The Daily Zeitgeist - Ancestry.com For Black People, Stan Lee’s Men-ghazi 1.10.18
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Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 13, Episode 3 of Das Daily
Zeitgeist! January 10th,
2018. My name is Jack O'Brien,
a.k.a. BoJack Hostman.
Critic of Kyle Welch.
And I'm joined by my co-host, Mr. Miles
Gray.
Gray, my name, gray, my name.
When no one is around you,
you listen to the Zeitgeist
while you try to change
Thank you so much, Nappy City Giant, for that, a.k.a.
You know I like singing, because I'm a repressed singer at heart.
The guitar playing was great, too.
Thank you so much.
That was actually, I'm not going to lie,
that wasn't an actual nylon string guitar.
That was playing a Korg Triton, and that was MIDI.
So anyway, just full disclosure.
I don't know what any of that means.
And we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by returning guest and the host of the
just-launched podcast, Culture Kings, Edgar Montplaisir.
Boingo, Boingo.
Hey-o.
Boingo, Boingo is back.
Boingo, Boingo indeed, my friend.
How are you feeling?
How are you feeling?
I'm feeling good. It's launch day. Yeah, it's launch day. Culture Kings. Firstingo is back. Boingo Boingo indeed, my friend. How are you feeling? How are you feeling? I'm feeling good.
It's launch day.
Yeah, it's launch day.
Culture Kings.
First episode is great.
Twitter is loving it.
And by Twitter, I mean that one dude who's been tweeting by the minute of every minute
of the podcast.
Really?
Blowing up my timeline.
Which is dope.
Live tweeting the podcast?
Like literally every minute, he's had an opinion about it.
Hey.
Good or bad?
They're all positive.
Oh, good.
That's great.
See, there you go. It's also 40 tweets. yeah so r.i.p your mentions uh edgar what's something from
your search history that is revealing about who you are oh i looked up you're my darling you're
my angel from uh uh that shaggy song i was arguing with my friend which one came first
whether he said you're my angel then you're my, whether he said, you're my angel, then you're my darling, or if he said, you're my darling, you're my angel.
I was right.
He says, you're my angel, you're my darling, but then he says, angel after darling.
What is that song about?
I don't know.
It's about the afterlife, I believe.
He's just in love with a dead body.
Edgar, what's something that's overrated American shows on Netflix
shows that Netflix makes
that are in America are overrated
like what
well I don't want to say Master of None
so I'll excuse that one but Disjointed
oh my god
terrible
The Ranch
Ozark you don't like ozark no i don't
really like ozark i tried to get everybody was saying like hey ozark's really good i got through
the first episode and i was like oh that was cool and then i just lost momentum it's like uh you
have you ever had baked lays like when they like no because i'm not a fucking psycho exactly that's ozark for breaking bad fans oh shit like yo you want breaking bad light yeah right the stakes are real low it's
like we gotta move to this weird lake town it's a comedian from a sitcom but now he's a bad guy
in a family drama you know what shows are crazy though and i was thinking about maybe even doing
this on a segment because i watched the weirdest shit on netflix like stuff i didn't even know
existed there's a show called under arrest and it's like the canadian version of cops Thinking about maybe even doing this on a segment because I watch the weirdest shit on Netflix, like stuff I didn't even know existed.
There's a show called Under Arrest, and it's like the Canadian version of Cops.
And it was clearly shot in the 90s. But for whatever reason, they package it now.
It is the most raw.
Like, there's fun stuff of, like, really polite.
Like, one thing is the cops are so polite to the people.
I'm like, yo, this is amazing.
This is a fantasy show.
Then there are some fucking savage incidents. I'm'm sorry you might have to bleep this out this dude straight
up tried to uh let me how do i put this very scientifically castrate himself with a tin can lid
and they showed everything this is on netflix this is on netflix well that's what i was gonna say my
underrated thing was any international show on netflix shows that they pick up they're insane
like i was just watching end of the fucking world that show is dope as fuck and like i think netflix
has a really cool plan where they like buy up all these like english or dutch shows from their
networks and just put it out to americans because they don't have access to it and that's some great
content out there that we're sleeping on oh you got to watch people just do nothing it's not a
netflix exclusive but that's a show they did real quick they took from the uk and put out
out here they won a bafta last year shout outs to my boys at corrupt afam uh sepa hugo all y'all
just do nothing people just do nothing is about it's like the office but for like the garage music
scene so these guys are like they have a pirate radio, and the one dude is like an MC, and then his boys are like the DJs.
I'm into it.
It's like they're the most broke-down dudes trying to get in the game.
So like every, they're just, it's just done at such a low level, but the stakes are so high to these guys.
And like they're really, they really did the mockumentary well.
So it's dope.
I'm into it.
That sounds so much better than Disjointed already.
Oh, yeah.
I'm Disjointed.
They're doing a second season.
Man, they're going to do like eight seasons of it, bro. Really already oh yeah i'm just i can't they're doing the second season man they're gonna do like eight seasons of it bro really it's i don't know i i
can't stand it i thought people why are americans like we have this opportunity to use this streaming
platform to do anything like you know what i mean like there's no one stopping us netflix is really
chill and the best that we can offer is disjointed and bright. That hurts my feelings. Right, right.
Getting emotional?
I just can't.
