook See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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designed to help you in your everyday life.
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and fellow stoics who are trying to apply this philosophy, whatever it is they happen to do.
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It's not what happens, it's how you bear it.
It doesn't matter who you are, the facts are the same.
Marcus Aurelius was emperor, Epictetus was a slave, two different fates, are the same. Marcus Aurelius was emperor. Epochetus was a slave. Two different fates, but the same reality.
Most of life, most situations are out of our control.
All we can do is respond to them well. All we can do is endure them.
In December 1950, the United States was deep into the war in Korea.
It seemed likely that the conflict would spiral out of control.
What would happen next? What could one do? Was it hopeless? Whose fault was it? into the war in Korea. It seemed likely that the conflict would spiral out of control.
What would happen next? What could one do? Was it hopeless? Whose fault was it?
As Secretary of State Dean Ackerson struggled under this burden, he got a letter from his old friend,
the foreign policy visionary, George Keenan. It's advice that bucks you up whether you're fighting
for the future of the free world or just trying to make it through high school.
And here it is.
In international as-in-private life, what counts most is not what happens to someone, but
how he bears what happens to him.
For this reason, almost everything depends from here on out on the manner in which we Americans
bear what is unquestionably a major failure in disaster to our national fortunes.
If we accept it with candor, with dignity, with a resolve to absorb its lessons and make it good by
doubled and determined effort, starting all over again if necessary along the pattern of Pearl Harbor,
we need lose neither our self-confidence nor our allies nor our powers for bargaining.
But if we try to conceal from our own people or from our allies the full measure of our misfortune,
or permit ourselves to seek relief
in any reactions of bluster or petulence or hysteria,
we can easily find this crisis resolving itself
into an irreparable deterioration of our world position
and of our confidence in ourselves.
We've talked before about this kind of paradox in Stoicism.
The Stoics were boldly optimistic and ruthlessly pragmatic. They always believed that they could
endure the worst circumstances and they accepted the brutal facts of those circumstances.
They saw the unquestionable major disaster and the unprecedented major opportunity. As I write in
Lives of the Stokes, Zena loses his entire fortune in a shipwreck, but by bearing this with grace
and fortitude he was able to discover a philosophy that changed the world. Marcus was the leader of Rome
through a series of crises that matched Truman's a war in a 15-year pandemic. Cato faced a
republic on the brink of collapse. Seneca, Musoneus, Rufus, Agrippinus, Rutilius, and Helvides, all were exiled.
These were difficult moments, but they bore them well, with confidence, dignity, candor,
and most of all, unflappable perseverance.
They might have temporarily bemoaned it, but they knew as epictetus knew that becoming
an Olympic class athlete takes sweat. So they
stuck to it just as you must. I really do recommend lives of the Stoics, the art
of living from Xenota, Marcus Aurelies. You see that the Stoics were just like
you, just like us in this moment. They faced adversity, they faced it well, and
they managed to learn real valuable lessons that they pass along to us in their
writings. So you can check that out. Anywhere books are. So I'll help you like it if you want to support the
podcast just check out the book.
We should probably talk around so as to be able to me, I mean, in reading your other words, I know that that's kind of the foundation of baseline for so much of what it is you do.
Number one, for those that don't know, what is it?
Number two, in burning questions for me, how, like why?
Like, how did this focus on philosophy, and specifically the stoics, especially for
a 20-something-year-old guy,
is mind blowing to me, how does all of that come to be?
Well, to go to another sort of lesson you learn
about the market is, so I wrote that,
I wrote, trust me, I'm lying, it came out,
it debuted on the best soloist,
it got a lot of attention, so well,
I did another book called Growth Hacker Marketing,
which is about sort of how startups
market themselves that did better than expected.
And then when I went to my publisher and I said,
okay, for my next book,
I wanna write about an obscure school of ancient philosophy
for which I did not study in school
and have, you know, no credentials for.
They were like, okay, they were not excited.
And to be perfect on is thinking less than half what I got paid for my first book.
That's not the direction you want to be going in as a creative.
You don't want to be paid less as you go on.
And so actually, I recently I asked my editor, I had her on my podcast so, actually, I recently, I asked my editor,
I had her on my podcast and I said,
you know, what went through your mind
as I came to you with this book?
And she said, honestly, we were just hoping
you would get this out of your system.
We hoped that you would write it
and then you'd go back to doing what you obviously
should be writing about, which is marketing books.
And so, I had a sense of what I really wanted to do.
And I also had a really strong sense of what the audience actually wanted, because I've
been writing about Stoicism on my blog and I could see that this was really actually
helpful to people.
But it was a risk.
I mean, a friend of mine, not a great friend, predicted that the obstacle
is the way it would sell 5,000 copies. It sold over a million copies and it's in 30 languages.
So there's a lesson, I learned this in Hollywood, it comes from William Goldman, the screenwriter.
He says, nobody knows anything. At the end of the day, nobody knows anything about what's going to work.
Which means you might as well trust yourself, right?
You might as well, you know, trust your gut
if you've earned that trust.
So I came up with the idea to do that book
and there was a lot of obstacles
that ended up ironically doing well,
a book about obstacles.
But to me, what stoicism is about
and why it's resonated is that it goes to the fundamental realities
of what it means to be a human or an entrepreneur, a business executive or a person alive during
a pandemic.
Stoicism is basically the idea that we don't control what happens to us, but we control
how we respond.
And so Stoicism is a philosophy built around how
to respond. There's four virtues in stoicism, courage, justice, wisdom, and self-discipline.
