The Daily Zeitgeist - Bad New Taylor Swift & Awesome Old War Stories 11.10.17

Episode Date: November 11, 2017

In episode 26, Jack & Miles are joined for the third time by comedian Jamie Loftus to discuss sex crimes, Louis CK's statements, Alabama judge Roy Moore, Veteran Day heroes, Taylor Swift's new alb...um, & the weekly tabloid round up. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:02 Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 5, Episode 5 of the Daily Zeitgeist for November... Let's call it November 10th, 2017. My name's Jack O'Brien, aka Potatoes O'Brien, and I'm joined by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. What's up? It's the artist formerly known as Ya Boy Kusama. Ya boy! It's the artist formerly known as Ya Boy Kusama. Ya Boy!
Starting point is 00:02:30 And we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat for her third appearance on the Daily Zeitgeist, our first three-peat. She is a hilarious stand-up and the host of one of my favorite podcasts, the Bechdel Cast. Please welcome Jamie Loftus. Hey! I feel like I say, please welcome like we're at a live show and the crowd is gonna like but we're in a room just looking at each other yeah i'm just looking at you the whole time and i'm like i've been here for two hours we should do a thing just someone has to
Starting point is 00:02:56 they have to keep their head down until they're introduced right so it feels like that's always great at the beginning of a podcast where it's like you don't really make eye contact with your guest for the first like minute. And then you're just like, I know you're here, but I can't look at you. Yeah, that is. I guess that's our way of making it still visual in our minds. I do that every single time. I just like act like the person I've been talking to for an hour doesn't exist.
Starting point is 00:03:18 And then I'm like, oh, hey, how are you? Oh, hey, look at you. No, I'm just bad at eye contact. I can't really. I just tried making eye contact with Miles, and it totally fucked my... It didn't go well. It's because he just got hit with a cease and desist from Pat Riley for saying three-peat on the air.
Starting point is 00:03:36 Exactly. Jamie, what's something you've searched in the past couple days that is revealing about who you are as a human being for our guests? Ooh, I have done a deep dive on the yule log the yule log yes i know everything there is to know about the yule log there's not that much to know but there is some yule log drama that's gone on over the years yule log is the video of the log that's burning just a burning fireplace for people with no fireplace for for yeah for people who like live
Starting point is 00:04:06 in apartments and shit and uh it started in new york in i think 1966 there's a lot of like back and forth about like should we keep broadcasting the yule log should we not keep broadcasting the yule log what's the copyright rules on a picture of a log burning and uh and and now everyone has their own version of the yule log but my the one i'd recommend is the one uh of nick offerman drinking whiskey in front of a yule log for 10 hours that's a great one the the current but i've uh i've watched them all i've vetted them all have you seen the 4k one on netflix i have yeah i use that one that's a pretty good one you know it's crazy that you say that because I fuck with the Yule Log.
Starting point is 00:04:45 You're a Yule Log fan? Oh, my God. Let me tell you, I'm a pyromaniac by trade. Little known fact. And some would say I'm an amateur arsonist. Oh, you dabble? Yeah, I dabble. The police would say that.
Starting point is 00:04:57 I'm an aspiring arsonist. No, but I always loved fireplaces. And then when I moved to L.A., there aren't many places that actually have fireplaces so like when you turn the heat up and have the yule log on it just feels cozy and like in 4k it's like it's next level but now i got a fireplace so if you want the real thing come through dude i gotta i gotta really like i got really into it and then i like wrote up a bunch of and now i'm gonna make my own yule log this year oh dope i'm gonna do it yeah like a marathon video yeah yeah yeah i'm gonna like make a'm going to try to make a narrative Yule log. Does he just drink whiskey in silence for 10 hours?
Starting point is 00:05:30 Yeah, yeah. And they must have found the perfect looping point because it's a 10-hour video. Wow. Yeah, it's great. What's something you believe to be overrated? I mean, I went to Del Taco again. You say that like you're an addict. No. I went to del taco again you say that like you're an addict no i went to no for like the third time i've lived here for two years i went to del taco for like the third time i keep giving del taco uh another chance but it's just not as good as talk like i live close to a del
Starting point is 00:05:59 taco it makes more sense for me to go to a del Taco. But then I always end up, my new thing is I order delivery from Taco Bell, which is like, who are you, Princess Di? Like, why do you order delivery from Taco Bell? And the delivery person is always very pissed off about it, which is totally fair. That is a straight up Princess Di move. Bring me my chalupa. Princess Di-aria. Woo! Work play.
