The Daily Zeitgeist - Are The Beatles Cool? Trump’s Hollywood Star Is A Lie 6.24.19

Episode Date: June 24, 2019

In episode 419, Jack and special guest host Laci Mosley are joined by comedian Tiff Stevenson to discuss some Bachelorette drama with super producer Anna Hossnieh, how the Dominican Republic is cancel...ed, a new member of the hundred billion club, the new scammer in charge of the Department of Transportation, the new Beatles movie, how to get a star on the Hollywood Walk Of Fame, and more! FOOTNOTES:1. The Bachelorette Contestant Jed Wyatt's Ex Says He 'Ghosted' Her After Filming Ended2. Your questions about the Dominican Republic tourist deaths, answered3. The World Now Has Three People Worth More Than $100 Billion Each4. House Dems Fear Retaliation as They Ready Investigation of Elaine Chao5. A ‘Bridge’ to China, and Her Family’s Business, in the Trump Cabinet6. Elaine Chao and Mitch McConnell’s potential conflict of interest, explained7. Transportation Secretary Still Owns Stock She Pledged to Divest8. Watch The Trailer For Musical Comedy Yesterday About The Only Guy Who Remembers The Beatles9. Trump Buys Himself a Star on the Walk of Fame10. West Hollywood City Council votes to have Trump's Walk of Fame star removed11. How to Get a Star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame12. Why the heck does Donald Trump have a Walk of Fame star, anyway? It’s not the reason you think13. Donald Trump’s Vandalized and Abused Hollywood Star: A Brief History14. WATCH: Billie Eilish - bad guy Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:18 It's Monday, June 24th, 2019. My name's Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Jerk and a Cobb aka I Jack Boner those are some anagrams courtesy of somebody whose name I failed to write down but I'll get him later and I'm thrilled to be
Starting point is 00:02:36 joined by my lovely and hilarious and talented guest co-host Lacey Mowgli hey okay I came prepared this time because Jack flamed me I wrote this aka talented guest co-host Lacey Mowgli. Hey! Okay, I can't prepare this time because Jack flamed me. I wrote this, a.k.a. Here I go.
Starting point is 00:02:52 I'm gonna take my scam to the old town road. I'm gonna con till I can't no more. I'm gonna take my scam to the old town road. I'm gonna con till I can't no more. I got your social in my bag.
Starting point is 00:03:08 Your credit card's a max. I've got so many wigs and fake addresses, you'll never find my ass. Should have timed that one better. Can't nobody catch me, no way. All the warrants are in your name. There you go. There you go. Damn.
Starting point is 00:03:24 A little insight into your methods, too. Wigs, putting the warrant in our name. Yes. Yeah. And it's me,
Starting point is 00:03:34 Lacey Mosley, a.k.a. Scam Goddess. What's up, y'all? What's up? It's good to have you back. Yes! I appreciate the effort and the execution.
Starting point is 00:03:44 You nailed it. Thank you so much, Jack. I do this for your approval. I know. Thank you. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious and talented Tiff Stevenson. Hi.
Starting point is 00:03:55 What's up? Welcome back. Thanks. I didn't prepare anything like that. I was just blown away by it. I was like, yep. Yeah. I'm just going to say hi, and it will be so anticlimactic no um but thank you for having me back your accent is is enough of a pleasant
Starting point is 00:04:11 surprise i'm sure for the list i'm sure that there are some people out there who are anglophiles who are semi-erect right now uh all right tiff we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're gonna tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking about today, such as an update on The Bachelorette. Something happened with a gentleman by the name of Jed Wyatt, and we're going to bring our eye on on the prize on where we want to be right we all want to be 100 billionaires here and in america we're gonna check in with our recurring segment is the dr canceled we're gonna talk about the fact that it was coming back. Elaine Chao, who is Mitch McConnell's wife and the new Scott Pruitt. We're going to talk about the Beatles because these guys are back in the news. The Beatles, have you heard about these guys? I've never heard of them.
Starting point is 00:05:18 They have a new movie. They don't have a new movie coming out, but there's a new movie about their music coming out called Yesterday that Lacey has seen. She got a sneak preview. Scam. Scam. And we're going to talk about Trump's star on the Walk of Fame and just stars on the Walk of Fame in general. What the Walk of Fame is. Why we shouldn't give a shit about that.
Starting point is 00:05:42 But first, Tiff, we like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history that is revealing? Oh, okay. Revealing from my search history since I've been here, because I've seen it a few times, and my boyfriend, sorry, fiancé. Sorry, my fiancé is also in the studio. Past French and fancy. Yes, we got engaged at Christmas. Oh, congratulations, you two.
Starting point is 00:06:04 He'll be excited when he finds out as well. No, he's wearing a T-shirt with the foot sign from Silver Lake. And so I was searching the history of the foot sign in Silver Lake because I've seen it every time I've been to LA. And it's the happy foot and sad foot. And one of the feet is on crutches. It's all kind of a bit bizarre because the feet have got hands and feet
Starting point is 00:06:28 attached to the actual feet. Yeah. But it's from a shop called YQ in Los Feliz and every time I go, I buy some t-shirts from there because they do. He's modeling it. He's modeling it so well.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Wow. Wow, look at that turn. Yes, turn to the, okay. yes okay so yeah it's a cartoon drawing of a foot of a happy foot that looks to be giving the thumbs up yeah yeah and then the other foot you described it as sad foot but it seems like it's yawning and uh yeah on crutches with a bandage. Yeah, a broken toe. Thumb toe. Yeah, big toe. Yeah, thumb toe. This is the first time I've seen this. I've never seen it either.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Is this an LA staple? Yeah. Oh, it's a staple of the eastern regions of Los Angeles, apparently, because Anna Hosnia is looking at Lacey and I like we are idiots. Oh, it's great. I live in East Hollywood. I've never seen this. It spins around.
Starting point is 00:07:26 It spins? Yeah, so you get the happy or the sad, which I think is probably, for people who live over that way, a sign of like, is it going to be a good day, bad day? It's like seeing magpies. Do you have the magpie thing here? Oh, in the UK, we have a thing where if you see one magpie, it's bad luck, but if you see two, it's good luck.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Is that like a horse poop? A magpie, yes. It's a bird bird i don't know what you call them here that is a black and white bird they're called magpies yeah yeah uh lacy's just not a bird watcher so if you see one it's like it's one for sorrow two for joy three for a girl four for a boy i don't even know it's just a stupid rhyme like in the uk everything has to rhyme for no fucking apparent reason anyway so yes it's it's um so this i think people view it like are you seeing the happy foot or the sad foot which one are you going to see and i like to take um kind of messages from machines and signs and stuff i'm a bit like steve martin in la story right uh-, I take my, on the tube at home. Your cues.
Starting point is 00:08:28 We have a little, you have an oyster card where you tap your card. Yeah. And sometimes it will say incomplete journey. And I feel like that's spiritual advice. Damn. Rather than financial. Does that mean like you're going to die? Yeah, maybe. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:08:37 You're not going to make it to where your life was supposed to end. It's going to be cut short today. Yeah, I wouldn't want the MTA giving me their advice. What does it say on there when you tap yours? Fuck you. I don't know. The MTA is horrible. There's no words on those Metro cards when you swipe.
Starting point is 00:08:55 It just tells you how much money you have left. Yeah, it's all about money. It's just like, you need to give us more money. You are not rich enough. Right. That's basically what we take from it. Yeah, I used to do a thing where I would put my phone or iPod even back in the day on shuffle. And I would be like, I wouldn't let myself skip songs.