Edgar, you're the person who watched all of Mindhunters on the first day that it came out.
And then came in and were like, you haven't seen Mindhunters?
Dude, I thought you had a job here.
What's wrong with you?
You made me feel.
Went home.
I was like, god damn, I guess I got to watch this show.
It was good, though.
There are some exceptions, then.
There are some exceptions.
Anything that David Fincher has his hands on is good.
Favorite TV show of all time?
Of all time?
Yeah.
The Wire.
Yeah.
Okay.
That's definitely a good answer.
And just, I want to shout out to my girlfriend for being an idiot and not wanting to watch
past season two.
That's crazy.
Wait, what?
Past season two of The Wire?
She finished season two and said, eh, this show isn't for me.
I'm like, it's a mistake.
It's a mistake.
Keep going.
She's like, why was it at the docks?
I do love the twist at the end of season two.
But season four is my favorite.
I watched season four before I watched any other season.
I'm sorry to spoil it for everyone, but the twist at season two is that white people can't
carry a story.
All right.
We're trying to take a sample of the ideas
that are out there changing the world.
We talk about pop culture, the news.
Just try to take the temperature
of the global shared consciousness
of the human species.
We talk about tabloids
because those headlines are being dumped
into the brains of millions of people
every day in the grocery aisle. We might have to start talking to super producer anna hosnia about
the bachelor uh since that is apparently uh everybody watches the bachelor besides me
um but we like to open up by asking our guest what is a myth what's something uh that everybody
seems to believe is true that you know to be false?
Well, this one is very personal to me, but I'm not African.
I'm not African at all.
I'm also not African-American, but a lot of people will stop me on the street and be like, oh, hey, like, you know, like start trying to talk to me and stuff like that.
I'm like, are Uber drivers?
I'm like, I'm sorry, dog.
I'm from Haiti. Yeah. You're not Nigerian. I not nigerian uh i'm not yeah i'm not jalaf rice nope not at all uh you're not even fufu and banku i'm closer
to hispanic than i would be to africa like just in terms of like haitian culture and right right
right they eat and the stuff that they do and y'all sharing the island with the dr exactly uh
but yeah like and now it's also something that like, man, Haitian Independence Day was
depressing to like, see like people like post up like pictures of like Black Panther and
be like, Haitian Independence Day, it's got me so excited for Black Panther.
I'm like, Black Panther is in Africa.
Haiti is here.
It's, we could go there.
People just don't know where it is or know
anything about it right right right it hurts first independent black nation and nobody knows
where it is well see now you put people on the game that's right look it up
tucson so haiti not in africa not in africa i am not african please stop asking me would you say
that you're like ancestral what's the fucking it. Would you say that you're ancestral?
What's the fucking word I'm looking for?
Yeah, I mean, if you trace it. You're a descendant of Africans.
Of course.
Clearly.
Of course.
Of course.
But national, you're not an African national.
No, I'm not.
What I mean is I'm not an African national.
And I don't know.
I mean, people do get into the debate of African Americans a lot.
It was a debate that my family got into over Christmas, which ended up so nicely.
We all hugged and kissed at the end.
Wait, what do you mean?
What debate?
Whether Haitian people are African-Americans or not.
It's like a very big debate.
Jamaicans also are in this debate because I think the way that we think about it is
African-Americans are descendants of American slaves.
Right.
That would be my understanding too.
Exactly.
You are Haitian because you come from Haiti.
But my brother very, very much so disagreed to the point of mere violence.
My little hugging and kissing.
Do you feel like it was diminished by saying you're Haitian-American versus African-American?
He just feels like, yeah.
I guess his argument is that by nature of it, we are also descendant of slaves.
They just weren't American slaves.
Right.
So why shouldn't we also be African-American?
Haiti isn't America.
But I think African-American implies United States of America.
That's at least to my understanding.
That's what I feel like it implies is United States of America, not America at large.
Because if that was the case, then Mexican-American wouldn't be a thing.
Well, look, these are debates that are meant to be had in the hall yeah they're great debates
on thanksgiving uh any white family go for it i give you permission to try to have that debate
and not end up in violence should we move right to the uh andrew mellon foundation yeah i mean
that's that's a good moment because one good news for African Americans
is that we are a step closer
to finding out a little bit more
about our ancestry, our lineage,
because the Andrew Mellon Foundation
has awarded Michigan State University
with a $1.5 million grant,
which will, quote,
allow the creation of the project
Enslaved, the People of the Historic Slave Trade,
which is an online hub that links data collections on slavery
and enslaved people from multiple universities.
So in a way that basically you can try and find out sort of where your family may have come from.
Because before that, I remember when I was a kid and Ancestry.com first came out,
it was always like when my great great great grandfather came over from france
right like blah blah blah and now i feel so connected and i was like damn that was cool
and then all it took me was a second to be like wait a second uh like i know where my mom's family
comes from japan but my dad being black that is a completely it's there's a question mark it was
very european specific yeah it was very much so and then so like the only thing we know are like sort of just shared oral histories but now
to to think that they're actual like historical documents being like aggregated to help people
kind of like really trace their roots i think it's it's pretty big uh so yes uh good news for
african-americans i only want to know if that dude from PBS tells me.
That's the only way I want to know.
To find out, yeah, like each results package is pre-recorded.
