The Daily Zeitgeist - At Home Racist, OJ Just OJ'n 6.19.19
Episode Date: June 19, 2019In episode 416, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and Legally Insane podcast co-host Tony Sam to discuss Menghazi with Max Landis and Cuba Gooding Jr., Trump slowly losing his people, OJ Simpson t...hreatening to cut people on Twitter, Kyle Kashuv's Harvard admission being rescinded, and more! FOOTNOTES:1. Eight Women Accuse Hollywood Filmmaker Max Landis of Emotional and Sexual Abuse: ‘We’re Not People to Him’2. Comedian Claudia Oshry Repeats Standup Allegation: Cuba Gooding Jr. Violated Me When I Was 163. Report: Blistered By Scrutiny, Mercers Curtail Spending And Bail On Trump4. If Texas Goes Blue, It Will Change American Politics Permanently5. O.J. Simpson’s Twitter account threatens man with knife emojis6. What leads Harvard to rescind admission? Racism, plagiarism — and killing your mom.7. WATCH: Men I Trust - Say, Can You Hear Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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You know I like my Mountain Dew a bit colder.
All right.
Christy Yamaguchi-Main, courtesy of him.
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I will stand for cold brew.
Fuck off to hot coffee.
Don't let an Asian stereotype Dictate the things you drink
Cause I'm drinking cold brew
And shitting my pants
Okay, I ended that last part.
What is the Asian stereotype about not drinking cold brew?
Because this is actually an old AKA from Christy Yamaguchi-Maine.
So he did the double.
He did the, what is that?
Oh, you mean Xacta?
Yeah.
I guess if you're betting on the ponies.
Where we were talking about how, like, my mom only drinks hot shit.
Hot stuff, that's right.
You know, like your mother-in-law just drinks hot water.
My mom drinks hot water too.
Yeah.
I'm like, no, bro.
I do not like hot drinks unless it's fucking cold outside.
Christy Yamaguchi-Maine is truly an auteur because not only did he have the exact box of both of our AKAs,
but he had a runner where both of them were about beverage temperature.
Oh, shit.
Because I ended mine by saying I like my Mountain Dew a bit colder.
Well, Miles, it's great to have you back.
Thank you so much.
Billy Wayne held it down in your absence.
But we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat
by the hilarious comedian
Tony Sam.
Yo, yo, yo.
Hey.
Welcome.
That's my normal greeting to everyone.
Yo, yo, yo.
That sounds totally like something I would say.
Is that what you used to work at a yo-yo store?
Oh, yeah.
Yo, yo, yo.
Yo, yo.
Welcome to yo-yo.
Let's play.
You want the fireball jewel?
That's right.
We got yo-yos.
We got yim-yams.
Yim-yams.
Ooh, yim-yams.
Is that Jim James?
No, yim-yams is a game you play with dried sweet potatoes.
Oh, okay.
Is it a myth?
I thought your coffee myth, your Asian myth was that lactose.
Do a lot of Asian people have a problem with that
they do i don't know that is not true yeah but you should see in japan they're at the
dominoes in japan they have a fucking pizza right now that has two pounds of mozzarella
that's amazing so either that's just like we're here to fucking die and destroy our toilets or
you know i'm i'm lucky and everyone on my mom's side of the family in Japan is fucking dairy-proof.
We're ready.
And I also have black,
and there's a lot of lactose intolerance
for African-Americans, too.
But I'm still cheesy.
I'm a cheese boy.
Oh, man, I grew up in Chicago,
and pizza's my jam.
I mean, pizza's everybody's jam.
Wait, you like what?
You like pizza?
Get the fuck out of here.
Oh, I'm an original.
But the holder I've gotten, I'm lactose intolerant.
Oh, really?
And it is destroying me.
That's weird.
Lactaid, man.
Got to get that lactaid.
Do they work?
Little chocolate cubes.
Yeah, they're actually really effective.
Are you lactose intolerant?
No.
I just collect them.
But they taste pretty good.
And I've had them before having ice cream just to see if it did anything to me.
And it didn't.
It didn't change anything.
Do you get the rumble tums?
The rumbly tumbies?
I don't.
Bubble guts?
I do, actually, if I eat a bowl of cereal now for some reason.
Uh-oh.
Really?
Yeah.
I get gassy, actually.
Ah.
Yeah.
Great.
So, yeah.
This is what we're talking about today.
No.
I put it there.
Tony, one of your bits I've been told as a stand-up is you become the fun police.
Is that true?
Yeah.
It's a character piece I do.
I've been doing it for a while, but basically I am an officer of the LAPD.
The department is the fun division.
Oh, wow.
And I pull over an audience because they're not having enough fun.
Oh, okay.
And then I proceed to just shit on everybody.
It's really an opportunity just to bust people's balls.
Nice.
It's really fun.
And are you from Tarpon Springs, Florida?
You have a Tarpon Springs, Florida t-shirt?
I did live in South Florida.
This is probably Northwest Florida, right?
Okay.
Up by the panhandle.
But no, I lived down in South Florida because I went to school for marine biology.
Look at that.
Oh, wow.
Not bad.
Yeah.
Do you incorporate that in your bits?
You know, really not too much funny marine biology things to talk about.
Yeah.
I also have a degree in molecular biology, which, again, I've searched for the comedy in that subject.
Right, right, right.
And I can't find it.
Maybe I haven't looked hard enough.
Yeah.
Probably not. You've probably just I can't find it. Maybe I haven't looked hard enough. Probably not.
You've probably just not thought enough about it.
Do you remember those Fun Police commercials that Nike had?
When it was like, again, Damon Stoudemire,
have to raise the specter of Damon Stoudemire again,
like Jason Kidd, Gary Payton, like Kevin Garnett,
where they would go to basketball games,
and there would be rich guys sitting courtside,
and young kids in the nosebleeds,
and they'd be like, we're the fun police.
Come with us.
And they would put the kids in the front row.
And they're like, these are the real fans.
Or just do other shit like that.
You don't remember?
No, that's cool.
No, I don't remember that at all.
They wore yellow coats.
All right, I have every Nike basketball commercial stuck in my fucking skull.
I do remember seeing that because I wanted to make sure that no one had taken my idea or done it.
Because mine's kind of weird the way I do it.
Right.
And it was, unfortunately, it was nothing.
Or fortunately for me, it was nothing like those spots.
Oh, yeah.
But you know.
You don't remember these images
of them all wearing these yellow jackets?
I don't.
They don't look as much as fun police as they do like-
Carmen Sandiego?
Yeah.
Like weird Dick Tracy's.
P.I.s.
Private dicks.
Private dicks.
Tony, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment.
First, we're going to tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking about today,
such as that Max Landis, the writer of such films as Chronicle and Bright.
We've talked about the fact that he's a sex creme before, or at least very problematic,
and we're getting a little bit more detail continued.
More people just coming out and explaining.
Perfect.
More people just coming out and putting a little texture on that.
We're also going to talk about Cuba Gooding Jr.
