The Daily Zeitgeist - Bad Day Sheriff’s Bad Day, New Comic Book Moral Panic 3.19.21

Episode Date: March 19, 2021

In episode 840, Jack and Miles are joined by Jamie Loftus to discuss Captain Jay Baker comments about the Atlanta shooter, an armed man being arrested outside the vice president's residence, an uptick... in Covid-19 infections, Autism Speaks, right-wing media freaking out over a gay super hero, and more!FOOTNOTES: Hey Captain Jay Baker with Cherokee Country Sheriff's Office... this you? Georgia Sheriff Spokesman Posted Racist COVID Shirts on Facebook DON’T DISCOUNT EVANGELICALISM AS A FACTOR IN RACIST MURDER OF ASIAN SPA WORKERS IN GEORGIA Man arrested near vice president's residence in D.C. had rifle and ammunition, police say Experts urge caution as 15 states see uptick in COVID-19 infections Before you donate to Autism Speaks, Consider the facts Marvel Comics’ Latest Captain America Is a Gay LGBTQ Activist Newsmax host has a meltdown over gay Captain America: "The country's going bananas...He is a gay Captain America, complete with a nose ring, tats. When he takes off his skull cap there he's got, like, a Mohawk thing. He's not very muscular. What is this world come to?" Marvel Reveals First Gay Teen Captain America Is Captain America in love with Bucky Barnes? Chris Evans talks about Steve Rogers’ sexuality Twitter Really Wants Captain America and Bucky Barnes to Be a Couple How the “Code Authority” Kept LGBT Characters Out of Comics The American Superhero: Encyclopedia of Caped Crusaders in History WATCH: Kim Cattrall Scatting Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:29 My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Yeah, coal gas makes my food all stinky. That's not the point now. And coal gas gets it on my wallpaper. You missed the point now. And coal gas cooks my roast uneven. Still not the point now. Second degree suicide prevention.
Starting point is 00:02:54 That's why it's bad now. Courtesy of Ed Scrooge. And I'm thrilled to be... He's scattered it out to the landing. He stuck it on there, baby. He put it on there. I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray!
Starting point is 00:03:24 I'm a joker. I'm a joker. I'm a toker. Throw my PS controller. I speak of the incompetence of Gov. Yeah. That's what I do. I'm angry. I smoke weed and I throw PlayStation controllers in the government.
Starting point is 00:03:40 That's all there. Thanks, Steve Miller. More importantly, thanks, Johnny Davis for the Discord lob there for the AKA. Throw it down! Yes. Did you throw down alley-oops in NBA Jam?
Starting point is 00:03:56 I feel like that was missing in the version that I played. I think NBA Streets. You throw them down. I was like, is that how you would frame an alley-oop? You throw it down. Well, you toss it up and then you throw it down, Jamie. Oh, wait, no, yeah, you could because there was, yes, you totally could.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Oh, man, I feel like such a fool. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the very first face on Mount Zite Moore. The hilarious, the brilliant, the talented, the incomparable Jamie Loftus! On the Daily Zite, we'll shine some light on what's going on today. We've got lots of discussions on fascists and COVID. Let's share what they have to say the news is really effing sad let's talk about it with my podcast dad that's from max reinhold that was beautiful that's a fun inside one i love it. Wow. That was, I feel like honored that we got that.
Starting point is 00:05:07 That's beautiful. Powerful crossover energy going on. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Jamie, how are you doing? You know. That's perfect.
Starting point is 00:05:23 That's an opposite. Yeah. Just a real raspberry. that's perfect yeah just a real raspberry it's you know it is what it is every time every time you think that things are looking up then all of a sudden guess what something
Starting point is 00:05:41 terrible happens and it's not when you think you're out you're right back think you're out. Just when you think you're out. You're doing and not. I'm trying to get to, I've been trying to get to the scat level. That's when I'll be worried. I'm scatting.
Starting point is 00:06:03 How am I? That's my equivalent of like playing the fiddle as the world burns. I'm just going to scat as it all falls down. How do I feel? Actually, grab that upright bass behind me. Hey, with all the she-dogs. Hey, with all the she-dogs. And you start doing the Kim Cattrall.
Starting point is 00:06:23 The town never knew such a hullabaloo. I sometimes worry that not enough people have seen that clip. I agree. It's so purifying. If you don't know what Miles was just interpreting there, you need to Google Kim Cattrall scat, and that'll do it. And the context of her desperately trying to make her marriage to a jazz bassist work like in the context of that it just there's there's just so much
Starting point is 00:06:53 it's more than just her scatting you know like when you really oh yeah like where is she at okay so she probably has a lot of money at this point. Right. And then this is how she's passing the time in this weird New York Times of a wedding marriage that she's in. Yeah, it sounds like an algorithm came up with it. You're just like, oh, God. So bleak. But the scatting?
Starting point is 00:07:19 Pretty shitty. The last time... I mean, the town did never... The town hasn't heard of such a hullabaloo since people have been saying yeah the scatting's worse than a poo speaking of
Starting point is 00:07:34 Kim Cattrall and poo the last time I tweeted about Kim Cattrall scatting which was not too long ago someone said that there was like a story about Kim Cattrall pooping on the side of the sidewalk once like just when she was out. Like just a certain. I feel like she just kind of I don't know.
Starting point is 00:07:51 I think she was just like, it can't wait. That almost feels like someone heard a reference to Kim Cattrall scatting and just interpreted it that way. And that's how it came into the universe. But that's that's amazing let's let's dig into that not literally i hope it's true yeah if the dig in fact checkers can go out there uh love to hear hear details uh not details that makes me sound very weird all right jamie we're gonna get to know you a little. What was it like? What was consistency-wise?
Starting point is 00:08:29 What are we talking? Play-Doh? Soft Play-Doh? Hard Play-Doh? That's kind of dried up and you're like, uh-oh, can't play with this anymore. Let me in, man. Let me in. Such a sad moment when you find the Play-Doh that's been left out overnight and it's just over. It's over for that Play-Doh that's been left out overnight and it's just over. It's over for that Play-Doh. I hate it.
Starting point is 00:08:48 It made my hands smell weird. Always. All right, Jamie, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about today. So that sheriff, the bad day sheriff, who was like, he had a bad day and this is what happened. Come on, man. It's like the end of American Idol when someone gets kicked off, man. You had a bad day. You guys know this trope.