Yeah.
So what happens, is that the same deal with 23andMe?
Like there's just a question mark?
Well, no, I mean, that's, I think.
23andMe is like, they'll like give you a map.
It's genetics, yeah. Yeah, they can tell you sort of like genetically,
like that, oh, you're sub-Saharan African oran or things like that so how's the ancestry dot com work they like go back and do research and they use documents yeah they can use like
immigration documents from like ellis island and things to be like this is how you got here
oh well like you know there weren't many receipts for the slave trade or at least none that were
like organized in a way that you could actually be like oh wow like we may have come from descended from this person who came off this ship
that came from that that poured into this this specific place so that's really interesting because
mine wasn't that hard it went right back to my grandpa but that's all that's as far because he's
the one who came into the states right right and then my dad came like i could see their immigration
documents right but besides that like i couldn't go back and be like, all right, how did we end up in Haiti?
Right.
And I think there is one for anyone with African – who are descended from anyone from Africa to find out more specifically what country or what more specific region in Africa you came from.
That would be so dope.
To really connect you to a country.
Right.
Which I would really love to do.
I'm pretty sure that that is a thing.
I felt like Questlove or somebody was talking about it.
Or like I saw a video where like Erykah Badu found out she was like Cameroonian or something.
Oh, wow.
So the truth is out there.
Yeah.
All right.
Let's move on to big news.
Stevie B, Slappy Steve, is out.
Not just at the White House. He's no longer running Breitbart.
He has resigned because his financial backers, his Medici family, who are the Mercers, decided
that he was too much of a loose cannon. They were no longer going to fund Breitbart as long as he was in charge. And so Breitbart had to let go their main dude.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He had it all.
He really did.
He thought he was king crap of shit mountain.
Right.
And he was like, we're going to turn this whole establishment upside down, blah, blah, blah.
How crazy do you have to be to be a loose cannon at Breitbart?
I know.
That's some wild shit.
All you got to do is make the president look wild fucking stupid.
Yeah.
And that's pretty much the line.
He had some choice words about the Trump family, and that got him in all the hot water.
But also, his stock was falling.
True.
The Roy Moore loss was bad.
Very.
Losing those gubernatorial races was bad because a lot of people who weren't necessarily running on that Bannonism, Trumpism platform tried it out, did not work well for them.
So it's kind of showing like, oh, is this effective anymore?
Like I think it was effective to a point, but now it's clearly starting to fade.
And you're starting to see the fallout from it because the Bannonism, Trumpism, whatever you want to call it, platform has been really toxic for establishment Republicans.
That's why something like – I'm pretty sure 31 seats in the House are going to be up for grabs because people are retiring or running for a different office.
So that's crazy. The Democrats need how many to win?
How many of those?
24 seats.
If the Democrats win 24 seats in the midterms, then they can take back the House.
Like the Senate is obviously much closer.
But if we can get the House back, that's pretty big.
That's big time.
Yeah.
Joe Arpaio, who is the most Bannon candidate of all, has announced that he's running for Senate. So that'll be a referendum on Bannonism and whether Bannonism can survive without Trump. even though this these banning candidates like these roy moore's in our piles like they're like
third rail type candidates you really don't want to get near because they say some they're fucking
crazy racist right and nobody's here for that i want him to go full in on it though like if he's
gonna run like no republicans are gonna back him he's not gonna be honest on the establishment i
want his like campaign model to be like niggers do we need them like that's like like go for it
like you don't just bring out they're not gonna's like like go for it like you don't just
bring out all the right yeah they're not gonna back you like go for it bro like roll up in like
that clan hood and like just be like we're doing this shit i mean he already did the forward for
steven seagal's book right you know joe arpaio is a very busy man yeah he'll be the oldest dude
he'll be i think he'll be the oldest senator how old is he he's like 84 jesus christ my prediction
is that he doesn't even get to election day because there's a profile of him that I think the New York Times did that's just very sad.
Like they go to visit him at his house and he's just like waiting for his phone to ring.
And he's just like this lonely guy who's like doddering on about how like famous people used to call him and stuff.
And it was just like, yo, man, this guy's like, I don't know.
It just seemed like this.
It seems, based on that profile, this seems like kind of a desperate move to be like, remember me?
Yeah, because was it on the Daily or something where you could hear the audio
where it literally sounds like visiting your great-great-grandfather who's in a home?
Right.
It was kind of like, will you stay a little bit longer oh yeah that's right yeah yeah she said that she had gone to visit him
like before and could only get like 30 minutes of his time like 10 years ago and then this time he
was like would you stay longer yeah i'm so alone like jesus christ but then i also think about it
like i don't know like who's exciting on the Democrat side? Is there anyone like early on who's like pretty exciting?
In terms of what?
Like running for senator.
Is there anybody cool?
In that race, it's going to be – I mean I know the real big fight in Arizona is going to be over that Republican pick like during the primary.
Because you have like – we have Martha McSally who's like an establishment.
That's who like the establishment GOP people want to be the candidate, not psychopath Arpaio.
But anyway, it's just showing that basically Bannon has he blew up the party.
Yeah.
And it's so fractured.
Yeah.