Starting point is 00:06:28 Mr. Comedy. I'll leave. I'll leave. Call me Mr. Comedy. So I think that going to Del Taco just because it's closer, overrated. Wait, what do you get there? Delivered. What do you get at Del Taco?
Starting point is 00:06:42 Del Taco. I mean, I get the cheapest garbage available from both places. I got the half pound, and I would put that in quotations, the half pound bean and rice burrito from Del Taco. And also the tiniest little shake I've ever had, which is really cute. And then I got French fries from Del Taco, which you got to hand it to them. They do have French fries. They got the fries.
Starting point is 00:07:06 And they're pretty good. Hey, another tip, go bold. That's where you put the fries in your burrito. Whoa. Is that like secret menu shit? A little off the menu shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The first time I tried to order it,
Starting point is 00:07:16 I messed up at the drive-thru. I was like, I thought it was called Go Extreme. And I was like, yeah, let me go extreme. And the guy in the drive-thru was like, what? And I got so nervous because I don't, you know, just like human nature, you don't want to seem stupid. So I was just like, nothing, just regular. Yeah. As a person, I lack the confidence to order off the secret menu.
Starting point is 00:07:36 It's a risk. It's a risk, baby. Yeah, because again, that reaction, huh, shook me to my fucking core and I just abandoned my plan. You're like, never again. The other thing that I would say is extremely overrated is Trivia Night. Yeah. I gave Trivia Night. Trivia Night is for losers with no personality.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Wow. I accidentally found myself at a Geeks Who Drink night. I thought I was just enjoying time with my friends and then suddenly kamikazed by all these losers bringing in their pizza having these stupid team names called like oh we're the we're the trivia butts and we know what year a gorillas album came out and i'm like get the fuck out like i was just this bar was fun 20 minutes ago and there's and then there's an australian lady she's asking questions and it's just like and they're they're like you have to draw something i was like i need to i had to get out of here oh so it was more that like the trivia night just invaded your normal bar time and
Starting point is 00:08:32 you're like what the fuck's going on or you participated i ended up participating and i ended up getting swept up in a trivia and i got really into it and then i sucked at it and then i left yeah okay well work on your trivia game yeah uh also trivia night is yeah i agree trivia night to me feels like uh loud music at a bar where it's just like so you guys don't like talking when like the right the whole reason that i would drink is because it's like the one time i like to talk to other people right when while drinking and also yeah they like play a game to sort of mediate that i'll say that the good thing about trivia night is like the friend that you're
Starting point is 00:09:10 with who thinks that they're way fucking smarter than everyone always gets put to shame yeah at trivia night because i'm like oh you actually don't know shit it's the dumb guy the dumb guy knows when every gorillas album came out what do you know this was a very specific just gorillas themed trivia night there was a i was hanging with my college friends which is like also a mistake also overrated what's something that's underrated something that's underrated oh something that's underrated okay so i uh i fell into this wormhole uh recently uh about how the uh old ho Hedy Lamarr invented Wi-Fi. Yes, she did.
Starting point is 00:09:47 So underrated Hedy Lamarr. Yeah. Yeah. She was like this. First of all, I don't know who Hedy Lamarr is, so sorry. Apologies on that. Who is she in? Who's a pick?
Starting point is 00:09:55 Oh, my God. She's like, okay. She's in a lot of famous World War II era movies. Yes, yes. The Golden Age. But she literally dabbled in inventing on the side and made some, like basically a primitive version of Wi-Fi. And people just started talking about it a couple of years ago.
Starting point is 00:10:12 And there was like a great feature written on it in PRI that I read recently that's just like, holy shit, she invented Wi-Fi. Just like Errol Morris's brother invented email. Wow. That's crazy. So shout out to the golden age of Hollywood. Yeah. For without which we would have no Wi-Fi.
