The Daily Stoic - The Most Important Thing | Ask DS

Episode Date: May 9, 2024

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Starting point is 00:01:02 culminating in Sam Altman's shocking firing. Make sure to listen to Business Wars on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. And for more deep dive and daily business content, listen to Wondery, the destination for business podcasts. Welcome to the Daily Stoic Podcast, where each day we read a passage of ancient wisdom designed to help you in your everyday life. Well, on Thursdays, we not only read the daily meditation, but we answer some questions from listeners and fellow Stoics who are trying to apply this philosophy just as you are. Some of these come from my talks, some of these come from Zoom sessions that we do with
Starting point is 00:01:41 daily Stoic life members or as part of the challenges. Some of them are from interactions I have on the street when there happened to be someone there recording. But thank you for listening and we hope this is of use to you. Stoicism is a selfish philosophy. That's what you're supposed to believe, right? That's what all the critics say. And it's not a coincidence that Stoicism is a selfish philosophy. That's what you're supposed to believe, right? That's what all the critics say and it's not a coincidence that stoicism is considered self-help and self-improvement. The stoics did emphasize self-discipline
Starting point is 00:02:15 after all. Yet a quick textual analysis of Marcus Aurelius obliterates this notion. More than 20 times in meditations Marcus Aurelius talks about the importance of doing what's right, talks about the right thing. More than 20 times in meditations, Marcus Rilius talks about the importance of doing what's right, talks about the right thing more than 30 times. He talks about the virtue of justice. He's not talking about court cases, and the law here, and roughly 80 times, Marcus Rilius talks about the common good, which he said one ought to serve above all, and always. Literally, in so many words, Stoicism is a
Starting point is 00:02:46 philosophy about doing good in the world, about doing what's right not in your own self-interests but in the interests of others too. Yet far too much of the focus of the Stoic conversation is about individualistic struggles, how to manage your temper, how to get over your fear of death, when it was so clearly intended to be about our collective struggle. �The fruit of this life is good character and acts for the common good,� Marx really writes in Meditations. �This is the perfect formula because it captures both sides of the stoic coin. We must be men and women of integrity, but also men and women of action, putting that
Starting point is 00:03:22 integrity to work in the world.� The Epicureans retreated to their gardens, but the Stoics held public office, they tried to raise their families right. They tried to contribute to their community, they served in the military, tried cases before the court, helped the vulnerable and misfortunate. They resisted tyranny, many of them dying in opposition to Nero or suffering exile under other emperors. Just that you do the right things, says Marcus Aurelius in Meditations.
Starting point is 00:03:50 The rest doesn't matter. The idea of doing what's right, of making a positive contribution to the world. Hey, it's me, Ryan, breaking the fourth wall yet again. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. But what I'm talking about in Right Thing Right Now, good values, good character, good deeds, it's this idea. The last five years, I've been working on this series on the cardinal virtues of stoicism. I did Courage is Calling, which is courage,
Starting point is 00:04:13 Discipline is Destiny, that's temperance, and now Right Thing Right Now, which is about justice. The book on wisdom is to come, but in the meantime, I would really love for you to read Right Thing Right Now, which officially comes out on June 11th, 2024. Pre-ordering a book makes a huge difference for authors and for bookstores as they try to get a book off the ground.
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Starting point is 00:04:56 fellow Stoics, we're going to have a philosophical dinner here at the Painted Porch in the fall. All that is on the landing page. Just go to DailyStoic.com. in the fall. All that is on the landing page. Just go to dailystoic.com. slash justice. Of course, you can order the book from anywhere. And then you can redeem the bonuses there. But. If you want some numbered first editions signed by me, you can't get that anywhere else. You can grab those. It's cheaper than on Amazon, by the way, just head over to daily stoic.com. slash justice to grab the book. It's coming out in June, but it would mean so much to me
Starting point is 00:05:27 if you pre-ordered it now. Hey, it's Ryan. Welcome to another episode of the Daily Stoic podcast. Coming to you from Bastrop, Texas. And my office here is in Bastrop. The bookstore is in Bastrop. My ranch is in Bastrop County. It's where I live.
Starting point is 00:05:49 It's where I write. And it's where I do so much of what you listen to and absorb. And I was invited to do a little Q and A down at the Bastrop Public Library, which is right up the street from the bookstore. My mortal enemy. They're giving books away for free over there.
Starting point is 00:06:07 I don't know what they're doing, but they were nice enough to ask me to come down and answer a few questions. And so I'm gonna bring you some of that in today's episode, talking about how and why we opened the painted porch, how I integrate Stoicism into my life in this wonderful little small town, and how I try to balance work, life and family.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Just some questions from some lovely folks. And I believe the event was to raise money for the public library, which is always nice. If you are ever in central Texas or you're driving through from Houston or College Station, Bastrop's a lovely place to visit and I think you'll like it. It's got a nice little library
Starting point is 00:06:47 and of course we've got the bookstore. So I'll bring you today's episode, enjoy. So how and why did you end up in Bastrop? We moved to Austin in about 10 or so years ago and we lived in East Austin and we loved it. And then I think we were having a conversation one day and we said something like, if we're going to live in Texas, we should really live in Texas. And plus, our goat needed a bit more space than East Austin could offer.
Starting point is 00:07:17 And so we we bought a little ranch out in Bastrop County. And we've been here ever since. So it's funny because we opened the bookstore in 2021 I think and so everyone in Bastrop is very very welcoming of course everyone comes in and says you know welcome to Bastrop you know and it's like we've been here for a very long time but no it's been great we love it. Well tell us a little bit about the painted porch and maybe some upcoming or future plans you have with that space. Yeah, I was thinking about it. Technically, we're mortal enemies because, you know, you guys give books away for free here, which is insane.