Starting point is 00:09:14 It's part of our culture. Yes. We found out a little bit more about him. Also about the sheriff who he works with, who described the shooter as lashing out, like a frustrated parent talking about a toddler. We'll talk about just the general combination of white supremacy, toxic masculinity that the response has kind of revealed, highlighted, and also just a trend connecting it to church culture so we'll talk about that we'll talk about the man who was arrested out of the vp residence with uh guns and ammo uh we'll talk about covid cases on the rise again in certain states uh we will say officially, fuck Autism Speaks.
Starting point is 00:10:17 There's been, yet again, another week, another ad network issue where ads from a hateful group start appearing on our show. Absolutely fucking vile, yeah. So we're working on getting to the bottom of how this keeps happening but for the time being uh we will talk about uh why autism speaks is terrible do one yeah can go do one uh we'll talk about uh right-wing media uh response to uh a gay captain america. We'll talk about. I already know. Just the words, Jack. Just the words, Jack. Gay Captain America.
Starting point is 00:10:54 What's next is the sentence that comes right after that. That's always the pivot. What's next? What's next, huh? I'm going to have to start having sex with a an alpaca what's next Kim Cattrall taking a little poo poo on the side of the road
Starting point is 00:11:12 and I have to go play with it gotta go like mash around in it without gloves what's next honestly what's next what's next I gotta start a website where I stream my activities what's next? Honestly, what's next? I gotta like that? What's next? I gotta start a website where I stream my activities? What's next?
Starting point is 00:11:28 Check me out at scatology. Anyway, forget it. What's next? They love telling on themselves. No, yummy. What's next? We love it, folks. What is next? Ooh, I like it. Bring it on. What is next? What is it? What is it, though? What is next? Same-sex marriage? Yay! What is next? What is it?
Starting point is 00:11:45 What is it, though? What is next? Same-sex marriage? Yay! What's next? Before we get to any of that, Jamie, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history? Okay. So Kim Cattrall Scatting was on the list.
Starting point is 00:12:09 scouting was on the list uh also on the list was final destination composer because there was this uh it was a clip that i was looking for that i vaguely remembered from a final destination dvd didn't remember which dvd but i was able to find it there's this really great i think that she composed most of the final destination soundtracks and i was really into those movies growing up because they were just so nasty this is final destination 3 aka the tanning booth one but it's it's the final destination composer describing her process and i think they're like setting her up to like really be like so you know being a musician is really hard but what she does is she has this like little like grosso meter and she's like so when i'm writing for final destination three there's like you there's a point where i say it's a little gross it's really gross or it's like someone's on
Starting point is 00:12:57 fire and they're dying gross and i just kind of figure out like if it's level one two or three and that's how i write all the music and she has this little like hand-drawn grossometer that has like hand-drawn blood dripping of it and she's like and that's really my whole process and uh and it works and i was like holy it it made me laugh so hard it holds up i will i'll send the clip clip because I pulled it for posterity. She was so straightforward. I appreciate that she's like, it's not hard. I just like that it also demystifies something like the composition of a film score.
Starting point is 00:13:35 Where I think most people, if you're not a musician, you're like, I don't even know what these people fucking do. They sit down and start writing notes on a fucking paper. What the fuck? How is it? But if you're a fucking page like what the fuck how is it and then but if you're a musician like you understand the process a little bit more and then for me as a musician to hear her just be like nah it's real simple man like it's there's three vibe levels and that sort of determines where i go with it like yes simple perfect she's so good her name is shirley walker and she died shortly after the Final Destination 3 came out.
Starting point is 00:14:06 She set the tone for Final Destination, and then she arrived at her final destination, I assume peacefully and not like a Final Destination movie. But it made me laugh. Well, she was driving behind a tractor trailer that was carrying a bunch of logs, right? And rebar. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. as peacefully as one can and then a thumb tracked a thumbtack truck crashed on the road ahead of them anyway oh no she died as she lived no she was she was like so then i like this is a level three on the gross her own system she did but she did so many and then i like went down a shirley
Starting point is 00:14:49 wogger hole i'm like this lady was so goddamn cool she did like the score for like escape from la and true lies and like all these fun movies and she was like one of the first prominent female film composers and she worked on a grossometer system. I love her. That's amazing. I love that, especially like I would like to view that next to another like a director's commentary from those films. Who's like being real pretentious and being like, well, you see what she's just like. No, it's a final final destination she was the music
Starting point is 00:15:27 director for batman the animated series yeah that's cool okay yo her i'm sorry her death is tragic as fuck oh i mean it was before too i mean yeah but like she she like passed away like eight months right after her husband passed away uh so yeah anyway rest in power though oh and she won she won an emmy for batman the animated series she's really cool i don't know i feel like there's all these like stories like this of like pioneers in fields that no one ever talks about and then whenever you stumble across it it's always the coolest story of all time 100 i'm like she's working fuck it worked with danny elfman and then that's what she based the bat all the what the ah this is good she's awesome and so i'll
Starting point is 00:16:10 post that clip of her explaining her grossometer composition system because it's great we will put that in the footnotes i respect final destination Destination like best case scenario I would have come up with the Final Destination movies what if fortune cookies were true they totally nailed exactly what I was looking for in movies when I was like
Starting point is 00:17:00 to this day I will not reach my hand into a sink like where there's a garbage in compactor incinerator thing blender you know i mean in sinkerator uh without thinking of final destination yeah it's ridiculous final destination three was i think the first final destination i saw the one where everyone dies on the fucking roller coaster and it's mary elizabeth winstead is the lead. Like there's a bunch of people who ended up getting famous. But in this one, they're just beheaded on a roller coaster.
Starting point is 00:17:31 It's so fucking right away. Gross. It's so good. Yeah. It's a level three. Amanda Crew is in Final Destination 3. Who would have known? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:42 Yo, she's a fucking legend. Who would have known? Yeah. Yo, she's a fucking legend. She worked with everyone. And based on how her credits are working, I'm going to presume she had a lot to do with a lot of these scores. Because whenever you have Hans Zimmer or these other people, it's very collaborative. I mean, early on, a lot of them are doing a lot of composition. But at this level, she worked with Danny Elfman on dick tracy edward scissorhands oh well dude fucking han zimmer on bird out of wire here
Starting point is 00:18:12 most of these yeah i can yeah damn fucking worked this is this is what a league of their own toys radio flyer with han zimmer re. Okay, you know what? Damn. Okay, Shirley, walk on. When she died, she had, like, what was it? At the time of her death, Shirley Walker had scored more major studio motion pictures than any other American woman. She's a badass. She's cool. Wow.
