The Daily Zeitgeist - App 'n' Vizzin Pross 2/5: Apple Vision Pro, Subway, Box Office, The Grammys, SNL, Tucker Carlson
Episode Date: February 5, 2024In this edition of App 'n' Vizzin Pross, Jack and Miles discuss their respective weekends, Apple Vision Pro in the wild, Subway's footlong cookie, a box office update, the 2024 Grammys, a couple of pi...eces of trash getting blown into SNL, and Tucker Carlson interviewing Putin?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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hello the internet and welcome to this week trend edition a pretty soggy week trend edition here
monday morning it's soggers town yeah i. I am Jack. That is Miles.
We're Soggy.
Both of the locations where we live under flash flood warnings.
Yeah.
I mean, I feel like most of the city is.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And, you know, us being resourceful, you know, men who work with our hands.
Yep.
Exactly.
We got this shit under control
yeah threw up some threw up some pipeline down there on the roadside to keep the flow
all the way out my vector yeah if not into a depression you're gonna want that flow off your
vector man yeah for sure for sure oh yeah look at that yeah
we're the soggy bottom boys but that's because we've absolutely pissed ourselves in fear
um yeah my uh job is i wake up you know a couple times during the night and look out at the road until a car goes by and if it's driving and not floating
i'm like it's okay babe we're all good it's uh i mean yeah for people who don't know there's
it's called the fucking pineapple express i guess is what we're dealing with atmospheric river
yeah coming up coming up down from the hawaiian islands area down there they said something like the amount of
water that's being dumped is like the equivalent of like all of the water in the mississippi river
the mississippi yeah grand mississippi the grand mississippi los angeles the arid desert of
california so and you know how dramatic we are about any weather like we oh yeah we'll call a an event for you know my kid's school is
rained out currently that's wild that is wild is it rained out because of damage done to the school
like they're like oh man like it's like everything's just flooded or they're just like we don't want
to you know it doesn't know how to operate with when there's rain when there's water on the road
um and i mean our school is not the only one like the other big school in our neighborhood doesn't know how to operate when there's water on the road.
I mean, our school is not the only one.
The other big school in our neighborhood
also canceled
classes today.
It's fun.
Our kids didn't really have the experience
of snow days
up to this point.
It was fun to break the news to them
last night the classes
they're like what do you mean they're like it's so rainy that everyone that that everyone's become
lazy and fearful i i was asking or you know her majesty grew up on the east coast and we were
talking about like snow days and stuff like that and i was just thinking of like i only had one time i've okay i
only school only like shut down twice because of something the earth did one time there was a storm
when i was in first grade and that was because my my school was so poorly built like the like
my classroom like where the first grade classes were they just like there was a leak and like just
flooded like it just became like unusable so that's why i missed it the other time was the north ridge quake in 1994 yeah other than that
net fucking school always fucking happen you're going to school asshole yeah so yeah that's why
we're smart on the like in a lot of places a lot of different places but they were generally like
on that like midpoint between the north you know like mason dixon adjacent, but they were generally like on that, like midpoint between the North and,
you know,
like Mason Dixon,
a Jace.
And so they were places that would get a lot of snow,
like every other year.
And we're just like woefully unprepared for it.
And so like I had in Dayton,
when I lived in Dayton,
we had like a,
a week straight just off school from,
it was pretty wild. Like I still remember like every night we would like sit by the radio as they announced
school closings we're like yeah it's so psyched sitting by the radio wow yeah I even got my kids
to do I remembered from like when I was in kindergarten and had a snow day, we like did class.
We did,
we like did at home school with our like stuffed animals.
And I suggested that to my kids and it,
it worked.
It,
you know,
knocked out 15 minutes this morning of them teaching their stuffed animals
before they dropped a Lego and all hell broke loose again.
Yeah.
I think I've made that my overrated
before but fucking legos man well then let's let's see let's let's get into it i like that
i like the toys that don't break into a thousand pieces when you drop them that's why i play with
cinder blocks should we tell the people uh something we think is underrated. Yeah. Let's do it.
I guess we were all underrating the spookiness of deer.
Get Out
has a spooky deer.
I think that
really has been influential because
I don't know if you watch Leave the World
Behind. No, I haven't.
That has a flock, herd of deer,
and then Night Country, the new True Detective,
opens with a deer behaving spookily.
I think it's because they're an animal
that we think of as fairly docile.
And then to have like have you ever had
the experience of a squirrel running at you instead of away from you yeah and it's like
really fucking unnerving oh yeah yeah yeah yeah i feel like that's what where we are with deer
it's just the idea of a deer not running away from you is scary yeah and i think also just to see a deer do anything other than
just like poke its head up from like a like some meadow grass yeah and be like anything beyond that
like any sort of aggression or even fucking hard breathe if i could if a deer was like
yeah i'd be like
what are you doing he's like sorry i was running just out of breath and i'm like
oh fuck man he's got one arm up on on his car yeah holding up his other hoof like
fucking links man took a chuck out of my ass anyway sorry gotta quit smoking oh yeah i think
it's just because yeah i think we're just also served like such a sanitized view of nature all the time
where it's like, unless they're just posing,
then you're freaking me the fuck out.
