The Daily Zeitgeist - American Movies Horny For Farms, Pandemic Friends 8.31.20

Episode Date: August 31, 2020

In episode 705, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and Ruined podcast co-host Halle Kiefer to discuss pandemic friendships, LA coming up with criminal charges for Hollywood Hills parties, more accu...sations against the Falwell family from Liberty University students, 1BR, The Lost Husband, and more!FOOTNOTES: Lockdown may have lasting effects on friendships LA Draws Up Plan To File Criminal Charges Over Hollywood Hills Parties The LAPD Officer Who Shot Daniel Hernandez Is a Firearms Influencer—and Daughter of a Powerful Police Union Figure Liberty University graduate claims Jerry Falwell Jr.'s wife Becki climbed into bed and performed oral sex on him when he stayed at their home after band practice with their son in 2008 WATCH: C.K.Mann - Asafo Beeson Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:20 America's shared consciousness and say officially off the top, fuck the Koch brothers, fuck Fox News, fuck Rush Limbaugh, fuck the Koch brothers, fuck Fox News, fuck Rush Limbaugh, fuck Buck Sexton, fuck Ben Shapiro, and fuck Tucker Carlson. I have sex. It's Monday, August
Starting point is 00:02:35 31st, 2020. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. I don't wear a mask because I'm dumb. That is courtesy of Christy Amaguchi-Maine. And I am thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Some trumper once told me face masks don't really help me. I ain't the sharpest tool in the shed.
Starting point is 00:03:02 She was looking kind of dumb with no source of real income and a MAGA hat on her forehead. Well, the chills start coming and they don't stop coming. Felt a loose stool and I hit the bathroom running. Did it make sense not to go to Sturgis till your brain gets hot and fever emerges? So hard to breathe, so much fatigue, so now I can't smell or taste a thing. You'd never be sick if you don't go. You only had to wear a mask, you know. Hey now, you're a spreader from
Starting point is 00:03:31 a Smash Mouth concert. Hey now, you got COVID on a ventilator. And all that shit you were told only gonna keep you from growing alone okay now that
Starting point is 00:03:48 wasn't aka it wasn't even written for this show that was written by I believe let me just pull this tweet up from Eric Champanella and it was brought to my attention by at J Repco Paul from the Zeitgang thank you so much for that one
Starting point is 00:04:03 Champanella. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious, the talented Hallie Kiefer. Gentlemen, you know, it's crazy. I had tickets to Sergis, and I was just going to head out, and I thought, I can't be the person. You know, I can't be the one who brings it. So I hope everyone had a great time.
Starting point is 00:04:26 See you next year. What are you riding? What kind of hog you riding on these days, Allie? Oh, man. You know, just a big hog. I was going to try to bullshit. I don't know anything about motorcycles. I definitely went with a sidecar.
Starting point is 00:04:38 If I have a motorcycle, I say you got to go full sidecar with the wind goggles, a leather cap, and a scarf. Oh, a big long scarf. Yeah. I remember I asked to ride in a sidecar for like a birthday when I was a kid. I was like, I want to be in a sidecar. Because I feel like it was in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade. And I was like, oh, yeah, man, this is dope. Like Sean Connery's hiding in this sidecar.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Never got that ride, though. Did Robin in the Adam West one ride in motorcycle and sidecar? I feel like that feels right. Yeah, it feels right, but I don't know if that's true because that seems very, a bad look for any superhero
Starting point is 00:05:21 to be in the sidecar. Like that feels too... It seems like Robin should have his own like bird cycle or whatever. Is he named after Robin the bird? He must be, right? Robin Leach, I believe. Oh, Robin Leach. I do like as a kid, you were still like,
Starting point is 00:05:41 you tempered your expectations. You weren't like, I want to ride a motorcycle. You're like, I'd like someone else to ride a motorcycle and I'll be sitting in a chair attached to it. I'm not ready for that cycling stuff. Alright, Hallie, we're going to get to know you
Starting point is 00:05:55 a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about today. We're going to talk about Pandemic Friends, the sequel to Kanye West's Real Friends. How many of us? the things we're talking about today uh we're going to talk about uh pandemic friends uh the sequel to kanye west real friends how many of us we're going to talk about uh hollywood hills parties facing legal trouble uh we will talk about uh sturgis briefly uh just what the latest is two kanye tracks going we got no Kanye tracks going on. We got No More Parties in LA. We got Pandemic Friends.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Pandemic Friends. Of Pandemic Pablo, Pandemlo. Yeah, those were both the singles that he dropped before Life of Pablo, too. Those were the first two songs. Okay, got a theme going. He was on to something. So next up is
Starting point is 00:06:41 Donald Trump for President, right? That's right. Yeah yeah so we got uh we got smash mouth smish mouth coming at you we are going to talk about becky falwell man oh gosh wow more uh i guess accusations coming out of the woodwork from young men. We're going to talk about One BR and The Lost Husband, the two Netflix top ten, top teners that we rewatched. Hallie, did you watch either of these? You know, I have not completely finished
Starting point is 00:07:18 One Bedroom, but I've been enjoying it so far. And I had never heard of The Lost Husband. And now I Googled it. I was like, how did I not know? You'll tell me whether it's good or not. I will. How did I miss this? Well, it's the most watched movie on Netflix of August.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Damn. And it is mostly footage from depression and allergy medication ads is what it kind of looks like. Wow. It's really strange. It really is indistinguishable. And then there's some car ads thrown in there. And at one point, they're gardening,
Starting point is 00:07:57 so there's an arthritis ad also, arthritis medication ad. I would have thought the algorithm would have brought this to me based on that, like allergies and depression. I should have been shown that as soon as I went on Netflix. But it sounds like based on you guys' feedback on One Bedroom that there are some similar themes at work about cities
Starting point is 00:08:21 and the evil that lurks there. So we'll talk about that. I've had a very specific view of what this film was trying to say, but I think that's just me being goofy and the, you know, plot being nebulous enough that I can bend it to be whatever I want it to be about. Bend it like Beckham,
Starting point is 00:08:39 a footballer, right? Thank you. Thank you. Oh yeah. We all remember that movie. Great. Yep.
Starting point is 00:08:47 Worth a rewatch. Sorry. I'm a big football fan, as you can tell. Because I know who Beckham is. Massive. Massive football fan. What club do you support, mate? Oh, all of them. Barca? Is that one?
Starting point is 00:09:03 The Nymets are my favorite squad run uh but first hallie we like to ask our guests what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are so um i i did tweet about this uh for my google history i just uh googled the words kevin. I didn't, I didn't, what I really was looking up is Kevin Smith, the director, lost a lot of weight eating a vegan diet. And I've been sort of thinking about, so I wanted to watch a video encouraging me, you know, to eat a vegan diet.