Starting point is 00:09:18 I would be like, whatever the journey is that my iPod shuffle takes me on. That is like what I'm, how I'm supposed to be feeling at that moment. That's very revealing about your personality. Yes, exactly. It's like a magic eight ball, but with iTunes. So I like that taking,
Starting point is 00:09:34 taking cues from technology. Well, yours would be, fuck you. I won't do what you tell me. So I guess it would be rage. Right. There you go.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Yeah. I mean, you did give me an idea with those magpies, though, and everybody else out there. If you guys are still doing those gender reveals, release some birds. Yes. Yeah. Three for a girl, four for a boy. I'm going to encourage that problematic party just because I like parties.
Starting point is 00:09:56 More parties. What is something you think is underrated? Oh, okay. Underrated, changing your mind. Underrated is changing your mind. Underrated is changing your mind. Yeah, yeah. I think we're sort of very glued to our opinions these days. And politically, especially, we punish politicians for changing their minds.
Starting point is 00:10:14 Because you call it flip-flopping here, right? Yeah. Yeah, you call it flip-flopping. In Australia, they call it thonging. Thonging? Thonging. Well, that's just a stupid joke about the fact that Australians call flip-flops thongs. But I like the idea that
Starting point is 00:10:27 they would have Cisco going around to politicians. But I think when information changes, your ideas should change. So let's give Donald Trump a chance, right? Yeah, I mean, but you know what I mean like in terms of like strong ideas loosely
Starting point is 00:10:48 held I think is the idiom that's said quite often so that you can be passionate and committed to causes and beliefs but you have to hold on to them loosely if you learn new information or something changes to not be so glued like I in the 2000s I bought a maroon 5 album yeah I stand by that now no I don't I think Adam Levine is a cock knock 5 album. Do I stand by that now? No, I don't. I think Adam Levine is a cockknocker. Am I allowed to say that on here? Yeah, whatever curse words. Yeah, with shit sailor tats in place of a personality.
Starting point is 00:11:15 Right. So this is the first time I'm hearing cockknocker, and I'm picturing somebody like, you know how people who crack safes will knock on it and listen? That's what I'm picturing. like do it you know how like people who crack safes will like knock on it and like listen that's what I'm picturing that sounds like a good image yeah yeah just like at someone's cock just like knocking on it and like putting their ear up to it is that that's probably not what it means yeah because I mean you say twat we say twat so you know we have our different we have our curse words are very right very different. I guess what I'm saying is don't get married to an idea.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Like I want to date some ideas, possibly cohabit for a while, then ghost them completely. Uh-huh. Okay. Yeah. I think this imagery is very promising. I'm sure for your fiance who's in the room. Don't get, act like you're going to marry the idea. I'm going to get engaged to ideas and then bring my ideas to a podcast and then have my ideas sit here.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Distract them. No, I think that's just generally good philosophical advice. Truly. I wish there was a way to publicize that more. The issue with politicians is they'll change their opinions but then lie and say that this was always their opinion. And I wonder why no one uses that to shut things down like i got more information and i changed my mind and more people should do that what a flex instead of just being like no i didn't say that in 2002 and then we roll the tape back like what yeah i don't know why deny became like the biggest thing
Starting point is 00:12:39 i mean it works for scams it does if. If you deny something long enough, you can change the whole narrative of truth. Right. Truth is an illusion. Well, I think if people feel trapped by being able to not make a mistake, I guess. Right. Whereas when you actually go, oh, yeah, I feel completely differently about this now. I'm sorry. That's or I've learned something and that was a bad thought or idea or like you know yeah I think admitting you've changed your mind based on new information is like an empowering thing because so many people like our whole media complex is
Starting point is 00:13:13 different people acting like even if they don't say I never held that belief they say whatever they're thinking now as if it was always this is the obvious thing that they've always thought that way. So yeah, I think just being like, yeah, no, I've changed my mind. I used to say that. And now I say this different thing. What is something you think is overrated? The royal family. Oh, come on. Damn, those are your people. They're not my people. They're the privileged people. They're not my people. I guess think um inherited wealth i i think inherited wealth is hugely overrated and that's kind of almost like why i like american culture to a certain degree because you have the hustle here right like that's what you got cardi b
Starting point is 00:13:55 right so in america you can be a stripper and then be a grammy winner and in the uk that would just never happen it just right yeah too much entrenched classism. So the money is passed around the same circles where I guess you have the American dream, you have the hustle, anyone can do a thing. And the royal family are just like sat on top of piles of money that have gone through generation through generation. And then they get more from us. And also the queen's face can be on some plates and mugs.
Starting point is 00:14:20 I think the reverse is true though. She actually has plates and cups with pictures of normal people on them. That's what eats off of yeah yeah people on their holidays in like the Canary Islands or Mexico or whatever accountant yeah this is uh yeah I I think America is really good at branding itself oh yeah as the thing as the land of opportunity where people can change and like the amount of money or the the class that you die in is mostly proscribed by the class you're born into in america it's just we don't like to talk about that yeah we have the brand really strong and then also we don't like to talk about the part of like most people um and not all but a lot of especially in entertainment like artists
Starting point is 00:15:06 and rappers and stuff who did change classes like that they had to do a lot of crazy shit and in a lot of cases crimes okay um and and then that's not to say that like white collar criminals don't exist they exist and they are very prevalent we just kind of like have a better way of looking at that stuff so it doesn't seem as the same as like oh i took you know all the money out of this dude's wallet like cardi b used to talk about how she used to do when she was stripping um it's the same thing to like rip off people you know even if you're in a suit and you're at a bank yeah yeah people i think uh a suit brings respectability when when it doesn't at all yeah yeah yeah i think guess, I guess it feels more self-made here
Starting point is 00:15:46 because, I don't know, like the Queen had a Christmas when she did her speech. She did it next to a gold piano. People were like, in like times of like real financial austerity and everything else, is it a good idea for the Queen
Starting point is 00:16:00 to be doing this speech? A gold piano. Solid gold piano. Solid gold piano. And they're they're like well she inherited it so it's fine and you're like people are sleeping on the streets it's not fine let's stop playing the it's fine game no she cried she just wiped her tears with money yeah right so and then piers morgan defended it kind of going what do you expect you want the queen in front of a gold piano but in like two tweets earlier he'd criticized chris jenner for having a handbag that said something on it like uh filthy rich or something and he was
Starting point is 00:16:30 like this is disgusting and you're like i now you're making me defend the kardashians which is unacceptable yes i never want to be that person but i'm like why is it not okay for her to have made her own money and be flashing it around kind of going look how much I have. It's not okay for Kris Kardashian, but it's okay for the queen. Why? Why? Yeah. At least Kris, like, made hers by selling her daughter's sex tapes or whatever. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Exactly. Like, that's what I mean. Don't make me defend that. But the point is, what's the difference? She's a great American. I mean, by the terms of, you know, self-made and, you know, working outside of the system to, you know, come up. Mummager.
Starting point is 00:17:09 It's even, that's a new phrase that kind of sounds like dowager was an old phrase, wasn't it? For someone who had like a dowry to give, like who wanted to get married. She's a mummager. It almost comes from that old like kind of class. Right. Yeah. Sounds like it could be from the old system. Yeah. kind of class right yeah sounds like it could be from the old the old system yeah that is
Starting point is 00:17:26 interesting though that the idea of the queen giving a speech in front of a golden piano is defended as but she inherited it so that's okay whereas like that is the ultimate thing that like americans would not admit to is like having inherited their wealth like trump was a multi multi-millionaire by the time he was five years old but he claims to be a self-made man because he got a loan right for millions of dollars you know million dollar loans right you never have to pay back yeah yeah you can't call it a loan if you don't return yeah i want to see if he paid it back oh he never paid it back yeah i'm sure in some way he thinks that he did. So loaning is even a brand.
Starting point is 00:18:08 Right. Like, yeah, my parents loaned me. No, they gave it to you. A loan has to be paid back. Yeah. Finally, what is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false?
