The Daily Stoic - You Can’t Not Think It | 12 Stoic Lessons From Las Vegas

Episode Date: October 4, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, prime members, you can listen to the Daily Stoic Podcast early and add free on Amazon Music. Download the app today. Welcome to the Daily Stoic Podcast, where each day we read a passage of ancient wisdom designed to help you in your everyday life. On Tuesdays, we take a closer look at these stoic ideas, how we can apply them in our actual lives. Thanks for listening, and I hope you enjoy. Hi, I'm David Brown, the host of Wunderree's podcast business wars. And in our new season, Walmart must fight off target, the new discounter that's both savvy and fashion forward.
Starting point is 00:00:43 Listen to business wars on Amazon music or wherever you get your podcasts. You can't not think it. Nobody wants to think about their business failing or their marriage falling apart. Certainly no one heading out on a family road trip wants to think about getting in an accident in the middle of nowhere in the middle of night or breaking down in a dangerous neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Does anyone really want to think about that friendly hookup turning not so friendly? No, you don't. But you must, you must. The great Gavin De Becker's line is something like if you can't imagine it, you can't prevent it. And this, of course, is precisely what Senaika spoke about over and over again, and that we render today as pre-metatashio malorum, the unexpected blow lands heaviest, Senaika wrote, all the terms of the human lot should be before your eyes. You owe that to your business, to your kids, to your dreams, being naive, not wanting to consider the unpleasant, insisting that these kinds of things don't happen to people like you. This doesn't make those things less likely to happen. All it does is make it certain that if they do happen, you'll be unprepared.
Starting point is 00:01:53 You'll be exposed. You'll be on the back foot. Instead, you must seek to be like epictetus, like a good stoic boss, parent, teacher, or leader. Someone who is able to say whatever happens, parent, teacher, or leader, someone who is able to say whatever happens, ah, yes, this is exactly what I thought might happen, and I am trained and ready for it. Well, I did it. I am officially at the halfway point or past on the four virtues series that I've been writing.
Starting point is 00:02:20 Discipline is destiny, the power of self control is now out in the world. Meanwhile, I'm hard at work on the next one. I'm trying not to focus on the results, trying not to focus on how far I've come, as the Stokes talk about, as I talk about in the book, I'm trying to keep my nose down and do the work, to be disciplined, to not be distracted, although there's nothing as distracting and consuming as a book launch. I appreciate everyone so much who supported the book. It's been the biggest launch I've ever had. All of your support means so much to me.
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Starting point is 00:03:04 You can do that at dailystilic.com slash preorder. And if you're a podcast person, which clearly are, you're listening to this, the audiobook is out, which I also recorded and grab it on audible. I books anywhere you get your audiobooks. E-book is out too. I can't wait to hear what all of you think and thanks to everyone for supporting discipline is destiny, the power of self-control, which is out now everywhere. Hey, it's Ryan Holiday. Welcome to another episode of The Daily Stoic Podcast. I am headed to Las Vegas for a talk and I was actually just there in February and while I was there, I shot some videos.
Starting point is 00:03:47 I was thinking about just what a strange place Las Vegas is. I mean, it shouldn't be there. It's a symbol of monument to so much of what is wrong, not just with America, but with people in general. It's a monument we could say to the opposite of the stoic virtue of temperance. It's all about excess. Now, look, you could argue there's a time and a place for life to go have fun to let loose. Certainly, Kato did this. He was famous for some drinking parties. Senika had all his wooden tables or his ivory tables for entertaining.