Starting point is 00:09:37 And I just, but instead of Googling that, which would have been more helpful, I just Googled his name and thought, well, maybe it'll come up. And it gave me some information one that he had died and uh and then so that was sort of like when did he die how did he die kevin smith the director is not dead of course but but google is giving me these answers and also all the photos that google's showing me are of kevin smith the. And so it said he died in, I believe, 2002.
Starting point is 00:10:07 And then the third question down, you know, it says like people also ask, it says, why did Kevin Smith die? Which I thought was like a very strange way to put it. Even if he had been dead, like the why of it seems about definitely. It's the first question a lot of us ask after someone dies. Why?
Starting point is 00:10:22 That's true. And then it just said the word accident. And I was like, so not only does it say he had died decades ago at this point, but that he had died of an accident. And then I tweeted this and someone said, oh, it's actually an actor who was on Xena the Warrior Princess,
Starting point is 00:10:39 who also happened to have, which is, Kevin Smith is a very common name, of course. But it's just interesting that like, there was no clarification. There were not full sentences. Like Google did not say, Oh, were you talking about this actor who died two decades ago that I,
Starting point is 00:10:53 sorry to him, but I can't imagine people are Googling that often. Or do you mean the still living film director? So it was just sort of like, had I not known, I'd be like, Oh, well,
Starting point is 00:11:02 Kevin Smith, the director died. That's too bad. Why? Oh, it says accident. I don't need to, the director died. That's too bad. Why? Oh, it says accident. I don't need to know any more information. Accident.
Starting point is 00:11:08 Great. You know, that's all I wanted. So I think for me, it was like, first of all, my Google search was dumb, but also I got bad results. So I think that's that is where I'm at as a person. Yeah. Right. Sometimes when I'm exhausted, I will do some sloppy Googling just because like I know it's sloppy and I'm just like, fuck it. Just give me give me the distraction. I Google in.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Yeah. Do a little sloppy Googs. Little slop goo. I tried watching that like Kevin Smith, the like Jay and Silent Bob nude thing that came out recently. I could I look, I fucking love the view sq universe okay i was all about that shit when i was in like middle school or whatever you know when you're like oh this his movies are sick because the dialogue's so fucking wordy that you know he went to college um whereas like now like watching this reboot it was just like so frightening to see Jason Mewes look old. Brian O'Halloran looks so old.
Starting point is 00:12:06 Kevin Smith. And I was like, this is so and just please just do other things now. I can't look at y'all like this. You were my stoner idols. And now I'm like, this is the thing. You just become a sad old guy. But I think it's interesting. It's like now we live like that's that's what every show and film is about
Starting point is 00:12:25 getting these beloved actors and actresses and figures back and we were i just watched sunset boulevard for the first time because i hadn't seen it and it was like wow norman desmond now they would be clamoring for her to have like a network drama or like a like a network uh prime time soap or something like if anything she'd be back on top of her game just because we're having these people that personalities that people love, now they're Picard or whatever. They're being brought back.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Or a massive reality show like The Osbournes meets Grey Gardens. Wow. Yeah. And we'd all watch it. I would watch the fuck out of yeah yeah sunset boulevard is a great uh i'm gonna go ahead and say it holds up uh what is something you think is overrated um oh all this talk about we're gonna go to mars like oh we're gonna colonize
Starting point is 00:13:20 mars it's like first of all i'm sorry no we're not. It's not going to happen. And if it is, it's not while any of us are alive. And then two, you think that Mars is so great. It's like here, but way worse. It's going to be, the stuff we have to do to make Mars as good as Earth is now, I just don't believe it. So I feel like the idea of going to
Starting point is 00:13:40 Mars, everyone's like, oh yeah, we're going to, I'm like, no, we're not. We can't deal with climate change. There's no way we're going to able to like end up going to another planet we don't we don't we're not there maybe in 100 years we're not there now you know yeah thinking mars will be like earth is like the alien kids equivalent we're like the alien kids like mom we want earth we want earth she's like we have earth at home cut right yeah right right yeah and they're like oh i mean kind of but this ain't it, Mom. Yeah, I just feel like we can't do the
Starting point is 00:14:08 work to maintain Earth. Why would you think that we could go and make another Earth on Mars? It doesn't line up with reality. Right. Mars, overrated. We just keep ruining. We just spread out and ruin new and beautiful lands.
Starting point is 00:14:23 Yeah, we fill the stars with our garbage. We leave all of our one-use plastics out on the stars. We don't feel comfortable until there's a garbage gyre on Mars. That's when we're feeling good. And Elon Musk has his fucking convertible jettisoned into space now, and that's going to probably crash into some fucking planet. They're like, watch, that's going to set off the next interplanetary war is when his car fucking lands
Starting point is 00:14:46 on some spaceship and they're like, it was sent from Earth. Yeah. They just find his keys in there. I subscribe to the Star Trek version that aliens know about us. They're just like,
Starting point is 00:14:58 we're not fucking with them yet. They need to get their shit together. And then once we reach a certain level of uh technology they'll be like okay we'll we'll acknowledge our existence but uh i have a feeling we will turn the red dot on jupiter into a garbage jar before that yeah and then they're never gonna talk to us they're never gonna they're we're always gonna be be. They'll be like, yeah, we're here, but we would rather not hang out with you guys. Y'all aren't.
Starting point is 00:15:29 By the way, I was wrong about the rods from God. We had talked about that on a recent episode. They were not a Nazi weapon. They were a 1950s weapon, but they would work. People have figured that out. Tungsten rods dropped from outer space. i was talking about those giant oh when you're dropping yeah like poles from poles from states that yeah the idea was dropping tungsten rods from outer space and they would really destroy the shit out of a planet they were or a country or a chunk of
Starting point is 00:16:02 land they were dropped on so So that's a possibility. Jesus. That's always out there. Yeah, I imagine. Did you call them rods from GAD? Rods from GAD. Wow. I got just demolished by people rushing to correct me on that fact.
Starting point is 00:16:18 Oh, History Channel gang came for you? History Channel Twitter came for you? Yep. Yeah, but I appreciate it. I only vaguely remember it. Now I can do a little research on rods from God. Fascinating. Hallie, what's something you think is underrated?
Starting point is 00:16:36 I would say the pleasure of a fresh sock. Socks are underrated. And I feel like as a child, obviously, it's like you don't want to get socks as a gift. But as an adult, like one of the old person things I get to enjoy is like just a fluffy sock, a clean sock, put it on your foot. It changes your whole day.