Yeah, so I think it's a combination of
we recognize that the laws of nature
have flipped in some ways
that are threatening with regards to climate.
I also think that this is a secretly
a YouTube driven phenomenon because there are videos of deer that are like stalking people.
Have you ever seen those like deer that just get, I don't know that the explanation in the
YouTube video, which I'm guessing is not very scientific is like this deer is really horny for this one um like i i think
there's like something something wrong with the deer or something and it just like keeps following
the person around and it's like the the second like the deer is coming at you instead of otherwise
yeah like it really like gives me shivers it's's interesting because you search deer stalking,
and you're like, it's the Scottish pastime of old.
And I'm like, huh?
It's my hat, bro.
It's where I get this cool hat.
And then there's some cool deer crashing into a bus,
jumping through a bus window.
I've seen those.
And just going berserker.
Those are awesome.
Yeah, powerful animals.
Anyways.
The other thing that's also metal is when you see like the,
when they have like the horns, their antlers,
like when males get their antlers locked and one dies in battle.
Oh, I haven't seen that.
Dude, and then they just have a fucking head,
like a fucking decomposing skull attack like
locked into their antlers what yes that's a thing that can happen yeah because one of the fucking
deer will succumb in the fucking antler battle and then if they get locked up the guy's like all
right well i guess you're just coming with me and sometimes you'll see them like where like they
actually it's like hard for them to move because they have like they're dragging because they have another body stuff yeah that sounds you know good in theory fun in theory
but then you gotta drag a body around by your antlers yeah nobody likes that what uh what's
something you think is underrated miles um one something i think is Yeah, just show a jack that deer antler It's wild
It's most fucking metal shit
When you're like, oh this
This is my op
Yeah, and it's just a deer's head
Like the deer that you vanquished
Had just like staring you in the eyes
Yeah, and again
I don't know if it's deer or
Moose
Look man, I'm la man i can tell you
the difference kind of like i could look at weed and tell you if it's indica or sativa okay but
this a little bit harder um i think i think it's underrated fucking kids snacks uh they are the
ultimate they're the easiest thing to fucking eat. Oh my God.
So, you know, full disclosure, the Geist Child had, we had a little birthday at the park.
Jack came through, the family, producer Anna, many other people, friends of the show, family,
friends, everybody.
I got some QT with the QT. The number one official qt of la uh the geist child and also uh do what are you
supposed to do when like you i feel like you can't show a baby a new like more than one gift every
two days or they'll be completely fucking overwhelmed yeah yeah we got like a an inflatable
like uh his uncle got him like an inflatable like little rhinoceros like kind of
bounce around on yeah we showed him that and like another like really simple tool he was like oh uh
yeah and just went for like a balloon yeah especially at that age they're just like
uh they don't yeah that's too grateful i think is the word they're ungrateful and that that was
actually my over in but anyway so i bought a bunch of kids snacks and shit because
like we have a lot of friends with kids and things like that you gotta obviously have the spread
there for the kids to snack on some of these things the little the annies not the cheddar
bunnies but the birthday cake graham crackers cake graham cracker bunnies. Yo.
So good.
Yo.
I'm sorry.
Those should be illegal.
And there's part of me, too, that was like, I had, you know, like, I need a little sweet thing, like, at night after dinner. And I was like, okay, should I have, like, an ice cream bar or something?
And I just looked.
For some reason, I was like, oh like oh this thing 130 calories in a little
bag and i'm like i'm like this is health food so i ate basically yeah i ate three bags um that
didn't work out the way i wanted to yeah but between that the little i always eat like the
baby's little yogurt bites like you know yogis like i took a whole like family-sized bag of
yogurt bites from the party no you you tried to be modest you're like i took a whole like family-sized bag of yogurt bites from the party
no you you tried to be modest you're like i've seen a couple i'm like dude
fucking just take the fucking bag it's unopened and i'm trying to get home from
felt a little like taking a box of cereal from someone's house it was yeah that's how baller
hey jack that's how baller my parties on my man that's right man why don't you just take off with
that whole bag for you and you're like i was like yeah your kids will like them you're like right yes my my kids
love to eat these exclusively on their own um but yeah like the yogurt things i'm just i don't know
i'm just a fan of uh i think i have again a child's palate at times uh and it really agrees
with me and it's like the
textures are fun with the yogurt anyway so i gotta tell you man on the way home from the party i was
mixing the birthday cake bunnies with the yogurt bites and a wonderful mixture i gotta say you know
what and i realized how much it look those those uh birthday cake bunnies were a hit because in
like the 36 pack of things it was mostly mostly the birthday cake bunnies that were gone.
People were like, man, fucking cheddar bunnies.
The fuck got my face.
Get the fuck out of here.
Sorry.
Sorry to the cheddar bunny.
But, you know, I like you better when you were called goldfish.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
Yeah.
We took probably most of my family came through.
We showed up like an hour late.
Just took all the snacks and left.
I was like, yeah, I was wondering what your kids had
in those garbage bags they were leaving with.
I was like, do we have party fare?