Starting point is 00:10:28 Yeah. Exactly. It's not like Jennifer Aniston invented the fidget spinner. Yeah. She may have. I'm very here for that rumor. Right. We should start that here.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Do you guys know that Jennifer Aniston invented the fidget spinner? No way. True story. I knew she was involved with the team that did the fidget spinner? No way. True story. I knew she was involved with the team that did the fidget cube, but I wasn't aware that she did the spinner. Yeah, it was an early – yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, we're going to get into format. We're trying to take a sample of the ideas that are out there changing the world. Whether you're looking or not, there's this big tangle of ideas and assumptions and beliefs out there that kind of make up our conventional wisdom.
Starting point is 00:11:04 And conventional wisdom and conventional wisdom has sort of a gravitational pull on our day to day lives. We talk about politics, the president, news, but we also talk about movies and supermarket tabloids, which we're going to be taking a look at today. But before we get into some news stories, we like to ask our guests to debunk something, disabuse our audience of some notion that they have based on like movie or media. Disabuse is a good vocab word. Thank you. I haven't heard that word in a long time. Maybe since the SATs. Okay, so I have a very topical myth I'd like to discuss and debunk today,
Starting point is 00:11:46 which is a lot of stuff that you'll hear, you know, people sliding into the mentions defending their heroes when they're outed as sex crims, et cetera. And for the unlearned, a sex crim is a? A sex criminal, which is also my favorite comic book. Anyways. Sex crims, et cetera. Sex crims, et cetera, sex, crims, et cetera. That's LLC is my company.
Starting point is 00:12:17 But but a lot of like what people are hearing who don't want to believe stuff that's coming out is that, you know, it's like, well, this is just accusations. It's just speculation. And news outlets can basically report anything or they can report speculation. And that, in my experience as a writer and a journalist, has been the opposite of true, where you have to have so, so, so, so much and jump through so many hoops where stuff with like the Louis C.K. story, so, so, so much and jump through so many hoops where stuff with like the Louis C.K. story, it's like a miracle that it came out and it took years and years to amass enough evidence for it to be reported in The New York Times. So that for me is like super frustrating to hear and doesn't track because there are writers who have been trying to bust the story open for years. And we were talking about Megan Keister has been trying to do it forever.
Starting point is 00:13:05 I was and the news standards are so strict in getting stories like this out that there's a lot of stories that won't be reported or will take a lot longer to be reported. In my experience, I was trying to break a story on a man in power in this area and, you know, had everything set up, had worked with fact checkers, had worked with a source, had worked with all this stuff. And then it still couldn't go to press, basically. Did the source back out? The source backed out out of, you know, anxiety and totally understand. And, you know, sources have to do this on their own timeline, but it's, it's really hard to, to move forward with a story. And I have a writer
Starting point is 00:13:52 colleague who was trying to break a similar story, but the, the new source she was working with wouldn't report it before she had three different sources, uh, who would say that this man had sexually harassed them and she had two sources and so sometimes it reaches the point where it's like oh so are we waiting for this person to strike again right before we can report this like that's so like weird and insidious that you know uh everyone involved when you're reporting a story like this is taking a risk of sorts and is. And so the argument that it's like, oh, it's just speculation. We don't know. You can write anything in there.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Right. Like, is that so not the case? I mean, it's because these huge corporations like take a risk. They can be sued and their legal departments. They can be sued and their legal departments. The only thing that their job is responsible to is to their board members and to their shareholders. Right. And make sure there's no kind of legal. You don't like cost us millions and millions of dollars. So, yeah, that's when I worked at ABC News, we had this big story, like a lot of the stuff that people are still reporting about Trump.