Starting point is 00:18:18 That men can't compliment women anymore. I sort of keep hearing this now in the light of kind of Me Too that it's like you can't even compliment a woman anymore and i say you can you just may not get the response you want right like you've always been able to oh the caveat to that also is like if he's shouted from the top of a building right or out of a moving car if like the doppler effect applies to it yeah nice tits
Starting point is 00:18:40 right then it's a compliment right yeah i yelled it to you at 8 a.m right that's when it tips into like sort of street harassment right right so there's but you can still pay compliments but we're hearing a lot now like we just can't even talk to women and we're like yeah you can just you're gonna be called out if you're a dick yeah so i'm sort of tired of hearing from guys no you can't even yeah i just want to put a psa out there to those guys, which is that if you're saying that, you're a nasty, creepy motherfucker. And here's why. Because if you feel like you can't talk to women anymore,
Starting point is 00:19:12 that means the way you were talking to women before was trash, okay? That means what you were doing was wrong. And now you're like, man, you can't even grab a woman booty no more. I'm like, no, sir, absolutely not. You have a problem. I've never met a normal man who's come up to me and been like oh you look nice today oh you know what i shouldn't say that anymore because
Starting point is 00:19:31 i don't want you to sue me like people know the appropriate people who have a gauge of what's appropriate and what's not appropriate have never lost that it's just the people who were running amok because no one was you know reprimanding them that now feel stifled yeah what yeah you're you're you're hurting my right to be a douche right yeah so if you're saying that no you're gross no we know you're gross it's the same thing it's revealing for the same reasons people who are like you can't be funny anymore yeah it's like yeah so your brand of funny was just saying racist and sexist stuff the punchline was racism yeah Yeah, you liked punching down, and we no longer think that's as hilarious as we used to.
Starting point is 00:20:10 All right, guys, let's talk about The Bachelorette. Speaking of punching down, so we're going to bring in Super Producer Anna Hosnier, our Bachelorette specialist. Specialist? Expertise? Because this is what we're talking about. I don't want to lie. I don't want to say that this is what is being talked about
Starting point is 00:20:30 in the Daily Zeitgeist writers room when Super Producer Anna Hosnia gets in in the morning. Very late. I'm always late. Super Producer DJ Danil are talking about The Bachelorette and what happened. And it seems like there was some big news. You guys, this is devastating for all of us, obviously. You know, frontrunner, current frontrunner, we still have a little bit of time to go,
Starting point is 00:20:57 but potentially top fiver, Jed Wyatt, turns out he had a girlfriend this whole time. Devastating. How do we know that he had a girlfriend? Because the girlfriend felt wronged and sold her story to PeopleMag, as you do when you want to come for your reality TV boyfriend. As you do. Yeah. So he is making it through the gauntlet of bachelorette candidacy?
Starting point is 00:21:27 Yeah, so he's a singer-songwriter from Nashville. Okay. And he apparently told his girlfriend that he's going on the show because it'd be good for his career. It's huge. The amount of attention it'll bring him. And I guess she was like, all right, babe. I believe you, which is like, oh, honey, this is a bad. This is no never date a guy who's going to go on a reality show specifically about falling in love and expect them to come back and honor your relationship.
Starting point is 00:21:55 It's just not going to work out. So it's just very devastating because he he was a fan favorite. You know, he was always very, he's very charismatic. He seemed like down to earth, like he would make fun of himself. He was, he didn't seem like he took himself too seriously. And now this is a blow.
Starting point is 00:22:14 This is a blow to bachelor nations. Maybe he wasn't taking that relationship very seriously. No, clearly not. Cause apparently when he came back, he ghosted her. Oh. And that's when she was like,
Starting point is 00:22:23 a revenge is on. Like an opinion. Now, I just want to bring to light that they were allegedly dating for four months. Four months. So was this a boo or was this a boo take all? Okay, I don't know. Because it's hard to say somebody's in a relationship. As a con artist, it's hard to say that someone's in a relationship
Starting point is 00:22:45 because look you can't ghost on a marriage you know what i mean like you can but there's paperwork you know what i mean there's a paper trail we don't know that you signed some shit and said you was in a relationship with this person but if i say we not together no more guess what i can just stop talking to my boyfriend tomorrow and then i don't have a boyfriend no more right that's how boyfriends work yeah by definition by definition if i just don't see him and speak to him anymore i don't even have to give him an explanation we're not together right i think that jed jedediah assuming it's jedediah jedediah in reality what else could it be i think that he was single as a dollar bill when he went on the bachelorette and this girl
Starting point is 00:23:24 i mean i guess y'all were together the night before that don't mean nothing yeah right but could it be? I think that he was single as a dollar bill when he went on The Bachelorette. And this girl, I mean, I guess y'all were together the night before. That don't mean nothing. Yeah. Right. But I'm glad that she's getting her story
Starting point is 00:23:30 to people mad. I hope that she doctored all these text messages and that this is not even real. And I hope that she has a singing career that jumps off right after. Yeah, she's also
Starting point is 00:23:38 a singer-songwriter. Is she also a singer as well? Yes. Okay. Ooh. Yes. This is juicy. This is now like
Starting point is 00:23:42 Gwen Stefani, Gavin Rossdale. Yeah, yeah. She gotta come out with some song like The Bachelor. Do it Taylor Swift style. Gavin Rossdale. Yeah, yeah. She got to come out with some song like The Bachelor. I don't even know. There's a song there, girl. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:52 Will you accept this rose? Right. Yeah, yeah. I went on his Spotify and he's a horrible musician. So I was like, what did you think was going to happen? He thought this show was going to give you talent. Oh, everybody's a horrible musician until you get in the right hands. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:24:05 You just need some auto-tune and some Lil Nas X. Right. As we'll learn later, you can't even get a Hollywood star if you're a reality show. So he just DQ'd himself from having a career in many ways by going on The Bachelor. Yeah, well. But I agree with Lacey's analysis like this doesn't necessarily mean he had a girlfriend while he was on the show okay but there is information that apparently they went to the bahamas before he left and he said i love you oh oh now we're into the i love you you know how many
Starting point is 00:24:36 people i told i love because they took me to the bahamas i told everybody i loved them when i went to the bahamas but yeah we can still take mean, assuming the text messages aren't doctored, that is weird of him to be like, I'm just going on this to promote. I mean, that's just a douchey thing to say. When I come back, it'll just make us stronger. This is just good for my brand. It's on her. I know.
Starting point is 00:25:01 The minute he said he was going on the show, you're like, oh, we're done then. Right. Surely. Well, he also said that he was tired of his daddy having to pay his rent. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:11 So he had to. So he's going to be an independent talent show man. Right. Exactly. I have to go be independent on this reality show. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:19 I'm sure your dad is thrilled. Okay. I'm going to have ABC pay my rent. Right. So, but we don't know how it ends. He might win.
Starting point is 00:25:29 That's the thing. I would love it if he won. We don't know. So the bachelorette is somewhere just being like, mother fucker. If he won, she is strangling him to death right now. And he will be dead soon. We'll know if he dies in the next few days that he won. Because she's actually crazy.
Starting point is 00:25:45 She's known for being crazy. She calls herself Hannah Beast. I love it. She's the most fun bachelorette I think there's been in a while and she's such a significant reflection of the times changing for women because to get to see her just be making out and just riding on everybody like a pony
Starting point is 00:26:02 hunnid. She's just out at the carnival and the pony riding. Like everybody, she's on them. I love it. She'll go and pick another. Like a pony, hun. She's just out at the carnival on a little pony ride. Like everybody, she's on them. I love it. She'll go and pick another guy like, come on down. And no one's slut shaming her. At least I haven't seen a lot of that. No.