There's a little more texture on his weird club and bar gropiness.
We're going to talk about Trump,
whether his allies are starting to retreat.
We're going to talk about how ICE has stopped updating
their list of people who died in ICE custody.
We're going to talk about Elaine Chao,
the new Scott Pruitt,
and O.J. Simpson continues his tear on Twitter.
We're going to check in with him.
And, of course, we have to talk about Kyle Kashuv,
or however the fuck you pronounce that conservative kid's name,
who got disinvited to Harvard, got his acceptance withdrawn.
Yeah.
Poor, poor guy. We're going to talk about just why we feel really terrible for him.
But first, Tony, we like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history
that's revealing about who you are?
Well, from what I understood, I thought you wanted the last thing that I Googled.
Which is revealing.
Well, one kind of led into the next.
So I've always wanted to go to Japan.
Mm-hmm. And I want to stay at one of these.
It's a traditional Japanese inn.
Ryokan?
Ryokan?
Is that what it's called?
You say it better.
It's R-Y-O-K-A-N.
How did you say it?
Western people say Ryokan, but it's Ryokan in Japanese.
Traditional inn. Fantastic. How did you say it? Western people say ryokan, but it's ryokan in Japanese. So traditional.
Yeah, they're, I mean, fantastic.
If you really want to get like the flavor of Japanese hospitality and the omotenashi mentality, which is like predicting every need of the guest, that is where you would experience it.
I want to wear the robe.
Oh, yeah, the yukata?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's really what I wanted to do.
Be careful which side you put over because if you put the wrong side over, if you put, I think, the right over the left or the leftukata? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Be careful which side you put over because
if you put the wrong side over, if you put
I think the right over the left or the left over the right, I have to look.
It's for, it means that's typically
how you dress a dead person.
So you have to be sure to have the
left over the right.
I think they got a weekend at Bernie's
2 situation. Yeah, they'll be like, this guy's
walking and he's got headphones on and he's listening to
Calypso music.
I didn't know that, I guess, ping pong, table tennis is very popular at these as well.
So everyone's playing in these robes.
Well, it all depends.
Some are very much have all kinds of recreational activities.
Some are more focused on maybe having a hot spring or the food.
So it's like a spa type thing, but with like extreme service.
Yeah.
Well, typically like it was made for like in feudal Japan when like shoguns or whatever go to see the emperor.
And it would be like a journey you would take.
And it was just like a place you would stop.
And, you know, that's how sort of that tradition began.
And then it became for just travelers.
But, yeah, it's. That's how day sp that tradition began. And then it became for just travelers. But yeah, it's...
That's how day spas began too.
Yeah, for the shogun.
Shogun was going to see that, bro.
But yeah, this is, I mean, it's,
I think if you're going to Tokyo,
if you go to like Hakone,
which is like near Mount Fuji,
there's a lot of great hot springs there.
So the ryokan, they are typically...
They're built all along the...
They're all like built on hot springs so
you could have you know just get the stone bath and just have your skin all your dead skin fall
off all right that's what i wanted to do that is so dope that the that is the uh origin story of
like this japanese institution and uh the truth of america's like the origins of America's day spas is that it was like Charles Kellogg or whatever created a place to try and cure people of masturbation.
Like shock them out of masturbating or whatever.
Is that true?
Yeah, yeah. Like, go to the health spa for the weekend and, you know, he would do things to try and shock the sex out of your body with, like, cold water.
I mean, I just try to do that to get in the mood.
Yeah, yeah.
It's pretty hot.
This led into me, like, it was like a stream of consciousness, these ryokan.
So from there I went into godzilla size chart
okay oh wow i wanted to know how who is the biggest godzilla over the period of the films i guess this
is all tracks you think japan it was that or like weird ass hentai porn right for someone like
totally and you knew we were gonna be like j about it. Be like, Japan, what else? Tentacles, weird game show.
Godzilla.
All right.
Well, I was looking.
You know, not the compact disc player or Nintendo or the myriad of other things.
The snuggle zipper.
My friend had went and they went to a snuggle room in Tokyo.
Oh.
Like, you just, or cuddle.
I think it's called a cuddle room.
Yeah, we have those here.
Cuddle parties.
Is it the same sort of thing?
Just getting contact hours? You just lay with someone in a cuddle room. Yeah, we have those here, cuddle parties. Is it the same sort of thing, just getting contact hours?
You just lay with someone in a bed.
Yeah, yeah.
People are increasingly alone and isolated at times.
Yeah, and you need physical touch.
Yeah.
It's a human need that we...
That's why we high-five a lot.
Yeah, constantly.
No, that's...
The two of you specifically.
Yes, yes Yes We do the
It's like NBA teams
At the free throw line
Every time
Whether the joke hits or not
We
You'll see
I'll walk around the table
And do it
What is something you think
Is underrated
Wait hold on
I like the third one
He wrote in here
Size
So again
The string of Japanese
Things you think of Japan.
This one was unrelated.
Oh, really?
Because then I thought you're thinking, well, fucking earthquakes is another huge thing.
Every Godzilla stuff.
Because you put seismic retrofit.
Right?
No, like, while I was doing this, I've had people been coming to the house to check out our foundation.
And each person that comes wants to sell us on this making the
foundation earthquake ready and by looking at this though it makes it look as though i was
thinking about going to japan i got thinking about godzilla's how they cost the footsteps
like i mean is it Godzilla-proof?
Yeah.
Is Ryokan Godzilla-proof?
This one's only Mothra-rated, so I don't know.
Like, wow, he went down this wormhole.
What is something you think is underrated?
Well, I get a lot of shit because I've always i've had a vespa since i've lived in los angeles okay and no one respects it
or me on it respect yeah i mean it is fuel efficient yeah uh it. It's faster to get to places.
Then what?
Walking?
Yeah, no, driving.
I can zip through the middle.
Oh, okay.
Lane splitting.
Lane splitting.
Do you go on the highway?
The lane splitter in the Vespa.
Do you go on the highway on the Vespa?
No.
Can you?
I've taken it on the two.
Like legally?
It's rated for highway travel? Yeah, it it on the two. Like legally it's rated for highway travel?
It's like the 65.
Okay.
But I am terrified.
Yeah.
I'm terrified.
I would be terrified.
I would either be like, this person is so brave, very experienced, or high as fuck.
You could take it on the 10.
Look, we're just dropping LA highway.
Like the Californians, man.
Right.
Take the 10.
So there's a strip of highway, the 10. It's bumper to bumper no the Californians, man. Right. Take the 10. So there's a strip, a highway, the 10.
It's bumper to bumper no matter what time of day.
Right.
I could drive it on there and I'd feel okay.
Oh, right, because you're just going right through the lane.
Because nobody's moving.
So I'd be the only one moving.
But it only has disc brakes in the front and the back are drum,
which if you're going really fast and you need to stop, you're not stopping.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Or you're doing like an endo.
Right.