You have establishment people and then you have straight up psycho ethno nationalist people who like are just running on some trash platforms.
ethno nationalist people who right like are just running on some trash platforms um yeah my guess would be no the democrats don't have anyone cool running for senate because senators are just
generally not cool the senate fucking sucks that's true that's true all right uh we have to move on
to mengazi uh we have quite a few updates actually stan lee Stan Lee, late stage sex criminal up.
He was apparently harassing nurses.
Is that right?
Yeah.
Like asking the women who are around him at this point.
Trying to grope him and asking for head in the shower.
This should not be a surprise.
His role in every single Marvel movie is creepy dude.
All he does is like, hey, I'm being creepy in Iron Man.
Right.
I'm being creepy in the Hulk.
It's just interesting because when I was thinking it was Sophie, our project manager, she was like, yo, Stan Lee.
And I thought, oh, my God, is there about to be like a history of crazy Stan Lee shit?
And it's just him and his senility, just old men not being able to control themselves. Right. And it's just like – it's just him and his senility just not having – old men not being able to control themselves.
Right.
Yeah.
I mean it's similar to George H.W.
It's like how should we feel about this?
Is it just like he's kind of lost the ability to control himself but at the same time I feel bad for those women.
Yeah, I mean how do you correct a dirty old man?
Right.
You take a page out of The Giver and you just put him down.
What?
Y'all never read The Giver?
They do a party and they kill the old people.
Oh, whoa.
So you send out Stan Lee.
Like, what's Stan Lee given us besides cameos in Avengers?
Yeah, I mean, he did his thing.
He did his thing.
He gave us all the source material.
If y'all don't want them.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Like, he's past his prime. He gave us all the source material. If y'all don't want them, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, he's past his prime.
Yeah, no, no, no.
All people should be put down and shared for food.
Not all of them.
But if they're in their senile years just grabbing people, like, hey.
Yeah.
Or just, you know, like, confuse the shit out of them and, like, give them, like, robot nurses.
Absolutely.
They think that are human or something.
I don't know.
Well, that's just, that's giving into his desire.
Yeah, I don't know. I just, you know, what do you do? What do you do when someone goes into senility like that? It's like, you'd imagine that that's because they have
diminished mental capacity. It's not because they're like, I mean, maybe they, they always
had these urges lifelong. And then finally, like they don't have the faculty to, to do that. I
don't know. Me Too movement has gone too far and they're, you know, they don't really get into specifics.
I guess they say that, you know, men are being forced to resign because they put their hand on someone's leg and like sent people sexual texts.
Like almost as if like, can you believe it?
Right.
It's kind of weird.
I don't know.
We wanted to bring in super producer Anna Hosnier for this discussion.
Anna, I mean, what do you think of this letter?
I know you read it.
I don't think it's good.
Thank you, Anna.
All right.
And that was super producer Anna Hosnier.
I find it very tone deaf.
Like they're missing the entire point of the movement.
Right.
And to say – so there's this quote in the letter that says,
Men have been sanctioned in their professions, forced to resign, etc.
When their only wrongdoing was touching someone's knee, trying to steal a kiss, talking about intimate things during a professional dinner
or sending messages with a sexual connotation to a woman who wasn't attracted to them.
That is all inappropriate behavior.
But it's only four of them.
It doesn't matter.
It is that.
Yeah.
I should feel comfortable at my workplace that someone is not allowed to creep on me
in any sort of way so that statement itself just to me i think
explains that they just do not get it well it seems also too that she's almost talking about
society at large not the the way men and women are interacting in a professional workplace setting
right like because it's like this whole like it's we're slipping into this puritanical thing and
sexual expression we can be lost like yo express express yourself as sexually as you want to, like outside of work with consenting adults.
When you're at work, be fucking professional.
Nobody is here to see your dick.
Nobody's here to get pushed into a fucking refrigerator and get fucking assaulted.
Like what?
I don't I don't understand that.
And also, let's let's be real here.
Catherine Deneuve is like a Roman Polanski defender, too. She's not quite the I don't understand that. And also, let's be real here. Catherine Deneuve is like a Roman Polanski defender too.
She's not quite the – I don't know.
I don't want to like – I get – no, I don't get what she's trying to say.
It sounds like a respectability politics a little bit.
Kind of like – it's like the same thing when black dudes are just like, you know, I get pulled over all the time.
And I've never been shot by a cop.
It's like them saying like, you know,'s like them saying, you can just not say anything
and just put up with it and be a strong woman.
It's just like, nah, I believe that they should
have the right to go to work and just
chill and not have some
old dude talk about what dress they're
wearing and ask them sexual
questions and shit like that. Yeah, that doesn't make us
prude. That just makes us
professional. I'm here to make
my money and go home and not have an old man touch my shoulder and give me a massage.
Or try to steal a kiss.
Yeah.
That's absolutely inappropriate.
Didn't she say that Roman Polanski, like the word rape should not be used?
She said, I always found the word rape was excessive in the case of him raping a 13-year-old girl at a party in L.A.
So does the 13 year old girl
what was a better word than rape like surprise surprise sex
like what the fuck does i mean i don't know i think i think it's it's uh
i wonder i also wonder how much of it is i i didn't get a look at – or I didn't know who all the actresses are who have signed on to this.
I know it was –
A hundred.
A hundred of them.
They include journalists, filmmakers, writers, and intellectuals.
