The Daily Zeitgeist - 3.1415Zeit 3/14: Dinner Party, Tom Brady, Elon Musk, Ginni Thomas, Whopper Melt, Rand Paul
Episode Date: March 14, 2022In this edition of 3.1415Zeit, Jack and Miles discuss charging guests after a dinner party, Tom Brady returning to the Bucs, Elon Musk challenging Putin to 'single combat', Ginni Thomas admitting she ...was at the Jan. 6th rally, the new Whopper Melt, and Rand Paul trying to eliminate Dr. Fauci's position!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of 3.1415 Zayite, aka Pi Day, TGIP.
Thank God it's Pi Day.
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That 3.1415 Zayite Pi Day, aka is courtesy of who else?
Johnny Davis. I am Jack. That over there? Well, a.k.a. is courtesy of who else? Johnny Davis.
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Well, that's Miles.
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That balled up mess in the corner?
That's Miles. That fell right there?
Well, now you're talking about my friend Miles.
And these, well, these are some things that are trending.
There's been an ongoing conversation about uh whether it's bad form
to charge your guests after a dinner party this you know one of my favorite tweets from last week
yeah amber nelson uh tweeted got invited to someone's place for dinner and they charged me
for it this is weird right um and that developed a little bit more, huh?
I didn't even look through the thread to understand what the dimensions were of this tweet.
And I was just like, that's bad form.
You don't invite people over and then charge them.
People were like, what did you eat?
Right, exactly.
Was it like A5 Wagyu beef?
They were saying that it was homemade pasta.
They ate a couple plates of
penne alla vodka and the host venmoed them for 20 no yeah 20 for homemade penne alla vodka
yeah you can make that shit if you went if i went to the grocery store right now i could cook i
could do like at least seven people's worth for that amount of money. Yeah. But if you go to the restaurant and get two helpings of it,
unless you're talking,
unless you're talking for Zoli's or,
and do you know for Zoli's?
That was,
that was the fast food chain.
Italian food was like foreign enough that they had like a fast food,
like a McDonald's for Italian food.
So wait,
you get like a styrofoam thing, aald's for italian food wait so wait you get
like a styrofoam thing a spaghetti and you know the big ziti was good wait hold on how would they
serve it up to you like in a you know like styrofoam serving boxes and shit like or do they
have their own like what you get chipotle food and you know where you get a chipotle bowl and
that's and it's drive-thru for zolies i think they had drive-thru which is more like kind of like a
subaru kind of fast a sabaro kind of
fast italian type shit i'd say that was dangerous except down south they also have drive-through
liquor stores so right right right so who's really the snowflaker right
um but anyways that's it's yeah it's not a good price for a dinner party it's not a bad price for a restaurant
so it's a they shot in between that's but that what is that but you can understand right when
a restaurant charges you the money like what all that it's not just beyond hey dry noodles at the
store only cost this much plus a little sauce i mean we're looking at eight
bucks max here but you get that there's they got to pay the staff they got overhead costs they got
like the prestige of it being a restaurant that factored into the pricing i don't understand was
this person like a michelin starred chef and then therefore they felt that because that feels just
wacky yeah i did i did not dig into what what the uh bona fides of the chef, of the host was.
I think it's definitely rude.
Yeah, no.
It's not okay.
You can't do that.