If you're going really fast, motorcycles, they have disc brakes on both the front and the back.
Right, right, right.
But if you have drum in the back, it can't stop as fast.
So it is, not only is it cool, it's dangerous.
Dangerous.
Yeah.
What's your helmet look like?
Does it match your Vespa?
Oh, it's got the Roman thing on top of it, like I'm a gladiator.
Roman Legion.
The plume.
No, I get so much shit for driving this thing.
It's as dangerous as a motorcycle, but frowned upon by anyone.
You should just wear a show A racing helmet uh mine has a built-in
sun visor oh fuck yeah okay god i look so cool i've had people like give me the thumbs up but
i feel like it was mocking are they going like this yeah man hey cool dude and then it slowly
goes like this turn the middle finger uh and i've had people try to run me off the road.
People almost T-bone me.
When you bought the Vespa, what was your
rationale? Were you like, well, I did go
to Tuscany once, and
I really like this idea, or were you sort of
like, this makes sense. I'm a quarter Italian.
So, what's your
heritage? Excuse me, what's your argument
again? We say Vespa, but it really
is the wasp.
I mean, in Italiano.
No, I'm from Chicago, and you really can't ride a scooter around there much of the year
because of winter and the seasons.
But I always wanted one.
I was like, man, I can drive anywhere.
And I had moved here with someone, and I had a car, but we had to share the vehicle. I was like, well, I can drive anywhere. And I had moved here with someone, and I had a car, but we had to share the vehicle.
I was like, well, I need to go places.
So I was like, this is an affordable option and one that I want.
You're holding me back.
How much does a Vespa like?
They're, I mean, new.
They're like for the 150cc is like $5,000.
Oh, really?
But I bought this last one I had used for $3,000,
which is still a lot of money for a thing that makes everyone hate you.
Another good thing about the Vespa that is illustrated
by what was going to be one of my tweets that I liked today
is from at extra napkins.
He said, I don't mean this in a rude way,
but every motorcycle should come with a built-in decibel meter
where if the engine goes over a certain volume, the bike explodes, killing the rider.
And I agree with that.
Motorcycles are too loud.
Vespas are not.
That's why you need the electric.
Yeah, I feel like when I hear a loud motorcycle and I look out the window, I'm just going to see a guy with his dick out.
Right.
Just like, look at me.
That stroke length is way too big for someone that I like.
For our listeners, it was like two feet.
It looked like you were pumping a 12 gauge or something.
That's how it sounds.
That's what they should have.
Right.
But really, they're cocking a BB gun.
Right.
What is something you think is overrated?
Whale?
Ronald Reagan?
Whale?
Let me tell you this.
I think homelessness.
I asked my girlfriend this this morning.
I was like, what do you think I think is overrated?
And she's like, everything.
You hate everything.
There you go.
I was like, that's fair.
That's fair enough.
Great.
She's like, you hate yoga.
You hate going out.
You hate fun.
I was like, okay, well, that's a little unfair. Like, you hate yoga. You hate going out. You hate fun. Now.
I was like, okay, well, that's a little unfair.
But, like, you know.
So your girlfriend is your overrated?
Like, you're overrated.
You're all overrated.
This whole thing is overrated.
I don't know.
I guess, like, spending a lot of money on dinner, like, fancy restaurants.
Like, I have never, ever felt that I paid for. I guess like spending a lot of money on dinner, like fancy restaurants.
Like I have never, ever felt that I paid for what I got.
You know what I mean?
Right.
Like I'll be like, yeah, this was good.
I don't know if it was $500 good.
Whoa.
Like because, you know, we'll occasionally we'll go all out because it's like, you know, some special event or whatever.
So we go to, you know, I don't know.
Musso and Frank's is ridiculous.
Right.
Three people cost almost $400 to eat there.
And I was like, I would have rather made a steak at home.
Yeah.
Than have spent that money.
Yeah, man.
Imagine $300 worth of Taco Bell. That's a fucking party. party right what's your taco bell combo go to oh well well i love the maxi melt but the maxi melt has been discontinued so i had an existential
dilemma luckily the listeners of the show put me on the fact that i could get a cheesy beef roll-up
add pico and i have basically what is the Mexi-Melt.
So I typically have a combination of Mexi-Melts and soft Supreme tacos.
Oh, those are solid. Yeah.
I get the Mexican pizza.
Too solid.
Oh, yeah.
Woo!
Combo.
What's your drink?
Look, I know it's poison, but Diet Coke is what I cook.
Oh, Diet Pepsi.
Yeah.
Caught you there.
Do you really go to Taco Bell?
Wait.
Look away! Look away!
Look away!
Grab him.
He's a phony.
So it seems like you're someone who knows their way around the kitchen just based on
your Taco Bell order.
No, based on the fact that you were saying that you could make it yourself.
Yeah, you know, I worked on a food show for a while.
Oh, interesting.
Which one? Four Seas. It's called Food Factor Fiction. It stars show for a while. Oh, interesting. Which one?
Four Seas.
It's called Food Factor Fiction.
It stars Michael McKean.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
My comedy hero.
So when I got offered that job, I was like, are you fucking kidding me?
Of course.
I love him.
Everyone probably knows him now from Better Call Saul, but I grew up on Laverne and Shirley,
and the movie Clue is one of my favorite movies of all time.
But I learned a lot about food on there,
and then it made me want to cook more.
And so I will make pizza from scratch, like Neapolitan pizza.
Oh, wow.
I actually went to Naples to learn how to do it because I was so obsessed.
And you fell in love with the Vespa.
And Vespa, that's where I got a Vespa.
I had it shipped back.
We're best friends.
Yeah, but did you want me to talk about food?
Yeah, let's do some food myths.
So I know a few really weird ones, I guess.
Like everyone thinks chocolate is an aphrodisiac.
If I can say it, I can't even say it.
But it's not.
Because it's an aphrodisiac.
It's a half-safety.
It's a half-safety.
Little known fact.
Chocolate is a side of a safe.
So side of safe.
It doesn't do anything other than just make you like,
you could eat anything and feel just as good if you really liked it right and it doesn't put you in the mood is it more that the myth are there
aphrodisiacs or is that even a greater myth like like oysters is supposed to right give you boners
yeah it always like lines that's what i've been saying every time i go to the seafood restaurant
right these damn oysters i'll take the order of boner shells yeah i have some
boner shells please but i feel like with chocolate it lines up with like when you are ending a fancy
dinner which is a time that you're going to be like more likely to be in a romantic setting
like chocolate or with oysters it's like probably extremely horny seafaring men
coming into port and just being like,
God damn it, why am I so horny?
Chucking bags of oysters on motorcycles with their boners.
Yeah.
On motorcycles with their boners.
Yeah, no, it was actually like a myth that the chocolate companies
seized on and then promoted it, and we all fell for it.
So that one's out the window.
Yeah.
So don't do it.
Right.
If chocolate really was an aphrodisiac, guys would just have sacks full of them.
Right.
Walking around waving them in women's faces or vice versa.