It seemed like Catherine Deneuve was the biggest name though, which is why – like even when I look through articles trying to find who these other people were, like sort of a cursory search, like hers is the one who you see all the time pop up.
So you got a pop album coming out yeah right exactly yeah i'm curious what the average
age of that list is because i mean i understand that france it's a very it's a country that's
you know they they're into their sexuality they're the good cool you can be as sexual as you want
but that doesn't lessen our right to not want it in the workplace like we just don't
want it yeah it's not forced on you well of course in the culture like yeah people in europe are much
more affectionate in general and public than americans because yeah this is a lot of puritanical
belief systems have you know have come into this country and spread in our culture but yeah all
we're saying is don't fuck around when you're trying to work when you're trying to be professional and don't leverage your power in the workplace to take advantage of a woman
or man or whoever you know that's what the issue is and i think i don't know if she's conflating
that with something i don't know i i it's hard that's the thing is to say any of that is okay
that will escalate to tell a man it's okay if you steal a kiss from me at work. That's not ever going to end well.
Right.
Like that.
If you tell a dude, what is it?
Well, I won't get into that, but I just.
Are you going to say if you give a nigga an inch?
Is that what you were going to say?
I got you.
She was going to say if you give a nigga an inch.
I think you would say if you give a moose a muffin.
Great children's book.
Pick a pancake all i'm
saying is you can't set that kind of precedent and expect it not to escalate in a way that will
be incredibly harmful towards women and even men in the workplace so steal a kiss will be in the
steal some head yeah exactly i'd read that book's like, if you give your boss a kiss.
There was also some Benghazi action on Colbert with his interview about James Franco.
But we'll get into that later on this week.
We are going to take a quick break and we'll be right back.
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So I wanted to talk about this story slash defense I've seen from conservative outlets like Drudge. It's great again, colon, and then like stocks rocket to an all-time high or basically saying that now that Trump is president, the stock market is outstanding and all markets are presidents since I think FDR, maybe even before him, like where the stock market started and then how it did during their first year.
And under Trump, the stock market picked up by 27 percent, which is really good.
It's actually the fourth best of modern presidents.
Truman is third.
And Obama is actually the second best ever.
Only what, to FDR?
Yeah, only to FDR, who was coming out of the – Literally out of the ashes.
Right.
But Obama brought it up 33 percent, which is kind of crazy because – so they say that mostly your first year, you're kind of coasting off the momentum of the previous administration.
Obama came into office during a financial crisis, and you actually see during the first uh you know couple months of his
administration the stock market is trending down and then all of a sudden it just turns around he
like pulls it out of a fucking tailspin and it ended up going up 33 percent which and way more
when you look at like how far down it went, like two months into his administration, Trump's has just gone steadily up ever since he took office.
And people have speculated that's probably just, you know, he's not totally fucking things up that were going well under Obama, which that's not the message that I had been getting based on, you know,
some conservative outlets.
Well,
you got to hype your boy.
You know what I'm saying?
Like you got to make it look like your boy was responsible for it,
even though he wasn't.
And I think that's kind of what's annoying about this whole,
like great again thing is that they're taking these things that Trump has
nothing to do with and attributing it to him.
Like,
you know what I'm saying?
And it's just,
it's just propaganda at this point,
really.
Yeah, totally. If, if the, if the stock market is doing so good, how him like you know i'm saying it's just it's just propaganda at this point really yeah totally if if the if the stock market's doing so good how come you know his polling numbers his approval ratings are in the shitter right so that's the other thing is that
there's never been somebody who's had this good of an economy and this good of a stock market who
didn't have just outstanding uh approval ratings oh like they're just completely upside down? Yeah. Right.
And his approval ratings, like he has somehow managed to become way less popular as the stock market has continued to go up.
Yeah.
I mean, aside from reforming the tax code, I don't see much real action coming from this
administration.
Right.
So it's hard to say that this is a continuation of the previous administration,
like that.
It isn't a continuation of the previous administration.
Well,
I like analogies and I'm going to go ahead and use one right here.
I think Trump is like someone that you're in a relationship with and the sex is
good.
It's very good.
It's enjoyable sex.
But the moment that sex is over,
he opens his mouth and he starts talking
and he starts saying shit he starts making jokes this is you having sex with a man yes
and it's great i mean the sex was great and then he starts talking he starts saying shit
he's like making jokes here and there he starts eating big macs all the time
in bed just yelling at the tv i like analogies too but this one is
really distracting because i'm picturing myself having sex with it's all good man keep riding
out keep riding out till we get to the end he's spilling food all over the bed all the time and
then just like yeah i have to go i got work in the morning and you're like hey do you want to
hang out with my friends like now i'm out golfing all the time i'm golfing and then it's just like
yeah this sex is good but everything else about this dude is trash.
And I think that's exactly how the American people feel.
It's like, all right, this economy is cool, but I can get good economy from somebody else.
Somebody else can give me good economy.
But sadly, not everyone is experiencing the benefit of this economy.
It's people that are trading on Wall Street.
These things haven't actually trickled down, to use a shitty phrase, to the general population where they're like, holy shit, man.
My fucking boss, yo, they changed minimum wage in my state.
Or I have better health care.
I don't know.
It's hard to say.
How do you equate that with the improvement of quality of life for people that aren't in the top 1% or the people?