Starting point is 00:18:41 So that was a fun way to learn about Shirley. Highly recommend going down the Shirley hole. Wow. So that was a fun way to learn about Shirley. Highly recommend going down the Shirley hole. Yeah. Because she's conducting. Some of these credits, at the very least, she was the conductor when they were recording these scores, conducting the orchestra or whatever. Man.
Starting point is 00:18:58 Fucking backdraft! Wow! Wait! Shirley! Shirley! Shirley! Shirley! She's a... And she only lived to be 61. Wow. Wait, Charlie. Charlie. Charlie. She's an, ugh.
Starting point is 00:19:08 And she only lived to be 61. Legend. Legend. Yeah. DJ Justin just put in the chat a detail that I will not be able to unknow is that his best friend's parents' house had an automatic garbage disposal unit in their sink no that is with a motion sensor
Starting point is 00:19:30 like i think it must have no like sensed when there was food to chop up but could you imagine if like the sensor was off a little bit that is unacceptable also one more thing just so you know fucking a goofy movie she did a goofy movie yes she conducted and orchestrated the score damn she's uh she's just and she's like just a mom she's like listen it's not hard to compose a final destination score i'm shirley walker like i do difficult things all the time this is not one of them i just love it she's like i did edward scissorhands you fuck wit yeah i'm fucking around with final destination come on this is a check to me okay dude arachnophobia i love it child's play too where was it where was it shirley she she really was the moment she was the moment for decades
Starting point is 00:20:27 one of the tools that was created specifically for the scoring oh my god this is the grossometer i i had to pause it because you can't see the video i'm just playing it for everybody it is such it is like a remarkable piece like back when you used to do like a book report project and you had to do like an accompanying like art piece with it this grossometer is one of the greatest handmade things i've ever seen in my life science project but we thought that grossometer was far more elegant boobs and brains is level one did the artwork and we would uh let the orchestra know what the grosso rating was so this one was like at about a 60 as it was filmed but i challenged the orchestra to bring it up with their performance to and a at least an 80 and i think the performance
Starting point is 00:21:20 really we were close to 100 on that And I think the performance, really, we were close to 100 on that. So level one is boobs and burns. Level two is dismemberment and wiggly guts. And level three is blood spatter and brain matter. Wow. Shirley! I needed a Shirley bless up.
Starting point is 00:21:44 I hadn't even, like, I guess that makes sense but like burns would seem to be almost as bad as blood spatter but no i guess not like visceral when you're watching something happen right yeah i mean she she would know i guess she's she's yeah she did final destinations one through three wow jamie what is something you think is overrated uh something overrated this is just a really brutal cell phone i'm going back to that groupon dentist i went to two years ago well what are you doing the one that sneezed in your mouth the one that i'm assuming they won't they legally can't sneeze in my mouth anymore that's the gamble i'm taking is at least there's a mask they gotta be wearing a mask because i went in 2019 and she should have been wearing a mask then
Starting point is 00:22:31 but now i'm like she's definitely gonna have to wear a mask and they didn't do a terrible job dental wise it was really just the sneezing in the mouth that was the problem so i'm like i'm gonna give them a second chance and see if legally having to wear a mask and still accepting my groupon because i also had to do that thing where i created a new groupon because you can't buy the same groupon twice so i had to make a new account and it she's gonna remember you i i i'm like maybe she remembered or maybe she doesn't even work there anymore. I don't know. She's like, oh, another Groupon, huh?
Starting point is 00:23:07 All right. I'm going to get extra sneezy now. I mean, I still wonder to this day, did she feel entitled to sneeze into my mouth due to the Groupon? Like, I don't know. Is this how they discourage Groupons? But I really, you know, once again, I need like a deep clean on my teeth. That thing where they just took a jackhammer to your face. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:31 And they'll do that with the Groupon, so I'm going back. There you go. But it's overrated. I shouldn't. I should have found a better option. It's a weird track record given, you know, the state of things out there. But, you know, it's each their own. I was kind of wondering. I'm like, oh, I wonder if I should mention that. given the state of things out there, but it's each their own.
Starting point is 00:23:46 I was kind of wondering, I'm like, oh, I wonder if I should mention that as a joke at the beginning of like, oh, haha, the last time I came here, someone sneezed on me. Oh, yeah. Debra, she's the manager now. Oh, yeah, she actually has been promoted and she owns the business.
Starting point is 00:24:02 It's a complimentary service we offer. She'll be here. Also, this dental office always has appointments available which is the other that i'm we can take you now we're actually super bored uh we haven't seen anybody in super bored we've just been looking at the sun all day sneezing nothing more sinister than a dentist saying they're bored like you're just like fuck someone up dent dentists share some dna with like vets who will uh you know prescribe there's a lot of gray area a lot of interpretive uh work in terms of like what how much work they
Starting point is 00:24:41 want to do and how really just scting. It's medical scatting. It's medical scatting. They're just riffing. You know, we could... We could deep clean that for you. Do a root canal. It's a mouth mechanic, basically. Yeah, a mouth mechanic. Do you have your teeth rotated yet?
Starting point is 00:24:59 My teeth are rotating? Hey, we could just slip these around. Just sit-balling stuff. Bottom teeth on the top, top teeth oning stuff. Get you out of here in 45. Bottom teeth on the top, top teeth on the bottom. Have you thought about that? Hey, Kim Kardashian had it. A personal shopper.
Starting point is 00:25:11 Like, I was thinking about a new look for you this year. Bottom on top. Flip them around. What do you think? Oh, man. Big bottom teeth, little top teeth. Big bottom, little top? It's just a spitball.
Starting point is 00:25:24 You know, big booties are in big bottom teeth too i feel you won't regret it and if you don't like it i'll just flip them back yeah you're gonna love eating corn what is uh what's something that you think is underrated oh uh one thing that is underrated is uh buying door-to-door churros i this was my first experience with there this ended up being a bizarre situation but like my landlord was having some stuff dropped off at our apartment and was like hey someone's gonna be dropping off some stuff and i was like okay no problem and then the guy got there and he was just like he dropped off it was like cleaning something i don't know it was some landlord shit and then the guy was like by the way do you guys
Starting point is 00:26:13 want churros and i was like what do you mean and and then we were like talking to him for 10 minutes about his churro business and he was like you know i'm trying to get to gluten-free i'm not quite a gluten-free but i am a dairy-free and like he just and then he was like i could come back in 20 minutes with like a shitload of churros and we were like okay and then so if you live in la and you want these churros i'll plug him it's at hippie churros and hippie churros at hippie churros they're not gluten-free yet but they are dairy-free don't need and there i i've been munching on them for a whole day and it was it was not how i expected that delivery for my landlord to go but i was it was the first human interaction i'd had in several days and it went so well because it because then i got a bunch of
Starting point is 00:27:05 delicious reasonably priced churros straight to my door sounds like a like a scene from how to with john wilson he's like and then my landlord had someone drop stuff off and we talked and it turns out he wanted to talk a lot about churros so So I followed him to his churro factory and they're pretty good. And then the guy's like, yeah, I got him to almost, they're not gluten free, but they're dairy free. That was the fourth time he said that in 10 minutes. If it had been, I mean, it's like, cause it's like, I do have time. If it were safe, it would have been fun to invite him in and be like, what's your story,
Starting point is 00:27:41 man? Cause he was wearing like sunglasses that that were the shape of stars. Oh, I was hoping for a churro. And they had yellow lenses. And I was like, this guy's a businessman. He's wheeling and dealing. That's what that tells me. A guy's wearing star-shaped sunglasses.