Or me trying to explain that this has never happened before.
So this is new.
Another one is that turkey makes you sleepy. Right. This is new. Another one is
that turkey makes you sleepy.
Right. So that's the tryptophan thing.
Right. It turns out most
foods have tryptophan.
Cheese has more tryptophan than turkey.
Does it really? Which ones?
Like cheddar especially.
Oh right. So the idea is just like
you eat so much of things.
You're tired because of the amount of food you're eating and you're running around, you're also probably drinking wine to forget your family exists.
Yeah.
Right.
And yet they're still there.
They won't go away.
And carrots keep your eyeballs healthy.
I had heard that one, I think.
But I feel like I heard that one as a myth, like,
that people used to believe. I'd never...
Did you think that was true, Mark? Yeah.
Oh, because I hated carrots as a kid.
And they're like, oh, your eyesight's gonna
be bad. Right. And I'm like,
all y'all wear glasses, so I'm fucked
either. Like, I'm looking at my genealogy
here, and it looks like this is a foregone
conclusion. I was munching carrots
my whole life, and my eyes are terrible. Oh, really? What's your eyesight? Uh, it looks like this is a foregone conclusion. I was munching carrots my whole life and my eyes are
terrible. Oh really? What's your eyesight?
It's like
do we want to talk diopters?
Sure. Are we talking diopters here? Yeah, dioptic.
I think it's minus four.
Oh, wow. Minus
four and a half.
They let you on a
Vespa? Yeah, I know.
I know, I can't. I made the mistake of going to the DMV with my glasses.
My dad had always told me, don't wear your glasses.
They'll know.
I was like, what do you mean?
You want me to take the test when I can't see?
Right.
He's like, boy, you're a terrible driver.
No, I'm really.
But he said if I didn't tell him.
So now on my license, it says I always need corrective lenses.
If I ever was caught, not that I would because I can't see a thing.
Oh, like not wearing them.
I always have to wear them.
Gotcha.
And then you also had that the French hate Americans, that that is a myth.
I thought, I mean, I went to Paris not too long ago expecting to be treated like absolute garbage.
Yeah.
But they were pretty nice.
I mean, really helpful.
Did you try to speak French, though?
Un petit peu.
That's when they'll be like, look, I speak English, man.
Right.
Right, but they appreciate that you tried.
Yeah, the attempt, for sure.
Even if it's horse shit.
Right.
If you tried, then they're like, oh, come over here.
Right.
I felt like the experience
of being an American in Europe
was way worse
when Bush was president,
surprisingly.
Like, being bitten,
like, during the, like,
just two years
into the Iraq war,
going into Europe,
a lot of people were like,
are you American?
Right.
And then being, like,
having, like,
a 22-year-old me
explain what the foreign policy
is of the country.
Here are your freedom flags.
Yeah, and then I was like, no, I'm from Japan.
And like your accent.
I'm like, I studied a lot of TV.
Now let me pass, sir.
I know.
I thought about wondering if we should put Canadian flags on our luggage because I heard
that people do that.
Or just have like a cover for your passport that makes it look like Canada.
Yeah. because I heard that people do that. Or just have a cover for your passport that makes it look like Canada. But I've found that everywhere we've gone
in these last two years,
people feel for you because of who's president.
Like, hey, it's okay.
You're all right, huh?
Must be terrible to look this fucking dumb.
Yeah.
I know.
Like, I didn't.
It wasn't me.
It is. And I have a free cheese. Yeah. be terrible to look this fucking dumb yeah i know like i didn't i didn't it wasn't me it is
it um the free cheese yeah i did i think this probably comes from certain types of americans
who go over there and are oh yeah loud and you know or that just idea that like there was that
whole thing where europeans were like so surprised that that Americans sound like fucking nothing like TV.
Right.
Because that's like when people who don't have standard American accents go like maybe
like a Midwestern accent.
I don't even know what the fuck they were saying.
Right.
Nothing like TV.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's a lot of people.
Yeah.
That still think it's like, hey, I got a gun.
I'm going to shoot you up with my gun.
Whoa, whoa.
That's how we all talk.
Yeah.
Partner. Partner.
Hey, partner.
I lived actually in Grand Cayman for a year when I was doing marine biology stuff, and
the worst people that came off the cruise ships were Americans.
Yeah.
They just are so loud, so disrespectful.
And that's why I think if anyone had a right to hate us,
it would be because of those people.
But you get the lowest common denominator
because they can afford these cheap cruise tickets
and then they just act like absolute trash.
Right, that it's like, oh, it's a theme park.
We're all just disgraced this whole place.
But generally, if you're not an asshole,
people will be fine with you no matter what.
Just treat people with respect. Don't be an asshole. people will be fine with you. Yeah. No matter what. Just treat people with respect.
Don't be an asshole.
Yeah.
Treat them with respect.
Right.
That's hard.
I know.
So hard.
Unless you're from a different country and in America.
In which case, they will treat you like shit.
All right.
We're going to take a quick break.
We'll be right back.
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So real quick update on Mengazi.
Mengazi.
Max Landis, we talked when Bright came out about the fact that Anna Akana and a couple other women had come out and said, you know, he's an abusive piece of shit who, yes, serially abuses women uh and now there is a couple stories uh where eight different women have come
out and basically said you know that this is a pattern of behavior and you you literally never
hear a thing about this person that isn't that he's a toxic nightmare human but i'd always wondered
how he managed to like keep getting people and women to spend time
around him uh and it turns out he's like that was one of the things about this article is that like
he cultivates this like really interesting group of like cool people and like throws these like
hundred person nerf battles and spends $50,000 on parties.
And like,
I don't know,
he's,
he's very like,
that's what he spends his time and energy on is like creatively like making
things fun so that he can then cultivate these environments where people will
come around him and he can be a sexual predator.
So he has like a cult that operates off FOMO.
Yes.
And that uses that to bait people in.
I think it's called like the Color Society.
He has a name for it.
So it is like literally just a soft cult.
Right.
And then by him being at the Godhead figure of it,
then he'll naturally be the person people gravitate towards
within that group.
And now he's a predator.
Well, like most sociopaths, he has two sides of him,
and he shows the side that everyone likes to everybody else.
And then he's a monster when the door is closed.
And then Cuba Gooding Jr., we spoke last week about a weird closed circuit video of him at a club groping a woman uh that uh you know he was being
accused of assault by that woman and now a stand-up comedian has come out and pointed out that like
for years now she's been talking about the fact that when she was 16 years old cuba gooding jr put his finger
up her butt at a club yeah when she was claudia oshry is the comedian claudia and she i think on
her podcast said she said quote at the end of the day i don't know if i've ever considered myself to
be a victim of sexual assault because i'm not there are people who are real victims and i would
never compare myself to them and then she said yeah i was 16 i was at this club and he quote put his finger up my butt she said that she didn't
even know what the right word is for how she felt at the time and she didn't go to police because
she was there illegally underage and didn't know what happened so it just sort of kept her from
coming back but she's used this in her stand-up a lot and she said more often than not people have
come up to her and also said,
that also happened to me with Cuba Gooding Jr. at a club.
