The Daily Stoic - Temper Your Ambition | A Cautionary Tale From Napoleon Bonaparte

Episode Date: September 22, 2024

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Starting point is 00:01:44 hard at work on the wisdom book right now. And one of the things I just finished this chapter this week, actually, I can see the light at the end of the tunnel. One of the things I'm writing about is like sort of the ultimate form of wisdom is self-awareness. If you don't understand yourself, it doesn't matter how many math equations you know, how much history you know, how brilliant you are, You're gonna be constrained. You're gonna get yourself in trouble because you don't know who you are. And you can still do important, impressive things,
Starting point is 00:02:12 but I think there's a vulnerability or fragility to those things inherently. Self-awareness then being sort of one of these key virtues. And it ties into discipline because you have to know your weaknesses. You have to know your proclivities. You have to know yourself, what you're tempted to do. In Discipline is Destiny,
Starting point is 00:02:34 which would be the second book in the series, I talked a lot about Napoleon. And I have a chapter on this essay contest that Napoleon entered as a young man. It's a fascinating essay, as you'll see, because Napoleon basically predicts all of his vices, all of the trouble he gets himself. He basically spells out what would be his own downfall,
Starting point is 00:02:59 what he didn't have the discipline to contain and what so many powerful people don't have the discipline to contain. And what so many powerful people don't have the discipline to contain. It's good to wanna do things and to follow your talents and potential where they go. That's another thing I talk about in discipline assessment. I was talking about in the justice book, the idea of fulfilling your potential.
Starting point is 00:03:17 If you don't, it deprives the world of something. But if all you're thinking about is your own potential, what you could achieve more and more and more and more, if you have this insatiable, quenchless ambition, it will inevitably destroy you. And in Napoleon's case, quite nearly destroy the world. It destroyed France, destroyed the lives of millions of people. He's a cautionary tale. He's a brilliant general, but a cautionary tale for all the reasons we're gonna talk about
Starting point is 00:03:46 in today's episode. This is about tempering your ambition, right? The virtue of self-discipline is sometimes rendered as temperance about curbing, checking the impulses, the desires, the proclivities. And we're gonna be talking about something the stoics talk a lot about ambition. Marx really talks about a mission quite a lot
Starting point is 00:04:04 in meditations. I'll link to some of the daily stoics talk a lot about ambition. Marx really talks about ambition quite a lot in meditations. I'll link to some of the daily stoic emails we've done on ambition, just if you wanna get the stoic view on it a bit more. But in today's episode, I'm bringing you me reading the audio book of this chapter in Discipline is Destiny, where you can get anywhere books are sold.
Starting point is 00:04:21 If you want signed copies, you can go to store.dailystoic.com. I'll link to that in today's show notes. And I appreciate you all listening to the audio books. If my voice sounds a little different to you right now, it's because I got 20-ish pages left of the audio book of the 10-year anniversary edition of The Obstacle Is The Way, which I'll be announcing shortly.
Starting point is 00:04:38 So my voice is a little fried. So I'm gonna cut this intro off here and go to something I recorded when I was a bit fresher back in 2022. Discipline is destiny, the power of self-control. Temper your ambition. Temper your ambition. In 1791, a young Napoleon entered an essay contest
Starting point is 00:05:01 with the hopes of winning its 1200 franc prize. The prompt was a powerful one. What are the most important truths and feelings for men to learn to be happy? The essay took him six months to write and he did not win, but at age 22 and his youthful excitement, he put down as good a warning about insatiable ambition as there ever was.
Starting point is 00:05:25 What is Alexander the Great doing when he rushes from Thebes into Persia and thence into India? He is ever restless. He loses his wits. He believes himself God, the future conqueror would write. What is the end of Cromwell? He governs England, but is he not tormented by all the daggers of the furies? Damning illustrations of the heights of intemperance. And if that weren't enough, Napoleon then moves in for the coup de grace
Starting point is 00:05:57 with a pronouncement whose meaning is unmistakable. Ambition, which overthrows governments and private fortunes, which feeds on blood and crimes, ambition is, like all inordinate passions, a violent unthinking fever which ceases only when life ceases, like a conflagration which fanned by a pitiless wind, ends only after all has been consumed. If only the adult Napoleon had been reminded of these words during those turbulent destructive years when he named himself emperor of the French and mandated pompous titles for himself
Starting point is 00:06:35 like serene highness and excellence, while he placed his incompetent relatives on thrones across Europe. If only someone could have reminded him of his own feelings about the perils of unchecked ambition. But wait, somebody actually did. In the early 1800s, Talleyrand, his foreign minister, dug up the essay in the archives
Starting point is 00:06:58 and gave it to Napoleon as both a gift and a warning, which his imperial and royal majesty, yet another title he gave himself, refused to accept as either. "'The author deserved to be whipped,' Napoleon said of his younger self. "'What ridiculous things I said "'and how annoyed I would be if they were preserved,'
Starting point is 00:07:18 he exclaimed as he threw what he thought was the only copy into a fire. A short time later, he would once again litter the continent with a generation of bodies and find himself exiled to a rock in the ocean where he could do no more damage to humanity. Being a part of a royal family might seem enticing, but more often than not, it comes at the expense of everything, like your freedom, your privacy, and sometimes even your head. Even the Royals is a podcast from Wondery that pulls back the curtain on royal families, past and present, from all over the world to show you the darker side of what it means
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Starting point is 00:08:51 for unfettered ambition. Sure, he was brilliant. Sure, he accomplished incredible things. Where did it leave him? Empty, alone, unhappy. Go, he found himself taunting his own men when they finally realized he would never be satisfied. Go tell your countrymen that you left Alexander completing the conquest of the world.
