The Daily Stoic - You Can't Get Even | The Freedom Of Contempt

Episode Date: April 22, 2024

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Starting point is 00:02:38 So let's get into it. You can't get even. Seneca was exiled on trumped up charges. The same thing happened to Rutilius Rufus. The same thing happened to Musonius Rufus, three separate times. These men, indeed all the Stoics, came to know what it meant to be hurt, to be wronged, to have something taken from them. What about Epictetus?
Starting point is 00:03:11 He was thrown into slavery. What about Marcus Aurelius who buried half his children? No one deserves something like that. How do you get over it? How do you move on? You don't really. In Lonesome Dove, Gus McCrae consoles a man who just had his friend and stepson brutally murdered. Son, this is a sad thing, McRae says. Loss of life always is.
Starting point is 00:03:33 But the life is lost for good. Don't be trying to give back pain for pain. You can't get even in business like this. The plains were a dark and lawless place, he was saying. The men who did this are evil in a way that you cannot possibly punish. That isn't what we want to hear. Of course, we want permission to rage and burn. We want to make people feel responsible for our pain.
Starting point is 00:03:54 We want the world to feel our pain. Yet the Stoic texts are replete with timeless warnings against this. Marcus Aurelius quotes a lost line from a play by Euripides. Why should we be angry at the world as if the world would notice? Seneca in his essays on anger and in letters compares revenge to returning a bite to a dog or a kick to a mule. The Stoics were accepting in a way the impotence of us fragile humans. Stuff happens to us. People do cruel things to each other. You can't get even in a world like that.
Starting point is 00:04:25 You can't beat them at that game. There are too many of them and they are worse than you can imagine. But you know what you can do? You can move on. How can you get revenge? The only way, Marcus Rulis said, was to not be like that, to not let it ruin you, to not let it consume your life, to not let its inhumanities steal your humanity. Basically, the Stokes believed in this idea of sympathia, the radical idea that we're all interconnected and interdependent on each other.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Life is short, Marcus Relius reminds us, the fruit of this life is good character and acts for the common good. That's what this little sympathia medallion I have on my desk is a reminder of. It's got a picture of the blue marble earth from a distance. Mark Strelitz talks about taking the 10,000 foot view. And it's about reminding how we were made to put up with each other to do good for each other. And it's just a wonderful reminder
Starting point is 00:05:15 that I think we need more than ever. You can grab that at store.dailystoke.com. I'll link to it in today's show notes. The freedom of contempt. The language we use to describe things imputes value to those things. We often embellish our language with superlatives to help make our choices of what to buy, wear, eat, or drink seem much better than they really are. As Emperor Marcus Aurelius could have the finest Philernean wine at his table at any meal, but he preferred to remind himself that this was only grape juice.
Starting point is 00:05:53 As emperor, he was the only Roman allowed to wear a purple cloak, but he took pains to point out that this cloak was like any other, just dyed with shellfish blood so as to produce a purple hue. This week, try to practice cutting your own luxuries and the things you yearn for down to size with a little contempt. Describe them with the bluntest language you can, and see how much their power over you diminishes. Just as when meat or other foods are set before us, we think this is a dead fish or a dead bird or a pig. Also, this fine wine is only the juice of a bunch of grapes.
Starting point is 00:06:30 This purple-edged robe is just sheep's wool dyed in a bit of blood from a shellfish, or of sex that is only the rubbing of private parts together followed by a spasmic discharge. In the same way, our impressions grab actual events and permeate them, so we see things as they really are. Marcus Aurelius Meditation 613 Keep a list before your mind of all those who burn with anger and resentment about something, or even the most renowned for success, misfortune, evil deeds, or any special distinction, then ask yourself,
Starting point is 00:07:05 how did it work out? Smoke and dust, the stuff of simple myth trying to be legend. That's Marcus Aurelius' Meditations, 1227. You know what wine and liquor tastes like. It makes no difference whether a hundred or a thousand bottles pass through your bladder. You are nothing more than a filter. This is from the Daily Stoic Journal. The week's entry is titled, The Freedom of Contempt. I don't know, this has long been one of my favorite exercises in all of stoicism. It's just brilliant, it's cynical, it's funny, it's really practical too. Marcus really didn't have to live in a time of Madison Avenue advertising. He didn't live in
Starting point is 00:07:47 a time of social media influencers. He didn't live in a time of propaganda and misinformation. There wasn't spinning and selling the way that there is now. And yet even then he had to practice just seeing through all the bullshit, seeing through to what things actually were, stripping them, as he says, of the legend that encrusts them. So when Epictetus talks about putting things to the test, this is what Marcus is doing. He says, I'm not going to get distracted by my urges, by my immediate positive reaction to this, to the way my mouth is watering when I see X or the way that my eyes get big when I see Y. It says I'm going to really break down what I see here. I'm going to describe it in the most unflinching, unvarnished, least
Starting point is 00:08:32 sympathetic language possible. And I'm going to see what that reflection back to me does, how it changes my opinion of it., there's that expression about seeing how the sausage gets made. When you go and see the sausage gets made or you see, you know, underneath things, they lose their power over you. And that's what this stoic practice is really about. And it's so important. It's not that you don't want, you'll never enjoy this or that ever again. It's just you want to enjoy it with the deceit turned down a little bit, the legend, a little more thread there. And this is an active practice we have to go through. So as you walk out in a parking lot and you see a Lexus, remind
Starting point is 00:09:20 yourself this is just a Toyota with fancier branding, right? When you see a $300 pair of Nike's, remind yourself of the sweatshop that this was likely made in. When you hear someone talking about how they are a billionaire, remind yourself just how dumb a lot of billionaires have turned out to be, right? When you're intimidated by someone's fancy degree, again, remind yourself who else has graduated from that institution. Think of the corruption. Think of the evil ideas that have come out of that institution over the years. Again, this isn't to dismiss or demean the things entirely. It's just to counteract that impulse of jealousy, of envy, impulse of jealousy, of envy, of lust, of fear. You know, there's that expression about if you see a beautiful woman that somewhere someone is sick of that person's shit. And that's true for everything, every person, and it'll take
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