She's a finger in their butt?
Or yeah, or a friend I know.
How old was he at this?
She's 24, so this was eight years ago.
So he was entirely too old to be-
Putting fingers on butts and or testing strangers. Yeah. I'd say after the age of like four, that's probably a thing that you should know better than to do, right?
Go see people?
Yeah.
Putting your finger up someone's butt.
Yeah, I don't.
Maybe even two.
Just in general, I don't really gravitate towards that part of the body just from an older germ perspective.
Yeah.
But, yeah.
That's why I don't wipe my butt.
Right.
You don't wipe it on purpose.
It's like a safety.
What, are you going to put your hand near there?
Right.
You're sick.
You're sick.
You guys are fucking sick.
That's right.
What a weird, specific freak to have, I guess.
Yeah, yeah.
Very, very specific
move.
Yeah, or it shows
perhaps a pattern of
groping women and violating
their personal space. Yes.
In public places.
It's just been people that
have said he's put his finger up their butt.
That's what she said in
this podcast. She's the only
person, as far as I know, who's actually come out to say that this has happened.
Last week, there was a video of him groping a woman's breast and putting his hand on her thigh at a club.
But he seems to like to get a little sloppy and then do horrible things.
He gets drunk. You know, it seems like there's a common thread with all people
who do this kind of stuff
is that
it's this power thing,
right?
They don't think
that anyone's going to
challenge them
or take them down.
Yeah, right.
Especially when you get
enough momentum going
and you've been gaslit
by people around you
into thinking you're invincible
that you're just like,
right,
what's consequence?
Right.
It's like Kevin Spacey and all that stuff well speaking of all of that the president donald
trump is about to get his re-election campaign officially started even though his campaign
really never stopped since he got into the white house yeah um but he's gonna kick it
off with uh something in florida maybe that's already happened by the time you're listening
to this oh yeah whole tailgate party yeah and people camping out to get in like 40 hours before
yeah man trump got to yeah you got to trump fest 2019 but anyways uh as as we're heading into
this period uh it seems like some of his homies are not going to be riding with him this time.
Yeah, specifically the Mercers.
Yeah, they were a big part.
Like Robert and Diana, they wrote like $15.5 million checks to different Trump platforms in the last cycle.
And then gave a million to his inaugural.
And then remember at the time they were funding Breitbart.
And then that's when,
I think that was the first piece that fell.
They,
they pulled out a Breitbart because they were like,
what the fuck are you guys doing?
Well,
I think they're like,
Whoa,
come on.
We're evil racists.
That's why.
And then,
so now they are apparently like kind of jumping ship.
It seems like,
cause right now they've only donated around $400,000
to the Great America PAC.
That was in 2018 and only spent almost $3 million last year.
So that's like, they spent $49 in 2016.
Jesus.
So I think there are environmental factors
that they don't want to align themselves with Trump.
They also claim, the sources who are talking about
their reluctance
to fund Trump's campaign say that, well, you know,
the thing is they were actually never really embracing Trump.
They just wanted to vote against Hillary,
which is what Trump voters will say when you're being like,
oh, so you have no empathy, sympathy, you're racist and xenophobic.
They're like, well, no, I did it because I just didn't want Hillary.
Right.
So I don't know.
I've heard of flushing money down the toilet, but.
Yeah.
Right.
Well, I mean, shit, they got that huge tax break.
I'm sure they love that.
That probably came back threefold.
Yeah.
For that Trump tax cut.
Yeah.
Or the schism.
So I think that's one indicator.
I think there's also, we've seen over and over all the internal polling and polling
that's available publicly shows that his reelection is fucking hard.
And he is in total denial about this as well.
Like, when it came to those polls, he said, you tell people those polls are fake and then fired those pollsters.
And then recently Fox put out a poll that showed that, like, Joe Biden was, like, crushing him in certain parts of the country by, like, 10 points.
And he tweets, Fox News polls are always bad for me.
Well, Fox News polls, it's the one legitimate journalistic aspect of their entire operation.
Fox News actually has a good polling operation.
Right.
But it was just funny because when the polls were right for him in other times, he was like, oh, I see him.
Have you just seen this Fox News poll?
Yeah.
But this time, well, now it's always bad for me.
He says they were against Crooked Hillary also.
So what?
So now you have something in common with her?
Anyway, he goes on, something weird going on at Fox.
Our polls show us leading in all 17 swing states.
For the record, I didn't spend 30 hours with ABC News, but rather a tiny fraction of that,
more fake news.
For the record, I didn't spend 30 hours with ABC News, but rather a tiny fraction of that, more fake news.
So, yeah, contrary to what he says, the swing states, there are ones where he is kind of doing the same,
and there are other ones that would show that you would be sweating a little bit if you need these states. There was this poll, I think, that came out yesterday that was another one that was by Fox that said 50% of the country wants him impeached.
Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah, the impeachment numbers have been also rising.
Going in the wrong direction for him.
And I'm not saying that it's getting to him,
but there is that amazing outtake, speaking of the ABC interview,
where he's like, people want to see my financial reports.
They're going to see them want to see my financial reports they're gonna see
him they're amazing financial reports and then he like you can tell he kind of gets distracted
and he's like sorry i gotta take that again he was coughing if you're gonna cough get out of here
get out of the room yeah and the camera pans around and it's his chief of staff mcmulvaney
uh and you could just tell he's just like...
Someone get this bozo a lozenge.
Right, right.
He's so mad.
Or just projected how bad it is just onto Mick Mulvaney's coughing.
Like, do you believe this fucking idiot?
I bet if he wasn't coughing, what I said would sound believable.
Loser's cough, basically, in his mind.
Loser's cough.
Yeah, and then there's also some indication that Texas is moving much closer or much faster in the blue direction than the red direction.
A lot of people said around 2028, maybe 2024, Texas will become competitive for Democrats.
I think Beto was a big part of that.
Yeah, it was.
It definitely showed that there is something,
there's a blue surge happening in Texas somewhere.
But now a lot of people are saying,
it could be 2020.
Now that's very significant because when you think about how Texas
has 38 electoral college votes,
that's usually just a given for the GOP
when they're looking at their electoral map.
If you fucking use a map calculator
and you try and find a way for Republicans
to win without Texas, it's nearly impossible.
Yeah.
They need that state.
Was the last Democrat to take Texas LBJ?
Probably.
Yeah, possibly.
It has to have been.
But yeah, I was reading some coverage
of Beto's campaign, and they were talking
about how he
Jimmy Carter
took Texas
that they
used people from the Bernie
2016 campaign
and like a lot of the organizing from the
Democratic Socialists
was how Beto got a lot of
that momentum
he was just kind of another candidate
because I was always wondering where did this dude come from a lot of that momentum is he was just kind of another candidate. Right.