Starting point is 00:16:54 It's just so nice. If you're a little bit cold, put on a sock, you're good to go. Socks are the new shoes in quarantine. We don't have them. Right. Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah. We're all going to end up wearing like, you know, how babies like baby shoes are just
Starting point is 00:17:09 socks that look like shoes. Yeah. They have a little they have a little grip on the bottom tread tread on the bottom. But the first time my kids wore socks without the grip was I was not prepared for how unprepared they were for that they were just a good sock i got the winter it's i think two winters ago i i i really embraced like the sock yeah in terms of being like this is actually essential and it's because i have a lot of like athletic socks that i wear just to purely not sweat in my
Starting point is 00:17:45 feet on my shoes or whatever but i have like these like you know i started messing around like almost like blanket soft socks and shit in the winter it really is like to your point there's something about when you're like you move your toes and you're like damn this is like a fucking like a luxury car or some shit but for my foot yeah i was just i was thinking about like i mean this is also like my age but i remember like being in my early 20s and just buying shoes are like urban outfitters or whatever and ever i never wore socks all of my shoes smelled if you get those little knot socks like they always fall off at least when i wear them and roll up into a ball on the toe and i remember just like walking around my feet freezing in like
Starting point is 00:18:24 cardboard shoes that fell apart and now it's like walking around my feet freezing in like cardboard shoes that fell apart. And now it's like, why did I live like that? Like I wouldn't. Now I want the highest quality sock. I want to like feel comfort, you know? Yeah. And finally, what is a myth?
Starting point is 00:18:37 What's something people think is true, you know, to be false? The myth is that if you get rabies, will definitely die and the myth i'll debunk that because we have a protocol called the milwaukee protocol that um now if you so basically if you get bit by a you know bat or something like that you could go get a prophylaxis but if you don't go to but if you don't know or you don't realize and you go to the hospital once you have rabies symptoms for the most part, you will die. Like, there's just nothing you can do. But there's a doctor who, yeah, I'm sorry, I got bad news.
Starting point is 00:19:09 Yeah, if you get bit by a bat, I was reading about this online, and it's like the number of people who are like, oh, yeah, I was bit by a bat, and then just, like, didn't tell anyone or go to the doctor, guys, knock it off. Yeah. Or a raccoon or a possum, any kind of woodland animal, just go. Just go to the ER and then so basically uh this doctor developed something it's called the Milwaukee protocol and they it was sort
Starting point is 00:19:30 of on necessity like uh this a girl came in who had already was already having rabies symptoms which usually is fatal and so he developed something called the Milwaukee protocol where essentially they just put you into a medically induced coma for a month and then they revive you and hope that sort of the effects of rabies have has passed out of your body uh because usually what kills you is the effect of the virus like it's not uh like if you could survive the initial um symptoms then you could potentially live the problem with this is that it does work but it only works about um what like one out of four people the rest of of the time, it's just over.
Starting point is 00:20:06 So the myth you're busting is not that rabies is a bad time. Rabies is still a bad time. You don't recommend it. Two stars out of five. Don't do it. I might even give it one, honestly. Wow. Wow.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Okay. But I'm saying, yeah, if you get rabies, what the myth is, it doesn't mean you're going to die. It means you have to go immediately get put into a coma and see how it writes out. Yeah. It means a good shot, you might die. The one thing I just do want to say, because my mother is a card-carrying member
Starting point is 00:20:38 of the American Opossum Society, it's very rare that possums would have rabies. Right, that's a great point. Thank you so much for bringing that up. It very unlikely yeah possum twitter my mother will listen and she'll be like possums are don't have it that's they have a bad rap uh so yeah they can get it any mammal can get it but it's extremely rare for possums yeah in america it's usually bats in other parts of the world like sometimes it's like yeah that's what i was just reading stuff but yeah it's usually bad so if a bat is even near you if you find a bad your house just
Starting point is 00:21:09 go in like there's don't fuck around don't fuck around with rabies guys that has always been my my instinct is to get the fuck away from bats they're such scary creatures oh do you think people who get bit by bass so they don't tell anyone because low-key they're like maybe some you know i might get some new skills or something some new and then they're like oh my new skill is just shaking violently in fear right yeah my new skills i can't drink water anymore right right they go watch something about it just kind of it does something to me when i see that one that's not not how he got it. Never mind. That's not his origin story. Shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:49 That's terrifying. I used to, when I was growing up, our house, multiple of our houses in Wheeland, West Virginia, had bat problems. And I would wake up in the middle of the night and be like, there's a bird in my room again. And my dad would have to chase the bat out of the house with a uh tennis racket oh yeah i grew up um like in northeast ohio i i feel like a bird or a bat got in the house every other week like yeah constantly like if you left a door open they were getting in and uh we had to chase them around with like a laundry basket and and try to capture them i know well uh shout out to ohio and west virginia shout out to people who leave their shit open all day where animals can get it i'm like
Starting point is 00:22:33 what the fuck ain't no bird getting in my house ever but it's also because it's so hot now like you'd never leave your door wide open or windows like wide open with no screen ours were in the attic ours were uh oh yeah they were coming in through why they said there's a bird in your room oh but then it would get into the house from the attic right yeah yeah got it we had a big snake problem the snakes would get into the basement and then crawl up through the heating ducts into the house that is yeah oh my god there's always what you just watch them emerge from the floor and you're like uh snake one one time my brother what my youngest brother was coming out of his room and he looks down like
Starting point is 00:23:10 the heating register on the ground and there's just a snake coming out of it and looking at him and it wasn't like a poisonous snake or anything but that means that snake got from the basement to the second floor of my parents house through the heating ducts yeah wow yeah snake problems are a real thing our house in missouri uh had a snake like it had like a little bog behind it and there were just snakes all the fuck over the place it was very disturbing big bog problems yeah yeah big bog problems that's right uh bbp all right let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk pandemic friends i've been thinking about you i want you back in my life it's too late for that i have a proposal you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do.
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Starting point is 00:28:09 and we're back and i feel like there's some underrated ways that the pandemic is probably affecting our lives uh that you know because of the whole uh frog sitting in a pot of water situation of like we're just doing it every day and also we have the news there to distract us that we probably aren't fully realizing it um and one of those i think is friends i mean yeah yeah i feel like in the first week i was trying to contact every single person i knew like somehow like that was my first remedy it was like hey man that dude i used to be in a band with six years ago like what's up man what are you are you doing? Oh, cool. All right. See you later.
Starting point is 00:28:48 At first, I was really like trying to be like, oh, this is a great time to reconnect. But there's a lot of research talking about, you know, how a lot of evolutionary biologists and sociologists are looking at how just sort of this, our disconnectedness is, you know, what the ramifications are to our social ties. And, you disconnectedness is, you know, what the ramifications are to our social ties.
Starting point is 00:29:06 And, you know, just, you know, going from the beginning, monkeys, humans, like when you're measuring the quality of a relationship there, it's all, it's measured by how likely a fellow monkey, ape, or human is to step up and defend you. And that depends directly on the time invested in that person or animal. So a lot of the things like, OK, so that makes sense. And we realize as we are sort of quarantined, there's a lot. It's been harder sometimes to maintain friendships just because like it's you can't really keep up that same amount of time as you used to when you're sort of out and about. And it was easier to socialize and things like that.