And then Hermes is like, oh, I think they're just cleaning up.
They're such well-behaved kids.
I'm like, yeah, they cleaned up the fucking snack table.
Yeah, we got a couple of those gifts, man.
I'll give you back a couple. They're not really great for five and seven year olds yeah but also like your kids only one like so probably
my kids can probably hang on to for a little bit longer before your kids be able to use it
yeah yeah um just break it in for you yeah uh my overrated i mean the legos like but i think i've done that before because it's just a whole
weekend of anger frustration uh because with other toys if my five-year-old plays with my
seven-year-old's toy is just like that happened and it's over with and they forget about it and
it's no big deal but
like he tried to play with this thing that my seven-year-old spent like three days putting
together and like the fucking like one side of it broke off oh man it's just yeah i don't know
it's like a booby trap for just angst it's just a booby trap for like arguments and fights um my other overrated
people always talk about how easy it is to steal candy from a baby yeah that's bullshit man i know
look i yes i got to hold the guy's child for uh the first time we got along yes i stole candy
until we didn't uh they're like little burglar alarms, man.
Of all the people in the
world to steal candy from, babies care
the most.
Not easy
to steal. I'm going to say
stealing candy from me would be
probably the easiest.
Oh, yeah. It's like stealing
candy from Jack O'Brien.
Stealing candy from a non-confrontational person.
Right.
Exactly.
That is exactly who you want.
There's no smoke.
A baby will fucking scream.
Stealing candy from an introvert.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I guess if,
yeah,
I was,
yeah,
I probably shouldn't even eat those anyway.
Yeah,
exactly.
Yeah.
That's not good for me.
I was looking for an excuse not to eat it and also looking for
excuse not to have a confrontation so um you actually helped me so yeah thanks yeah babies
don't give a fuck man they will make you look like a fool again when you're trying to steal
candy out of their mouth grateful um so anyways but what wonderful time. Great to meet the Geist Child. What's your overrated?
Overrated is our understanding of, or at least Angelino's understanding of weather at all,
what any of it means, what the risks are.
Like you were saying, Jack, I think a lot of people got the like,
you're like, oh shit, fucking Amber Alert or something.
It's, you know, it's fucking flash. You're in a code fucking amber alert or something it's you know it's fucking flash
you're in a code fucking red flash flood thing and in my mind i'm expecting like i don't know
i again i don't know what the thing is i don't know what the fuck to expect when i see that yeah
and i'm like and i remember i was just telling uh my in-laws are in town they're like oh is
everything okay i'm like yeah yeah it's a cat's a code red as a flash flood thing it's gonna happen to be
yeah yeah just a code red they're like what does that even mean i'm like i don't know
to like go research like actually scientifically what is happening with flash floods and
because we are in an arid and also very highly paved urbanized area that the water
just at a certain certain point just has nowhere to go nowhere to seep to and then we get it in
the form of these floods but in my mind like to your point jack i kept being like i'm gonna go
out in the street and see if those fucking fire trucks are washed away yet um and no uh and it's
mostly really bad in areas like i think right now in
la like the the hill hillish areas are now hellish um with like you know mudslide mudslides and
things like that yeah and the fucking amount of water pumping through there um but intense but
yeah i definitely overrated what my own understanding was for things too. When I was like,
wait,
you can't drive through that.
Like I've seen videos on YouTube where people drive through there and then
they're like,
like the whole mantra in LA,
they've been like,
turn around,
don't drown.
And you're like,
what?
From that?
I'm,
I'm,
I'm a bit ignorant when it comes to that.
So yeah.
My wife,
uh,
drove to work this morning, made it fine.
So, you know, it's the...
But she's got a Cybertruck, dude.
That shit's fucking made for this kind of thing.
Bulletproof, first of all.
That was the first thing we tested when she got it.
We've been flipping those bad boys, man,
making a cool 80 80k each time to
flip in cyber trucks i actually know somebody who's doing that flipping cyber trucks because
they are like so trendy they are actually like it's like a fucking pair of jordans but like on
a scale of you know it's like a bag you can driveans but on a scale of... It's like a Birkin bag you can drive.
Yeah. They're going for
double the sticker price.
So people are just buying them and fucking
selling them.
What?
Crazy.
Dude, gotta get on your grind set, bro.
I fucking sold mine.
A guy convinced me I was losing money
on it so he offered me a third of what it was worth.
Take that off your hands. Fuck. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back mine a guy convinced me i was losing money on it so he offered me a third of what it was your hand
fuck all right uh let's take a quick break and we'll come back and uh talk about some other
fads that are now sweeping the world including the app and apple vision press the apple vision
pro app and vision cross apple the aspen vision processor app and vision process we'll be right Aspen Vision Processor. Aspen Vision Processor.
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and the app Envision Pro is here
Apple Vision Pro has entered And we're back. And the app Envision Pros is here. Drop us.
Apple Vision Pro has entered the public domain, so to speak.
And I couldn't tell.