Starting point is 00:15:05 We had this big story done by the investigative journalism team that was like all about all these weird financial improprieties and that he like wasn't worth as much money as they thought. But then Donald Trump just started calling and calling and calling and threatening to sue until the legal team was just like, yeah, you can't like say basically any of the important stuff. And it was like this weird defanged like piece of shit story by the end of it. And yeah, like that's good. And the legal departments are so intense, too, that I think that like with the story I was working on, the legal department sort of ended up scaring my source out of wanting to report the story because there are so many like they're doing their due diligence to an extent of being like, OK, you know, everything is fact checked. But here are the possible repercussions and this and this and this and this. By the time it gets reported by the New York Times, you know, there's like very little that I wouldn't believe, especially in regards to a story like this because it's so fucking vetted.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Right. Yeah, the Ronan Farrow Weinstein story was like thrown out. He was a full-time NBC employee and then NBC like said no to reporting this story that he had been building for, like, a year. So, yeah, you can only imagine that the fear of these people when you have companies like Black Cube working for these predators and trying to intimidate people. Yeah, we talked about Black Cube earlier this week for new listeners. a sort of private investigator firm that like has Mossad agents and like former intelligence officials that were working for Harvey Weinstein, you know, investigating Rose McGowan and like again and other people who were accusing him. Yeah, it's crazy shit. While we're on the subject, we might as well do our daily sex crim roundup. We might as well do our daily sex crim roundup. So, Louis C.K., we talked about yesterday and I think we talked about actually the last time you were on, Jamie.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Because we're talking about Woody Allen. Yeah, we were talking about you guys have just done Manhattan and he has like a ode to Manhattan, a movie called I Love You, Daddy. The world may never see. Yeah, it might become like that Jerry Lewis Holocaust comedy that like he ended up taking off the market because, yeah, the I guess it's now no longer being released, even though they paid millions of dollars for it at a film festival. So Louis C.K. was openly finally accused of sexual misconduct on various sets yesterday by five different women. Probably the creepiest detail of it, Like all of it was creepy. He likes to masturbate in front of women who don't want to be masturbated in front of.
Starting point is 00:18:11 And at one point he apologized to one of the women for pushing her into a dressing room and masturbating in front of her. And she was like, I wasn't me. Didn't. That wasn't me. So that was there's probably other. Yeah, there's probably other things out there. Yeah, there's probably.
Starting point is 00:18:26 This has probably been. And, I mean, based on, like, I had heard of it, and I think a lot of people in the industry had heard of it. Well, this was first reported by Gawker in 2012. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Anyways, he has come out and said these things these women said are true. And Jamie, as you put it, he kind of gave like a reverse Oscar acceptance speech where he like apologized to like his family, to his agent, to his manager.
Starting point is 00:18:57 To the cast and crew of I Love You, Daddy. Right. Jesus fucking Christ. The biggest thing missing from all of this are the words maybe like, sorry, or like, I apologize. I mean, it's definitely like he's remorseful and things like that. But it's a very, I mean, one of the weirdest things is that like he's actually just saying, I never showed a woman my dick without asking first. Yeah. Which is also true.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Super cash reference to your dick. Yeah. Like an apology for sexual misconduct. I think you need to handle this a little bit more delicately, Mr. CK. The way that this feels, I mean, it seems like kind of just like that is the way that Louis C.K. would make this apology. But that doesn't, like, he needs to, like, take a look at himself and apologize in a way that is not how a stand up comedian would apologize for whipping his dick out. Right. It read like a Louis C.K. like in the voice of Louis C.K.
Starting point is 00:19:53 Like a Louis episode. Yeah. But yeah. So it starts out in his voice sort of talking about what happened. sort of talking about what happened uh but then like he goes into it's almost like he just does an adequate job technically explaining the power dynamics at play but it's like why what yeah we get it we got it when we read the article these women understood what was happening and like what you didn't get about the situation but uh yeah it seems like he lays everything out uh and then rather than apologizing really just like kind of says i'm gonna take a step back and think about things so
Starting point is 00:20:34 yeah it's just yeah again apologizing to all the things that are in production and then like companies that are paying your bills is like that's a separate that's a private yeah you don't need to like what the fuck are you doing man this is not about fx or you know and that is the bulk of the apology too uh it's a pretty it's a pretty lengthy paragraph yeah yeah and that's he is actively fucking people over who who work for him and with him that's like not even an invalid thought but that's not a part of yeah the people that are most directly affected you could also just reach out directly to them in private. It doesn't have to be a public apology to them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:10 So we so sorry, guys, we've got a lot of sex crims to get to. Judge Roy Moore. Apparently the polls are tightening in Alabama. So he is losing ground, even though. In Alabama. So he is losing ground, even though. So for people who haven't heard Judge Roy Moore, who is the Republican candidate in Alabama to take over the seat that was vacated by Jefferson Beauregard Sessions when he took over as the attorney general is. So there's actually a race like nobody expected there to be a race. But because of, you know, the way things are going in the country, Democrat was like within eight points of him. And then it came out yesterday that he had. They're leveling up.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Yeah, close to neck and neck now. And it came out yesterday that he had attempted to have like sexual relationships with a 14 year old girl and other teenage girls when he was 32. Some of the excuses that have come out. Marion County Chairman David Hall has said, I really don't see the relevance of it. He was 32. She was supposedly 14. She's not saying anything happened other than they kissed. And if they did just kiss, that's just a weird defense, seeing as the main problem is he's 32. She's 14. You're not supposed to kiss 14 year olds when you're 32. Like, just go read the actual details because it's way, way worse than that. He took her to his house and, like, they disrobed and stuff.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Yeah, it was very disturbing. She's a 14-year-old and he, like, yeah, they took their clothes off. The other one was the Alabama State Auditor was trying to compare, like, the relationship of Mary and Joseph. Right. Like, to this. I mean, again, this is how fucking depraved and how low the GOP has gone, which is like trying to figure out like logical, rational defenses against someone who is accused of like statutory rape. Yeah. I mean, and that's very specific members of the GOP.