Starting point is 00:26:13 I'm very happy. I'm like, yeah, you better kiss on all them sexy ass men and then send them home. I think it's also because she's been like, I'm insane. I'm insane. I'm a mess. And I'm also formerly Miss Alabama. So you know I'm insane. I'm insane. I'm a mess. And I'm also formerly Miss Alabama. So you know I'm crazy. Right.
Starting point is 00:26:29 You know I'm not getting an abortion when this show finishes. I'm trapping someone tonight. That's actually an interesting thing. They won't let her comment on the Alabama stuff. Who won't? The Bachelorette? ABC won't let her comment. Oh, because they want everybody's money, honey. They don't't let her comment on the Alabama stuff. Who won't? The Bachelorette? ABC won't let her comment. Oh, because they want everybody's money, honey.
Starting point is 00:26:47 They don't need the conservatives to turn the TV off. They're like, someone asked her a question and ABC was like, cut, nope, don't answer that. So you literally threw their body in front of the camera. All right, we're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th, 2017 was murdered.
Starting point is 00:27:14 There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhearts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price.
Starting point is 00:27:42 Listen to Crooks Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes.
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Starting point is 00:28:51 or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season 4 of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch.
Starting point is 00:29:31 She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to
Starting point is 00:29:49 Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Carrie Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture.
Starting point is 00:30:07 Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them. Why is that? I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious.
Starting point is 00:30:33 She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to The Making of a Rivalry, Caitlin Clark vs. Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:31:10 and we're back and lacy the last time you were on we were talking about the dominican republic for a couple reasons big poppy uh the attempted assassination of big poppy that is now being claimed was a case of mistaken identity right uh i i don't i don't know it that suggests to me that maybe the media and the dominican republic is easy enough to manipulate that he could be like, I wasn't sleeping with anybody except my wife. Oh, right. They probably had that Beyonce PR team. They cleaned it up real good. Yes, they did. But another story that you brought to my attention while we were talking about that is that there have been a lot of media reports of people dying mysteriously in the Dominican Republic while on vacation, a lot of Americans dying mysteriously. And there were two stories of people having a drink from the mini bar and then dying in their hotel rooms in the Dominican Republic. And I don't know, it's now like now we are hearing from mostly conservative
Starting point is 00:32:08 outlets every time somebody dies in the Dominican Republic that is from the United States. So we wanted to look into this to see, is this a thing? Should we all cancel our trips to the Dominican Republic? Is the Dominican Republic canceled as a nation? So some things that jumped out to me. First of all, when you look at the statistics of how many people die in the Dominican Republic, how many U.S. citizens die in the Dominican Republic, it's 18 people die down there on vacation, essentially, every year. Which isn't a lot.
Starting point is 00:32:50 Yeah, but that's a lot of America. I mean, that's about the number I would have expected for the rate that we're finding out about every death that happens in the Dominican Republic. Yeah, exactly. We're on the right track to meet 18. Right. I like that you've got targets. Right. We're on track.
Starting point is 00:33:11 I can just see Lacey at the front of the conference room with the PowerPoint. Guys, as you can see by this latest death, we are on target. Our numbers are looking pretty good. Listen, guys. Out of how many? So like 18 American deaths out of a total of how many so like 18 american deaths out
Starting point is 00:33:25 of a total of how many deaths was in the dominican republic total yeah no like trips to the dominican republic oh yeah i have no idea yeah yeah and they they don't even usually like they don't keep the reason that these are 18 people who died of non-natural causes because they don't keep track of like how many people die of natural causes now if you want to know how many people visit in a year it's about 2.7 million so that's a lot of people yeah and it's probably a lot of older people yeah just because that's who goes on vacations for the most part it's like a lot of uh retirees and that's who is dying in a lot of these cases they're people. Time took them. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:05 Exactly. It's like, you know, people in their 50s and 60s are who, you know, like one of the dudes who passed away was one of the more mysterious deaths because both he and his fiance were found dead together. Yeah. So that's a happy story for you guys. Now the way that they reported that made it still seem sketchy because the Dominican, the coroners and the authorities there said that the man had passed away of natural causes
Starting point is 00:34:33 which when Jack looked into it he had cirrhosis and he had high blood pressure. So there are definitely some risk factors especially if you're going on a vacation where you're going to be consuming a lot. Was that minibar related then the cirrh related then this one they didn't say was mini bar related but the man was 63 and the woman was 49 and they said that the shock of seeing her boo dead then caused her to die as well we call this the notebook effect
Starting point is 00:34:58 died of a broken heart she grabbed his hand and then she was like i too decide to die and that's what the government reported to us and so i think that is also very sketchy there is medically a thing of dying from a broken heart where you can like have that happen it's very very rare but uh that i think they are saying it was shock or something but either way it just seems like it's being treated as it's one of those things that everything is going to look suspicious if you're looking for it but if they were 27 everyone would have gone suicide pact right exactly yeah yeah like it would have been sid and nancy kind of right well not even that wasn't a suicide pact just i i am aware of that right um so just before everyone calls up and goes that is like it would have been Sid and Nancy kind of right and not even that wasn't a suicide pack
Starting point is 00:35:45 just I am aware of that right um so just before everyone calls up and goes that is not what happened to Nancy right um but yeah so so if they were young people would assume it was something that they right and even then it still could have been who knows but like I mean vacations are a time when you're uniquely susceptible to death from like things that are considered natural causes. But it's like heart attacks and, you know, you eat worse, you do things your body isn't used to, you drink more. And like the number one time that people die in the United States, like just annually is Christmas. And the media writes about it as though it's like a people are dying from depression and suicide but it's actually like what we eat and drink and like celebrate like celebration is what
Starting point is 00:36:31 kills us we die from like drinking too much eggnog yeah too much eggnog yeah celebration is killing yeah exactly but that's not like a fun thing to think about you don't like that that's not a story that you want to hear so no they want to say the Grinch took you right the Grinch shrank your heart until it couldn't pump blood through your body anymore um yeah so I don't know it just seems like this is maybe not a real story like maybe the media is conflating this yeah and it's also you tend to see it being covered in conservative outlets and With fear tactics. people from Central American and South American countries. And I don't know. It seems like it's maybe more tailor-made for the audience of the New York Post who are covering this like it is Ebola outbreak.
Starting point is 00:37:34 Well, I'm going to say the DR is canceled. Okay. I'm coming out with an island, guys. So stay tuned. It's going to be way better than the Dominican Republic. I've just been to Greece, and you can just pick them up for a few million around there. Just buy one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:49 Because I went to where, I think it's Scorpios, where Jackie O was married to Aristotle Onassis. That's pretty cool. And he bought two islands, and then he bought the smaller one next to it for his son, just for a gift. Right. So he's like, why not? Yeah. It's your birthday.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Have an island. Yeah. Going to party like you've got an island right so when we get this island up and running guys i promise you no deaths you'll never hear about any deaths well speaking of people with that much money there is a new member of the hundred billionaire club uh lacy you're better at saying his name than i am oh okay this is a rich ass name too okay Bernard Jean Etienne Arnault yeah
Starting point is 00:38:30 four names when you got a billion dollars you need four names gonna hazard a guess at French yes Bernard Jean Etienne Arnault he is a French business magnate investor and art collector who joins Jeff Bezos and Bill Gates. So we were curious, like, where, so we know what Jeff Bezos got rich off of.
Starting point is 00:38:55 We know what Bill Gates, like, you can't not see the, you know, the cause of their wealth. What is this dude, like, what did he do that uh has changed the world he is the chairman and chief executive of lvmh uh which is moet hennessy louis vuitton like basically all the world's luxury goods companies are owned by the same dude lacy's like is he single now because i love all these i love my way. I love Louis Vuitton. Christian Dior. Yeah, so he bought, he's self-made.
