The Daily Stoic - You Must Surrender

Episode Date: September 16, 2019

One way to read The Odyssey is that it’s a story of human perseverance. Odysseus is cunning and determined, he’s willing to do everything and anything to get back to Ithaca...and eventual...ly, because of that, he finally does. That’s certainly the interpretation of Tennyson in his poem “Ulysses”:“We are not now that strength which in old days Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts, Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.”But there is also a way to read The Odyssey as illustrating the exact opposite lesson. Because basically every delay and impediment on Odysseus’s long journey home is completely his fault. He says he wants to get back to Ithaca, and then proceeds to constantly undermine himself. It’s only towards the end, when he finally stops and actually listens to the gods (most of whom favor him) that he quickly makes any real progress. In fact, they finally come out and tell him this when Odysseus tries to argue with their instructions for surviving Scylla and Charybdis (he wants to stand and fight, they tell him to dart through). “Goddess, please, tell me the truth, is there no other way?" Odysseus pleads. The goddess answers, "No, you fool! Your mind is still obsessed with deeds of war. But now you must surrender to the gods."Marcus Aurelius talked about practicing the “art of acquiescence.” Seneca and Epictetus spoke often about surrendering to fate—understanding that we are not in control, accepting that there is a larger plan for us spelled out in the logos. It seems like resignation, and it’s a very scary thing for us to try. So most people don’t. We refuse to yield, like Odysseus, and we never end up getting where we want to go.The concept of Amor Fati is quite paradoxical. It’s acceptance fused with determination. It’s the ability to go along and make the best of something—even if every ounce of your being would rather stand and fight. It seems crazy, but it works. Because there is more at work behind the scenes than we know. There is a bigger picture we cannot see. And even if there wasn’t, the universe is much stronger than we are.That’s why it’s better to flow with it than impotently resist it.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, prime members, you can listen to the Daily Stoke podcast early and add free on Amazon music. Download the app today. Welcome to the Daily Stoke. For each day, we read a short passage designed to help you cultivate the strength, insight, wisdom necessary for living good life. insight, wisdom necessary for living good life. Each one of these passages is based on the 2000-year-old philosophy that has guided some of history's greatest men and women. For more, you can visit us at dailystoic.com. You must surrender. One way to read the Odyssey is that it's a story of human perseverance. Odysseus is cunning and determined. He's willing to do everything and anything to get back to Ithaca, and eventually because of that, finally does. That's certainly the interpretation of Tennyson in his poem, Ulysses. We are not now that strength
Starting point is 00:01:00 which in old days moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are. One equal temper of heroic hearts made weak by time and fate, but strong and will to strive to seek, to find, and not to yield. But there is also a way to read the Odyssey as illustrating the exact opposite lesson, because basically every delay and impediment on Odysseus' long journey is completely his fault. He says he wants to get back to Ithaca
Starting point is 00:01:32 and then proceeds to constantly undermine himself. It's only towards the end when he finally stops and actually listens to the gods, most of whom who favor him, that he quickly makes any real progress. In fact, they finally come out and tell him this when Odysseus tries to argue with their instructions for surviving Silla and Charbittus. He wants to stand in fight, they tell him to dart through. Goddess, please tell me the truth, Odysseus pleads, is there no other way?
Starting point is 00:02:06 The goddess answers, no you fool, your mind is still obsessed with deeds of war, but now you must surrender to the gods." Marcus Aurelius talked about practicing the art of acquiescence. Seneca and Epictetus spoke often about surrendering to fate, understanding that we are not in control, accepting that there is a larger plan spelled out in the logos. It seems like resignation and it's a very scary thing for us to try. So most people don't. We refuse to yield like Odysseus and we will never end up getting where we want to go. The concept of a more faati is quite paradoxical. It's acceptance fused with determination. It's the ability to go along and make the best of something even if every ounce in our being would rather stand in fight, it seems crazy, but it works.
Starting point is 00:03:07 Because there is more at work behind the scenes than we know, there is a bigger picture we cannot see. And even if there wasn't, the universe is much stronger than we are. And that's why it's better to flow with it than impotently resist it. In exciting news, we now have an obstacle is the way pendant. If you want to carry this idea with you everywhere you go, it's a necklace you can wear. It says the obstacle is the way in the front.
Starting point is 00:03:35 It has a mountain path carved through the steep mountain up to the top. And on the back, it has that quote from Marcus really is the impediment to action, advances action action with stands in the way becomes the way you can check it out at daily still com slash store. Hey, Prime Members, you can listen to the Daily Stoic early and ad-free on Amazon Music, download the Amazon Music app today, or you can listen early and ad-free with Wondery Plus in Apple Podcasts.

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