Starting point is 00:29:42 and it was easier to socialize and things like that. So now they're seeing like, while some may be deteriorating, there are also people who are like reporting that they're forming new relationships or new friendships because of quarantine, whether that's like with a neighbor who like you talk to over your fence or just out in your front yards or, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:57 whatever, maybe a coworker lives nearby and it's just easier to socialize at a nearby park or whatever your backyard, that these things are all kind of uh like evolving and you know one of the effects of this is going to be that there will be new relationships and there'll be some older ones that have been replaced by these new relationships because like the upkeep is just a little bit harder to do um and it's yeah it's the concept is sort of understandable um but, but yeah, I'm just like,
Starting point is 00:30:25 I'm like, yeah, do I have new, I don't really have new neighborhood friends. I see more people more often that live closer to me, like walking distance. That's for sure. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:35 Yeah. For sure. Walking is a, as, as we discussed walking, having a moment guys having a moment. Yeah. Um,
Starting point is 00:30:44 but yeah, I, having a moment guys having a moment yeah um but yeah i i don't think i've replaced any friends with new friends because i didn't have friends to begin with so true uh that's not happening but i definitely could see that happening were i the type of person to, you know, have a the real person who I've forged new relationships with is myself. I think is what I'm saying. Beautiful. Because I'm lonely.
Starting point is 00:31:14 I guess I feel like the only person I really feel like I've become closer to is the guy who works at the liquor store near us. Because I, you know, the first couple months, I saw him and that was it. You know, in the liquor store, not only is it a liquor store, it was in because i you know the first couple months i saw him and that was it you know and the liquor store not only is a liquor store it was um in the beginning it had toilet paper like it had all this stuff because it was just sort of this corner store you know everyone's
Starting point is 00:31:33 running to the supermarkets and drug stores and this was like oh yeah we have some stuff and i got to know him do i know his name no does he have an identical brother who also works there and i could never tell which one i was talking to. Yeah, also true. Oh, is that true? Yeah. Well, it's funny. I can only tell because his brother is much less talkative and not interested in being a friend.
Starting point is 00:31:51 He's just not friendly in that way. And so I'm like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then he'd be like, oh, OK. I was like, you're the other one. And also, we all have masks on. So I feel like normally I'd be able to figure them out. But the friendly one, he clearly, we both are people who just want to like talk talk talk so he's like telling me about his mom and his father and and his cousin who works in silver lake and then we moved and so
Starting point is 00:32:14 now we we live not too far away but far enough away that we're not going to go there that often and i was like oh yeah like we weren't friends but we were a touchstone during the pandemic that likely unless i'm going i have a reason to go there like the i guess like the research is saying is like i would have to then go out of my way to befriend him and like i'm not going to do that i you know i just i just know i won't so but i did feel bad like when i moved i was like well that it was nice to always talk to him you know a couple times a week even and and that was it so i guess yeah it does make you um think more consciously about how do you maintain friendships and like especially now it's like are there acquaintances that you're then going to try to re-up into
Starting point is 00:32:54 friends or are they just going to kind of be like maybe we could have been friends but it's but we kind of missed the window i guess right promotion is there some promoted others get relegated to the second division the other thing is like they're in france too they were there's a lot of studies going on specifically in that country about how the lockdown was affecting sort of people's social bonds and then another sort of phenomenon was they were called relationship funneling which is basically like a huge survey well they were like of people they found this effect to be actually occurring and so essentially
Starting point is 00:33:25 what they're saying is that while some friendships were prioritized and even strengthened through care and increased communication other more marginal connections just fizzled out like just naturally and i think that also makes sense but tied to that is that a lot of things are like well don't worry if certain relationships don't like sort of you don't you're not as strong as you were before pandemic because they say that capacity remains to obviously reconnect once all of that happens but things change and also just with the level of digital communication that's also been like another big complaint that like while other people have such strong relationships like we all have friends where it's like yeah we make the zoom stuff work the facetimes work etc etc that it's just not quite there and it's the biggest thing that people miss now is obviously
Starting point is 00:34:09 just human contact yeah so you've noticed that it's that funneling feature miles like with the because you you are among the more active socially on on zoom of the people i know like when things first kicked off you've noticed that that's kind of scaled back yeah because i think what happened is like in the beginning it was easier to treat the pandemic like weird government mandated summer like indoor camp or something what are you doing all day oh what are you gonna cook yeah and then you're like oh god the country is in nearly irreparable shape at this point and then like i think then people's realities kicked in and we weren't getting as social but every now and then we're like yo we gotta talk like can we do a zoom call uh and we do that now but yeah i i definitely think that there are people who
Starting point is 00:35:02 maybe i would have talked to more that i just haven't because of all of this. And yeah, who knows? Maybe they're just haters. And that's why you don't hear from me. So, yeah, I've found it really useful to just meet up with my friends at these Hollywood Hills parties. I've been going to. Oh, they're actually pretty chill and chill. Great way to because like up there it's cool nobody
Starting point is 00:35:27 really wears a mask or anything like that you just get to like talk to people like like normal um yeah like yeah really close yeah like six it's like oh you realize how much you just miss it you know like being in a cypher passing a joint around with a bunch of people you don't know it's like oh oh man uh no, so Hollywood Hills, like LA just can't stop finding new ways to create super spreader events, it seems like. We've talked before about the parties in the hills and basically reinventing the speakeasy, except people are dying. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:04 And some people aren't even doing the finesse part of a speakeasy where it's low-key. Just out in the open, straight-up ragers with music blasting. Fucking DJs with amplified music. It's a lot.
Starting point is 00:36:20 So there was one specific house we were talking about. These two TikTok celebrities, Bryce Hall and Blake Gray, if those are their real names. No. They first, like we talked about how Garcetti was going to essentially shut down water and power to like houses that were caught partying. So this TikTok house, party house, they got hit with that first one. They had the water and power shut down because they were just having these huge parties again during the pandemic.
Starting point is 00:36:51 And then now it sounds like the mayor and city attorney are announcing possibly criminal charges for people that are having these parties, which is really interesting because i've not seen charges yet for officer tony mcbride who shot and killed daniel hernandez back in april um and maybe that's because she's the daughter of an influential member of the police union and the da jackie lacey is very chummy with the police union so let's vote her out in november but it's interesting that that's where the mayor's like, okay, yeah, obviously parties are a terrible idea in the pandemic, but the speed at which they're like, yep, let's just nip that in the bud
Starting point is 00:37:31 while other people are like, we've got also a lot of injustices too that we're also really concerned about, mayor, but okay, do you, sir? Yeah, it really speaks to the power of the call from the neighbor to the police i'm imagining like in my mind the reason these are going to shut down so fast is like they are also surrounded by other wealthy predominantly white influential people so it's sort of like oh like the it is like as
Starting point is 00:37:57 an american you have to understand the power of just being the neighbor and i think it's like the different situations that you as the neighbor have to decide is now the time that I, as the neighbor, make the call. In this case, I, you know, I feel like this having a TikTok party, because I was worried about it, too. I feel like this is like some sort of psychological experiment to make these kids go insane because like they're all super young. Like it's just these houses filled with like suddenly wealthy um you know like social
Starting point is 00:38:26 media celebrities i'm like somebody's gonna get stabbed or something like i it's just it's just not like you need to interact with normal life and like normal people in reality and right now literally physically you can't but then also now you're siloing yourself the whole thing's a bad idea you know like the parties are just the beginning of it like that i i think this is like like we were saying earlier like a gray gardens like type of norma desmond some what's your top gardens yeah that's what that's what my concern would be is like this this seems real bad and i did the savage challenge over there i remember that it's like oh no yeah well speaking Like, oh, no. Yeah. Well, speaking of super spreader events, it is now, you know, the initial reports out of Sturgis was that no new cases.