Starting point is 00:39:31 Because his dad gave him a $15 million loan so that he could buy 97% of Christian Dior. And then he expanded his business from there. His dad gave him a $15 million loan. Yeah, and I don't know if he paid his daddy back,
Starting point is 00:39:47 but he got that loan in 1985. 1985. Oh, okay. So he might be a little bit too old for... Yeah, he's 70. Although having said that, sometimes older is better. Just grease the stairs and shout fire.
Starting point is 00:40:03 That's how that works. Tiff, enough of the humming scares. Just wondering if you're... times older is better just grease the stairs and shout fire yeah you guys are taking notes for different reasons i think lacy and fire okay um he also owns Sephora, which I found interesting. Like, that's huge. That's a huge makeup company. He's worth $100.4 billion. Do you know what a.4 is when you're talking about billions of dollars? $400 million. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:40:37 I can't even fathom it. It's such an insane amount of money. I've been thinking about this a lot recently because they're all in the space race now because they know that Earth is fucked. So they're all trying to get up into space. They are. Bezos and Richard Branson, who's one of the UK,
Starting point is 00:40:53 Elon Musk, my least favorite fragrance. They're all trying to get up into space. But I kind of think like, surely there's a point where you actually do more harm if you have that much money. There should be a thing like the Hippocratic Oath, but for billionaires, where you have to do no harm. Because you're taking billions out of circulation, right? And people who work for Bezos, like Amazon employees and stuff like that, who are in the UK, I think it was last Christmas.
Starting point is 00:41:18 I'm looking at Paul just to see if he could confirm this. But there was a story that they were working such long hours and being paid so poorly that they were sleeping in tents in the wood right so they didn't have to go home and come back like so like the you know if you have that amount of money you have to be doing some philanthropy like gates is you know like there are people that are trying to do good or put money back but not enough no one needs a billion dollars jk rowling unbillionaire'd herself didn't she yeah she did because she gave it away because she has a heart.
Starting point is 00:41:47 Women, that's our only weakness is we're kind of still good and human. Yeah, I feel bad for you guys. Must be difficult. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:41:59 but if there was a Hippocratic Oath for billionaires, there would be no billionaires. It would be a contradiction of terms. Yeah, because there should not be a billionaire. Yeah, that's the question of whether there's a Hippocratic Oath for billionaires, there would be no billionaires. It would be a contradiction of terms. Yeah, because there should not be a billionaire. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:06 That's the question of whether there's a way to become a billionaire ethically is. No way. Yeah, it's just not. It can't happen, I don't think. Well, let's talk about Elaine Chao. She is Mitch McConnell's wife, and she is the Secretary of Transportation, and she is also a massive fucking grifter. So I thought I wanted to bring her before the expert to kind of get your thoughts on Elaine Chao. So she owns stock in a huge gravel company,
Starting point is 00:42:47 gravel like the stuff we build roads out of. And she signed an ethics agreement saying she would divest from that since ethics people were like, are you fucking kidding me? The stock for this company that she owns like a massive share in goes up every time someone mentions the word infrastructure week. And like, that's what she's in charge of now. So she basically gets to, by controlling policy, determine how well her stock does. I smell a conflict. Yeah, it's a massive conflict of interest. And she was like, of course, it's a massive conflict of interest. That's why I'm going to'm gonna divest guys and then it took her like six months to divest and while that
Starting point is 00:43:30 was happening she made four hundred thousand dollars off of uh her she just said infrastructure on repeat right every interview she's like infrastructure and also infrastructure and you know why are we talking about an infrastructure i mean mean, and if she divested, I wouldn't be shocked if there's some kind of sneaky way we're on paper. It doesn't look like she owns stock in this, but she's still getting like major kickbacks for the success of this company. We about to have all gravel roads everywhere. We'll get rid of grass. Like the stuff that they do in the Trump administration is just more transparent versions of the things that are already happening. Like normally what you would do is you would have this job and then go and become like the chairman of the board at a gravel company and make money off of that.
Starting point is 00:44:17 But she's doing it at the same time. And it's just an amazing like lack of effort at being like they're just like, I don't know. They don't even care, but they don't don't have to yeah they really don't Trump has been so unethical that he's really opened the floodgates to politicians being able to frolic as who they truly are right which is like I love that beach yes I don't want to think about any of them on a beach picturing Mitch McConnell frolicking through a field in the nude listen Listen, we know Ocean. She's like, my solution to ocean cleanup, make the ocean a gravel road. So she also used her position to set up meetings
Starting point is 00:44:53 between her family's company and the Chinese government. Her family are Chinese shipping magnates. They have a huge shipping company. And this is actually interesting because people uh there was a story at a certain point during the midterms where people were like wait so mitch mcconnell has made the most money in the past like 10 years uh and people were wondering if it was because he had done something uh corrupt and it was actually because he married elaine chow and she is like a huge shipping heir uh and has tons and tons of money but she is still you know trying to use her
Starting point is 00:45:31 position in shady ways to enrich her and her family um so yeah well like if a banker trump can be doing it right like that's where you're setting the example from yeah although her shoe line did go out of business shout out to that because i told y'all those shoes are narrow um it's it's weird that the government has become our new gold rush right like everyone's like we gotta get involved in politics so we can make this money they are probably quietly the most powerful and corrupt people in in washington or among them because you know mcconnell has huge power and now she has incredible power and um the democrats are
Starting point is 00:46:14 kind of hesitant about going after her with investigations because her husband's mitch mcconnell so if you go after her uh investigations, he can be a complete asshole, a complete cockknocker, I believe, known as. I think also the level of scam that's happening here is probably beyond the everyday person's comprehension. Right. You know what I mean? So it takes so much. With Trump, it's like, OK, he's got the pussy grapping and all the basic things that we're like, well, we know that's wrong. But then these things have so many roots and layers to them.
Starting point is 00:46:49 And they're violating things that I think are codified in a way. You know what I mean? Our whole legal system is super codified. That's why we have lawyers. Because it's like you can't read a document on your own. Nothing's in layman's terms, right? Yeah. So it's like I think that a lot of people will never understand truly how unethical this is so it will continue that's why privilege stays with the privileged right because there's
Starting point is 00:47:09 secret codes and and it's it's shrouded is that the word i'm looking for like for so yeah so most people just wouldn't even question it yeah be like oh what and then when you actually put it out in simple like layman's terms i guess is the best way you know to say no this is what's happening they're making money off of this and then increasing their own stock by talking about it publicly in their political role, et cetera, et cetera. And once you start kind of doing that,
Starting point is 00:47:35 people could get a bit more of a scope of it. But most people, like you say, just wouldn't like in the UK, it's etiquette. It's conversations around money and shares and stocks or like how you eat. Like just knowing where you put your money to make more money or how that information is just not given in like state comprehensive schools. Right.
Starting point is 00:47:56 Whereas then you meet people who are like super rich and they're like, oh, no, well, you have to go in this high interest over here and this. And then you separate this and you run this business and it's all this is tax deductible and this is and you're like oh that's why you're so rich yeah they have they in america they go to the harvard business school which is like finishing school for millionaire uh you know people who are going to just move things around and get extremely rich off of it yeah but yeah it, it's like its own little game. Yeah, that's like Eton or like, I suppose, Oxford and Cambridge. But more like kind of Eton is where the royals and our possible new prime minister. It's devastating.
