The Daily Stoic - This Is Why It's So Hard | Practice True Joy

Episode Date: May 24, 2021

“Everyone has trouble admitting they were wrong, including Marcus Aurelius. Yes, he writes glibly in Meditations about how he’s glad to be corrected, but why do you think he wrote that? B...ecause it wasn’t natural. He was reminding himself...probably right after he caught himself failing to admit an error.”Ryan discusses why it’s dangerous to confuse what we do with who we are, and reads this week’s meditation from The Daily Stoic Journal, on today’s Daily Stoic Podcast.This episode is also brought to you by Eight Sleep. The new Pod Pro Cover by Eight Sleep is the most advanced solution on the market for thermoregulation. It pairs dynamic cooling and heating with biometric tracking. You can add the Cover to any mattress, and start sleeping as cool as 55°F or as hot as 110°F. Go to eightsleep.com/dailystoic to check out the Pod Pro Cover and save $150 at checkout.***If you enjoyed this week’s podcast, we’d love for you to leave a review on Apple Podcasts. It helps with our visibility, and the more people listen to the podcast, the more we can invest into it and make it even better.Sign up for the Daily Stoic email: http://DailyStoic.com/signupFollow Daily Stoic:Twitter: https://twitter.com/dailystoicInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/dailystoic/Facebook: http://facebook.com/dailystoicYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/dailystoicTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@daily_stoic See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, prime members. You can listen to the Daily Stoic podcast early and add free on Amazon music download the app today Welcome to the Daily Stoic podcast each day. We bring you a meditation inspired by the ancient Stoics Illustrated with stories from history Current events and literature to help you be better at what you do. And at the beginning of the week, we try to do a deeper dive, setting a kind of stoic intention for the week, something to meditate on, something to think on, something to leave you with, to journal about whatever it is you happen to be doing. So let's get into it.
Starting point is 00:00:40 Hi, I'm David Brown, the host of Wundery's podcast business wars. And in our new season, Walmart must fight off target, the new discounter that's both savvy and fashion forward. Listen to business wars on Amazon music or wherever you get your podcasts. This is why it's so hard. Everyone has trouble admitting they were wrong, including Marcus Aurelius. Yes, he writes glibly in meditations how he's glad to be corrected.
Starting point is 00:01:12 But why do you think he wrote that? Because it wasn't natural. He was reminding himself probably right after he caught himself failing to admit an error. It's hard for us to admit we're wrong because of a little thing called cognitive dissonance. When we have a strong belief when we are committed to an action or a cause and are shown contrary information, we're challenged. Can we really accept that we were so stupid as to actually think that, that we wasted all that time, money, energy over something that turned out to be silly, or worse, what if our beliefs or actions caused
Starting point is 00:01:45 real harm to ourselves or others? COVID-19 has been a terrifying illustration of this. First certain people discounted it completely. Next they resisted lockdowns or closures or social distancing. Next masks, then vaccines. In between they believed conspiracy theories behaved recklessly and said horrible things. All the while the death tolls rose, matched only by the piles and piles of clear evidence against all the claims of these people. You'd think that being repeatedly wrong
Starting point is 00:02:17 would be humbling, that eventually they'd wake up and change, but think of what admitting they were wrong about any of this would imply. The point is not to dunk on these misinformed people, but to empathize. We all find ourselves in such traps. We invest in something where turn up our nose at an opportunity, facts change or become clearer. Can we re-evaluate or are we too stubborn and scared? We join an organization and believe in it. Once inside as time passes, we get glimpses
Starting point is 00:02:46 of its true nature or its impact. Can we leave? Can we stand up and say, this is not right? Or do we blind ourselves and become corrupted by it? It's hard to admit we're wrong because our identity gets tied up and stuff. Our ego gets involved. It separates us from our sense of right and wrong. It makes us forget our true mission, as Mark has really said, which is to get to the truth. And this is very sad and often incredibly tragic. Practice true joy. This is this week's meditation from the Daily Stewart Journal, 366 days of writing and reflection on the art of living. There is no audio book of this journal, so the weekly podcast episode is the only way to hear this sort of weekly meditation that we do inside the journal. And it's always been weird for me. I don't know if I should call
Starting point is 00:03:41 the journal that I wrote a book. It's 20,000 words. It's got writing in it. Is it a journal? Is it a book? In any case, here is today's meditation. The Stoics held joy to be one of the good passions worthy of practice in everyday life. But Stoic joy isn't about the delights of the senses or material pleasures. To markets are really as joy was being kind to others. To Seneca, it was freedom from fear or suffering and death. Let's laugh with Democritus, as Seneca says, and engage in our proper human work with joy. So consider making your study of philosophy this week around the idea of where you might find joy and what good you might find to do with it. And here's Mark's Relious on Meditations.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Joy for human beings lies in proper human work. And proper human work consists in acts of kindness to other human beings, disdain for the stirring of the senses, and identifying trustworthy impressions, and contemplating the natural order in all that happens in keeping with it. Then we have Seneca and his moral letters. He says, Trust me, real joy is a serious thing.
