The Daily Stoic - You Might Never Be Famous — And That’s O.K.

Episode Date: March 10, 2020

Marcus Aurelius talked a lot about fame. He called it a worthless clacking of tongues and liked to point out things like how few people remember the emperors who preceded him, or how the gene...rations to come will be the same annoying people he knows now. It’s easy to picture him writing these things in times where he caught himself falling for the allure of fame, of power, of how history might remember him. Don’t we all fall for it? It is alluring. But if we’re honest with ourselves, it isn’t the fame we really want. it’s the validation that our lives are meaningful. Praise, recognition, millions of followers on Instagram, we think, are proof that we matter. And until we get those things, we’re not always so sure we do.Emily Esfahani Smith wrote an amazing piece in the New York Times, titled “You’ll Never Be Famous — And That’s O.K.”. Reminding us of Marcus in the way Emily too said that fame is a foolish pursuit and not where meaning lies, we reached out to her for an interview. We asked Emily for advice on finding meaning—and how Stoicism can help us get there. She shared the opinion of the 20th-century psychologist Erik Erikson, who said that a flourishing, meaningful life is one of “generativity”: “When we’re young, we’re supposed to figure out who we are and what our purpose is. As we get older, we’re supposed to shift the focus from ourselves to others and be ‘generative.’ That is, we’re supposed to give back, especially to younger generations, by doing things like raising children, mentoring colleagues, creating things of value for our community or society at large, volunteering, etc. We each have the power to be generative. Fame and glamour are about the self—aggrandizing yourself. But generativity is about connecting and contributing to something bigger, which is the very definition of leading a meaningful life.”It’s the Rick Warren line, “Humility is not thinking less of yourself, but thinking of yourself less.” There’s that silly thing that floats around the internet from time to time about how few people can name a gold medalist from the last Winter Olympics, but everyone can name that third grade teacher, that childhood neighbor, who changed your life. It’s the people we touch singularly. That’s the real test. That’s where you make your mark. Let that be today’s great and simple pursuit: positively impact one person’s day. That’s it. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:45 greatest men and women. For more, you can visit us at dailystowach.com. You might never be famous, and that's okay. Marcus Aurelius talked a lot about fame. He called it a worthless clacking of tongues, and liked to point out things like how few people remember the emperors who preceded him, or how the generations to come will be the same annoying people he knows now. It's easy to picture him writing these things in times where he caught himself
Starting point is 00:01:16 falling for the allure of fame, of power, and of how history might remember him. Don't we all fall for it? It is alluring, but if we're honest with ourselves, it isn't fame we really want. It's the validation that our lives are meaningful. Praise, recognition, millions of followers on Instagram, we think are proof that we matter and until we get those things, we're not always so sure that we do. Emily Esfani Smith wrote an amazing piece in the New York Times titled, You'll Never Be Famous, and that's okay. Reminding us of Marcus Aurelius, Emily too said that fame is a foolish pursuit and not-where-meaning lies, and so we reached out to her for an interview.
Starting point is 00:01:56 We asked Emily for advice on finding meaning and how stoicism can help us get there. She shared the opinion of 20th century psychologist Eric Erickson, who said that a flourishing meaningful life is one of generativity. He said, when we're young, we're supposed to figure out who we are and what our purpose is, as we get older, we're supposed to shift the focus from ourselves to others and be generative. As Emily said, we're supposed to give back, especially to younger generations, by doing things like raising children, mentoring colleagues, creating things of value for our community or society at large, volunteering, etc. We each have the power to be generative.
Starting point is 00:02:37 Fame and glamour are all about the self, a grandizing yourself, but generativity is about connecting and contributing to something bigger, which is the very definition of leading a meaningful life. It's the CS Lewis line, humility is not thinking less of yourself, but thinking about yourself less. There's that silly thing that floats around the internet from time to time about how few people can name a gold medalist from the last winter Olympics, but everyone can name their third grade teacher,
Starting point is 00:03:05 that childhood neighbor who changed your life. It's the people we touch singularly. That's the real test. That's where you make your mark. So let that be today's great and simple pursuit. Positively impact one person's day. That's it. If you like the podcast that we do here and you want to get it via email every
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