Starting point is 00:48:38 The two possibilities for prime minister, Boris Johnson and Jeremy Hunt. Jeremy Hunt, the latter, sort of single-handedly trying to destroy the nhs and also came out to try and shore up sorry i know this is slightly off topic but it's very annoying came out to shore up um support from like uh like christian groups or religious groups but he came out and said, I would lower the abortion limits to 12 weeks. Wow. He's like, no, it's nothing I can do as prime minister. And I was like, that's interesting
Starting point is 00:49:10 because I would actually raise them to however old Jeremy Hunt is. Right. But it was all done in order to like kind of shore up support on the right because it's nothing I can actually do. But the privileged background of like Boris Johnson, he went to Eton and then he was part of the Bullingdon Club.
Starting point is 00:49:29 So this was always going to happen. He's from a super... Everyone in his family is kind of in politics pretty much. Right. And they're like a super privileged family and that's how that goes. That power goes to power goes to power. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:43 Yeah. I mean, that's why we all have to step up our scams. I don't steal. I misappropriate funds. There you go. Right. All right. We're going to take another quick break.
Starting point is 00:49:55 We'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th 2017 was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price. Listen to Crooks Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app,
Starting point is 00:50:40 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or, can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes!
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Starting point is 00:51:45 or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys.
Starting point is 00:52:14 I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her.
Starting point is 00:52:29 What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion,
Starting point is 00:52:56 and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really hear them voice. I just come here to play basketball every single day,
Starting point is 00:53:16 and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically black. I love her.
Starting point is 00:53:31 What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to The Making of a Rivalry, Caitlin Clark vs. Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And let's talk about the Beatles, guys. There's a new movie coming out called Yesterday.
Starting point is 00:54:06 Lacey, you've seen it. Yes. I've seen a trailer for it, so I've basically seen it. No, you really haven't. So the premise is basically that the power goes out in the whole world and when it comes back on,
Starting point is 00:54:21 nobody remembers who the Beatles were except for this one dude who remembers all their songs and he gets to pretend like nobody remembers who the Beatles were except for this one dude who remembers all their songs. And he gets to pretend like he wrote all the Beatles music. And people are like, wow, those songs are really great. So I just wanted to talk about the Beatles briefly because I really like Beatles music. have even a new respect for them because having like little kids and introducing them to music beetle songs are really easy to get kids into because it's basically like children's music like the songs that they wrote are like extremely simple but also just like are as simple and easy
Starting point is 00:54:59 to like get into and uh memorize as like campfire songs a lot of the time yeah um but the the way they're used culturally in america is like as the pep rally music for aging hippies and like baby boomers to just like they're they used uh you have to admit It's Getting Better as the theme song for HP ads when it was like, yes, technology, we're going to make the world better and we're solving all our problems. And I feel like Beatles music was used pretty much everywhere during the 90s and early 2000s as everything's great and the baby boomers have solved everything. And here's a picture of john lennon uh apple apple computers are are cool don't worry about it um so this is just another example of their music being appropriated by uh aging hippies in this case, Danny Boyle. But it's also another example of, so there's this history of movies, like I've noticed
Starting point is 00:56:11 it in Back to the Future, where people like to create a revisionist history where people of color are stealing rock and roll music from white people instead of white people stealing it from people of color. So in Back to the Future, they have that part where Marty McFly's on stage playing Johnny B. Goode and Chuck Berry's cousin
Starting point is 00:56:36 calls Chuck and says, hey, it's your cousin Marvin. You know Marvin Berry? Just in case you weren't clear on who that was. And then it's like, you know that Marvin Barry, just in case you weren't clear on who that was. And then it was like, you know that new sound you were looking for? Well, listen to this.
Starting point is 00:56:50 So he hasn't even thought, he's just looking for the idea of rock and roll and Marty McFly, a white teenager, gives it to him and he steals it and that's how rock and roll came about. And obviously that's not like, nobody watched that and was like oh that's how rock music happened but it's still like more well known like that that version of things is still
Starting point is 00:57:14 like probably more uh embedded in the american consciousness than the true story of how like rock music came from blues and was stolen from, you know, people of color, like muddy waters and all these people who were studied by white rock musicians and then just made it palatable to other white people by just being white. And so this is another example of this because the dude who is the only one who can remember Beatles music is a person of color also. And like he is stealing the idea for the music. And then Lacey, you were saying at the climax, he like.
Starting point is 00:57:52 Well, I don't want to ruin it. Okay. All right. And let's do a spoiler here because they treat his theft of Beatles music as if it's a crime, like as though it is like a dishonest thing instead of just being like, yeah, I must have hallucinated
Starting point is 00:58:11 the Beatles, like, for my whole life. But that never comes up. He's not like, I must just be creatively brilliant. He instead is like, I feel so bad and guilty. He never questions his own sanity.
Starting point is 00:58:23 Right. At any point. It's not like Back to the Future where they're like, oh, we discovered this new sound. Like the white people automatically assume because they, but this is also just
Starting point is 00:58:30 a white consciousness thing. Like white people love to see something and then assume they made it. Right. It's a thing that they do about everything. And this is why cultural appropriation is annoying.
Starting point is 00:58:41 And I know that there's so many white people out there. I feel for you white people who you're like, oh my God, we can't dance. We can't make make a song we can't go out and hey I don't know get in a march like I get it we can't dance by the way I get it because I think to the everyday white person uh as a white myself um at least on the phone and right now tell it
Starting point is 00:59:01 Lacey tell it through you don't know if i'm white you don't know i might be white guys so as a white i'm telling you i am um i know that it's annoying as an everyday person to have to hear about cultural appropriation the only real issue that people of color have with it is is that white people make the most money from everyone else's culture white people make the most money from everyone else's culture white people take things from other people's culture and they monetize them. And then the people who made it get no money. That's why they're mad.
Starting point is 00:59:28 That's why everyone's mad. Okay. Or credit or anything. Yeah, but fuck credit. Money. A lot of money is made. You know, I heard kids talking about the Fortnite dances. They call the shoot the Fortnite dance.
Starting point is 00:59:41 That's not the Fortnite dance. Negroes made that dance. Okay. And you know what? They don't get payment for you downloading it so that you can use it during Fortnite. Right. So just know that it's not about like people wanting to whine about, you know,
Starting point is 00:59:53 cultural appropriation or even the dislike of white people. We love white people. I consume everything white every day. I get on Facebook. I love the white man's internet. I'm just saying, I'm just saying we want to make a little money off of it so this movie does that same thing where it's like oh this brown person knows that they stole
Starting point is 01:00:10 this music from the beatles right from the beatles and they feel bad because they should yeah so there wasn't even a little flip in the story to kind of say by the way right this was all influenced by like there isn't no no it's that knowing. It's not a spoiler to say that. There's no... There's no wink and nod to the fact that the Beatles stole their music from other, like, influences of other people of color. Which is a little exhausting. I like the Beatles music a lot. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:41 So it was nice to just, like, hear a bunch of it in a movie for sure yeah I just think it's I just hate what's been done with it with the Beatles music I just think it's like such a huge influence in really whack parts of American culture I'm like I don't know I mean the music is very sanitized it's like you know yeah it's happy no one's gonna be offended by it it's sunny yeah there's no controversial beatles song is there i think as they got as they went along they got a bit more kind of edgy all that early kind of is it 50s and 60s kind of yeah she loves you yeah yeah and now we owe 100 million dollars paul mccartney himself will show up here and shake us yeah you're not allowed to use the words she loves and you in that order
Starting point is 01:01:27 consecutively no did he get it back I thought Michael Jackson had all the back catalogs I think he did maybe that was his way of clawing it back he clawed it all back yeah so I don't know it's just it seems like a lame movie.
Starting point is 01:01:45 I also am not a huge fan of the filmmaker Danny Boyle. What's your beef with Boyle? He's Scottish. We've got a Scot in the room. Slumdog millionaire. He's not Scottish. Oh, look at me saying he's Scottish. Because of Trainspotting?