Because I was always wondering, like, where did this dude come from?
And I've heard people argue that it's kind of that Bernie Democratic Socialist network that got him going.
And if you ran a Bernie or somebody who was a little bit more populist, you might see
similar results in Texas where the Democrats actually pick up some momentum.
But who knows?
Well, the thing is, the one thing they point to about it being competitive is that it says half of registered voters in Texas would vote to reelect Donald Trump, but half of them would not.
So that's sort of the definition of competitive.
It's not like 60-40 or something like that.
It's like half and half.
So that's an indicator that something is definitely, there's some momentum gaining there.
Sorry, so it's half the people who did vote for him wouldn't vote for him?
No, they're just saying half of voters that they polled said, half said, I would definitely
vote to reelect Donald Trump.
Then there's another significant one that said, I would definitely vote to reelect Donald Trump. Then there's another significant said, I would definitely vote against Donald Trump,
against his reelection. Yeah. I wonder how much of that is just that you're only showing them
Trump who they don't want to vote for. But once you show them a Democrat, they're going to be
like, well, shit, you can't vote for a Democrat now. He had his own internal polling
in March, and it showed him
only two points ahead in Texas, in a
hypothetical against Joe Biden.
Only two points. I wonder what he'd look like
against... And then in late May, early
June, Quinnipiac polls
showed Biden leading Trump
48 to 44%.
In Texas? In Texas. Jesus.
Yeah, every poll I've seen had almost every Democrat beating him except at the time I think it was Elizabeth Warren would have lost by 1 percent.
Yeah, and now she's like in the top three now.
Right.
Biden and Bernie.
The interesting thing about people who vote for Trump to me is that despite everything they know and they see, they don't care.
And I think it's usually because people are focused on one issue, like abortion.
If someone is so passionate about abortion because he said he's anti-abortion, they're
going to forget everything else.
Yeah, forget the economy, forget your social mobility.
My sister lives in North Carolina, and she lives by a military base, and he's all about the military.
And so no matter what he does, they will vote for him just because people vote with that one issue, and it's not the right way to vote.
And so then you get someone like this who is terrible.
We get single-issue voters on both sides for sure.
But, yeah, I think there are so many things too.
When you think of just your quality of life,
a lot of people just get so caught up on these ideological wins that they're like,
yeah, oh, right.
But can I actually afford health care?
Or am I concerned about my own social mobility?
That's right.
Oh, because I'm just so myopically focused on one thing.
Yeah, well, it's a long time, so none of these polls are that indicative,
but it does show you where people are at right now.
Yeah, and you can at least see some motion.
You can see that things are changing.
If one month it says one thing,
and then the next month it's moving in the other direction.
They also weren't accurate, I guess, the last election.
Right.
Yeah, exactly, and that's why it's like I don't go to sleep holding these numbers.
But it's interesting to even consider that there are things like, you know, Texas trending in a different direction.
And, like, that could eventually – I mean, I don't know what the Republicans do if Texas does become a blue state.
Right.
Are you going to throw me out?
Sorry.
Hold on.
Get out of here.
We're going to have to take that again
the whole thing start all over again uh from the top jack hello the internet
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People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.
Every great player needs a foil.
I ain't really near them.
Why is that?
I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on.
From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.
Angel Reese is a joy to watch.
She is unapologetically
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What exactly ignited this fire?
Why has it been so good for the game?
And can the fanfare surrounding these two
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because the talent is getting better.
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I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because
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Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious.
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and we're back and uh you know there there are more important things in the news but I do need to bring up the fact
that OJ Simpson
out here on Twitter and
there's also a parody Twitter
account OJ
Simpson killer
and it's got a
photoshopped picture of him holding a butcher knife
and
oh at killer OJ Simpson
yeah at killer OJ Simpson
if I did it right and oj uh
reached out to them and said uh you know please take this down my lawyer's gonna sue the shit out
of you and then right and then uh the person was like no fuck you and it slowly escalated to oj threatening the person's safety and then once a
person posted a video of their first exchange oj tweeted uh dm'd them seeing that video you posted
about me you think i'm playing tired of your bullshit i will find your ass and cut you don't
believe me just watch and see bitch then he
sends 16 knife emojis uh followed by the words you next uh and then you'd almost be worried for
the guy but then oj tweets you just wait i'm gonna blast your ass all over twitter which doesn't
mean anything and puts the entire exchange in sort of a old man shaking his fist in a blast
your ass at a cloud all over twitter uh but it it also makes me believe that it's actually
oj just because it's like such an old man oh i'm what i who also would ghostwrite oj simpson's
tweets yeah think i'm playing motherfucker i will find your ass and cut you.
Don't believe me.
Just watch and see.
And you have knife.
OJ.
It's like, I mean, I guess once.
Hasn't he learned anything?
Yeah.
He's like, what are you going to do?
Fucking take me trial again?
Double jeopardy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I do wonder how much is just.
Like, you think pretty soon he's just going to be like embracing the fact that he killed Nicole and.
Kind of is already.
Was Evan Gold?
No, no, Ron.
Ron.
Ron Goldman.
Yeah.
So, I mean, this is Ron Goldman's sister is putting out a podcast.
about on yesterday's show that she's putting out a podcast where she just refers to him as the killer and kind of digs into the details of the murder case and she was also speculating that
the last time oj committed a crime that was like you know well obviously you're going to jail
was the day after the book If I Did It came out.
So he's really pissed at the Goldman's.
When he came on Twitter, he was like, I've got some things to straighten out and some people to shut up.
Didn't they take the, they got the rights to the book.
So they got the rights to the book.
And so the book was originally called If I Did It.
They got the rights to the book.
And so the book was originally called If I Did It.
They got the rights to it, took the if and made it like size.01 font.
Oh, so it says I did it. And so it just says I did it with a picture of OJ Simpson.
The day after that came out, he went in and robbed that dude at gunpoint and got thrown in prison for nine years.
He was taking back his stuff.
Right.
What? by kidnapping him
ron goldman's sister is speculating that a podcast out from her that's like really
taunting him and you know all these he just doesn't deal well with people pointing out
the fact that he got away with murder basically uh and so? Yeah, it hurts Just like Donald Trump Yeah, yeah
Don't point out some shit
Right
Mind your business
Fake news
Don't point, don't analyze history in front of me
Right
Let me take a stab at this
Yeah, there you go
Cutting analysis
Right
Well, I quit
So that's been it for the Daily Zeitgeist.
It's a King of the Hill situation. Whoever gets in that seat and puns it up.
All right. Let's talk about Kyle Kashuv. So who is this dude, Myles?
He was like the, so, you know, you had the David Hogue, right? The Parkland survivor and Emma Gonzalez who were sort of like the face of, or the two most
visible faces of the Parkland shooting.
Right.
And this guy was sort of basically the
conservative counterpoint to those two.