Starting point is 00:04:21 The Romans knew how to party. They also knew about the power of moderation, and they looked down on the people who were slaves to any kind of compulsive habit, what of their drinking or eating or partying or gambling. Everything you see in Las Vegas, and I'm not talking about Caesar's palace where I actually happen to be staying, but everything you see in Las Vegas would have been very familiar to the Stoics, I have to say. Marcus Aurelius would have known these drunk party goers. He would have recognized the beautiful fountains of the Bellagio because Romans had their own versions of that. He would have noticed the lions at the MGM grand and you know how that was part of them like that. All I'm saying is this was some fruitful ground for some
Starting point is 00:05:14 meditating on some stoic lessons which I wanted to bring to you today and hopefully while I'm there I'll again I'll riff on some more but in the meantime here are 12 stoic lessons from Las Vegas and I guess it I should say given that the discipline book is about to come out. It took some discipline not to want to go on the buffet of buffets which I've done before not to gamble. You know to to keep my head down to focus on the work I was there to do. And you know I do my best to try to live up to what I talk about on this podcast and in my writings. And if you want to check out Discipline's Destiny, don't forget you can pre-order that at dailystowick.com slash pre-order. Got a bunch of awesome bonuses for you, but check that out. I'll talk to you soon. One of the most important concepts in all of ancient blasphemy comes to us from Aristotle, because it's the golden meme, not too much, not too little. He says all virtues sit between two extremes, between two vices. So like here in Las Vegas, it's not that you would
Starting point is 00:06:11 enjoy no pleasure. It's also not that you would take it so far like hangover style excess. It's the right amount, right in the middle. For the Stoics, the name of this virtue was temperance, right? Moderation. So it's about finding the right amount, not too much, not too little, the right amount. Of course there are some things for which there is no right amount, whether you're in Las Vegas or New York City or you're going out with your friends, the right amount of pleasure, because too much pleasure taken too far becomes its own kind of pain and punishment. its own kind of pain and punishment. Seneca said the only inexcusable thing for a leader to say is I did not think that could happen. But I think the other way we say this, we're not leaders as we go, oh I didn't think that could happen to me.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Of course we know it could happen, but we think averages, rules, laws, ad luck, it's something that happens to somebody else, to everybody else. Of course it won't happen to us, but it will happen to you. And the whole Stilic exercise of pre-meditasha morum is actively meditating on that, not like wishing yourself ill will, but the reason it's so inexcusable for a leader to say I did not think that could happen. By extension, admitting that you don't have a plan that you're not prepared. So Senika is saying that the blow that lands heaviest is the one that you don't expect. The one that you didn't think could happen. The one that you didn't think could happen.
Starting point is 00:07:25 The one that you didn't think would happen to you. So you must think that you must think that it could happen to you. That's how you have a plan. That's how you're prepared for it. That's how you're able to shrug it off and move forward and not be devastated by what happened. Of course, it's lovely to go on a trip. It's lovely to go cool places. But Senica warns us to make sure that Barrow Epicurus is praised that we're not fleeing ourselves.
Starting point is 00:07:48 He likens the way that we travel from this destination to that destination, this vacation, this exotic locale, one to the other to the other, trying to find happiness or peace or serenity, as if that's where we're going to find it, when in reality all of that is going to be on the inside. He likens it to the person tossing and turning in bed as if there's some magical comfortable place that don't finally fall asleep. You're never gonna find it. He says in the external things,
Starting point is 00:08:12 you have to look inward, you have to look to philosophy to find the piece by slowing down, by ceasing to move, by staying in one spot. Of course it's lovely to go on vacation, it's lovely to visit places, but you're never gonna find what you're looking for. Because, as Epicurus said, you're really not looking for anything
Starting point is 00:08:27 what you're actually doing is fleeing yourself, you're fleeing the problems. And wherever you go, you are there also. So you're not gonna find it on a trip, you're not gonna find an obligation, it's not gonna give you what I think it's gonna give you. You gotta look inward, you gotta do the work, find a design of life that you don't wanna run away from. So,
Starting point is 00:08:48 Kato is very strict with himself. He holds himself to the highest standards. But he has a brother who he adores, who isn't quite so strict. The son that his brother was a bad person or particularly out of control, is just his brother, for instance, wore perfume, which lots of Romans did. His brother enjoyed the wealth that they'd inherited
Starting point is 00:09:03 or his brother liked the limelight more than Kato. But Cato worshipped his brother. He loved his brother. It reminds me of that line from the Bruce Springsteen song, Sometimes When It's Your Brother, You Look the Other Way. Remember the Stoics? Cato marks the realist. They're strict with themselves, yes, but tolerant with others, right? They search themselves for vices, but they looked for the virtues in other people. Cato does this with his brother. Marcus really does this with his step brother, Lucius Varis, and it's what we have to do with the people in our life. It's called self-control, self-discipline. It's not something you get to project on to other people.