So you're saying that a lot of these videos of people using them in public were like YouTube and TikTok influencers? A lot of people who like there's some people who are doing sort of like you know good faith uh
reviews obviously like you know marcus brownlee and stuff like that but they're also like a ton
of people who were just like content makers who have a lot of disposable cash and we're clearly
like dude when that shit drops we gotta make like 7 000 videos acting a fucking dumb ass with it
and yeah there's i mean i think it's a mix of things like the things that
i think got the most attention were obviously the ones that were the wildest shit like a dude who
was wearing the vision pro headset and then in his tesla on autopilot yeah just to be like i don't
give a fuck about you or me uh and i think that video ended with like the cops pulling him over
and then there was another one of like dudes trying to eat in a
restaurant with them on um another was like a dude just navigating new york city like going on the
train and shit going through the subway station with the headset on it's just like sure it was
just like one of those things it was really unremarkable i saw a couple videos of like
someone who was actually being like this this is me watching NBA league pass.
Like I got five games.
Right.
Like how someone would actually use it.
Yeah,
exactly.
Rather than being like,
we're going to go to this dim sum restaurant drunk with Apple vision pro
headsets on like,
okay.
The idea of using it in public seems so wild to me.
It's disgusting.
It's sorry.
There's no fucking other word. It's disgusting.'s i'm sorry there's no fucking other word it's disgusting
there are people there are video i don't know if these were influencers but there was like a guy
using it on the subway just like yeah looked like he was like returning emails or something i don't
know if that was a real guy but it just i uh yeah regardless of if that guy was genuinely
doing it or not just the sight of it in public is like, oh.
It's grotesque.
It really is.
I mean, so the thing about the experience of using it
is that it is like super high,
like the cameras are such that your vision is like very good, right?
Obviously, there are like icons in front of whatever you're looking at,
and there's a chance that you're
like returning email instead of looking at the road that you're driving but like you can see
extremely well if you want to the problem is that you look like you're wearing a fucking blindfold
like yeah it's just like that seems to be the main issue for me that I object to on moral grounds.
The only place you can wear this is at home.
And wearing it at home, whether or not you can see the people around you, it would be so isolating to be in a room with someone with that on their face.
That was one thing that
a lot of people like who were reviewing it were like it's really cool it's like but i can't get
over how weird it is to have this thick piece of hardware separating myself and like my lived
reality right uh and like trying to interact like as a thing like we're like i'm gonna use my
computer and put it on then sure like whatever But like in trying to do these other things,
it just felt a little bit like,
I don't know if I can move past by having to put a fucking tiny helmet on my
face to get through the day.
But yeah,
I think it's off-putting and it just,
it looks like antisocial and the price tag is prohibitive for most people.
Like,
I think it's an impressive piece of hardware and technology, but
it's just not
doing the thing that all the
revolutionary Apple products did, which
was being like, the obvious
answer to the technological question
you haven't even thought
to ask yet. You know what I mean?
And this feels like
face computer. And I'm like,
do I need face computer?
No.
It's just too much face computer.
We tried.
We called people who wore Google Glass fucking glass holes.
Yeah.
So there's that sort of perceptual obstacle to overcome.
And I just think there's just not like that use case for it yet.
Yes.
But I have a feeling it's probably like one killer fucking app away from people being like oh okay i think it's just one viral video of like someone cool wearing it and then i'm gonna be in
but like i truly like every time i look at it like my bones whisper asshole in my mind like
yeah back to you know it's just like the the asshole vibes is it because are given off
by somebody wearing it is it because of the cost and how stupid you look yeah it's like you're
paying so much to be so self-centered you know and you're just like so like don't do not give a
fuck about anybody around you don't talk to me here's a mortgage payment on my face
yeah my favorite uh tweet for the weekend was early on uh at quaker reina tweeted yay new kind
of guy to rob because the guy of the guy wearing it in the new york city subway oh my god you i
can't you know you know you're gonna get that shit snatched off your fucking face
i just don't we're just in a time of such be illegal like that's how i know
it should be like i mean yeah like they have the cops show up they're like what happened
they're like i was wearing an apple vision pro like on the fucking bus bro
okay i gotta go man actually i have to write you a ticket for being a dick yeah anyways uh another
trend that's sweeping the nation is subway's footlong cookie yeah this seems about right
we talked about it when it first came out i think you were gone the day we talked about it on trends
yeah but we were like we were we were discussing the merits of
their three their foot long offerings that they've put in front of people or churro a pretzel and the
cookie yeah and the cookie seems to be the absolute runaway winner smash it of it all What's crazy, it's a $5 foot long cookie.
$5 foot long.
Depression.
Yeah.
1,440 calories.
Reviews have called it a floppy sleeping bag of flour and oil that somehow doesn't have enough flavor.
That's mean.
That is from, um, mass live.
Uh, so I don't know if that's like a local Massachusetts.
Yeah.
Well, I think that's like one of those like websites that they, like there's an equivalent
in every state or town and they all run the same story.
It's like a network of just fronts to make you feel like there's local news.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I've heard only good things.
It,
I mean,
I,
this speaks to me.
I don't,
I don't want it to speak to me,
but it does.
It,
it whispers from my bones.
Uh,
eat me.
It does not say anything.
Yeah.