Right. Like working with Turning Point,
going on Fox to be like, I actually,
I for one embrace our NRA
overlords. Right. And don't blame
them at all for the horrific violence that I
witnessed. He was though, like his public image was very, overlords right uh and don't blame them at all for the horrific violence that i witnessed he was
though like his public image was very i don't know even-handed like he was like what emma and david
are doing is like you know we're both after the same thing they're just doing it in a different
way but he was really coming across as sort of a good guy uh even if he's a conservative and that's
a can be a contradiction of terms he He wasn't attacking them for sure.
But he was supporting the NRA.
Yes.
He was a good supporter of the NRA.
You know those.
Did he wear a little suit and everything?
Oh, he loved his suit.
He looks like a little child in a suit
which makes him adorable.
Charlie McCarthy doll.
But now he's back in the news
because David Hogue also got into Harvard. Yeah, so he and David Charlie McCarthy doll. Yeah. And, you know, but now, so he's back in the news because, you know, David Hogue also got
into Harvard.
Yeah.
So he and David Hogue got into Harvard.
Yep.
And Harvard was like, we'll take one from each side.
Yeah.
Great.
And then-
One being white guys.
Yeah.
Yes.
Evidence appeared of his love for racist and anti-Semitic language.
Oh, yeah.
And Harvard swiftly gave him the naw, fam.
Sorry.
Bye-bye.
Curved you.
Blackberry curve.
Bye-bye.
Curvature of the earth.
One of his classmates, Ariana Ali, said that the more prominent he got, the more I was bothered by his hypocrisy.
He pretends to be this God-fearing, squeaky clean type, but everyone who knows him knows that's not who he really is.
He's a bigot.
He used the N-word frequently
in text message and in person.
He was obsessed with ranking
which women were most attractive
by race. Out of nowhere
he'd go, want to hear my racial ranking
system?
What? Yeah.
Hey, just to break the ice
here, you want to know which
race is more attractive? Thanks, Kyle. No. You're really going to break the ice here. Yeah. You want to know which race is more attractive?
No.
Thanks, Kyle.
No.
But no, you're really going to want to hear this.
It's a very objective index.
I was fair.
Yeah.
I was fair with my ratings.
But this is the person that the right side of the culture war has come to the defense of.
Of course.
And just been like, what?
So now nobody can get into college.
No, nobody can say racism stuff.
Right.
Yeah.
Like they're acting like this person has been, that they like broke into this person's phone
and like found a risque picture of them or something like that.
It's this insane violation of privacy.
No.
When in fact it was like some of the stuff came from like a Google doc,
from a study guide for an AP history test.
He was in a study group with other students,
and he wrote the N-word like eight times really fast and was like,
look how good I am at writing this.
It's because I have a lot of practice.
Practice makes perfect.
It was a shared doc?
Yeah, shared doc with other students.
Oh, boy. And even said Lol, lol, lol. Yeah, share doc with other students. Oh, boy.
And even said kill all the fucking Jews.
Yeah.
Like, and then he goes on, he's like, my parents are Jewish.
I go to synagogue every week.
And it's like, what?
It's okay.
What the fuck is wrong with you?
I mean, he talks.
He's trying to be like an edgelord.
He talks like one of those people who is radicalized or is about to be radicalized.
Right, exactly.
You know, and I think that's what people are missing.
They're sort of taking this as sort of,
again, when a white man is held accountable,
the culture war battalion gets in formation
and they do the thing,
Brett Kavanaugh, well, he just liked beer.
Right.
And boys will be rapists.
Yes.
Sort of that defense.
Magotine, oh, he was actually very polite.
It was that just really rude Native American man. Yes. Sort of that defense. Magotine. Oh, he was actually very polite. It was that
just really rude Native American man. Right. It's like, again, there's always there's never
the ability to actually look objectively at what this person did and look at it through an
objective lens. It's just immediately like, oh, this person on the right is a white male who's
being held accountable or being called out. Well, we need to start spinning the whole narrative
to try and figure out where we're at.
And this whole thing, like, right, there's Ben Shapiro came out on Daily Wire,
had an article that said,
Harvard rescinds admission to conservative Kyle Kashuv
over private racist remarks he wrote at 16,
despite apology and evidence of growth.
This is disgusting.
I'm sorry, private racist?
It was private.
You know what I mean?
Like, those are the kind of people who keep you,
or people like me, from getting a job. Who might not be outwardly racist but they're private racists
right and be like oh does this person do i want to offer this person something well maybe not
but i won't know i can hide behind this other thing so i don't give a fuck what private racism
is racism regardless right i'm a private murderer yes Yes. Right. You still engage in this shit. So he tweeted some of these terrible things?
No, he texted them to classmates and was known to say them to them in person.
Yeah.
But the evidence that they're presenting is from a Google Doc that Ben Shapiro has chosen
to claim was a private Google Doc.
Right.
So it's okay if you're doing something in private.
Having gone to high school in the Midwest, I knew some pretty terrible people.
Right.
And of course, that was before the era of social media.
Right.
And I think every one of those people would hopefully not have a career or a future in
anything.
or a future in anything, but you combine social media and technology with an age where these kids, they have no idea of right and wrong, and they feel like there's no consequence.
And so I think a lot of them parrot the things their parents say.
Oh, absolutely.
But they're not guessing or second-guessing the right or wrong to it.
Right.
And the fact that this kid got into Harvard and was openly saying these things and no one was calling him out, I think it's sad and makes me worry about where we're headed from here.
If this is bad, where are we headed?
Yeah, well, I guess that's the part where Harvard does things like this,
and that sends a message to other people who will be like,
hey, remember that kid?
Don't be, like, at the very least, they're like,
we don't want people who are that out there with their racism.
Right, and also we're not advocating that he be put to death.
We're saying that Harvard is perfectly within their rights
to rescind his acceptance to their college.
Right, they're a private school.
Right, and that's consequences to his actions.
And I think the real danger is what that person becomes if there are no consequences to those actions.
Like, that's fucking terrifying.
Right.
You know, he could probably get a scholarship to Nicholas Sparks' university.
This is why I think that's good on Harvard, too, because you have to consider what your
student body looks like also.
Right.
And it's like, if you allow these kind of, like, what about creating a safe environment
for students of color to get educated in when you have people who may be private racists,
but then are the kinds of people who are like, oh, there's a black person sleeping on the
couch in the dorm.
Right.
And then they're like, I go here.
So what was that?
That was a story that happened, right?
That wasn't at Harvard.
I think that was another Ivy League school where a student was just taking a nap in the
common area and another student called the police just because they were like, oh, wow,
this person's napping while black.
And again, a lot of these think pieces or these editorials defending him are all, they're
sort of like, this is another one from Scott Greenfield.
Kids do dumb stuff.
Harvard has no excuse.
Like, wow.
Only white kids are allowed to do dumb stuff.
Right.
You know, God forbid you are a black kid who wore a hoodie and walking home.
Right.
Because that's a death sentence.
Right.
But that's not dumb.
That's someone who's a predator or whatever.