Because I think, I don't know what the stat is.
Do you know what percentage of Americans actually even trade on the stock market?
It's something like 35% or 40% or something, isn't it?
Yeah.
As of 2013, the top 1% of households by wealth owned nearly 38% of all stock shares according
to research by NYU.
So 99% is fighting over the potential benefit of the remaining.
Right. So it's hard to say like potential benefit of the remaining. Right.
So it's hard to say like, yeah, those are cool numbers, but that hasn't affected me in any way.
So it's hard to say that, wow, like we owe this all to him or whatever.
I mean it's – these are cool figures that are indicative of like how the economy is operating but i don't know if i feel like a quality of life index kind of thing would be more effective to like judge how maybe people are
feeling about their own lives especially for such a populist president like for someone who like
campaigned on populism yeah for someone who's just like out like i'm gonna make all of your
lives better and it's like dope it seems like you're only making your friends better no absolutely
like dope it seems like you're only making your friends better no absolutely yeah i mean the uh tax the tax cut did see some initial gifts to employees from at&t uh but then at&t like fired
a whole bunch of them yeah like a month later haha i don't know it's like a fraction of what
their profits are and like a fraction of what they spent on lobbying too so right right right
um yeah so i don't know i i agree that agree that quality of life seems to be something that we should be kind of keeping an eye on.
Let me ask you all a question. Would you all rather have a chill president with a bad economy or a trash-ass president with a great economy?
The looming threat of him killing us all is I would basically trade that going away for almost anything.
So you would rather have a cool partner who gives you bad dick than have a trash-ass partner who gives you the best dick you ever had?
As long as you're not putting me at risk.
Right.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, exactly. Because he's giving everybody that dick. Well, no. He came back into bed with as you're not putting me at risk right you know what i mean yeah yeah exactly because you know he's giving everybody that dick well i mean back into bed
with me i don't see it don't put me it's amazing bro no look the idea that even uh that i've read
articles that he is trying to figure out like a bloody nose strategy with north korea like i'm
doing a very like pinpoint strike in north korea but like not induce a war is crazy to me. I don't even want anybody who's even fucking thinking like that.
Like,
well,
yo,
no,
no,
no.
Yeah.
It's almost like I'll be selling with an abusive spouse.
I will be celibate.
Yeah.
He's great all the time.
And then sometimes he almost kills me.
Yeah.
Right.
That,
uh,
all right.
There's a good analogy.
It's a killer analogy.
And then there is the Trump story.
He had this bipartisan meeting about DACA where he wanted to have the cameras come in, show him kind of presiding over a meeting and being important.
And that ended up backfiring a little bit.
He was in there basically trying to be like, hey, we need border security.
I need $18 billion for this wall that I said Americans wouldn't pay for, blah, blah, blah.
And he's like, and that's how we'll get DACA done.
And then, you know, Dianne Feinstein, she hit him with the Jedi mind trick
and basically got him to say that he was open to a clean DACA bill
just to make sure to protect these dreamers,
and then we can move on to comprehensive immigration reform.
And her trick, this is how she pulled off her mindfuckery.
She said, I don't know how you would feel about this, but I would like to ask the question,
what about a clean DACA bill now with the commitment that we go into a comprehensive immigration reform procedure?
Trump goes, I have no problem.
That's when all the Republicans in the room went, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa room i'm sorry my man's does not know what the fuck he's talking about do not take that uh as a quote
i'm pretty sure the white house struck that line from their transcript of the meeting yeah because
they don't want him on wax saying like he has no problem with a clean docket bill it was just kind
of a funny moment where you could tell he didn't know what side he's playing on yeah he wasn't
following the conversation kevin mccarthy had to like fully step in like a nanny and was like,
Mr.
President,
I think you need to be clear though.
I think that Senator Feinstein is asking you,
like he had to really make sure he knew what was going on.
So,
so clean DACA bill just means nothing else attached to it.
Yeah.
Like let's just,
let's just vote on this.
Let's get this done and then let's move on.
Then let's really talk about comprehensive immigration reform.
He got middle school got.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
It's just funny that his whole like he cannot be by himself with Democrats because he'll probably agree to a lot of stuff without people reminding him what platform, what side he's on ideologically.
My goodness.
He just wants to be liked.
I get that.
I'm that way sometimes.
So also during that meeting, that was during the same meeting.
That was during the meeting.
So also during that meeting, DiFi, as Miles calls her, dropped the GOP's big scheme to discredit Christopher Steele and Fusion.
Yeah.
discredit Christopher Steele on Fusion. Yeah.
While she's talking to him,
her office releases the full transcript
of the
testimony of the Fusion GPS
co-founder Glenn Simpson. To put it
very simply,
last week there was an op-ed by the guys
at Fusion GPS that were basically saying,
please release the transcript. You will see what we said
and that will show you that the senators
know the truth as we know it, as we know it to be true, but are still saying something completely different,
which is this idea that because Fusion had a Russian client for a completely unrelated project, that they were somehow connected to the Steele dossier and Hillary Clinton creating it.
And so by releasing the transcript that shows like once and for all, this is the testimony that they gave to these senators.