Not from Apple vision,
crow,
a vision,
crow,
Apple vision,
pro vision, cross vision, crow Vision Pro. Appen Vision Pro.
Appen Vision Crow had you saying, asshole, but the footlong cookie.
Yes.
Yes.
Eat me.
You sick fuck.
Eat me.
The normal cookie is good.
Yeah, the normal cookies are good.
Subway cookies are good.
That's just the fact.
Throw it in that little toaster.
Yeah, but again, a foot-long cookie...
Sure.
I'm going to break it up in fucking thirds or fourths,
and you're not going to catch me being like,
let me hold it like a fucking baguette.
Yeah.
It's wild.
It's become so popular that they had to remove the footlong cookie from the app after
unexpected demand according to the company they've sold more than 3.5 million sidekick snacks since
January 22 and the pretzel and churro are still available on the app so presumably the majority
of those purchases have been the giant cookie shaped cry for help i've
heard the the pretzel and churro are like in a draw for the shitty the shittiest one like they're
really they're not good no one's been like damn the churro is not like people are sleeping on the
churro people sleeping on pretzel it's more just like i don't know yeah it's a churro it's fine
depending on what time of day you get it uh the pretzels like i've had auntie
ann's pretzels so great do i need it i mean a foot long auntie ann's pretzel i'm not mad to be honest
when i see that i just i want to fucking hit somebody with it i don't know why like something
a childish urge takes over me and if i had a pretzel that was like a foot long i would fucking
just swing that shit at somebody i don't know why whip it around yeah yeah i uh a writer jam was
pointing out that these are basically like phallic reinterpretations of existing foods
the churro was always this though i feel churro was always that just a foot long yeah so like i i don't know you know bigger yeah it just seems like that is there is
like i know freud is not like popular anymore he's like gone out of fashion in academic circles
but he really nailed it with like the dick obsession just like i feel like this would
be one of the first things that aliens would like come down and be like wait everything you're eating
like even like bananas and corn on the cob were not originally shaped like that we had to like
farmers had to specifically breed them to look like big dicks wait what did a banana look like
before it was just like kind of a sad little dick i guess like like kind of how like a like a smaller plantain kind of
looks and now it's just a massive phallus floppy fucking bananas yeah higher yield man they're
probably using the cover being like no i just get bigger yields and like meanwhile they're like dude
make it look more like okay so why your fucking hot dogs look like that i just feel like the
aliens would come down and they would be like embarrassed for us like on top of everything we're already doing yeah you guys don't recognize
they're killing their own planet and they're eating floppy churro dicks i don't know these
people they've lost the plot yeah but yeah let us know if you got the footlong cookie is it super
floppy does it depend on you know because some subways they they do it better
than others you know that's how it is with franchise five man they really got my ass with
that one i can't i can't think of footlong without the five dollar footlong but it's one of those
things too it's so clever it's so ingrained in your brain that you go and you're like oh right
this shit ain't five dollars no more no yeah all right uh we'll take one more break and
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And we're back um we're back quick check-in with the box office uh argyle was the number one movie at the box office this weekend um and also not real unbafo not bafo
vo for argyle made35.3 million globally,
which it reportedly cost between $200 million and $250 million to make.
Wait, is it like a very effects-heavy film?
That price tag shocked me.
When I saw the trailer, so much about this trailer confused me.
I was like, why are they going so hard on this movie that doesn't seem to have a real premise
beyond the premise of a lot of meta movies
where it's like this person is a writer.
There's like three 80s movies with this premise
where it's like the writer is involved in something
that comes to life and it's like,
are they writing this? And it's like, is,
are they writing this?
Is it?
And it's like, not that great a conceit.
Like,
I feel like I haven't seen it work out that well,
but it's,
uh,
yeah,
it's the Matthew Vaughn.
It's the Kingsman guy.
Right.
Oh yeah.
So those films always have a,
they're a lot of fun,
aren't they?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And there are like some cool stunts in the trailer that I i guess they're like just it's non-stop this was the promise right then
the other promise was like who is argyle who is argyle and like this would be a spoiler if you're
if you're waiting to see argyle spoiler alert for argyle but you may have read it but the spoiler i don't this isn't the
answer to the question who is argyle but um like a big reveal at the end is that this is a t up to
a cinematic universe kind of it's also like so this takes place in the kingsman movie universe
so it's just like a new movie in the Kingsman world.
Which, I don't know.
That doesn't, that's like not exciting.
No.
What did Matt Dufon tell them in their pitch?
And he's like, and this shit connects to my other movies people love on airplanes.
Right.
Which like didn't, the last last one like i feel like those have
had diminishing return um yeah well so but wasn't like the whole thing well yeah because there was
all this build-up about being like this is a this is like i think about some real shit right aren't
they like trying to fucking like tease something that this could be like a real life something
someone actually is
argyle or whatever are we talking about this earlier yeah yeah so there was a big conspiracy
theory that so so the movie did the thing that you know like a marketing department would pitch
like first pitch is like so we should actually so it's based on like this novel, this mystery writer or a spy novel
writer who like gets kidnapped because all her books are like coming true.
And so the government's like, oh my God, she knows too much.