Starting point is 00:07:56 I think that's the socialism they're wife and I, and we were looking at 910 and 912 Main Street, which I think had last been maybe a Mexican restaurant. Probably. And it had been vacant for some time. And we had this crazy idea that it could maybe be a bookstore and that was probably crazy under regular circumstances and we started construction and got serious about it exactly four years ago so March of 2020 so perfect timing and nothing nothing got in the way it was sort of like a rest of
Starting point is 00:08:42 development I think I've made a huge mistake. We thought that quite a bit for the first year or so, but it worked out. What it actually was is we needed some, I think I needed to stop working from home and we needed more space for all of our books. And so instead of, you know, renting boring office space somewhere on the outskirts of Austin, we just thought, what if we did something cool? And it's been really, really cool. Good. And how many of you have been to the Pillar Porch? Well, thank you all very much.
Starting point is 00:09:22 It's a beautiful space. When I have people visit, that's one of the first places I take them, right? It's just to take photos in front of that fireplace. That fireplace was inspired, if you've ever been to Ford's Theater in Washington, D.C., you walk in, you can't actually, you don't spend very much time in the theater, you're there for like two seconds, and then they take you to this museum that's attached.
Starting point is 00:09:40 And I don't know if you remember, they have a tower of books that goes, it's like a three or four story building, but it goes all the way up and it's a spiral of books only about Lincoln. That's how many books they'd written about Lincoln. And so I thought that, I saw that and I always thought it was cool. And I know we wanted something that kind of stood out about it. We want to do something like an art project in this space. And so that was the idea that fireplace is non-functioning so you would I don't think ordinarily you would
Starting point is 00:10:09 wrap that's that you're getting the Fahrenheit 451 territory there but because it's not functioning but it is it was built up very nicely we could we were able to stack books up on it and thank you you've written and spoken cool. Thank you. You've written and spoken about this practice of eriteo virtue and choosing what we do with situations that arise, those situations we find ourselves in. How have you found or been able to practice this philosophy yourself? It's funny, I have it, it's behind my desk now. When I was staring out into a very empty bookstore in the depths of the pandemic. And we were, I wouldn't say regretting it, but we were wondering how this was going to work out. I wrote this little note to myself. I said, 2020 is a choice.
Starting point is 00:10:59 What make you a better person or a worse person? And that's kind of how I think the ideas in stoicism ultimately come down. It's like you are faced with some situation and you can't necessarily know how it's gonna end up. I didn't know if the bookstore would ever open. I didn't know if it would work out. I didn't know if people would like it.
Starting point is 00:11:21 I didn't know, the vast majority of. I didn't know, you know, the vast majority of the Road ahead was uncertain But I did I could have some influence over how I changed as a result of it for better or for worse So that's that to me that's when when the Stokes say like the obstacles the way that's what they mean They don't mean everything is a chance to have more fun or everything's a chance to improve your Career or your bargaining position. It's it. I mean sometimes everything is a chance to have more fun, or everything's a chance to improve your career or your bargaining position. I mean, sometimes, you know, sometimes there's a comeback,
Starting point is 00:11:52 sometimes there's a surprise silver lining, but not always, but the real thing that you can always do is emerge from it wiser, more empathetic, more understanding, a better sense of what's important or not important. So that's kind of how I think about it. That's good, one would hope. All right, you have said in the regimen, there is freedom.
Starting point is 00:12:16 So with all your daily reading and writing and podcast recordings and working with the brass check, how do you practice that self-discipline that allows quality time for Samantha and the boys? I mean, one of the reasons I live here instead of in New York City or Los Angeles or some other place is, like, it's simpler, it's easier, everything's close. And so we kind of have tried to...
Starting point is 00:12:42 I think, you know, if your routine requires immense amounts of discipline and willpower to maintain, because everything around you is difficult and frustrating and complicated, you know, you've got to be a superhero just to sort of keep an ordinary amount of, you know, things in the air. So we, that was what made us really excited about this, is, you know, can walk to the dentist or, you know, things in the air. So that was what made us really excited about this, is, you know, can walk to the dentist,
Starting point is 00:13:09 or, you know, is this the benefits of being in a small town? There are downsides, of course, but the benefits of the small town is that, or what I love about this town is it's got pretty much everything you need. So when I sort of try to set up my days, I just try to keep them simple. I try not to get overcommitted.
Starting point is 00:13:28 And then I try to do the things that are important. And part of the reason we set up the bookstore and the office and all this stuff was that it just made things easier. I'm not driving into Austin, this thing's out on this side of town. And that's kind of our home base. And it's been wonderful.
Starting point is 00:13:48 And it gets it out of the house. So like when we're there, it's work and school or whatever. And then when we're at home, it's home as opposed to, I think boundaries are really important and the pandemic has created this sort of hybrid work environment and work from home, this is all wonderful, right? But I think from that, just as discipline can create freedom, freedom creates the opportunity or the necessity of discipline. So if your office says you have to be here
Starting point is 00:14:19 from this time to this time, and this is when your lunch break is, and there's someone looking over your shoulder to make sure you're on task. You know, you don't have to be that disciplined. You don't have to have boundaries or systems because they're forced upon you. But when you have freedom, when you're in control,
Starting point is 00:14:38 you are required then to have self-discipline. You have to impose order on the chaos that is getting to do what you want. And I see employees struggle with that all the time. They think it's wonderful, and it is, but it just demands more of you. And so I think part of why we set the things up is just to be able to go, okay, here, when we're at home, we're at home, and when we're working, it's work as you can have this sort of endless bleeding. So you're always on your phone and always doing stuff. So that's one of the reasons we sort of set things up that way. members, you can listen to the daily Stoic early and ad free on Amazon Music, download the Amazon Music app today, or you can
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