Starting point is 00:09:37 It doesn't do anything for Julius Caesar that they're still naming hotels after him. It doesn't do anything for Alexander the great that Alexandria is still named after him. Cause they're dead, right? Marcus really just reminds himself that those who long for posthumous fame forget that they won't be around to enjoy it.
Starting point is 00:09:53 It's the most ridiculous thing that we chase because it so often comes at the expense of happiness now, of being a good person now, doing what we should do now. The paradox of Marcus really says that, here's a guy who says, posthumous fame is worthless, that to be remembered is pointless
Starting point is 00:10:08 because you won't be able to enjoy it. And here we are talking about him 2,000 years later. But why? We don't remember his military conquest, which were enormous. We don't remember his fame or his wealth, which were enormous. We don't even know where he's buried,
Starting point is 00:10:21 but we remember about Marcus Aurelius. He's what he wrote down in meditations that he wasn't even know where he's buried. What we remember about Marcus Aurelius is what he wrote down in meditations that he wasn't even intending for publication. It was on the inner work. It was on focusing on being a better person. It was his philosophical thoughts that have survived. By focusing on the specific, not on accomplishing things, not on impressing other people,
Starting point is 00:10:38 not on performance, not on projecting some image that he's remembered. He's remembered because the good work he did on himself, he's remembered because of the perfection that he found in his soul. And that's what we want to remember. So the fact that Julius Caesar did these terrible things and Alexander the Great did these terrible things to become successful and powerful and thus remembered, not only did they disgrace themselves in life,
Starting point is 00:11:00 but it wasn't even worth it because they're not around to remember it. What's crazy about Epictetus is that he's a slave, but it wasn't even worth it because they're not around to remember it. What's crazy about Epictetus is that he's a slave, but he's a slave in the Emperor's palace, so he's surrounded by wealth and power, but he starts to realize that he's powerful, successful, rich people who are actually less free than he is. One day he watches a man sucking up to Nero's cobbler. He's trying to get in Nero's good graces by complimenting and being nice to his cobbler. That's one epic to you. This realizes that there's more than one form of slavery. Of course, the physical slavery that he was in was awful. But he realizes that freedom isn't about your legal status ultimately because so many people exist in a form of self-imposed slavery. He realize that these Romans are less free than he is, because they want more money,
Starting point is 00:11:48 they want more access, they want more power, they want to satiate their ambitious. If you realize this, this timeless philosophical truth, which is that freedom is something we give ourselves. That freedom comes from the inside. And often the most powerful, the most ambitious, the people you look up to are actually a lot less freer. Not just than you think, than that you would ever want to be. It's a crazy historical twist of fate. The Epic Titus and Senica are both in Nero's court at the same time. And they're experiencing a total opposite end to the spectrum.
Starting point is 00:12:19 Obviously, Epic Titus is a lowly slave, and Senica is Nero's number one advisor, one of the most powerful men in Rome. But they both understand how impoverished everyone around them is. Not the core of Rome, but the powerful in Rome are incredibly poor because as Cenna says, being poor isn't just having too little. It's also craving more.
Starting point is 00:12:40 So Cenna can Epicetus both see how desperate, how hungry, how much these people in Neuroscourt need, they need approval, they need fame, they need recognition, they need access, they need more money than they have even though they already have so much. There's one thing that Epictetus witnesses, she's a man walk up to Neuros, he's basically down to my last million dollars and Neuros says, oh my God, are you okay? How could you bear that? And that's when Epic Titus realizes that these are the least free people of all.
Starting point is 00:13:08 And he realizes that although he's legally in chains, he could be far freer than they are if he can free himself from these desires and cravings and wants this desperation, which characterizes not just people 2,000 years ago, but so much today as well. Tendika says that life is long if you know how to use it. What does he mean by using it? I think he's really referring to not wasting time,
Starting point is 00:13:32 which is what we do, we waste time on so many frivolous, ridiculous things trying to impress other people, trying to rack up things that they're just gonna throw away when we die. If you know how to manage your time, your most precious resource in the world, life is plenty long, but the problem is, most people aren't even alive. They're just drifting. They go from one temptation to the other, one opportunity to the other. They're just being drug-alonged by
Starting point is 00:13:55 their urges or what other people are doing. And then they look back on their life and they go, where did the time go? It went to the things that don't really matter. time go, it went to the things that don't really matter. I've gotten recognized a few times since I've been here in Vegas and it's obviously flattering and nice. It's better than the alternative, of course, as an author that nobody knows about your work and nobody cares. But before you let it gratify your ego, I try to remember this thing that marks the release of some editations.