Um, so they wrote a novel, uh, pretended, pretended the author of these novels is real.
The person Bryce Dallas Howard is playing.
And rather than people being like,
oh,
so that's a marketing stunt.
They were like,
wait a second.
This fake author doesn't have a real social media profile.
This fake author must be Taylor Swift.
And so there was like a big conspiracy theory because Taylor Swift,
a great writer also has been known to wear Argyle. Oh, I remember that. Right. And so there was like a big conspiracy theory because Taylor Swift, uh, uh,
great writer also has been known to wear Argyle.
Oh,
I remember that.
Right.
And they're like,
Oh,
so,
um,
case closed.
Uh,
but for the record,
it was not,
it's not,
it's not Taylor Swift.
It's not Taylor Swift.
They fucked up by not making it Taylor Swift.
I think like they should have just,
as everyone's like,
Oh my God god the real
agent argyle is they should have just like done a like abrupt cutaway to like b-roll of taylor
swift walking the red carpet right and just you know giving giving the people what they want or
just like yeah put the put dialogue in there that swifties would be like, just hoovering up. They're like, oh, I just hate midnights.
I don't mean to be the anti-hero, but I noticed there's snow on the beach.
Is that one of her songs?
Yeah, I'm just looking up a track listing of midnights.
It's called a little bit of weird improv there.
I mean, Bryce Dallas Howard give taylor swift vibes in the
lead role so i can see where they were coming from i mean they they did up by not running
with this because it seems like the only thing that could have been the most intriguing thing
about the movie was this brief moment where people thought taylor swift was ghostwriting
right the novels it was based on damn shots yeah matthew vaughn so sorry about that that was the most interesting thing
about what you just made um speaking of taylor swift taylor set new grammy records um in case
anyone cares about the grammys anymore uh the first performer to win uh the prize for album
of the year four times, beating
out three-time winners like Stevie Wonder, Paul Simon, and Frank Sinatra.
There was a minor controversy following her win because the award was given, handed to
her by Celine Dion.
It was Celine Dion's first public appearance in months due to health issues.
And she received a standing ovation, but then when Taylor Swift won, she didn't acknowledge Celine Dion's first public appearance in months due to health issues. And, you know,
she received a standing ovation,
but then when Taylor Swift won,
she didn't,
uh,
acknowledge Celine Dion enough for Celine Dion stands.
Uh,
she wasn't really looking at her when taking the trophy.
Uh,
and,
you know,
I mean,
it's big,
it's Taylor's moment,
but yeah,
I would say.
And also like, I'm surprised Taylor's like, okay, who's this lady who smells like poutine?
I'm Taylor Swift.
I'm the biggest fucking thing right now.
You think I need to fucking notice you?
Hey man, it's weird out here when you interact with pop stars and their fandoms, Taylor.
Like in the old days, it made sense to just speculate idly
about like, you know,
famous people's motivations
for their relationships.
But now you're talking about,
you know, a living religious icon.
So no, people aren't going to
fucking tolerate you being like,
ah, I think she's just like
trying to get back at her old boyfriend
or whatever, which makes sense.
You know, I wish I had, I wish I had an like trying to get back at her old boyfriend or whatever which makes sense you know i wish i had i wish i had an old boyfriend to get back at
i know i i didn't think it was like that dismissive or anything but i think well i think it's just part of because a lot of the people who are very critical of her use these sort of
seemingly misogynistic sort of lines of analysis to sort of discredit
her so it's like I think she is a genius
of a sort that
is like perfect for this moment unlike
anything we've seen
we don't know her shit
but I
don't yeah
we're not actively talking shit about Taylor Swift
it's fine it's like
whatever I think it's fine it's like yeah it's whatever i
think it's just very interesting uh but i i don't i don't know i will not bow to these people i'm
not bowing to them i'm just saying yeah whatever don't be mad at me yeah sure um joe alwyn hid you
i don't even know who the fuck that guy is yeah um but the other thing that was really interesting
for when you said oh nobody cares about
the other thing that you said that's interesting about like people not caring about the grammys
clearly jay-z and beyonce care about the grammys because when jay-z went up for his like dr dre
dr pepper impactor of the year like whatever and that's how you know truly someone has impacted
the world in a way that is beneficial to the most people.
Yeah.
He goes up there and takes the award, but makes this point about being like, you know, just like the math ain't really math.
And, you know, like this young lady, my wife, you know, she's got she's got the most Grammys in history.
But how come she doesn't have an album of the year?
And that was like a very interesting. was like that is true like how are you how are you one of you are not one of you are the
most grammy'd artist yeah and you haven't and you haven't had an album of the year
doesn't make sense but hey you know what the grammys are that's that's why you even boycotted
them jay because you even knew at a certain point when like dmx wasn't getting his shine for having like number ones and they're like we can't who is this
guy the the guy who barks like a dog no no no no no no thank you yeah i mean i even boycotted him
this year i wasn't there last night yeah no i know crazy a lot of people were surprised a lot
of people yeah and i'm surprised it didn't quite get the coverage you kept saying it was gonna get you're like dude watch this when i'm not waiting to see this
man oh it doesn't matter it doesn't matter taylor now this is a new album dude they're gonna be
talking about me not being there she knows new album uh what else the fast car thing was
really cool uh chas chapman performed for the first time in a long time um and that song is good
it turns out and every time oh hell yeah it was like the whole world was having the same experience
i have every time i hear that song i'm like wait a second this song fucking rules you know right
just like god damn i have so many feelings right now that I wasn't prepared to when I was just
turning on
FM radio for the first time
in 10 years.