Starting point is 00:39:12 A couple here, a couple there. Yeah, but everything was cool. Nothing big. And now that science is actually getting a look at, you know, what the numbers and where people who are testing positive these days got the disease from or were exposed to people who are COVID positive. They're finding that at least 100 cases are coming from Sturgis and spreading all across the country.
Starting point is 00:39:40 And, you know, specifically the Smash Mouth show has been implicated in that. So we had the audio from the lead singer of Smash Mouth being like, fuck that. We're all here together. And that doesn't work. Apparently, I was. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, shout out to those fans that are they put it all on the line for Smash Mouth.
Starting point is 00:40:04 Yeah. It's really. Yeah. Shout out to those fans that put it all on the line for Smash Mouth. I can only imagine where this goes and how much worse it could get. But yeah, this is one of those things. Like, yeah, we saw this shit coming and y'all were really acting like it was all good. But I guess maybe they think you have 480,000 people. Right now it's just 100 cases. And then you're like, well, where's Dr. Fauci now? I thought it was bad.
Starting point is 00:40:29 He's under general anesthesia. Okay, okay, let's make some decisions. Go, go, go, go. I just didn't know if you had talked about at some point, like, how they were tracking, like, cell phone data around surges, which is its own terrifying idea that that's what we're going to like instead of um having you know like systems put in place where people can be tested and we're tracking it sort of uh people as humans it's like oh right it was like all technology where it's like people are like we're not going to use whatever deep fakes to trick people or whatever and in this case it's
Starting point is 00:41:02 like we are using people's anonymous as far as they tell us, cell phone data to track the spread of disease. So we are already doing it. I don't know, it's just sort of like, that's another creepy element where it's like, oh yeah, we couldn't track the disease in like a humane way because we just don't want to bother.
Starting point is 00:41:19 So of course it's going to default to these technologies that everyone's been talking about how we're going to misuse them eventually. So I don't know. It's going to default to these technologies that everyone's been talking about how we're going to misuse them eventually. You know, so I don't know. It's it's really creepy. Hmm. Well, speaking of creepy, I did want to just check in on the Jerry Falwell Jr. Story.
Starting point is 00:41:36 Boy, story of the week. If you ask me, it's really so it's getting dark. Yeah. Now we're in full on-on sexual assault territory yeah becky falwell uh jerry falwell jr's wife allegedly sexually pursued her son's friend uh went into his room while he was sleeping pulled his pants down and uh performed oral sex on him uh and then like kept like messaging him he sent uh politico screen caps of like messages where she was saying you know just very flirty things to her to him and then apologizing after the fact to wounds that she may have caused and just seems like this is going into a dark place of like sexual predator and the people around them
Starting point is 00:42:27 enabling the behavior. Yeah, I feel like because I guess the yeah, that the Falwell sort of dismissed this story and they described it as a false and fantastic claim. And it's like if you did something, the one thing you can't do is come out and say it didn't happen like we will find out if this guy if what he's saying is true which is like she pursued him for months she facebooked him she sent him gifts how do you think that we're gonna get around that
Starting point is 00:42:55 i don't know i think it's like a level of arrogance i guess they had it about this whole like you have to be arrogant in order to like tell people not to do certain things sexually and then you're doing them at the same time but it's like boy i just don't know how to be like no that thing that there's clear evidence of didn't happen i don't know who's gonna believe you like i don't know in your mind how you're rationalizing coming out like that i don't know well i think was at that point you're you're built like that and And the predation is just all about that. So there is no, I think consideration of what's lawful or moral. It's like,
Starting point is 00:43:29 this is, these are my desires and I'm going to act out on them and then just do the thing that we see all kinds of like super transgressor predator type people do is just immediately just be unequivocal and be like, no, it never happened. I don't know what you're talking about. Never happened.
Starting point is 00:43:42 No, that's fake. So, yeah, maybe a text, but I wasn't talking about when I was telling him to get his bangs cut that was just purely you know aesthetic advice
Starting point is 00:43:52 you don't want to cover up those killer eyes of yours and you know the bandana drives me wild perfectly reasonable conversation for your friend's mother to be hitting you up with jesus yeah so anyways and a lot of this is like liberty university students so it's really using their position
Starting point is 00:44:13 of power to uh prey on on people who are kind of at their will yeah under their spell and not to be like everyone who goes to liberty university is a you know evangelical or a super christian or raised that way but i do think it speaks to like the their i'm assuming their student body does tend to be people who have been raised to respect authority they probably have not been given like a coherent sexual education or been talking about consent again that's a generalization but i do think that like having like a super religious focus i mean i went to another day which is very catholic and that is that i even that which is like pretty you know what i mean like they were they were giving us some information but like you aren't you it's so like your student body are almost like you're making them more
Starting point is 00:44:58 vulnerable to people like this if you are teaching them to unequivocally um go along with certain rules you know what i mean like this and this is an example of like she was able to probably if you are teaching them to unequivocally go along with certain rules, you know what I mean? Like this, and this is an example of like, she was able to probably manipulate this person because he's like, I mean, she wouldn't do anything wrong.
Starting point is 00:45:11 Like they're both a moral and a, you know, a educational authority. So I guess, yeah, I don't know. It's just like, you're setting those kids up by not,
Starting point is 00:45:21 by not treating them and giving them information they need. Yeah. I mean, it's uh similar to a lot of what you see in the catholic church scandals uh right that are coming out more and more that a lot of this abuse was happening at a time when the local priest was just like an authority figure bi it was just like well yeah the priest like just ask the priest he'll tell you what to do yeah and and the fall wells i mean their whole thing is acting like a moral authority
Starting point is 00:45:49 and that's like why this whole thing is so ridiculous first of all ridiculous but also of course they're like this like because once you have made yourself a moral authority you could rationalize anything right yeah like well i'm i'm the one who's on the right so i'm allowed to do x y and z even if it hurts other people. I'm saving these other people and give myself the latitude to do other things. Yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about why it's actually the city people who are evil and the rural people who are the good ones. Love that. Jeffersonian tension, baby.