Starting point is 01:01:59 Well, I thought he had Scottish, I know he doesn't have a Scottish accent, but I thought he had Scottish parents. Huh, maybe. Although Boyle is an Irish surname. Can't trust that. Should we look that up? What else did he make? He made Trainspotting.
Starting point is 01:02:13 He made. Sunshine. Was that Sunshine? Sunshine. Sunshine. And he made Slumdog Millionaire in 127 hours. Slumdog Millionaire is my main. I have a bit of love for Danny Boyle in that
Starting point is 01:02:26 when we did the Olympics in 2012 he did a big homage to the NHS. Yeah. So that was one of my like Danny I was like he made a full point of kind of celebrating one of the best things that the UK has ever done. Right. Like
Starting point is 01:02:41 which is have health care. And it's good health care that was actually pretty cool yeah i don't know if i can go back to the uk uh without getting stopped by by the border why you got a lot of your free health care yeah i stole a bunch of free health care from the uk when i was living there this is the truth really this is a true fact i had surgery when i was living in london and i was like oh this is all so free this is great but i wasn't a citizen i was there on a visa and so then like the come the hospital was calling like you owe us thirteen thousand dollars and i was like i ain't giving y'all
Starting point is 01:03:16 money you got like new organs and stuff like organ transplants from the michelle do you know michelle buteau do you guys know michelle buteau comic yeah she has a really brilliant bit about like you want to see my dutch husband cross a road in you know in new york like europeans don't give a fuck because they get free health care they're so risky right just like compared to americans right yeah yeah they don't follow the risk we just we just take like we're like yeah sure i'll just pop into the hospital and just right yeah yeah get this fixed right right yeah i'm Yeah, I'm not going to hate on Danny Boyle. No, you're totally allowed to. I would just say I reserve a little bit of love for him for that.
Starting point is 01:03:50 He will always hold a special place in my affections. I don't have an authentic reason for hating Slumdog Millionaire other than I think it's a terrible movie. And I think people loved it. It's one of the only movies that people like seem to genuinely love the world over that i was just like fully disconnected from the zeitgeist on i was like i don't see where this is coming from at all haven't seen it british british yeah but see people say that well i I am British and that my dad is Scottish. My mom's family are from Wales.
Starting point is 01:04:27 She was born in Radcliffe, Lancashire, England. So he doesn't have... Yeah. Well, sorry about that. Anyway, I got that so wrong. So overall, Lacey, though, two thumbs up, right? On Yesterday, great movie. No, Yesterday is poop.
Starting point is 01:04:43 Did you watch Yesterday, Yesterday? That's the important question. Yo, did I watch Yesterday? No, it No, yesterday is poop. Did you watch Yesterday, Yesterday? That was the important question. Yo, did I watch Yesterday? No, it was the day before yesterday. That would have been nice. Yay, I watched it a couple days ago. It's going to disappoint you. So if you go in with limited expectations,
Starting point is 01:04:57 then maybe you'll be mildly entertained. But it was almost a good movie, but then it wasn't. I bet the soundtrack's pretty good, right? The soundtrack's pretty decent. I don't know if you've heard of any of it. Yeah, like one of the scenes from the trailer is him playing Let It Be for the first time on the piano for his family, and his family doesn't get why it's so great.
Starting point is 01:05:19 But yeah, Let It Be is a good song, so it's always fun to watch someone play that on the piano. I just don't know why we need to fully change the history. It's almost like a body switching movie where he switches bodies with a person. Because the whole lights go out and come back on and suddenly things are different. Who is the guy named John in The Beatles? John Lennon, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:42 Is he still alive? No. No. Who's alive from The Beatles right now? Paul McCartney. I know Paul is. I Lennon, right? Yeah. Is he still alive? No. No. Who's alive from the Beatles right now? Paul McCartney. I know Paul is. Ringo Starr. I know Paul McCartney. Okay, so I know Paul McCartney. I used to wait on Paul McCartney in the Hamptons. He's very nice.
Starting point is 01:05:54 Oh, wow. Yeah. No big deal? NBD. I was his personal waiter. He would ask for me. I was, yeah. Is that true? Yeah, and I never stole anything from him. So Ringo is still alive. Didn't Ringo have some kind of issue where he was beating on his wife or something?
Starting point is 01:06:13 I don't think so. Am I going crazy? Yeah. No? That's John Lennon? Yeah, John Lennon. Okay, okay, okay. We just keep finding out that John Lennon was a shitty person over and over again.
Starting point is 01:06:22 McCartney keeps getting better and better because it was always seen as way cooler to like John. John Lennon. I think it's fair to say for ages. And then actually, but like all of McCartney's other projects and stuff, you know, kind of like band,
Starting point is 01:06:34 band on the run. Yeah. And you like Stella McCartney and Linda McCartney and like, so like McCartney just got cooler and cooler and cooler, which is the reverse of normally what happens as rock stars age, you begin to find out more and more. Yeah. And that's what's happened with John.
Starting point is 01:06:48 Whereas Paul has just kind of got like, he's sort of evergreen. Hey, Paul. Hey, Paul. All right. Let's talk about how we do fame on this side of the Atlantic. The walk of fame. on this side of the Atlantic, the Walk of Fame.
Starting point is 01:07:09 There's renewed interest in whether Donald Trump should have a star on the Walk of Fame in Hollywood. So the Hollywood City Council had a vote and said, no, he should not. We should get rid of it. And the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce has fully just ignored that vote, which I guess is like most city council votes of any type. They just kind of get ignored.
Starting point is 01:07:31 So one question that people had is like why he has one to begin with, since he is only known for being a reality star and also a rich guy in Home Alone 2, which, by the way... Oh, and an episode of Sex and the City. Oh, yeah, which freaked me out when I saw him on there. I was like, he was on this? Samantha had a meeting with him. Yeah, like they flirted across the bar. Hi, Donald.
Starting point is 01:07:59 Donald Trump. I want some of that Trump. So it turns out you basically buy yourself a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. It costs $30,000 to get yourself nominated, and then they'll pretty much vote you in if you pay them enough money. Absolute Vodka has a star. Come on. L'Oreal has a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.
Starting point is 01:08:29 star come on uh l'oreal has a star on the hollywood but like one of the rules that they hold kind of steadfast to is that you can't get a hollywood uh star as a reality star and like so people have been like why would trump have it and they claim it's because of his work as a producer for the miss america pageant uh that that's why he has a Hollywood star. I think that they're not going to take his star away because it's just like the internet. If you're a negative troll, you're still giving people more visibility and more views and more likes by being negative.
Starting point is 01:09:00 So Donald Trump's star getting constantly defaced and people constantly visiting it that is driving traffic to the hot to the walk of fame and that's the whole point of the walk of fame was that an explosion for a truth bomb yeah is that what that was thank you jen but yeah so they're like love it or hate it like people are still coming to the hollywood walk of fame so they're never gonna get rid of it yeah and it has to be like policed now they've had people like you know around it because it gets defaced so often now somebody put up a golden toilet on it someone put it behind prison bars someone built a little wall around it um and somebody smashed it to smithereens with a pickaxe
Starting point is 01:09:41 so yeah the the ultimate point is that it is basically a cheap way to buy a publicity stunt, getting a Hollywood Walk of Fame star. So all we need is that $15 million loan from our parents. Right. Yeah. And we can all get one. That's right. I plan on buying it.