So what they're saying is completely counter to what they told them, and they are just spreading blatant misinformation about the origin of the Steele dossier and how the Steele dossier may or may not have affected the FBI's investigation, which in the transcript, they note that when Christopher Steele approached the FBI, the FBI said, we already know.
So that's the reason why Chuck Grassley – it's easier to push this fake bullshit when there's no proof.
There's no record of it that people can read.
And if you keep that in the dark, then it's easy to be like, well, that's what we know.
And now that it's out, it's hard to – now, how are you going to defend that?
that it's out, it's hard to know how you're going to defend that.
And to top that off, right, Lindsey Graham made the first criminal referral of the entire Russia investigation to investigate Christopher Steele when there's no reason to at all.
That's purely just posturing to try and reinforce this narrative.
They're like, well, we're looking into Christopher Steele because, you know, he looks like a
shady guy.
And that's why she's like, no, look at this transcript.
Like, look at what they came in and said.
There's no reason to look at him.
There's none at all.
Right.
They were saying that he lied to them about possibly what he told to the media or something.
But basically the whole strategy on the Republican side is to tie this investigation up into in looking at shit that doesn't matter so that nothing happens of substance
and when you and when you couple that with michael cohen uh trump's lawyer who like suing buzzfeed
and fusion gps for this dossier you know they are sweating like why why what's with this full
frontal attack like that if if if it's all bullshit, like it's, you know,
they're showing their hand.
All right.
We're going to take a quick break.
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All right.
I wanted to talk about the Starbucks story.
There's a Starbucks in the Atlanta area where a woman who worked there posted on Facebook.
She worked there, posted on Facebook.
I think she was a black woman, and she posted that she was spitting in white customers' drinks and putting blood in the jelly.
Yeah, like dog feces in the hot chocolate.
Right, of children, of white children.
So she posted this on Facebook, and it went viral.
Lacey, what are you doing?
And it went viral and that Starbucks had to close down because they were getting death threats towards this woman who, it turns out, was a fictional character.
No.
Made up by some hoaxsters.
And this is something we saw. We were following during Hurricane Harvey. We were not only following the hurricane here at the Daily Zeitgeist, but we were also following this trend where people were creating fake accounts of looters.
It was like –
The Houston loot crew or something like that.
Yeah, Houston loot crew, Harvey loot crew harvey loot crew and it was you know clearly people trying to talk like you know thugs
and looters and like saying like just ridiculous shit and um it was so clearly a concoction of
people who are definitely not black right because based off the tweets it was like they i think they
heard like a old mace album gang gang, gang, gang, gang, gang.
We're going to pick up a world.
It didn't even have gang.
No, no, no.
You have to even go back 20 years.
Yeah, yeah.
It's like me and my boys are about to go loot.
Right.
P-O-Y-Z.
Me and the cats.
Yeah.
Right.
It was really bad.
So this is a trend that we're seeing where people on that side of things are –
The racist side of things.
The racist side of things are posting fake stories and hoaxes.
And this also happened with Comet Pizza in Washington, D.C.
And resulted in somebody bringing an assault rifle and firing off three shots because he was there to save the children who they had alleged.
There was this big hoax alleging.
Democratic pedophile sex ring.
Right.
That was being run out of this pizzeria.
Yeah, it's their grass.
What was that nigga thought he was going to do?
Just shoot the whole place and walk out with the kids?
I think he was going to ramble the shit out of that place.
I'm here for the kids.
I'm going to save these kids.
We're going to go with the man with the big-ass gun.
He's here to save us.
It's wild.
Yeah, I don't know.
It's just... What is their intention for doing these things?
Because I remember I saw one maybe two years ago where a lot of people were coming at this white woman for yelling at a
black barnes and nobles a worker about not having a specific book from an author and like she's like
yelling at her and ranting at her and everyone's just like see the white woman can do this and
they can act out and stuff like that but what it turned out was it was a fictional character and
she was promoting a live stage version of misery so So it was a woman pretending to kind of be like Kathy Bates' character
and stuff like that.
And that just turned into a bunch of people just being upset with her
and being like, this is – white women act like this all the time.
They're so mad.
So are any of these people characters trying to promote something?
No, this is definitely not viral marketing.
I think this is purely to stoke the flames of of racial hatred like to just be like you see you see black people
are working at starbucks and they're shitting in our hot chocolate they're bleeding our jam
and they're spitting in our coffee and see and that's why we can't trust them still like i feel
like that's that's the only purpose something like this serves yeah it's just to create more
it's just it's ridiculous it's just
trolling of the highest order i mean unless this is the worst viral marketing campaign for coffee
bean like i have no idea like how he'd be sitting there be like yo we got this time bro yo we got
them niggas but i yeah i think it's just it's just straight up it just you know they're they're
exploiting people's racial distrust.
Well, I got to applaud that effort.
That's so much work.
You know what I'm saying?
That's so much work to go in there and do that.
That's the thing.
I was surprised back during the Harvey thing that they were putting in that much work and kind of doing this whole – it was just a lot of forethought and planning and just – it's kind of doing, because it's hard to it's hard to know that something is fake.
And, you know, people aren't going through and fact checking people on Facebook.
So, right. We'd also seen this story where somebody was talking about how fake news and shit wasn't as big a deal as people assumed, because only six percent of the stories read by the average Trump voter were fake news, essentially.