On the other hand, were you to start a trend where it was like, after a dinner party, everybody
gets charged based on what they brought
to the dinner party in terms of like well you had you had that great anecdote about that time you
met ted danson and oh shit he was he was really drunk so i'm gonna i'm gonna give you five dollars
off uh i'm gonna charge you fifteen dollars you brought just yourself uh. So you're 20 and you were a energy vampire. So we're going to charge you $40 because everybody left just fucking exhausted from you giving them like five different Wikipedia pages, dry background information on random topics that crop up yeah and right after larry
talked about his good news at his job you just started exasperatingly like exhaling trying to
get everyone's attention just like oh and no one no one was biting because they know you're just
gonna do something self-serving and then finally when they bit you then just brought the
whole energy down well if you gotta know nobody but nobody bit you just said well if you gotta
know nobody even asked you that's that's actually you know what hit me with 50 for that i'm
redistributing that i'm actually gonna offset the cost of the other people with that energy vampire
move you pulled back there but um i mean the only time you can
do it right is like you either have a potluck where you're like yo let's have a thing but like
you know i'm just i this was i used to do this all the time when i have money you say oh let's
let's do something but like i can make one thing and like if everybody brings something that we
have like a little thing i don't i'm not caked up enough to go buy all the food for like all
these people here yeah or people bring alcohol or other dessert
or whatever but you have to you have to be up front the only time i've done it was like a should
we all go in on like a big piece of meat or something to roast and also like i don't have
the money to buy it up front hit me with it so i can go to the store and get it ahead of time sure
yeah ahead of time or the other thing that i've done where i split is if like
you're at someone's house and then you're like you guys want to stay for dinner like maybe we
could order from this place and then everybody like is making the decision together and then
it's like a group decision and then exactly and then even in those moments you'll have the friend
that say hey you know what like i'm not really eating out right now i'm just trying to save some
money and then you go okay that's cool that's cool that's cool just like look i got you i got
you i got you oh unless they're trying to pull scam i mean yeah you know oh man i just make them
leave out of my sight oh anyways let us know uh if you if you haven't already you know weigh in
yeah i mean if i want more stories i want more stories of people getting
charged i know like petty yo i'm not uh i don't know if i should say this i don't think they
listen anyway i know somebody who like they're so on top of like little charges they'll venmo you
shit that's like really specific amounts they're like it's 238 2.38 because i split this one thing and i noticed you
had that i've been hit with some very specific venmo charts before but like ones where it was
like so it was such a small amount that it was just more confusing it didn't feel like oh so
now i'm paying for your shit it was more like okay. I figured we were all kind of splitting this thing, but sure.
Hey, specificity, it's how stores get away with doing that.
You know?
Yeah.
Like $9.99, not $10.
We figured out it was just $9.99.
Right there.
Because we know exactly how much this costs.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's on sale.
It's on sale from $8.
Well, here's some good news tom brady is
not really retiring uh he's back we're all so happy um that we spent our time and attention
talking about how he was great and the greatest and the gold bro yeah it's funny man you like it that they experience that that life of you know people
looking at them with a little less interest than before right still a a level of interest that uh
i have never experienced and couldn't couldn't imagine where people are just like holy shit
he's not even retired fucking six months that was he wasn't
retired for like three months i think i know i'm trying to give him some sound make it sound
something decent but look it happens to everybody jay michael jordan right you know you think just
when you think you got out yeah ego pulls you right back um so here here we go he's back the people of tampa bay are psyched um and we'll see where
we go new england fans who he somehow erased from his career yeah what what they do for him i don't
know why like that's like the one thing i remember because i don't even give a fuck about the nfl
like that but i was like damn he didn't say anything about the bj's fuck okay salt uh elon It's like, fuck. Okay, salt. Elon is trending. Fuck.
The Musk man.
He's got a solution.
Yeah, to everything.
But he's inserted himself into the middle of it.
Yeah, make himself the star of any global important storyline that he possibly can.
And this is his stupidest attempt yet.
This is coming off a week he tweeted something of like jokingly about how like netflix is making some like woke movie about like a black ukrainian
soldier who falls in love with like a trans russian soldier it was like like oh he's on his
shit posting nonsense again and then even posted like another just he's he's just posting just
shit posting you know i don't know what maybe he heard heard that Grimes is now with Chelsea Manning and that kind of set some shit off for him this weekend.
I don't know.
But he tweeted in Russian saying, I hereby challenge Vladimir Putin to single combat.
And then he added with the stakes being Ukraine.
And then he said, do you agree to this fight?
Hmm.
I wonder if Ukraine agrees to this fight.
I think they would not agree.
Yeah, they were like, nah, man.
Have you seen his judo skills?
You don't want anything to do with him.
But yeah, I don't know.
It's just more shit posting.
And then some person from the Russian space agency,
like replied with some like Maxim about like,
you were too,
still too small and a waste of my time defeat my brother.