Starting point is 00:28:00 I'm like, I better take this guy seriously. And I can vouch for the churros. They're delicious. I'm like I better take this guy seriously yeah and um I I can vouch for the churros they're delicious I'm loving them and what what kind of cut are you getting off of these uh churro recommendations that I'm just I just love a local business and I love an assertive person showing up I feel like I would not have gotten to that point in the conversation. So I really, I want to figure out how to like have that John Wilson, Jamie Loftus, like finding out what's interesting about people.
Starting point is 00:28:34 I would, I would just don't slam the door in people's faces. I would just be, it's not that I'm not like mean. I'm just like so avoidant and like shut off that I would never be able to get to the point of him offering to sell me churros. I think you just got to say yes to life. That's what the man shows up in the star shaped sunglasses.
Starting point is 00:28:57 You say, tell me more. Say less. Yeah. That man. I, and now I'm like, does my landlord know him?
Starting point is 00:29:06 Is it like, I don't, I wasn't clear on like that. I don't know. The landlord's like, you didn't eat his churros, did you? Yeah, but I contacted her and she was just like, oh, you didn't eat those churros. Don't eat them. It's like the ring. It's like seven days to live. No, they're delicious.
Starting point is 00:29:23 Love it. At Hippie Chururro if you want some delicious groovy churros that's how they advertise themselves delicious groovy churros you're plugging this so hard i feel like what you did was take a first bite in front of them that you didn't like and you're like oh wow you like them right these are good oh no no you hate them don't you know i love them i'm going on a podcast tomorrow actually where I'm going to tell people about him. Yo, you're fucking lying.
Starting point is 00:29:49 No, I swear. Starman. Starman, it's okay. Chur bro. It sounds like a dream when we describe it now, but Starman came to our door and he had all sorts of churros and we bought them and they're so good.
Starting point is 00:30:04 And just like a fragile man, he collapsed when you didn't extol all the virtues of the churros and we we bought them and they're so good and just like a fragile man he collapsed when he didn't extol all the virtues of the trojan you hate me fuck all right i love it delicious uh all right we're gonna take a break and we'll come back and talk about fragile men. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts, separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times
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Starting point is 00:34:07 available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. So let's talk about we referenced the fact that in the aftermath of the mass murder of Asian women in Georgia on Tuesday, the police were just very. Dying to humanize the guy who committed the murder said he was having a bad day, said he just lashed out, blamed his problems on addiction. And so people just started doing a little little research on the police who were who were making these observations on the murderers behalf. Research or just looked at their facebook yep how did they get down on facebook and captain j baker uh was in like dude march 30th of 2020 he was already out here like hawking china virus t-shirts because he's saying oh new design alert announcing a new design place your blah blah it's like this covid19 and like a corona beer font and it says like it exported from china so yes of course this same yeah police captain who's out here obscuring the actions of this uh
Starting point is 00:35:41 you know hateful uh white supremacist yeah he's out here doing the same thing peddling more white supremacist propaganda nonsense hate hateful vitriolic t-shirts yeah literally white supremacist merch like it's right yeah it's just wild because it's like that's how white supremacy is just it's so systemic so it always feels like a setup you know what i mean it's like they kill out of hate but then there's a white supremacist in a position of authority to then obscure what actually happened and because of their position of authority of saying like well you know i don't like i think he was having a bad day he said something about sex addiction and then in turn you have a complicit media who's complicit in white supremacy who then
Starting point is 00:36:25 goes on their merry way to debate sex addiction rather than you know the proliferation in hate crimes or maybe even speak of the hyper sexualization if fetish fetishization of asians or how that in and of itself is an expression of racism no okay maybe he was addicted to sex is where it's end they legitimately there there were headlines that said not racially motivated. Like they they just declared it. They open and shut case as far as a lot of a lot of media outlets were. Well, I think the next level is now that people have to realize white supremacy just doesn't mean white people against black people. Right. You know, I right you know i think that's
Starting point is 00:37:05 i think that's the next stage we're at is clearly having to people to or not most people understand what white supremacy is but in the media sense of like you have to you have to begin describing this shit for what it is this is the same thing we've been running into since the summer yeah um the there was a sheriff also involved who uh said the shooter was uh lashing out and he people looked at his background and from 2005 to 2008 he worked for uh blackwater the oh sick yeah with eric prince yeah yeah Prince. It is still such a common media narrative to treat police and sheriffs as credible sources that don't need to be fact checked. And it's like that. It's I mean, it's like how many examples do you need to prove that? It's like that is very much not the case. But it seems like there's so many media outlets that have this vested interest in preserving their relationships with police forces and like taking them at their word or what will happen. And it's it's so absurd because you can literally go to someone's Facebook and find out how like extremely racist and biased and hateful they actually are and why you shouldn't take them at their word under any circumstances like it's just yeah yeah and it's in its nicest form we could we should call them unreliable narrators they're oh my god in the nicest way i feel like
Starting point is 00:38:35 that's the next step but me just uh and in looking at this seems to be that these people may be unreliable narrators seems like maybe they have a little bit of bias going on. It's just fucking. I don't know that that whole intuitive. Let's trust a cop when they're giving a press conference. It's like fucking why? Like, you know, because they watch many Batman movies and shit. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:01 Commissioner Gordon speaking. You know, it's like, no, this guy is also a white supremac supremacist like just fucking yeah just be like why don't you talk about that but i get to for them it's like well then we don't get the scoops on all the local robberies for our you know click bait articles and news spots that we do to keep people in this loop of fear which helps us you know get more uh higher ratings rather than actually inform people about what's happening to contribute to like a more informed population. But, you know, that's not what this is about anymore. They need those white supremacy clicks. supporting the police or like how important that is to the police how much a part of the system the police know that is by how petulantly they respond anytime they're accused of right white
Starting point is 00:39:53 supremacy or racism because i'll tell you you know like if journalists want to that you can you can report on crime and stuff without the police cooperating with you yeah yeah yeah like you don't need them to be able to sure they were maybe documents and questions they can answer but there's a lot of information you can access freely uh that like rather than feeling like oh but you got to be in with them because then they're gonna release juicy details uh before other people and it's like is that even the best way to do let it no it like, how is that narrative going to result in a factual report? It never is going to.