Starting point is 00:09:11 Except he died almost immediately after and his empire collapsed with him. The poet juvenile remarked that the whole world had not been big enough to contain Alexander, but in the end, a coffin was sufficient. And what had it all been for? Like Napoleon, it hadn't been about his people or about a cause.
Starting point is 00:09:31 He had waged wars of offense and aggression entirely for himself. This was a pathological need to achieve for which the consequences were ultimately born by basically everyone else. There is a considerable amount of self-discipline required to quit bad habits, particularly the more gluttonous ones.
Starting point is 00:09:51 But of all the addictions in the world, the most intoxicating and the hardest to control is ambition. Because unlike drinking, society rewards it. We look up to the successful. We don't ask them what they are doing or why they are doing it. We only ask them how they do it. We look up to the successful. We don't ask them what they are doing or why they are doing it. We only ask them how they do it. We conveniently ignore how little satisfaction their accomplishments bring them, how miserable most of them are, and how miserable
Starting point is 00:10:15 they tend to make everyone around them in turn. Seneca, a man whose ambition got him into trouble like Napoleon would say of a ruthless general named Marius, the Napoleon of his time, that while Marius commanded armies, ambition commanded Marius. He lamented the leaders and business people and conquerors who disrupted and disturbed the world while they themselves were disturbed and disrupted. Marius and Napoleon and Alexander were powerful, but ultimately powerless because they couldn't stop, because there was never enough. They lusted for control over millions because they lacked control over themselves. Just as we do with our relationship to drugs or devices,
Starting point is 00:10:59 we have to ask ourselves, who is in charge? Our mind or our slavish need to be the biggest, the winningest, the richest, the most powerful or the most famous, the need to do more, to get more, to achieve again and again. We have to ask, what is this really bringing me? What am I actually getting out of it? Did Napoleon's accomplishments make him happy?
Starting point is 00:11:22 Power and wealth didn't even make him secure. Besides the guilt and shame which he clearly deserved, he died alone on his second island in the middle of the ocean. Now this criticism doesn't mean that all accomplishments are to be scorned. What would the world look like if nobody tried to do anything, if nobody pushed to get better or do more? If we didn't have ambition, some big goal we were after, how would we know what the little things, what distractions to say no to?
Starting point is 00:11:51 Ambition is good, but it must be tempered. Like all elements of self-discipline, it is about balance. The monk or the priest who tries to reduce their needs to nothing, who rejects everyone and everything in pursuit of spiritual perfection is not all that dissimilar to the billionaire who keeps building and building or the quarterback who can't even consider retiring.
Starting point is 00:12:12 At the same time, the person who dreams of nothing, who believes in nothing, who tries nothing, well, that's not really the point either. What we're talking about here is really temperament. We must have a sense of self and worth that can check our ceaseless ambition before it or leaps itself, as Shakespeare warned. Without the break that prevents us from getting carried away, ambition not only deprives us of happiness, but it can very
Starting point is 00:12:35 well destroy us and harm others, as the insatiable conquerors invariably do. Whether it's innocent victims of the wars they wageaged, the people they use and discard on the way up the ladder, the family they neglect in the process, or the countless imitators they inspire. We don't need accomplishments to feel good or to be good enough. What do we need? The truth? Not much.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Some food and water, work that we can challenge ourselves on, a calm mind in the midst of adversity, sleep, good routine, a cause we are committed to, something we're getting better at. Everything else is extra or worse as history has shown countless times, the source of our painful downfall. Thanks so much for listening. If you could rate this podcast and leave a review on iTunes, that would mean so much to us and would really help the show. We appreciate it.
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