But I feel like that's misleading because that 6 percent are stories that have been made up for a reason.
They're being made up to have a very specific effect on people.
And you question and it forces you to question legitimate journalism or question your actual
reality.
Right.
And when you look on Facebook's like biggest, most viral stories of the election, a lot
of those were fake.
So I don't think that was just six percent.
It was like most of those stories like that had been read way more than any of the big,
you know, bombshells that Washington Post had dropped and the New York Times had dropped that were actually based on reporting.
A lot of those were fake.
So just because it was only 6 percent of what they had read doesn't mean that it had a 6 percent effect on their mind share.
No, because even when I would see things that were blatantly fake, I was just like, wow,
this atmosphere exists out there.
Like people are operating in this atmosphere, even if they don't believe it, right?
It creates the idea that there are people who believe it.
And I think that's just as dangerous.
I mean, those people, that's my friend's mom.
Like, you know, she'll post like those stories.
Like, I'm pretty sure my friend's mom was one of those people who would post that Starbucks
story and be like, look at what they're doing and look at this like what do you have to say about this and
this is like this is from news.blogspot.com like what are you doing like you know i definitely
think i'm not surprised by right it's uh again i don't i don't know it could this could this
could also just be straight up like russian trolling too like because like you know if you
think about the stories that were being pushed by a lot of these like like that uh russian agency that troll farm were very like specific sort of things to like
enrage like people with racist tendencies right and this feels like a very similar thing just to
create more you know it just causing more tension it's just come on how much do you think these troll
farms cost man they said what did they they did it with like a few million.
I might try to push them to like get people to talk about Nickelback.
I think that the hate against them is too much and maybe these trolls can help me out.
I agree.
You know what I mean?
Jack Roger.
I'm not saying that they're good.
I'm saying they're great.
But I'm saying.
Let's chill back on the hate.
All right.
That's all the time we have uh
real quick uh wanted to correct myself on the buffalo bills thing since this is the most pushback
i've ever gotten on anything in the history of oh yeah also people were coming at me i don't watch
the fucking nfl everybody out there i don't have a fucking opinion so don't don't leave me the fuck
alone leave my family alone you guys uh You've come to my house. No.
So I was only half watching that Bills game.
I said the coach once again pulled Tyrod Taylor for Peterman or whatever the backup quarterback's name was.
He was pulled.
See, you're getting in trouble again.
He was pulled this time because Tyrod Taylor was hurt.
So he had to put Peterman in.
I admit that. I wasn't paying enough attention. It wasn't racially motivated this time.
was researching the bias against black quarterbacks in the NFL and college football and had just read an article about how statistically black quarterbacks are way more likely to be pulled than white quarterbacks,
like after only a couple mistakes.
And then that weekend, Tyrod Taylor, who had something like 13 touchdowns and five interceptions on the season,
I think like 13 touchdowns and five interceptions on the season was pulled in favor of this guy, Peterman, who then came in and threw a record-setting number of interceptions in the first half.
But, yeah, I cheapened my theory by bringing it up in the context of Taylor being pulled in the playoffs.
So I am sorry, Buffalo.
I'm a fan of your city.
My granddad used to coach there when you had an NBA team.
I have a dope Buffalo Braves t-shirt.
Shout out to Anita Sirwacki from Cracked Social Media Head.
Shout out to Bob McAdoo.
And shout out to Bob McAdoo.
And yeah,
so sorry,
Buffalo.
Edgar, it's been a goddamn pleasure having you. Oh, I thankoo. Uh, and yeah, so sorry, Buffalo, uh, Edgar,
it's been a goddamn pleasure having you.
Oh,
I thank you.
Where,
where can people find you?
Uh,
you can find me on Instagram at awful Graham.
Uh,
you can find me on Twitter at Edgar Monk was here.
You can find me at the UCB theater.
I'm in a couple of dope shows right now.
Hey,
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So just look it up.
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And also you can find me
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Yeah.
Miles, where can people find you?
You can find me not watching the NFL.
So if you got any, I don't give a shit.
Okay?
You want to talk about the Premier League?
You want to talk about European soccer?
You want to talk about Lakers?
I'm here for that.
I don't watch that other shit, so leave me the fuck alone.
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Miles, do you have any music to play for them?
Yes.
So in honor, there was a story that came out about the Ye Tovin II performance that's happening at the Lincoln Center in New York January 18th where these young guys were sort of flipping Beethoven and Kanye West together, which got me thinking, like, one of the best hip-hop string orchestrations that I personally love is Miguel Atwood Ferguson's Suite for My Dukes, which is based off a lot of Jay Dilla's work.
So I wanted to play a little bit of that.
This is Fall in Love from the suite from my dudes.
Awesome.
That's going to do it for today.
We will be back tomorrow because it is the Daily Podcast.
Talk to you then. Thank you. guitar solo To fall in love
With those things you do
Don't sell yourself
To fall in love
With those things you do
One, two One, two
One, two
One, two
Don't sell yourself to fall in love
With those crazy little things you do We'll see you next time. Did you say a Caesar salad with lobster? Yeah. Whoa. Our second season is airing right now,
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In 1982, Atari players had one game on their minds, Sword Quest.
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I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports.
Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry.
Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.
Every great player needs a foil.
I know I'll go down in history.
People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.
Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.
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Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.
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