Starting point is 00:40:27 I hate. Yeah, I can't place the story. But I was reading something about somebody who like was reporting on something or doing something that a police officer wasn't happy with. And they threatened to. They were like, well, you know, know it's gonna be hard for us to like come protect you like we want to protect you but it's it's gonna be hard uh for us to anytime like that's that's the other thing is they are protect me from who you right they are the people who are legally allowed to murder people with with with impunity. So, uh,
Starting point is 00:41:05 it also, you know, just from a physical safety standpoint, I think people probably, that probably helps as well. It helps them kind of maintain that position where they're like, yeah, I had a bad day.
Starting point is 00:41:19 Now let's get back to, uh, the sick action maneuver, uh, from fast and the Furious we used to pull him over. And everyone's just like, okay, moving on.
Starting point is 00:41:29 Yes, yes, sir. Oh, wow. Is that? Oh, I remember Paul Walker did that. Yeah, exactly. Could you say that a little louder? I don't think everybody heard you. Paul Walker.
Starting point is 00:41:41 Yeah. P-dubs. That's who I am. And this guy, you know, we're like a family here. So it's another way of white supremacists. If you want to.
Starting point is 00:41:52 Yikes. But yeah, this whole thing is just like, it's a continuing evolution. It continues the conversation on many levels because this thing isn't as simple as like, this guy killed them because this thing isn't as simple as like this guy killed them because this like a lot of this hate that people learn is a fucking it's a mixture of so many things from the media you're
Starting point is 00:42:13 ingesting the people you're around and even the maybe your religious practices too there's this really interesting piece from this ex-evangelical scholar named chrissy strupp um on how like the defense of like but god said my sex desires are bad so i had to eliminate them sounds like the kind of shit you hear in many churches across the nation um and so i just want to read a few excerpts from this article because it's really interesting um first she starts quoting this professor joshua gibbs who's a assistant professor of psychology at bowling green Green State University, who has has published research on religion and attitudes towards sex, saying, quote, sex addiction is simply not a credible defense for mass murder. Thank you. His research, however, points to that. However, is that a quote conservative Christian men are prone to believe that they have pornography or sex addictions even when they do not. And then so they go on to say about how this guy, Aaron Long, was on his way to target the porn industry in Florida.
Starting point is 00:43:13 It was like his sort of next move, essentially. According to this professor, quote, there's a large and growing body of research that shows that conservative religious values are strongly linked to feelings of sex addiction we find that men in particular are likely to interpret normal sexual urges as pathological and then act on them in ways uh that they find to be problematic and it isn't totally shocking um but how it all even blends in with like purity culture too we talk about those purity balls and things like that like where this is where they begin to get you like the your mainlining toxic masculinity as a child because of all this purity thing quote purity culture again places heavy emphasis on temptation and evil pornography is considered evil and something to be eliminated given that framing it's not surprising that
Starting point is 00:44:01 someone might view all sexual quote temptations as evil and needing to be eliminated. And furthers like this idea that men are out of control. Women must protect their innocence and purity, which allows for rampant victim blaming because of this sort of this relationship. And also demonizing any woman who has sex and enjoys it like that whole culture of protecting purity is like not only are yeah the fact the fact that it can be on a range of i am attracted to someone and i feel like i shouldn't be and so i have to eliminate the temptation all the way to like this woman is having sex that i'm not having and so she has to be eliminated and she is like uh i mean she's loose she's whatever. Like, it's so, it goes so, so, so, so deep. And it goes, even with like, you know,
Starting point is 00:45:10 we constantly talk about how, you know, white men have to protect their innocent white women from men of color that will do anything to defile them. That's where this more, this hyper-sexualization intertwined with the white supremacy shows itself you know i'm pointing all the way back to othello and shit of like this fear of making the beast with two backs uh with this black ram and the pure white you or whatever the fuck i remember that shit stuck out to me as a kid i'm like what the fuck is like this is um so then they this this another um
Starting point is 00:45:42 a quote from a woman who was very heavily involved in Southern Baptist communities, who was a woman of color, Asian-American woman. And she talks about the white supremacy that she experienced in this context of Southern Baptist communities saying, well, first of all, she says she after Trump got all the support of evangelicals, that sort of was her. The signal is like, Oh, this is fully, completely gone off the rails from what I thought it was going to be. Um, but she says, quote, white supremacy holds Asians in a weird light,
Starting point is 00:46:11 complimenting them on being quote, the good minority, while also devaluing women into sex objects who exist for their pleasure. Uh, as an adult in the Southern Baptist community, I saw this fetish and devaluation from white men who thought I should have sex with them because as an Asian, I was a geisha, which they take to mean sex worker. And so it's not really cheating or adultery for them. And then she talks about the difference
Starting point is 00:46:35 of interacting with men of color in the Southern Baptist community who were not sexualizing her, but the white men in the community would have this tactic of bringing up their addiction to pornography and like come forth and just let this all out with the expectation that she would have sex with them jesus christ so like there's so many layers to this but you're seeing how it all it's all working together like on on so many different levels and so to take, to just for any media to be like, it's sex addiction, simple as, he didn't say that, even if it was, like, let's be real, like you have,
Starting point is 00:47:10 you need to actually also talk about all of these things because it's not just so cut and dry like that, which is what white supremacists would like you to think because if it's such a strict binary, it either is or isn't all the time. And if they can always say it isn't, then does white supremacy exist? Well, and's also like say framing it as a sex addiction it just makes it sound like a murderer was somehow suffering and is somehow a victim in all of this like it is like intentionally
Starting point is 00:47:37 distancing him from women that he murdered like and and no context for the murder other than well he was suffering and hurt people hurt people which is like the most disingenuous way you could possibly frame a crime that like you're saying miles there's so many different layers of hatred and bias involved and so just making it sound like well he was suffering so you know shit happens it's like no there's there's like five different really important conversations to be had. Right. It's not shit happens. It's if you give a fuck, then let's talk about solutions.