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Starting point is 00:50:39 And so we watched One Bedroom and The Lost Husband. Miles, you want to kick it off? You guys, since Hallie watched One Bedroom or most of One Bedroom and The Lost Husband. Miles, you want to kick it off? You guys, since Hallie watched One Bedroom or most of One Bedroom, you guys want to talk about that movie? Yeah, I mean, Hallie, you like a little bit of this genre of film. Oh, yeah. I would love to hear you break it down up until where you saw it and to hear a professional talk about it a little bit.
Starting point is 00:51:02 Oh, well, I can't claim to be professional, but so far, One Bedroom, I love it claim to be professional, but so far, one bedroom. I love it. As someone who was just looking for a one bedroom in LA, I was really invested in the search. I was like, I hope she does get it. I know it's such a nightmare. And I also think like,
Starting point is 00:51:14 so I lived in New York for 13 years then I just moved here to move with my boyfriend. And it was interesting because he's from California and he's lived here for the same amount of time in LA. And like his standards of living are higher because I'm living in New York. I'm like, oh, it's not filled with rats. Great. You know. And so in the you know, in the movie, it's sort of a new girl who's new to the city.
Starting point is 00:51:37 She wants to be a costume designer, moves in, finds a one bedroom. Huge. You know, she's working as a temp. She really lucked out. So I understand understand why she left on this this place um and yeah are there pipes constantly banging in the middle of the night did her door get left open is there a lot of creepy stuff seeming to happen at least the parts that i watched yeah but again you have to look at like i'd be like great you know like okay sure someone's coming into my apartment when I'm asleep. Well, they're not doing anything, you know, and we get a parking space included, you know. So I feel like, but to your point, yeah, it is interesting because you have the horror of moving to the city, but then you also have a lot of horror, the cabin in the woods.
Starting point is 00:52:18 We're going to start a new life. Something tragic happened in the first 10 minutes of the movie, and now we're moving to a country house where we could heal as a family uh-oh there's some there's a monster or whatever so right i guess it's like yeah a different kind of the different kind of isolation between a city isolation and like a remote uh physical isolation and this is a movie about being isolated in a city yeah it's really interesting because yeah like these steps like this apartment building, essentially, you find out is just this massive cult thing that this guy, some psychologist created like this book about the new community and how it's built on these four pillars of openness and truth and that, that, that, that, that. And, you know, this woman goes from thinking she's a nice apartment to her cat being thrown in the oven. And then she's getting like that, literally the stigmata or getting like like, yo, there's some wild scenes that not even that they're like so graphic. But you're just sort of like, this is so odd, like where the whole thing is like, we want to help you find new happiness. So maintain this stress stress position physically stressful position
Starting point is 00:53:26 against a wall for hours at a time until we break you and then eventually like you know it's about her getting out of it but it was kind of funny like the steps of it was like it just seemed like any person moving to la who's like trying to get in a comedy like you moved to la somehow joined a cult mistakenly because some other people you're around were like oh it's a good idea check it out you might get some work uh then she goes on a podcast where two dudes ask her about her sex life uh which is really just this scene it's i honestly jack i was like this she's going on a podcast because there's a moment where part of her like you know indoctrination reprogramming process is like her going into this room where she's having a lie detector test but the way the room's set up
Starting point is 00:54:04 it has like sound panels and like a wooden wall and there's a mic on a stand that's just to talk into and i was watching with her majesty i was like we both are like is she going on a podcast oh my god because like visually it was set up like that and they're like tell us about your first sexual experience and i'm like this is a very dark weird version of someone trying to get into acting or comedy in la.A. I mean, yeah. Just like weird as shit. And then she ends up with a broken older man because the community like makes her be this new guy's wife. It really reminded, I mean, I'm assuming, not to be like, oh, it was probably based on this.
Starting point is 00:54:38 But have you guys been, or did you guys start watching The Vow, that documentary about NXIVM on HBO? No, but I was seeing a lot of the parallels yes yes yeah and it's funny because you're watching that too uh it's which is about nexia which is sort of like it was a self-help group as all the cults begin and then eventually uh these women were being sex trafficked um essentially and manipulated by the uh two people in charge of it and watching it you're, how are people still falling for it? But I guess if you are lonely and you really want meaning, which is, I guess, the point of this movie too, is like, you will sit there
Starting point is 00:55:12 and you will pay $1,000 to be a part, like go to some self-help seminar and you will wear a sash and be like, oh, well now I'm at this level or whatever. It's like, in our year 2020, how are people still falling for that? And the answer is like, it's almost like a mathematical code. It's yeah if you were able to like isolate someone and and if they're vulnerable then you could make i guess basically it's like if somebody
Starting point is 00:55:35 tells you i have the answer and no one has ever thought of it before that's a cult you have to get out of there nobody has the answer to life and and and they certainly didn't just discover it and now you have to pay a thousand dollars or whatever you have to move into uh live with the person they've assigned you or something right when i was watching like they're like one of the first scenes like establishing establishing shot of la and then like this woman pulls up to a house there's open house and she like walks into this like very la apartment building with like a central courtyard that has a pool it's like the most 80s la looking apartment like if you know la you'd like okay melrose place
Starting point is 00:56:10 no no not nice like that like one of those like ones you like move into like you know when you like east hollywood if you have like your first apartment around their kind of spot and i was immediately tipped off when like she walks in this building and all the neighbors are out like yeah having, having fun. I'm like, no, no, no. I don't fuck with any of this. I would just be as a 10. I don't like a building where y'all are socializing this much.
Starting point is 00:56:32 This is already outputting. This is L.A. We do not talk to each other here. That's the rule in L.A. This is a cult. I felt it in my bones, but that was just more, I think, my L.A. native mind of being put off by socializing. Yeah. OK. in my bones but that was just more i think my la native mind of being put off by socializing yeah okay did where is she moving from in at the beginning not clear country or it's not clear her dad definitely was like i'll get on a flight so it's far enough away that it's like
Starting point is 00:56:58 not california or like a surrounding state it seems like she's like the midwest or something right okay yeah yeah yeah so i think the thesis of the lost husband is uh that cities and even suburbs are evil and the country is pure and good and the only place to raise a family it's sort of the like the opposite side where it's kind of uh you know country porn a little bit like it's just like people running through fields and kids playing entirely is there a close-up of fingertips on wheat you better goddamn believe that why with like the like sunbeams breaking through like that was one of the shots where because i was like the whole time i was categorizing in my mind like that's a shot that could have been b-roll that they just got from like a medication ad that's a shot like ozempic right and that that was one of the ones
Starting point is 00:57:55 where i was like that's actually more cinematic than a lot of the other like because because it is just a rip-off of the uh shot from gladi Gladiator. So it starts with a woman and her two children, a widow and her two children going to live on a farm and they're leaving behind her mother who's like chain smoking in the beginning and just like giving them the meanest mug ever. And so at first she's like really rude she's like texting and being super
Starting point is 00:58:28 rude about like her dead uncle's art her aunt's like and he made that piece of art she's like yeah it's certainly rustic it's just like damn you're the protagonist city people we gotta show a turn man
Starting point is 00:58:43 we gotta put him up there so we can see that turn happen, right? But the first half is like watching slow TV, like the thing- Oh, like from Scandinavia? From Scandinavia where they just like show the front, the view of like a train going through the country. It's just like nothing is happening. I checked the time that was left like probably five times during the first act. I was just like, how is this making time slow down?