But anyways, great performance
from Tracy Chapman.
And Killer Mike
won three Grammys, then got arrested
on a misdemeanor charge following an altercation
in the building.
What the fuck happened?
He was led away from the venue in Hancock.
I don't think we know yet enough to know what happened.
Did they really have to arrest him?
They seemed to think they did.
LAPD.
Right.
And we can usually trust them and their motives.
Just wait to see this thing play out, man.
After alleged altercation. altercation what is yeah what happened what is going on uh misdemeanor
battery what did he like shove somebody anyway i like that the at least there's conspiracy theories
about it yeah the conspiracy theories are that uh he refused to endorse b Biden on the Bill Maher show two days earlier.
Why are you going on the fucking Bill Maher show, dude?
Yeah, right.
Man, he didn't endorse Biden on Maher?
On Biden on Bill Maher?
Damn, dude.
Straight to jail for him.
Yeah.
I just like that meme.
It said,
Killer Mike arrested the Grammys.
This is what they'll do
if you don't endorse their candidate.
That's true man or he may have gotten a fucking put his hands on somebody or some shit the cops are right there and had to do something i don't know i don't know yeah i don't think there
needs to be a vast conspiracy for the lapd to uh arrest Killer Mike. You know? It feels like kind of their natural.
With that message he's talking?
Yeah.
Maybe they're not big Run the Jewels fans or something.
Yeah.
Nikki Haley popped by SNL.
So fun.
Oh, so fun.
Did you watch it?
Did you see the thing?
I saw like a segment where i was like oh this
isn't i first second was like this is a deep fake like in my mind i'm like this is it happened this
can't be happening and then i was like nope this is on mb nope okay she was oh god you really put
nikki haley on there yeah and it was io adebri like hosting from from the bear from like the comedy scene like uh you know everybody who
likes comedy was super excited to see her hosting and even before she got to do her monologue the
show uh had like a random cameo from nicki haley in the cold open uh where she got to like io
was like you know asking her what the cause of the Civil War was.
I love that.
That was something she had expressed some ambiguity about.
So she was like, what was the main cause of the Civil War?
And do you think it starts with an S and ends with a lavery?
And Nikki Ailey got to basically apologize for having done that so like
just a quick quick hit i don't know what they think they're i think it's like they're doing
the thing where they're like we're sorry that we were we were putting trump out there and doing all
this other shit but hey what if we put another vile right-wing creature on the television to normalize
them in the hopes that that makes trump angry yeah like probably you don't need to help fucking
nicky haley with anything uh but great i wonder i is dean phillips gonna be on too democratic hopeful yeah i doubt it doesn't seem likely did they ever have bernie on
i wonder i don't remember who knows i don't think he hosted maybe in a reference to the
mittens meme like after he was no longer and i feel like the closest they came was like having
larry david play him i feel like that was the thing that they were always
doing. So, who knows?
But just don't
have fucking political candidates on
your show. It's not
funny or iconic.
It actually wasn't the
only right-leaning culture war moment of the
night. SNL also announced that the
next episode host was going to be
Shane Gillisis the guy hey
the man for my dreams oh yeah that's right your co-host from your dreams yeah my dream
hired and then fired from the show um and yeah the after uh videos of his podcast resurfaced
online in which he made racist homophobic islamophobic and misogynistic jokes and yeah i don't know i guess it's not shocking since they keep inviting
well he's done so much better not on snl it's like his that he is so much more popular than
he would have been uh if he was on snl it's funny how how I think it was someone, I think Gutfeld, who was like, this is kind of poetic.
So, you know, SNL.
Gutfeld! You know, so like
Shane Gillis, he was supposed to be on
SNL, and then he didn't get on. I mean, I think
he's a lucky guy. He's like one of those guys who
you know, he misses his
flight, and then he gets there right at the
gate, and he watches the plane
take off, only for it to crash, but he wasn't
on the plane. that's like what Shane
Gillis do that's a no I mean that thing's such a
disaster
and yeah now he's the face of Bud
Light
he's like Bud Light is
doing their win back the trans
phobes campaign
and so they're partnering with Shane
Gillis
got him out there
I mean he definitely has done better not on SNL than And so they're partnering with Shane Gillis. He's got them out there.
Yeah.
I mean, he definitely has done better not on SNL than he would have on SNL.
I mean, SNL, it's not like, it's a very specific path, you know, SNL.
It's not always going to get you, you don't go the Will Ferrell, you know, Tina Fey, you know.
That's like a very, that's the exception.
Most of the time,
you'll end up being on some other show. I was on
for a season. I was on two sketches
and I was chewed up and spit out.
But also, a lot of great people there.
I don't know.
He gets to do the grievance thing.