Starting point is 01:09:58 I will have a $30,000 star at some point in my life. The thing that I found... I'll be like, thank you so much i had who gave this to me oh my god i'm like i had nothing to do with it the thing that i found most offensive about this uh one chamber representative said that somebody asked or i guess kanye was saying that kim kardashian should get a star on the hollywood walk of fame since she is like one of the most famous people in the world right now. And the person from the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce
Starting point is 01:10:29 said, she needs to get a real acting job, then come to us. She has had a real acting job. She was in that Tyler Perry movie. She was in that Ray J movie. My girl got credits. I know. I mean she
Starting point is 01:10:45 Her performance was very Convincing Convincing In all of them Yeah In all of them So She can't have it
Starting point is 01:10:53 Because she's a reality star Yes That is Is Paris Hilton got one then Because she was in House of Wax Was it House of Wax Yeah she was
Starting point is 01:11:00 In that little horror film You're right I don't know But I think that they Are going to have to change that because Cardi B started out as a reality TV star. She was on Love and Hip Hop, and now she's a Grammy Award winning artist.
Starting point is 01:11:11 Like, what do you mean? Like, people do reality TV show like it's nothing now. Right. But she's got the Grammys, I guess, and the music. So there you go. Because of that, you can have it. Yeah, she'll be a recording artist. So Kim can't get it for being a lawyer.
Starting point is 01:11:23 Right. So that can't be your only qualification as being a reality star, I think. So you have to have something in the arts. But the whole thing is just complete bullshit is, I guess, the point. It's just like that guy's claim is that because he thinks Kim Kardashian isn't culturally of value, but then is yeah is a value because of what people need to stop hating on kim k and i hate that i'm saying this um i say it's a double-edged sword on one hand yeah stealing from everyone making money off of it cultural appropriation we talked about it but on the other hand like y'all are just mad because she's a beautiful woman who made money
Starting point is 01:11:59 essentially started making money from sex and then made money in a lot of different ways and nobody wants to see it like a quote unquote ho win, but hoes is winning. And I'm proud of her. I'm proud of her. So they need to give her her star because she's so culturally relevant. Come on. She's like world famous.
Starting point is 01:12:14 Like you can't deny it. Yeah. Well, I know that she's doing this. She wants to be like her dad who got OJ off. Not in a way. That was me doing a masturbating sign, but,
Starting point is 01:12:24 but, but, but it was kind of like, oh, who got OJ off, not in a way. That was me doing a masturbating sign. She made a wanking motion. But it was kind of like, oh, so she's been championing, trying to get people out of like, who've been wrongfully imprisoned and stuff. She's got people out of jail. So that's all pretty good.
Starting point is 01:12:34 But then it kind of lands with, and it's all going to be a TV series. And you're like, does everything have to be televised? Because you can do this and you can do some good and you can use your platform and your position. But why do we need to see a TV series about it? Then it just becomes up fodder.
Starting point is 01:12:50 I mean, I think at the end of the day, the black women are getting out of jail. So I don't care if they're on TV and hell, it might help them because ex-cons, like you don't get jobs when you come out of jail and we all know that.
Starting point is 01:13:01 So maybe now the black woman can also be selling some makeup and some lipsticks. You know, so hey. Yeah. Unlike Kylie Jenner. Like just admit that you've had surgery. That's the thing.
Starting point is 01:13:12 You can't be mad at Kim for looking that way. She paid a lot of money for it. And actually what it means is that anyone can. Right. If you can just get some money for surgery, you can all look. Amazing. Yeah. Everyone could.
Starting point is 01:13:24 You know, it's just a choice, isn't it? Right. If you amazing yeah everyone could you know it's just a choice isn't it right yeah if you want to tiff it's been a pleasure having you yeah thanks i can't believe i ended the show defending that's that's how you're gonna go down oh my god contribution i think uh where can people find you uh you can find me on uh instagram at tiff stevenson comic and twitter at TiffStevensonComic, and Twitter, at TiffStevenson. I'm better on Twitter
Starting point is 01:13:48 because it's words. I'm not so good on the pictures, but hey. Your pictures are great. I follow you on Instagram. Thanks, yes. I follow you as well. And also,
Starting point is 01:13:56 I'm doing a show. Am I allowed to plug a show I'm doing? Yeah, of course. I'm doing a show in LA. I'm doing a preview of my new Edinburgh Fringe show, and it's called Mother. And I'm doing it
Starting point is 01:14:04 at the Lyric Hyperion on the 1st of July. So I come along to that. Awesome. The Edinburgh Fringe Festival this year. People need to go see that shit because we have Jamie Loftus is going to be there. You're going to be
Starting point is 01:14:20 there. Lots of really cool shows. Yes, Cameron Esposito was going to be in the same venue as me but I think that's not happening now but I think Emmy Blotnick I think there's a few the few Americans coming over more and more oh Jenna my friend Jenna Friedman who's excellent uh so she's going to be out there as well so I'm looking forward to it actually awesome and is there a tweet you've been enjoying yes uh Amy Miller who, who I follow. Do you guys know Amy Miller? Yeah, she's been on a number of times.
Starting point is 01:14:47 Yeah. I think she's so funny. I really like her. She did a tweet the other day saying, if you want to see a baby poke itself in the eye, just say to it, where's your eye? So it's just silly and she's funny. That is awesome.
Starting point is 01:15:01 Yeah, I really like Amy. I can't wait to try that out. Jackson, go up to the kids immediately. Laci, where can people find you? So you guys know you can find me on the internets at D-I-V-A-L-A-C-I, Deva Laci, on all platforms. And guys, if you want updates on Scam Goddess, we're going to start to record. The first episode we've already recorded, so it's going to come out soon. It's Scam Goddess Pod on Twitter and on Instagram. the first episode we've already recorded so it's gonna come out soon um scam goddess pod on twitter
Starting point is 01:15:25 and on instagram and guys july 10th july 10th on pop tv if you love schitt's creek then you know where to find us um i am the lead in a show called florida girls and it comes out july 10th so guys please please please please watch um yeah and then a tweet that I have been enjoying is you kind of need a visual on this. So go look up Chucky right now. But the new Chucky movie. Hollywood done got to Chucky. This motherfucker done got Botox, an eyebrow lift, a facelift, and fillers. And this comes from Kadi Dawn.
Starting point is 01:16:01 And then I clicked into the comments and it got even funnier. People said, it's Chuckyana. Bust down, Chuckyana. I was chilling with my knife, Kadiana. So thank you so much for that, Kadi Dawn. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien.
Starting point is 01:16:20 A tweet I enjoyed at Mutable Joe tweeted, the idea that the quote ideal beach body just means being thin or buff is so unimaginative. Surely the ideal beach body would have a powerful lobster claw, arm flaps to act as a windbreak, and a sand repellent anus.
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Starting point is 01:16:59 Super producer Anna Hosniak, what song are we going to ride out on today? I'm going to recommend a song by Billie Eilish off her new album. I think I've been quoted on Twitter saying, I'm too old to understand her aesthetic choices. But boy, do I love her music. And her new album is fire. Do you know what the kids say? Okay.
Starting point is 01:17:23 This song is called Bad Guy, and I really like it. It is poppin'. Yes. I love it. To show my age, I thought her name was pronounced Billie Eilish. It might be. I say Eilish because I know I have an Irish friend in Europe who goes by Eilish, and she spells it very similarly, but I think it is Eilish, actually.
Starting point is 01:17:42 My bad. Guys, my culture is showing. And she's Whisper, isn't she? Yeah. She's got a bit of the touch of the ASMR about it. But can I recommend something off the back of that track? Sorry, I know we're finished. But the reason I found that track
Starting point is 01:17:55 is because someone had sent a clip to the Always Sunny account on Instagram and they've taken that scene, you know where Charlie dances at Dennis when they've taken loads of drugs and where Charlie dances at Dennis when they've taken loads of drugs and he's just taking his eyeballs out
Starting point is 01:18:07 and he swallows them they've remixed that to the Billie Eilish song and it's very very funny I haven't seen that well we are going to ride out on that The Daily Zeitgeist
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