Starting point is 00:14:20 He goes, applause, being recognized. He says, this is just like the smacking of hands or the smacking of tongues, right? That it's meaningless. It doesn't mean anything. And he says, take a minute when you get recognized, when you get adored, when you get praised by someone. He says, think about the other things that that person likes. Think about what that person just did in private
Starting point is 00:14:37 a few seconds ago. And the point is not to suck all the fun out of life. It's to knock yourself down a peg when people are trying to raise you up. It's to try to humble yourself a little bit. To remember that these things that we chase that gratifies the platter of the ego are ephemeral at best, worthless, in truth, and that you don't want to let it get to, you don't want to let it puff you up. And you just want to stay as it says, focused unswervingly on the finish line. You're not care about anything else.
Starting point is 00:15:07 Why do people have conferences in Las Vegas? I think it's because dudes like to cheat on their wives or do other stuff that they couldn't get away with at home. That's the slogan, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. But the Stokes say that's not true at all. The expression was that when you do something difficult, the labor disappears, but the good remains, the Stokes say. But they say when you do something that in pursuit of pleasure, the pleasure disappears quickly, but the shame endures.
Starting point is 00:15:30 In Meditations, Marcus really reminds himself not to be cesarified, not to be stained purple by the cloak of the emperor. That, I think, is the ultimate reminder that what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Nobody knows, it's my little secret, I do it in private. You're still stained by that shame of it, right? You're still shamed by what you did. Look, if you got to come here for work, you got to come here for work.
Starting point is 00:15:52 But just try to be the same person that you would be if people were watching you, if they knew what you were doing. Kano walked around Rome, bare headed. He walked bare foot. He wore a thin toga, even though he was quite wealthy. He dressed as if he was not, and he was okay standing alone, looking different, being judged, being misunderstood. This wasn't just for fun.
Starting point is 00:16:15 This wasn't just kind of tourism in a different way of life. What Keino is actually doing, I think, is preparing for the moment when it really counts. When he has to stand alone against Caesar, when he has to stand alone against corruption, when he has to stand alone against the decadence of his time, he's practiced this. He's prepared for it. How he's lived his whole life. He doesn't care that he's getting sideways glances. He doesn't care that people are criticizing him. He doesn't care that people are doubting him. He doesn't care that people are saying what he's doing is pointless and silly and it doesn't mean anything and that he should just go along with everyone else. No, he's practiced this. He's prepared for it. He's made it a daily habit, which is what we have to do to prepare for a moment like that
Starting point is 00:16:50 in our own lives. It starts with the little choices, right? The decision to get up early, the decision to go work out, the decision to not check your phone first thing in the morning. The decision to eat well instead of eating something crappy, right? The decision to get down and do your work instead of procrastinating. Epic Titus says, if you want to be beautiful, make beautiful choices. And I think about that all the time.
Starting point is 00:17:14 Am I making the good choice? Am I making the lazy choice? Am I making the short term choice or the long term choice? Make good choices. And it gets you where you want to go. Zeno says that well being is realized by small steps, but it's no small thing. Those little choices matter and it starts there.
Starting point is 00:17:31 In fact, it starts with the time that you decide to wake up. There's a story about an Athenian statesman who goes to dinner at Play Do's house. And he says, you know what I love about your dinner's Play Do? It's that I still love them the day after. Meaning that he didn't hate himself. He wasn't sick. He didn't have a hangover. That there was just the right amount there of food, of wine, of fun, people. I think there's this stereotype that the stokes don't have any fun. It's totally wrong. The stoke, virtue, is temperance,
Starting point is 00:17:58 moderation is the right amount. No things in excess. All things in moderation. That's what it is. I'm sure everyone's experience is, when you take a good thing too far, it ceases to be a good thing. It makes you unhappy, makes you miserable, you have regrets later. You have pounds to lose, you do things that get you into trouble. The Stokes have plenty of fun, they just have the right amount of fun, and they don't take it too far. too far. If you want to learn more about Stoic philosophy, totally for free, you can sign up for a daily Stoic email.
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