The comedy world's
Kyle Rittenhouse.
I would be so i'd be so
fucking smug if i got like i'm surprised he did it what what's is his whole monologue gonna be like
you know i was gonna be on this show but i was doing like chinese people jokes real bad on this
uh podcast i was doing so i don't know i I guess I could have handled that. But I'm back, baby.
That monologue
is going to be really odd.
Oof. Yeah.
Somebody retweeted
Norm MacDonald's monologue
from when he got fired
and then a year and a half later they asked him to come
back on.
So, we'll see.
Oh, boy.
Tucker Carlson's going to interview putin i guess i don't know i'm he is acting like he's about to just with all the he's in moscow everybody's like i don't know
he so last fall he claimed an interview he had tried to interview Putin,
but was stopped by the US government,
which sounds like complete bullshit.
What?
No, you must not. It would be too powerful.
Oh yeah, but hey, I'm Sean Penn.
I'm hanging with El Chapo later.
Yeah.
They're stopping you.
I love that. That's the perfect
kind of thing to say for Tucker Carlson. Dude like dude the shoe would have been so based right that the government had to stop
me bro it would have been me and zadimir poot zen because we're putting in a couple zins later
you know what i mean oh someone else i forget someone in zeitgang uh was speculating i was
saying like that they
believed that that whole nicotine thing was like a way for tucker to kind of get off like stimulants
that he was into oh yeah illegal ones so that was like his cessation was like i was like bro
them nicotine packs ain't hitting like a like yeah yeah but his uh his last twitter post
is a video segment in which he gives advice for a fan about their male pattern baldness.
Like he's just like straight up.
What's his advice?
The men in your mother's family should have done better genetically.
His advice.
I actually watched it.
His advice is like, dude, nobody cares what a fucking guy looks like.
Guys looks are completely unimportant.
You should like wear a bad wig or shave your head.
Is that what he said?
Yeah.
Yeah.
You should wear a kind of,
he's doing like a,
he's doing a bit,
you know,
he's being funny and talky,
but it sucks.
Uh,
that he's like now.
Yeah.
He's just gone like full YouTube influencer,
but yeah.
Uh,
Russian state media is making it sound like they're just waiting to
make a big announcement they were like we have nothing to tell you currently if such plans are
to be carried out we will inform you uh love love the russian-ness of that um but there yeah there
are like reports that tucker has left his hotel and is en route to interview putin um people are hyping this up like it's some kind of
like daredevil stunt but like people have been interviewing putin for years like i i guess not
since he invaded ukraine but i mean this guy's been like killing people for years and people
just like you know the nbc interviewed him in 2021 cnbc interviewed him in 2021 uh oliver stone like
spent a whole week with him for his weird show in 2017 so yeah well i mean it's just a way to
i think again it's it's just hype that's created by him to make it feel like it's bigger than
anything you know because of his because of the shit that's happening with russia
and ukraine and stuff it's like the fact that i'm gonna go talk to this guy means like i'm saying
that this guy might have a point that we should listen to maybe because i'm gonna go there right
he was like kind of pro-russia on the whole ukraine thing yeah yeah dude i'm surprised he's
not he's probably gonna go get some kind of fucking medal of honor and shit that's good
steven seagal is gonna put on his neck steven se fucking Medal of Honor and shit that Steven Seagal is going to put on his neck.
Steven Seagal.
I do wonder if Steven Seagal is going to be there, if he's going to make it, or if Putin has cast him aside as no longer useful.
I feel like Steven Seagal would get on your nerves.
Even though he's not the most gregarious dude.
He's just so brooding and fake intense.
He's like, yeah, yeah Vladimir I was opening a button
like to shut up dude I don't know how did you get in here like I am the richest man in the history
of the world via like all the money I've stolen like you don't have to like make up lies to
impress me I don't I'm just like find it interesting that you can do whatever you do
in those movies leave me alone um just eat that big big novelty sized carrot that i handed you
oh man yeah well good luck asshole yeah let's see if you get you get that propaganda scoop of the week because it'll be replaced with something
very quickly
I'm sure it'll make waves and it's a good
move for whatever it is that he's trying
to do but sell more fucking
zins dude
could you imagine it's him and Putin
talking about zin
Vladimir I mean I'm sorry putin do you mind if i
i ask you something because uh obviously this is this is a very interesting product and for me
the word zin is kind of loaded uh it's author of a book that i think is actually inspiring a lot
of anti-american sentiment it's called The People's History of the United States, written by Zinn. This is the one
Zinn that I do agree with
every day, every second.
And I just wanted to
connect the two. I don't really have a catchy
sales pitch after that. I just thought I would.
Fuck the Linsky.
Pack like three
Zinns.
See?
See?
Yeah, there. Fine. Great. We've done it. Alright. Well, there. Fine.
Great.
We've done it.
Done.
All right.
Well, those are some of the things that are trending on this Monday morning.
We are back tomorrow with the whole last episode of the show.
Until then, be kind to each other.
Be kind to yourselves.
Get the vaccine.
Don't do nothing about white supremacy.
And we will talk to you all tomorrow.
Bye.
Bye. Bye.
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