Starting point is 00:48:12 Let's talk about how to address it, not just, meh, shit happens. The media is not equipped for that because it threatens to upend too many systems of power that have just been in place for too long. The geisha thing is so when I went to college, the book that they had us read leading into our freshman year, like the freshman year reading series was memoirs of a geisha, which is written by an old white guy about like from the perspective of a geisha. And it's like incredibly you know we and i've
Starting point is 00:48:48 just heard like being in a interracial marriage like i've heard so much just people either slipping and saying shit or uh say saying shit because they just think it's like it doesn't even occur to them like oh yeah i would i would see my dad press other adults as a kid and i and i realized because they would say shit about my mom yeah and i didn't know that till i was an adult but i was like what the fuck happened there he's like we're not fucking with that family anymore i was like what the fuck yeah and like or saying like around oh put your jap flaps on they were at our house the kids had sandals on he's like yeah get your jap flaps on kids my dad was like yo i need to meet you outside real quick and i was just like
Starting point is 00:49:30 i didn't know that till i was older but yeah this is this like dehumanization especially in american culture too like world war ii gave people a lot of fucked up ideas about asian people as well not to say that there was tons of atrocities happening during World War II, but that momentum I definitely saw a lot of because even with that family who was calling slippers with a slur was like, oh, I didn't know. I just grew up. That's what my family called them since the beginning. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:50:00 And you're like, this is the shit that we don't, these are the kinds of small things that people aren't aware't aware of that allow for like i don't know i can say that in front of a human being who will take that personally and it's nothing and it's just so yeah there's just like this white supremacist gaze that like is everywhere uh it definitely uh you know involves sexuality and like the the male gaze and is dehumanizing there was uh there was when i was working on lolita podcast there was um i mean anime kind of comes up a lot because uh lollycon is a term that's directly connected to lolita but it's a complete i mean it's a relatively separate thing that is just an entire culture that's built around hyper sexualizing young asian women and it's so so so like just
Starting point is 00:50:54 pervasive and everywhere and it's and and people that i would try to talk to about it to say like do you ever think about this? They they shut down. You know, they're like, no, I don't. What do you mean? It's just it's just a cartoon. It's it's this it's this it's this. And it's like it. People get so defensive and so deflective and kind of refuse to examine, like, why am I dehumanizing?
Starting point is 00:51:21 Like, why am I so OK dehumanizing someone in this hyper sexual way and also refusing to acknowledge that that could possibly influence the way they view real people? Like, it's just. Yeah. Yeah. When you talk about, like, Asian women, like it's a sports car. Oh, dude. Oh, she's bad. I would hear that shit all the time.
Starting point is 00:51:43 Oh, you must kill it with asian chicks huh like from white guys oh you could kill dude i thought i only fuck asian women but i was like yo get the fuck this shit is so common and men are so free to say shit like that to each other at the time i was not equipped to say like yo shut the what the fuck are you saying to me right now i was younger and i was just as toxic and i was just more like uncomfortable and be like nah not really thank you get the fuck away but like it's a very common just trope that you encounter and yeah this is another thing for people to bring into their awareness just in general around everything whether or not you want to call it it's a hate crime and whether it's about the as Asian people specifically or women specifically or sex workers specific, whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:52:28 And I keep saying this. There is it's fueled by hatred. So to try and like put it in one bucket, white supremacy or not, I think is so disingenuous and it's such a disservice to these victims because it completely doesn't allow for us to have a full reckoning with it. If we ever will. All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks.
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Starting point is 00:57:08 Yeah. I mean, it's the VP, you know, Harris and first... Wait, what's Doug called? Doug, the husband? First gentleman. First gentleman. First gentleman. Or no, but their second gentleman right second what do you call
Starting point is 00:57:27 do they call that do they call like barbara bush second lady in the in the 80s well no you're the first lady if you're the spouse of the president second gentle he's the second gentleman of the united states second wow that's wild i never even the United States. Second. Wow. That's wild. I never even. The first being George Washington. But like, yeah, they don't live at the Naval Observatory, which is like the traditional vice presidential residence because it's they're they're doing renovations or whatever repairs or something. So they were not there, but they clocked this guy out there being suspicious. There was like a police bulletin about this guy who had traveled from texas all the way to dc they arrested him and then they found ar-15 high
Starting point is 00:58:10 capacity magazines a lot of ammunition i wonder why probably not white supremacy or misogyny yeah okay cool this one i mean like that's really the story but like you know it's it's like everywhere you know what i mean like it's fucking it's it's nonstop. And there's even even unrelated to this. You look into the Derek Chauvin trial. They're trying to put like introduce George Floyd's arrest record as a way to like justify his. It's so fucked up. But again, this is why it's a full court press against a system like this constantly. there's been a uptick in covid cases uh speaking of minnesota minnesota's has seen the biggest uptick it's a lot of uh states across the north uh also louisiana um and they're tying it to kind of people relaxing and guidelines relaxing texas hasn't seen the uptick quite yet but you know right god that's so terrifying yeah it's i don't i don't even know i mean i feel like every single day we're kind of having to like readjust like oh how how do i feel about prospects for the future today and like you know i don't know the the way that some people are
Starting point is 00:59:20 going about risk assessment in the past couple of weeks makes me very nervous yeah yeah i mean i think it's the most dangerous time you know because people like are people know people that are vaccinated so that's thing it's like oh well they're good they're safe oh like the the the ripple effect of safety is like around me it's like no no please not yet it's now is not the fucking time i've also been hearing certain, you've been seeing a lot of one year of COVID posts as if a fucking plague observes our calendar. Like, oh, it's been a year.
Starting point is 00:59:55 So I guess, what a wild year. And that's not, no, no. We had a one year bug. Yeah, no. We had a one year bug as a. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like I found those to be really, really bizarre. And also like, oh, well, I got vaccinated, so I don't need to wear a mask anymore.
Starting point is 01:00:15 It's like read like a paragraph. Read a sentence. Read one sentence past. So you've been vaccinated. Right. Yep. I have. Yep.