So this whole thing smacks of people who, these are all written from white people who
think it is normal to say the N word, which is why they're like, what's the I mean, these are kids, you know?
No, everyone grows up saying really vile, racist shit.
And I'm sure people do. Right.
And I'm sure many people can grow past that.
But I think that's also part of like a place like Harvard letting the rest of the world know you can't get into their predatory capitalist training camp by using racial slurs. You do it after you get control of the markets, you dumb
fuck. David Brooks, a white opinion writer for the New York Times, also Harvard's false path to
wisdom, writing about how you're supposed to, morality is not an all or nothing thing
and people need to have the ability
to learn from their mistakes.
Right.
But why don't you write about the many,
many people of color who haven't been able
to learn from their mistakes?
Yeah.
The more you hold people accountable
and say like, look, you can't be like this
or do these things.
That is how we move forward.
Right.
This is how the guardrails come up and you go, oh.
Right.
Now I see the line and I don't want to transgress.
Right.
Now that he's become sort of a hot button issue, like in a person, he is already was a member of the Turning Point USA, which is a group we covered early on in our history
as a show. It's run by this dude, Charlie Kirk, and it's basically a group of conservative students
who are trying to get college campuses to be bastions of conservative thought and you know try and revive a sort of
young republicanism that became popular in the 1980s because of characters like
Alex P Keaton and shit like that or you know maybe he was a sign of the times
but either way you know that led to a bunch of shit, a decade of backwards policies and people turning away from
disadvantaged people and their problems. And Turning Point USA has also had a history of
their student leaders coming out and saying racist things, not just this dude, but there was also
a woman who was in a position of authority who like tweeted i hate
black people i just don't like them uh and had to resign from her position so um someone tweeted
that yeah oh i'm sorry officer i didn't know i couldn't say that oh boy is that a defense yes you
know the more religious and it always seems associating religion with conservatives, but the more you claim to have Christian values, I found the people to be worse, terrible.
Like, I don't want to name any names, but I have an in-law who claims to be super.
Let's call her Marge.
We'll call her in-law number one.
Oh, that's too obvious.
Elle Simpson.
Right.
No, but they say, you know, I have Christian values and I go to church every Sunday.
But truly an awful fucking human being.
Right.
Who, you know, just is disrespectful to people she deems lower class than her.
Or just if you disagree with someone,
or just talking behind people's back,
you know this person thinks they're a Christian,
but I think it's all hypocrisy.
Yeah, we talk about that a lot,
especially with evangelical Christians.
You're sort of like, oh, you've just found a way
to sort of insulate yourself from objectively analyzing your own behavior and saying, well, no, no, no.
I go to church and that's okay.
Just because you say it doesn't make you a good person.
I know I was talking about it.
It's like, yo, did you read the Bible?
Because Jesus was out here helping everybody.
Right.
I think it's all religions, all belief systems.
all you know belief systems it's just that christianity in america is the like sort of accepted uh mainstream uh majority and so people feel comfortable enough to just do their horrible
hypocritical bullshit out in the open yeah with that said i i don't think christianity by itself
is the problem it's how you know you take it and you use it to fit your need.
Are you using it to be compassionate?
Yeah.
And help others.
Right.
When it's convenient.
When it's convenient.
If you're using it to use obscure verses to be like, oh, yeah, actually, that's why being gay is bad.
Right.
Right.
Okay.
So, you know, Kyle, I think, again, I'm sure you'll have plenty of opportunities.
And he does listen to the show, so it's good that we're addressing you directly.
Yeah, yeah.
Just directly, Kyle, you know, keep your head down.
Tony, it's been a pleasure having you, man.
Thanks for having me.
Where can people find you, follow you?
I am at T-O-E-K-N-E-E-S-A-M, Tony Sam.
Oh.
Clever and hard to find and remember.
I also, I have a podcast called Legally Insane
where we talk about legal issues happening in the country
and we go back through history and bring us to the present.
And I've learned a lot about abortion laws
and things just that I never would have thought of because my co-host is a lawyer and a comedian.
And he kind of walks us and the listener through all these legal hurdles that are happening right now, especially a lot that are going on with Trump.
Right.
Oh, wow.
Cool.
What's it called again?
Legally Insane.
What kind of law does your co-host practice?
Or used to?
Well, he actually worked, I can't remember the name of the firm,
but it was like the largest firm in the United States.
It was in New York City.
But he did a lot of corporate law.
I think it's the Jacobian Myers Legal Network.
Is that true?
No, it's the guy who does all those commercials.
Right.
I'll see myself out.
Bye.
No, well, now I think he does all his own entertainment.
Nice.
So it helps, I guess.
And is there a tweet you've been enjoying, Tony?
Yeah, you know, I took a – it's hard because I really love silly.
So I took a few.
So I love Raj Desai.
Oh, yeah.
One of my favorite comedic writers.
And everything he tweets is just so stupid, but it makes me laugh.
Like this one is F the haters.
I'll say it.
I think oxygen is great.
I think oxygen is great.
I've always hated the word moist because this guy... I've always hated the word moist because this guy named Moist killed my dad.
Boo.
Two thumbs down.
Boo.
Two thumbs down.
Moistus alu.
But I guess this one would be the most relevant, I think,
when a lot of
my comedian friends are
you know they all have to have
day jobs and they're still trying to do comedy but
if it's one thing I've learned about
comedy it's that I should always
keep some black button down shirts around
for catering gigs
that was Eric DeDorian
that's pretty good
Miles where can people find you?
follow me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray.
I'm liking some reductress tweets.
First up, Juneteenth Day,
celebrating the announcement of the abolition of slavery
and free people back in 1865.
So this reductress tweet says,
celebrate Juneteenth
by Venmoing
all your black friends $50.
At least y'all could do.
Another one.
The title is just
Coworker a Little Too Ripped.
And one more,
which is creative ways
to plug your podcast
in your maid of honor speech.
That's so good freezing cold takes
retweeted world war
two tweets from 1941
Stalin rejects
another warning of imminent
German invasion from a high ranking
Soviet spy inside the Luftwaffe
tell your quote source
to go fuck his mother and i just like
that freezing cold takes tweeted that like yeah that didn't turn out so well uh the onion had a
headline that i really love taylor swift inspires teen to come out as straight woman needing to be center of gay rights narrative uh and um and then paul tompkins tweeted uh let's maybe not make any
drama set in boston for a while let's give it like three years and see if we miss it uh i think yes
true sorry and then pixelated boat tweeted sad, Sad day. Rejected from Harvard just because I started my application letter with,
What up, you chowder-eating fucks?
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a song we ride out on.
Miles, what song are we going to ride out on?
It is called Say, Can You
Hear? And it is from a band
from Montreal, Quebec
called Men I Trust.
Because there aren't too many out there.
But, yeah, they are, you know, it's kind of a four-piece band, three-piece band.
You know, they got a little nice bass picking going on.
And I really like the vocalist's voice.
So, yeah, Men I Trust.
Only one man I trust.
His initials are JC.
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