And then I will consider it type shit.
And then Elon just really,
if you needed more proof,
like that,
this guy sucks and doesn't know shit about anything.
I don't know. I don't know what else to say yeah
I'm just trying to get to the headspace where
this seemed like a good idea other than like
if it's a bit is
the joke that he's a
rich asshole who's completely out of touch
with the world or
I don't know it's very Tony Stark ish
right you know it's like hey
thing causing the world strife why don't know it's very tony starkish right you know it's like hey thing causing the world strife
why don't you fight me the guy with the bird chest has a history of fighting things and
defeating them oh i can break the will of child laborers who worked in my parents die emerald
minds so what how does he think we view him is kind of the question that this Elon Musk is
the first guy I would pick out to be,
to do like a fight to make me look good.
Right?
Yeah.
He's,
I'm guessing he has some like live in boxing trainer who lives like in his
guest house and he has been telling him that he has like a killer left hook.
Right.
And calls him champ all the time when they're doing like, he has like a killer left hook right and calls him
champ all the time when they're doing like he's like on speed bags or he's hitting the fucking
pads like oh shit look at that combo now oh damn okay and that's where that's where you knock me
out right there that right that was it glass jaw cinder block jaw i'm going down if i take that
one it doesn't matter doesn't matter who you hit you do you really could be vladimir really
say that last part again hey brother i'm not gonna lie to you elon i never seen some shit
like this and then that guy goes he goes you should see this shit man i just get i get real
black with him telling him how he's a champ and shit he starts paying me more it's fucked up but
look all my kids college is paid for and they're only five years old so yeah oh what's up man all
right all right champ all right champ i feel like that's what he's been fucking deceived by his boxing coach somebody too
much compliments somebody in his life needs to like have a talk with him and they're not going
to but like that is that that is a a piece of advice that is probably 10 years old right or
this could be another weird fucking moment like i say
kanye couldn't stand the sight of pete davidson with his the mother of his children and maybe
the chelsea manning news from the weekend really completely blew his mind right yeah you heard about
that right did you did you keep up with that part of the internet i did not but i did hear about it
because i saw that it was on uh trending on yeah yeah yeah and so that's that's why we were just trying to figure out what
who what do they what what is it i'm what do they talk about i'm more curious about like
who's gonna pull who in which direction like does chelsea manning pull grimes a certain way
does grimes pull chelsea manning way. Anyway, but he wanted to save Ukraine
with his fists.
Fuck.
That's very funny.
What does he do, right?
If Vladimir Putin says, okay, bet.
Meet me in Minsk.
And then like, yeah.
People from Ukraine
would have to like
block him with their body like yeah he's
like right like we don't want that shit man you're not what yeah putin's like tagging at
zelensky ua on twitter being like you seen this you good with this because i will i will dope
like a madman before he did putin is so doped up and just like he's like yo his he i think he cut like 40 pounds
of like water weight he's all you see all his veins he's like you can see his heart beating
in his fucking thighs i don't know he comes through looking like that general with the
scar on his face from avatar in that like giant mech oh yeah exactly that was by the way the first avatar
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oh so she was doing a like this like puff piece with this conservative paper i forget like the
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heard before because i'm from the year 2000 and when did avatar come out 2009 uh whopper melt is trending uh yeah so burger king they're honing the the focus of the of their
marketing department to just the whopper the one thing that like people are like yeah i guess
that's the thing we know you for they're they're no longer trying to introduce all this new shit
and they've released something called the whopper melt, which is two Whopper Jr. patties stacked on what amounts to what the reviewer whose review I read described as Texas toast.
You know, white.
A lot of people think a melt comes on rye, I think, is the normal bread of choice.
Right, like a patty melt.
Yeah, yeah. uh rye i think is the normal bread of choice but right like a patty melt yeah yeah yeah but that's
it's a little too non sort of mid mid it's not western it's yeah yeah it's not broad you can't
please people are gonna be like what the fuck it tastes like seeds and i get it i was like that
with rye bread too i hated the fucking fennel seeds in it until like my palate evolved i'm like
oh no it all it all works together.