Starting point is 01:00:24 I haven't hold on um but yeah i mean we've seen you know waves like third waves i guess hit pretty hard in europe paris had a lockdown over the weekend uh and they also think that's due to early loosening people just generally feeling like the pandemic is over and acting that way let's move on to autism speaks uh like we like we mentioned their their ads have been appearing on our show uh and they are somewhere between a group that we don't agree with and a hate group they're uh yeah they've most recently been in the news for being the primary research partner for sia's music which is a movie uh about a character
Starting point is 01:01:15 uh an autistic character that is anybody uh who watches it says it's offensive. Autistic people say it's traumatic just in terms of the strobing lights, the caricatures of autistic characters performed by actors who aren't autistic. It also includes the use of frontal restraint to calm a character, which is a banned practice that has led to 20 deaths but just in doing a little bit of research on autism speaks seems like it's a group run by non-autistic people trying to address autism like it's a problem in a way like it's a like a fatal illness right in a way that's extremely dehumanizing i mean and and it's it's basically like the objective is to like quote unquote cure um yes right in the same way
Starting point is 01:02:13 that you would think of like my my perspective is like it in the same way you would think of like a like a gay conversion camp that is kind of what autism speaks is trying to do for um for people who are autistic and it's just incredibly disingenuous and dangerous they compare three million u.s autistic children to three million missing children they're like if the if the children were missing we would the military would get involved yeah i mean my godson is autistic and he is i understand like the evolution of you're having a child and then if you're not prepared for you're you're not really familiar with any kind of neurodiversity you hear this and you're like that's different therefore i'm my first instinct is to be like but he's the most sensitive intelligent child that like there's no way you could you could look at your child and be like, I feel different.
Starting point is 01:03:10 I think this child is lost. I have like I have lost something. And the reason like it's so insidious, this whole campaign is because like we're trying to enter an era where there's an acceptance about like the concept of neurodiversity like it's not it's not a ill like a death sentence or affliction that autism or other neurocognitive disabilities are just more like they're differences right they're just differences they represent the diversity um rather than like you know when like parent what the parents go through. It's such a really, really awful, awful take on it. And on top of it, they lobby like actively to prevent autistic adults from having any hand in legislation that would affect their day to day lives like they're completely on
Starting point is 01:03:58 the wrong side of fucking everything. Yeah, it's completely disempowering. It's like predatory towards parents that are trying to figure out how to like if you find out your child is autistic, this is like one of the first groups that will come up in this really predatory way. And like the way that they frame it there. I remember because there was a huge controversy of Sesame Street being allied with Autism Speaks a couple of years ago and they ended up cutting it off. But what they were doing was pushing this thing called the 100 day kit for parents who have learned that their children are autistic. That literally encourages you to frame it as if you have a child who has died.
Starting point is 01:04:45 encourages you to frame it as if you have a child who has died right um and like going through the stages of grief instead of you know actively accepting your child and learning you know just like learning about neurodiversity instead of rejecting it and and grieving it's just yeah yes yeah it seems like it has more to do with parents who had an idea of what their relationship with their child was going to be. Right. Like mourning that preconceived idea. I think the Washington Post from a mother of an autistic child who engages in more humane treatments and philosophies around parenting an autistic child. And she is like, Autism Speaks made this list of like, here's what life is like for a parent of an autistic child. On bad days, they're depleted mentally physically maybe they've been up all night caring for their teenage child up yet again changing the sheets because they've had
Starting point is 01:05:51 another bedwetting thing like she's like as a family we have experienced almost everything on this list some with our autistic son some with our other sons autism speaks claims that this is autism but to us that's just parenting that's uh yeah so it's like well yeah because it started by like the grandparents of an autistic child and like it feels like some closed-minded grandparents started this advocacy group because they thought their their family was going to look and be a certain way and when it wasn't it was so traumatic that they're like they died yeah like and how fucked up is that to be the grandchild to know that that's the perspective of your grandparents on who you are as a person like that you're lost that you are somehow not who you are like it's it's like they can't even
Starting point is 01:06:44 look at it from that perspective and be like yeah maybe this whole angle is fucked up but there it is yeah i mean it's so binary if like there is only one acceptable way to be right and it is the sort of group that no matter how much evidence that this is a clearly very harmful group they're never going to shut down because they get so much money and they're the first google result and they've gotten results that have actually pushed treating neurodivergency with respect and with humanity like backwards it's so fucked yeah it's like it's like having like a like a anti-racism group that's like, oh, my God, these people are black.
Starting point is 01:07:26 Y'all. Yeah, they're black. They are black. Can you believe it? Can you believe they are black? The hand they were dealt. We have to help them. Maybe there will be a cure for blackness. Forget who they are as people. Right. From our perspective and the hegemonic place i hold in this society i see oh my i couldn't they tried to have a autistic board member uh the author john elder robinson uh but he resigned due to their othering of people with autism. And so they're, once again, just like grandparents and parents of autistic people. And it's like, well, you know,
Starting point is 01:08:10 if people who are autistic refuse to be allied with this group in any way, like, that's all you need to fucking know. Right, yes. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. All right, let's talk real quick about the right-wing media freakout of the day. There is a storyline in one of the new issues of Captain America in which Steve Rogers and his friends have to track down Captain America's shield.
Starting point is 01:08:49 And they discover everyday people from all walks of life who've taken up the mantle of Captain America to defend their communities. One of them is Aaron Fisher, who is openly gay and the first LGBTQ character to pick up Cap's shield in the comics' 80-year history. And that is what is causing a meltdown. I remember I saw a tweet from an activist who was like, wow, LGBT and Q? Very busy. Yeah, I mean, it's absurd. So what is it? What's next?
Starting point is 01:09:21 Well, so they have taken that. Okay, yeah. What is it? Well, so they have taken that because that storyline has a they it's they've had to take that out of context to get themselves mad and said that Captain America is gay now. What's next? So that's that's what they're mad about. Oh, God. Yeah. I mean, because these conservatives have completely lost whatever they thought, like the idea of America was or what made it great. Because on one level, they're always like,
Starting point is 01:09:47 America protects the weak. We shield the weak from aggressors. And it's like, oh, great. So this person sounds like an activist who's standing up for people and protecting much in the spirit of this America. Does he have nose rings? Yeah, he's got nose rings.
Starting point is 01:10:02 Oh, that is pertinent detail. So did Ivanka. Oh. No, I don't know. I was like, you got my ass. What if? You know Don, he'd be like, get that shit off your face. Actually, no, he wouldn't. He'd be like, I like it too. He'd be like, wow. Hey, I just got one too,
Starting point is 01:10:19 Ivanka, look, look. We're cool, right? Oh, it's too high? But it's, I mean, this harkens back to the 1950s comics code authority who like had to put their stamp of approval on the cover of comics to get comic book stores to sell them because there was like a creepy psychiatrist who like made a big stink about the immorality of comic books uh you know in a very much what's next you're gonna world's ills can be traced back to a creepy psychologist right it's so many what a world but the thing is it's funny is like that was we're being fucked over because there was an era in which some asshole was just confident enough to spute some nonsense as being the absolute truth.