And so, I just had the sense that this really ancient set of ideas, this way of living,
which dates back to Zeno who I was telling you about. Marcus Arelius,
Epictetus, Ceneca, Cato, maybe you've heard of some of these figures, maybe you haven't.
But these were real people who were using these ideas in a real difficult world.
I just had the sense that life is still life, things are still unpredictable.
How do we deal with that?
That's the journey we're all on.
And so what I wanted to do is translate those ideas
into a modern kind of business context.
So I still got to dig a little further.
How does this happen?
Like how does Ryan Holiday wake up and say, stoicism?
I've got to go study this ancient philosophy.
I've got to read meditations and I got to understand
a realist, and then I'm going to not only understand it,
I'm going to go write the obstacles the way
based around all of this understanding.
Like, how does that happen?
Was it an influence?
Was it something you read?
Was it a feeling you always had throughout your life?
Like, what drove that?
What made that your passion?
Well, I told you about that story about Zeno,
sort of going up and asking, you know,
where can I find someone like that?
And that was kind of the journey I was on.
I went to a conference, sort of like this one
when I was in college, and I went up to the speaker,
and I just said, hey, do you have any book recommendations?
Like I just said, hey, what are you reading?
Is there anything that might work for me?
And the speaker recommended Epic Titus and Marcus Realis.
And I actually went back to my hotel room
and I bought those books and then I read them.
You know, you were joking.
You're like, some people might be ordering these books
right now or they were supposed to read them.
Life is defined by not the opportunities were given, but the opportunities we take advantage
of.
I think even Marcus Aurelis, somebody who loans him a copy of Epictetus, a Greek slave,
or Roman slave who comes to study philosophy,
he didn't have to read it, right?
Like how many books sit unopened on people's nightstands
or sit gathering dust on somebody's bookshelf?
So for me, it was the ask,
but that's only like 1% of the equation.
The 99 that counts is, I read the book and I listened to it and then I followed that started me on a journey, right?
And a lot of people read something and go, oh, I heard about that. That's interesting.
But do you really go down the rabbit hole? Do you commit like are you in charge of your education or are you just letting things happen to you?
You know, so for me at that age, I think it was,
I had a lot of questions.
I had a lot of things I wanted to learn,
but I also had the drive and the discipline
to really commit myself to it and to follow it where it led.
So you come out and you write obstacle, right?
So that was the first, I mean,
I should start studying stosism.
Opsilose the ways is the obstacle you choose to go attack or write that book about stoicism,
forced you to learn even more than yet, you probably got it before at least initially.
What lessons did you gather in writing the book?
And putting that book together, going through the process, what did you learn?
What did that both teach you?
Yeah, I think one of the things I learned on that book,
just from like a market, let's call it a marketing
and messaging standpoint.
I was like, I'm fascinated with stoicism.
I've read all these books about stoicism.
I want to teach people stoicism.
So I went and I read all the books about stosism. Like I read the books of
stosism like the ancient texts and then I read all the more modern books. And what I found over and
over again why they were so uninteresting to me is that they were just repeating, they'd be like
and then Sena said this and then Marcus said this and it was a lot of analysis, right? And I thought
but that's not that's not why people read books. People read books for analysis, right? And I thought, but that's not why people read books.
People read books for stories, right?
People try to learn.
And that was actually something that I got from Robert Green.
Robert Green's books are the laws of power illustrated by history, right?
And so when I decided to write about stoicism, what I tried a lot of things that didn't work first as I experimented and tinkered
until I came to the right format was,
oh, okay, the way to teach these ideas
is not to explain them, it's to illustrate them.
There's a reason Jesus speaks in parables.
There's a reason that what we remember
are anecdotes and jokes and stories,
not facts and figures.
And so what I tried to build that book around
was an illustration of the ideas.
And I think that's why it resonated,
not just in a way people didn't expect,
but it resonated with people who,
they were like, not only if I not read any books
about philosophy, they're like, I if I not read any books about philosophy,
they're like, I've read a book since high school. You know, you want your thing to be accessible,
ideally you want to crack an audience like, I didn't want to write a book that competed with
all the other philosophy books. That's a market like this big, right? I wanted to write a book that
made philosophy interesting to people who thought philosophy was
inaccessible to them.
So if you have read, or even if you haven't read obstacles the way, what are, you know,
my crack that will go up to which ironically it is on my bed, my desk next to my bed,
because I left it there and grabbed the other ones.
I've cracked it open for paraphrasing conversations,
but what are the water to take away?
That you want your reader to draw from that specific book.
And he says, objective judgment now at this very moment.
Unselfish action now at this very moment,
willing acceptance now at this very moment.
He says, that's all that you need.
To me, that's the perfect encapsulation of what stoicism is about.
And it's actually the formula for overcoming obstacles, but it's also the formula for enduring
success and for anything.
It's, you know, how do you see things clearly?
How do you take action, but not any action, the right action?
And then also, how do you bring the determination and perseverance and grit,
you know, required to triumph over inevitable obstacles and difficulty?
That's what stoicism is about. And so the book is split up in the three disciplines,
a discipline of perception, the discipline of action, and the discipline of will.
And it's illustrated with stories
or people who actually did that
in moments that are like ones we've all experienced
and then moments way beyond anything
any of us have ever experienced. That's my Memento Mori coin.
I think about it all the time playing with it on my desk right now.
Something I carry always.
It's probably the thing I get asked about the most when I bump into people in public.
It's just been a game changer for me.
I have a bunch of different Memento Mori reminders, of course.
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