The sandwich also features melted American cheese, caramelized onions,
stacker sauce, which is just, you know, Thousand Island dressing.
Yeah, mayonnaise and ketchup mixed up.
We get that.
But the takeout is giving this a flat A, straight up giving it an A.
They said it's very good.
What?
Yeah.
Okay.
I don't know, man.
It sounds good to me, first of all, because it reduces, like the one thing that's good
about the Whopper is generally the patty right like the kind of charbroiled taste of the patty that they concoct via a galaxy of chemicals i'm sure but and then
you know just give me any burger patty with american cheese i'm generally pretty pretty
happy on a on a nice piece of yeah lily and stone at the takeout okay yeah pick your brain lily um so anyways uh just putting it
on your radar in case you're trying to find the next uh fast food concoction to slowly kill
yourself with yeah trying to know your co-workers with non-stop farting uh and finally ram paul
is trending um well i don't know, man.
He's so petty.
This guy, first of all, Rand Paul is a doctor,
but he's, like, I think an eye doctor who's, like,
I think he's been, like, sued.
Anyway, Rand Paul thinks, fancies himself a doctor.
Sure.
And he's also, you know, he's one of these conservatives
who's made, like, hating Dr. Fauci,
like, his whole fucking personality and identity
and brand because it makes sense like for a while it was easy points to be like and fauci wants to
blah blah blah like no it's not the whatever we can we can argue why they're wrong all day
but he has introduced an amendment that essentially is trying to reorganize the
national institute of allergy infectious and infectious diseases so to essentially like to reorganize the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases
to essentially eliminate Dr. Fauci's position as the director of it.
So, petty bill straight for his neck being like,
and with this bill that won't pass, you won't even be a thing anymore.
Because that'll stop all belief in science.
It's just Fauci is no longer at the national
whatever i mean the fauci hate has grown you know he put his body in front of uh in a position
that was going to get a lot of hate and i i hear it from a lot of people now that uh i would not
have expected to hear from like people who aren't anti-vaxxers who are like, but this guy, his messaging was all fucked up.
And it's like, well, you know.
Are you like three sentences away from using a racial slur or something?
Freezing was all fucked up.
Like, whoa, easy, easy, easy.
But it's, yeah, this just feels like the laziest possible political position to take.
feels like the laziest possible political position to take it's well again it it it underscores the fact that conservatives have no real political agenda aside from turning the
clock back to like 1863 yeah like white supremacy authoritarianism and what and when white supremacy
was king man why can't we bring back king cotton please like that's what
they're like i would like to actually reorganize our government to a monarchy where we all uh lay
at the feet of king cotton like like our ancestors did but it's just it there's no there's no world
view aside from just tear down whatever like progress has been made so in this case he's just
being like what if there was no dr fauci okay what
yeah not what if we were able to have better pandemic response or research but again that's
too progressive and that requires like putting things into like knowledge or having like sympathy
for people who can't work and getting behind like stimulus checks to keep people financially afloat
when we're asking people to not work when there's a pandemic like that those are solutions but i don't
think there's a way for them to do that without them like self-owning like their whole platform
which is to absolutely not help anybody right and even then it's like i know you're struggling
and i know and when you know they're at these rallies they could be saying i know you're
struggling i know times are hard and it's never that's why i'm trying to get y'all some more money
to make it easier it's just pivot two and that's how we got to get fucking fauci out of here yep
there it is boom done you can't do you can't actually solve someone you couldn't just look
at a group of people even that they i bet you even if hey, man, wouldn't some more money be good? They'd be like, fuck yeah.
Fuck yeah.
If it was a binary between probably more checks or Fauci out,
I think people would ask for the financial support.
But it depends on if there's a camera on them.
If there's a camera on them, they'd be like, I don't need it. Watch me burn this check.
It's just that damn Dr. Fauci.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, those are six things that are trending on this Monday, Pi Day of March.
We are back tomorrow with the whole last episode of the show.
Until then, be kind to each other.
Be kind to yourselves.
Get the vaccine.
Don't do nothing about white supremacy.
And we will talk to you all tomorrow.
Bye.
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