Starting point is 01:11:08 And we didn't have enough information at our disposal. We're like, I mean, he's loud about it. Right. Whereas now you can't even say a vaccine is safe. And suddenly everyone, what the fuck are you talking about? Like completely different eras. And now we're taking this like really weird blind trust of the loudest asshole into the room, into like our modern world.
Starting point is 01:11:27 And we're like, wait, what the fuck was what? Yeah. Yeah. And also Captain America has traditionally been like boundary pushing. The comic had the first openly gay character in mainstream comic books in the eighties,
Starting point is 01:11:42 which the fact that it was in the 80s is shocking and probably a testament to that code but uh it's just a not their best work in terms of moral panics i guess this uh if you have time to be mad about this right now like get read a book like get a fucking grip on on your life if you have time to be mad about captain america right now yeah right i'm just thinking of like this newsmax asshole who you can tell his brain has been completely taken over by toxic masculinity like his brain isn't even if you open up his brain it's just like a football connected to a barbell or some shit and it's he's like he's saying the country's going bananas he is a gay captain america complete with a nose
Starting point is 01:12:31 ring tats when he takes off his skull cap there's he's got like a mohawk thing he's not very muscular what does this world come to he's not he critiqued his physique it's a fucking drawing sir it's sir it is a cartoon he's not muscular but that shows you you know what i mean like if when you look at that and you're you're you got a it's a five alarm fire in your mind i don't even know what to tell like i always when i think of newsmax i truly do just think of a 14-year-old named Max sitting in his room on Twitch. I wish. I know. He's so fucking mad.
Starting point is 01:13:11 That would have been the best response from the John Krasinski thing, a Newsmax type thing. It's like, hi, this is Newsmax. I'm Max. I'm Max, and I have a few terrible ideas. Yeah. That I will apply to literally everything i almost successfully wiped the john krasinski youtube show from my mind and now it's like the game i still think about it i love you lose the game every time you remember john krasinski's shitty million dollar youtube show did you wipe it from your mind so you could be excited and surprised when the television version comes out in a couple of months?
Starting point is 01:13:48 I did an Eternal Sunshine style procedure to forget about the John Krasinski YouTube. So I could fall in love all over again. Yeah, I kind of went to a dodgy Groupon place to get it. Jamie, as always, such a pleasure having you. Where can people find you and follow you and hear you i will you can find me in all the usual places you can find me on twitter at jamie loftus help instagram jamie christ superstar we just released a bechtel cost episode about both stepford wives this week that i'm very excited about and yeah yeah, that's where you can find me.
Starting point is 01:14:26 Yeah. And check out Lolita Podcast and My Ear and Mensa. Yeah. Classic. Classic podcast. Back to back bangers. Bangers. They're going to be playing those on classic podcast radio.
Starting point is 01:14:41 They're going to be playing them at the club. Dude, I heard Miley Cyrus is putting out bangers, but when you play it, it's just My Year in Mensa and Lillian Podcast. Yeah, people are starting to sample my podcast and music. It's really flattering. It's an honor. The Run the Jewels remix is
Starting point is 01:14:58 sick as fuck, though. Thank you so much. I was thrilled with how it turned out. LP did that. Is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying uh yeah i i have a a few tweets i want to encourage people to a great resource i've been learning from and donating to in the past day has been red canary song which is a grassroots collective of asian migrant sex workers who are based in New York, but they organize transnationally.
Starting point is 01:15:29 And there's a lot of great resources on their website. And also it's a great place to give some money to if you have some extra money. And the tweet I will shout out is just good old fashioned fun because I still don't understand what an NFT is. And it's from Phoebe Bridgers. She said, pee after sex or you will get an NFT. Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Find me Twitter, Instagram, PlayStation Network, Miles of Grey.
Starting point is 01:15:59 Also the other podcast, 420 Day, Fiance, where we're talking 90 Day. And some tweets that I like. WSMoron at WS underscore moron. Dudes will read Malcolm Gladwell, but won't make their gal come mad well. Like, bro, you're worried about the wrong tipping point. End my life. Oh, my God. This one is from Summer summer at he burled uh and it says i'm so stressed out from running my pet
Starting point is 01:16:31 lizard's instagram account and it's this video it just looks like this grainy vhs video of this person lamenting so stressed out about a an inf lizard influencer account i'm just gonna play a snippet of it but you'll have to watch the whole video because it's a great monologue. I'm so fucking stressed out from running my pet lizard's Instagram account. I'm about to have a nervous breakdown. I told my therapist,
Starting point is 01:16:56 she said, well, take a break from your pet lizard's Instagram account. I said, I can't! It's my sole source of income! It goes on for a minute and 10 seconds wait is this a character or yeah yeah it's it's definitely oh okay i was like god this is so i think it is it definitely has the vibe of like a good comedy video yeah there's the dramatic and then last one from malls at molly d's since you know we've got the great yammy lofty
Starting point is 01:17:26 the great dunkin donuts uh advocate here uh malls has a screenshot she just says this is fine i love online dating and you know like on the dating apps there's like one question says i get along best with people who and this person is just a screencap where this person wrote i love dunking donuts on crezant holy shit um couple tweets I've been enjoying Carter Hambly tweeted Larry King just respawned in my garage and Yedoye tweeted
Starting point is 01:18:21 no more pandemic puns please I can't listen to one more person call it panorama or panini or pangolin. It's boring, please. I like any plea that ends with it's boring, please. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website
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Starting point is 01:19:03 as well as a song that we recommend you go check out now. Miles, what song are we recommending today? I mean, I think just because we've got scat on the mind, I think we should just talk, probably go out on one of the greatest scat soloists in jazz history. No, not Sarah Vaughan. No, not Ella Fitzgerald. No. Oh, we're going to try.
Starting point is 01:19:29 Okay. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, just a snippet. Because if you don't know it, I'm going to just give you a little bit so you go find the video. Well, he bit all the he-dogs and winked at all the she-dogs. The town never knew such a hullabaloo as that little dog raised till the end of that day. Yeah, consider this an appetizer, but you really need to see the whole thing, the whole interview, if possible.
Starting point is 01:19:56 Just a look on her husband's face when he's playing the bass. I forgot, I did want to plug an indie movie that came out this week called The Snyder Cut thank you forgot to mention plug it for my guy go check that out
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