Starting point is 00:59:10 That's amazing. But then like things start happening and they introduce like these plot mysteries at the midpoint and to the point that in the second half, I was like, wait, how are they going to solve all of this with just like 15 minutes left it's just so first of all like the love interest josh jumel at like halfway through i was just like oh shit this dude is like a full prepper he's like oh you shouldn't send your kids to college you should just teach him how to hunt and fish and hot wire cars for when the apocalypse comes oh like if this way he legit says that he legit says those words to the point that he the next thing he would have said in reality would have been have you heard about q drops uh i want to tell you right right right i want to tell you the truth about amer. You heard of Plandemic?
Starting point is 01:00:06 Yeah. There's a woman who is the... They have black people exist in this movie, so that's cool in this small town. There's one woman named Sunshine who communes with
Starting point is 01:00:22 spirits, so magical black woman. They have a magical negro in this film? Yeah. Oh boy. Wow, look at them! Okay. She is a young, the daughter of the boyfriend of the older aunt, the widowed aunt.
Starting point is 01:00:38 Daughter of the boyfriend of the? Yeah, so her father. Her father is, I think he's the mayor from The Wire, the Sheik. Oh, yeah, yeah. So he's great, as always. But she is a singer-songwriter who the protagonist is like, what are you doing in this small town? She's like, I went to LA, but basically like chewed me up and spit me out i like
Starting point is 01:01:07 she became an alcoholic while she was there like just immediately the city just completely corrupted her uh yeah i have some i have some bad news about small towns and alcoholism right that's what they're trying to allege it's like i don't think it's a geographic situation. I think you could be pretty much anywhere. This could be sponsored content for FarmersOnly.com. It's just it only shows you. Now, that rom-com I would like. Right. But it also has like porn-esque setups with just no porn. It's just them hanging out and being awkward.
Starting point is 01:01:43 But it's interesting to me that this movie, which doesn't have anything very special about it, has been so popular. It suggests that there is this undercurrent of that Jeffersonian, agrarian... Curse urban. Yeah. That mindset is real and out there. Um,
Starting point is 01:02:07 and people really believe that the city is super evil. Um, I think like it's interesting cause like all the things that are, that they think of as evil are just like failures of social planning and like society. Like I feel like people talk about like, there's homeless people everywhere. I'm like,'m like yeah man they're just living here yeah it's not because people in the city are like ah homelessness fuck yeah let's beat off like what what is the like that's what we're into like that's why it exists because right yeah it's just like that's obviously all
Starting point is 01:02:40 propaganda but in terms of like physical i would love to go to a farm or like be in a rural like a more uh natural setting right now because it's like oh yeah we're just can't leave our apartments so i understand that part of like oh the fantasy of going into the into a small town and having a nice house with a porch but you know everyone's they got alcoholics they got people who are you know like if not homeless almost homeless even we have problems all over so like that the idea of the small town has always been a fantasy oh yeah and just different problems yeah yeah there's a couple really great moments of the scenes with the kids are like a person without kids idea of having fun with kids like there's one scene where they're like making cheese and they're just all like laughing their heads off and being like ah too much salt just a little salt ah
Starting point is 01:03:32 this would just like it reminded me of like the you know the part in groundhog day where like bill murray kind of gives up and becomes manic and is yeah through the, and is just, everyone's like really weirded out. But like, that's kind of what it felt like. At one point, the protagonist is pitchforking hay around, but it's like, you can tell that during the preparation for that scene, she didn't consider the actual purpose of this job because she's just like picking up the hay
Starting point is 01:04:07 and like flinging it into the air. And it's very strange. What do you got going there? Just, you know, doing some of this farm stuff. Just flinging. But it does grow on you. About halfway through, I was ready to stop. But by the end, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:04:23 I was on board. Wait, so does it have anything to do with her husband like is she being haunted or is there like she's not being haunted her husband it's it's kind of a mess like her in that like her husband died in a car accident you feel like there's going to be some revelation where like she was partially responsible or something deeper at work there, but it turns out she just feels responsible because he usually didn't take their daughter to school. It's not a very realistic moral quandary.
Starting point is 01:04:58 She did cut his brake lines before. She did, but that's not what she feels guilty about. There's a great farmer's market scene where like her friends from houston show up and uh are just like do i look old do i need new botox and the other one's like no you look great from the last botox that you had and the other friends like i haven haven't had Botox forever. I need to catch up with you on my Botox. It's drinking. That's what they're talking about,
Starting point is 01:05:34 pounding beers in a fraternity or something. It's very clear in its point of view on the country versus the city. There's also her mom is like this evil figure who like has been married five times and, uh, you know, is very worldly.
Starting point is 01:05:54 The devil's wife. Yes. Yes. Right. And it's, it's wild. did it ever at any point, like,
Starting point is 01:06:02 will it make you feel good or you have to be a city hater for this to make you feel good? No, by the end it casts its spell. It does a fine job. Fine job. Fine. It's fine enough. It's a fine. I didn't know where it was. I thought it was the Pacific Northwest and then
Starting point is 01:06:20 you find out halfway through it's in Texas. So not really portraying a very clear or that might just be my my dumb brain but who knows where they shot it right yeah yeah shot it in toronto or something yeah wherever the tax breaks are the best but it's just a it's interesting because this is like you were saying like we're seeing real estate prices like really shoot up in rural areas and uh plummet in cities and i think this ties into like this overall fantasy that like gotta get away from the cities because i'm watching cnn these uprisings
Starting point is 01:07:00 and also like you know there's farms where you can go out and get fresh air and not have to interact with people not have to deal with oppressed people trying seeking equality god I love the country yeah it's just like how can I escape from
Starting point is 01:07:20 dealing with all these societal issues that we have to address basically where can I retreat to the comfort of classic dealing with all these societal issues that we have to address, basically. Where can I retreat to the comfort of classic whiteness? Ah, rural America. It's very much that. Very much. Where the only black people aren't going to give you a hard time because you don't have a BLM sticker on your car,
Starting point is 01:07:37 and they'll give you a whimsical tarot card reading. Some shit. So anyways, I get why it's popular. 10 out of 10 for sure. I would say for anyone who has thought about, who has been to LA, check out one B, one bedroom.