Starting point is 00:04:49 Do you think that someone can in the charming expression blithely dismiss death with an easy disposition or swing open the door to poverty, keeping pleasures in check or meditate on the endurance of suffering? The one who is comfortable with turning these thoughts over is truly full of joy, but hardly cheerful. It's exactly such a joy that I would wish for you to possess for it will never truly run dry once you've laid claim to its source. And finally, we have Seneca in on tranquility of mine. He says, Heraclitus would shed tears whenever he went out in public,
Starting point is 00:05:21 Democritus laughed. One saw the whole as a parade of miseries, the other of follies. And so we shall take a lighter view of things and bear them with an easy spirit for it is more human to laugh at life than to lament it. There is this sense, right, that the Stoics are joyless, that the Stoics are humoralistness, that the Stoics don't appreciate existence,
Starting point is 00:05:43 that they're just here, beasts of burden, unfeeling, and ready to face death with barely a whimper. But I think there's first up too much humor in the Stoics, whether it's Mark Sirrelius, or Seneca, or of course, Chrysipus, who allegedly died laughing at some inside joke whose meaning barely even survives to us. I just don't think that the Stoics were without joy. You could look at Seneca's enormous parties. You know, he famously has like 300 ivory tables
Starting point is 00:06:19 as hypocrisy or it could be an insight to a side of the Stoics that perhaps doesn't appear in their writing very much, but clearly was a big part of their existence, which was, you know, socializing and connecting and having fun with people. But I think what the Stoics, what Santa Camos of all is trying to say here is that joy is not hedonism, it's not just pure happiness and lightness, the joy comes from that place of resilience, from removing the unnecessary disturbances that cause misery. I'd probably define Stoke joy as the absence of misery that a lot of people experience, whether it's fear or anger or jealousy or anxiety. Instead of like joy is drinking joy is luxury joy is parties. I think for the Stokes it was joy was the absence of the longing for those things or
Starting point is 00:07:19 anything that made you unhappy. But then we have to add in Marcus Aurelius' wrinkle, which I think Marcus truly found, although he seems to be an introverted, quiet person who loved his books, he clearly found joy in being of service, helping people of making the world better. And we have to see that as a key part of our role, you know, as an introvert myself, I do empathize with that expression
Starting point is 00:07:47 that hell is other people, that life is easier when you focus on your stuff. But this is also its own form of misery ultimately because it makes you lonely, it deprives you of purpose, it deprives you of connection. This though it did celebrate joy, they did believe it was an important passion, an important part of life. They just would have disagreed with the Epicurians who seemed to find joy in external things, external pleasures, external experiences.
Starting point is 00:08:17 I think for this Dox joy was something deeper. It was a way of living. It was a way of thinking. It was a deeper emanation of self-sufficiency, but also connection, locking in on one's purpose. Doing the work that one is put here to do. When Mark really says, the fruit of this life is good character and acts for the common good. I think he's also talking about what gives him joy and what makes him happy in this life. And I hope you find the same thing. Seek out joy. Certainly don't disdain joy and certainly don't
Starting point is 00:08:50 think that this philosophy is about not experiencing the joy. I wish you much happiness and joy. You deserve it. My life is better when I have it. And it's something that I actually actively have to work on and so do you. something that I actually actively have to work on and so do you. Thanks so much for listening to the Daily Stoke Podcast. Again, if you don't know this, you can get these delivered to you via email every day. You just go to dailystoke.com slash email. So check it out at dailystoke.com slash email. Hey, Prime Members! You can listen to the Daily Stoic early and ad-free on Amazon Music, download the Amazon Music
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