Starting point is 01:07:53 It's look, it's not great. And it also, it's so predictable. Like, you know, it's feels like a lifetime movie. And you'll,
Starting point is 01:08:01 I don't know. It's, I think it's funny that anyone who's moved here in pursuit of entertainment, because there's just moments where I was like, you could kind of see this as this really weird take on trying to get in the biz, but sort of told you to go into this building. Yeah, I'm really enjoying it.
Starting point is 01:08:16 Obviously, I haven't finished it, but I'm really enjoying it so far, and I think it is because I just moved to LA this year, and I'm like, I had to get a one-bedroom. What would I deal with? What would I put up with? It's like, would I join a cult in order to have like a reasonably priced one bedroom?
Starting point is 01:08:30 Absolutely. Absolutely. I would. I'm very sympathetic. Right. Well, Hallie, it's been a pleasure having you on the daily zeitgeist.
Starting point is 01:08:39 Where can people find you and follow you? Um, I'm on Twitter and Instagram at Hallie Kiefer. You could follow updates about my new podcast, Ruined, with Allison Leiby on Twitter at Ruined Podcast. We drop new episodes every
Starting point is 01:08:55 Tuesday. If you have any suggestions, please just tweet me movies you'd like to do or things you'd like to see from us because we just launched, so any feedback is good feedback. Oh don't be mean please don't be mean but anything that's not mean we'd love to hear from you what's the premise of the show so uh i love horror movies and my co-host is very scared and squeamish about them um so basically every episode i sort of recount to her a different horror movie and then she reacts to it based on my telling of it.
Starting point is 01:09:26 So she scores it essentially how scary she finds it based on my storytelling abilities. So yeah, we've already done The Ring, Candyman, and The Babadook, all wonderful movies. Oh, so she never sees the movies? She just gets your take on them? Yeah, and it's funny because I'm sort of like, well, just watch them, you know what I mean? it's funny because like I am sort of like, well, you know, just watch them.
Starting point is 01:09:45 You know what I mean? But then there are certain movies where I'm like, I understand why you don't want to see someone decapitated. Like I'm sympathetic to like, you know, I want to be it's like she's a sweet, kind woman. And I I'm like, I, you know, I understand why someone might not want to see this. So. But yeah. But but if you also I think it's fun for like horror fans, like if you've already seen the movies, every Friday we post, like today we'll post what the movie is for next week. So you can watch beforehand.
Starting point is 01:10:10 Would it drive you crazy if I asked you what your top three horror movies are? No, I, you know, I've thought a lot about this. I think what's hard is like I tend to rate movies I saw as a child or a teenager way higher because I was so much more scared. Yeah. And now obviously like top five movies for me. So I get it. Yes. So I was like, I think like Hereditary might be the like one of my top three in terms of scariness in terms of like movies.
Starting point is 01:10:38 I'm much more like movies I want to rewatch over and over again, which is I would say the poltergeist the exorcist and the ring the american version of the ring but that might change tomorrow because i feel like those are the movies i could just put on and watch again right and versus say like hereditary or i don't know like certain movies where it's like i've i found them the scariest but i'm not gonna just casually put them on you know so yeah i think it just depends on what are you actually in the mood to be genuinely scared or are you like i just want to slip into a pool of the poltergeist and watch the cameraman rip his face off and really just enjoy myself. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:12 Yeah. Just enjoy myself to that. Yeah. I mean, there's still photos of Tony Collette's contorted scream face from Hereditary. I was like, I can't watch that. Yeah. And the thing is, you're right. That's that's a movie a movie where it's like i mean watch it if you feel like you can but if not i completely understand why you wouldn't it's jen it's viscerally scary because
Starting point is 01:11:33 everyone said it's like you don't understand like it's just scarier for a different reason just because it will just freak you out and i'm like no no no no no I can barely watch the ring high so you know what catch me on that one horror movies high are like talk about my fucking exact nightmare yeah don't say this out loud Jack the CIA is going to know how to fuck with you send the girl from the ring to your house
Starting point is 01:12:00 yeah that is a actual acrobat or maybe it's not her but the that like backwards crab walk they actually hire an acrobat to do that because uh that's like a practical effect um yeah the iconic horror movie crab walk it's scary every time iconic crab walk i don't know why that turned wait hallie i forgot to ask you is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying
Starting point is 01:12:28 so this is the dumbest tweet I thought I liked recently and it's from my boyfriend Dave Schilling he's great follow him on Twitter and it's a photo of Pitbull and it says Pitbull's birth name is actually Pete Bull and that's it it's just so stupid.
Starting point is 01:12:46 So I really enjoyed that one. I heard him laughing and then he will often laugh at his own tweets and then I'll look and I'll be like, oh, it's the dumbest thing I've ever seen. Oh, you mean the dumbest thing ever? Congrats. Yeah, congratulations. You've done it again.
Starting point is 01:13:02 Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying twitter instagram at miles of gray also my other podcast for 20 day fiance sophia alexandra and i's getting high talking about 90 day fiance because that's you know that's how i don't watch horror movies i watch a horrible reality tv uh i can't watch that that's yeah yeah it's different works on a different way i know it's funny how there's some people who are like, it's just too cringy. It's too weird.
Starting point is 01:13:27 Like, I don't like it. It's just, it's like these people's lives are in chaos. I'm like, yes, it is. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:13:33 And it's real. It's not a script. So maybe in that way, I'm into some darker shit. A tweet I like is from at Jacob D Welch. The tweet is when Shania Twain says, let's go girls. I'm like ready
Starting point is 01:13:45 to run through a wall, bro. Oh, man. The energy in the beginning of that song, if you could just bottle that shit, man. Couple tweets I've been enjoying. RedDropShotty at Hoff tweeted,
Starting point is 01:14:07 imagine your car declined at Subway and they start disassembling that shit in front of you. Oh, shit. Disappointed. Devastated. It's so stupid. What a stupid-ass joke. But I love that shit because I love Subway
Starting point is 01:14:26 and that would fuck me, break my heart. And I'd be like, how are you going to take apart that tuna? It's all wet ingredients. Just give it to me, please. Just dumping it back in, scraping it off. Doing the little ice cream scooper for the tuna to take the tuna back. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:14:42 You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and a website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our foot notes where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song we ride out on miles what are we riding out on today okay let's get some get some beats going some toe tapping moving um this is a producer and musician ck man who is a ghanaian highlife artist from way back uh but there's this album i was listening to it's called the medleys
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Starting point is 01:15:41 Well, there's a few names. What's the song called? It's called, well, there's a few names. So it's Asafo Bisuon slash Obaya slash Ayeme Bone. Okay, so just search A-S-A-F-O-B-E-E-S-U-O-N and C-K-Man, like Calvin Klein. C-K-Man, M-A-N-N. Anyway, check the footnotes, good footnotes, because you know that's where the track's going to be.
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