Starting point is 00:23:19 But yeah, that's that's problematic. I think there are other people who are like, you know, he needs to step out. I mean, John McCain is one who is unequivocally said this is disqualifying. But he's in a minority, which I think is a little – was what should be – people need to really kind of think about. Right. email to his followers being like, look, the devil is trying to get to me and like, knock me out of this race, like, give me funding so that we can like, continue to fight the good fight. So yeah, it's just worth keeping an eye on.
Starting point is 00:23:56 But it's not a thing where he's coming out and saying, yeah, I'm sorry, I'm gonna take some time to think about. He literally blamed like the forces of evil. Right. And it's great because it's like if he loses, that really does make it more likely that the Democrats can like win. Well, I mean, 2018, I mean, like him losing would be him losing would be a really it would change the Senate math. Yeah. Pretty significantly to have another another seat go blue.
Starting point is 00:24:23 But yeah, that's and i'm sure that's one of the reasons why there are people like mitch mcconnell who really don't want roy moore they're not i don't even sure if it's because he's problematic but more so because he's worried about the vote math in the senate right and just like well we need like we need a republican that can win um so right and i'm not sure like if they can just swap somebody in at this point uh he would have to he would have to like do another runoff election or i think he would have to And I'm not sure, like, if they can just swap somebody in at this point. He would have to. He would have to, like, do another runoff election.
Starting point is 00:24:51 I think he would have to withdraw and then the party could put someone. But it would take him to step down, which is why some people are saying maybe they can get Luther Strange to be a write in candidate. Right. This is all very. Well, there are like rules about how far in advance of a race you have to drop out. Like I was reading it was 76 days, which is like way past because it's like less than a month. Yeah, it's in December. But there's also been like past examples of that sort of being overruled by the Supreme Court. It all sort of just depends in whose favor they're tilted at the time.
Starting point is 00:25:23 So, yeah. All right. We have other sex crims to talk about, but we're running at the time. Yeah. All right. We have other sex crims to talk about, but we're running out of time. Johnny Depp, it's worth remembering, has a movie coming out today, and he beat up his girlfriend last year. So keep an eye out for that, folks.
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Starting point is 00:30:05 Okay, moving on. Big fan of Big Harv, right? Yeah. I mean, I'm pro-Harv, and that was the end of the fight. Okay. Moving on. But on Graham Norton, it's just like another double standard-y moment where there's an episode of Graham Norton recently where he's denouncing Harvey Weinstein, which is like, yeah, duh. It's not a hot take by any means. And then his guest or one of his guests was Johnny Depp and the cast of The Murderer on the Orient Express. Hey, we're just acting like he didn't hit his wife on tape. Totally cool. Great.
Starting point is 00:30:32 Great. Great. Yeah. As long as he wears like a silly fake mustache, it's easy to ignore that. It's him. I think. Hey, you guys, it's Veterans Day. Tomorrow will be Veterans Day tomorrow.
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Starting point is 00:31:11 Just do a quick rundown of some of the most badass soldiers in the history of war and also some badass veterans who have brought to us great things. So I want to talk about the Finnish sniper known as the White Death. This is not a comic book character? No, this is not a comic book character real dude a farmer in like finland he went off into the woods with his hunting rifle and ended up killing 500 uh russians just by himself they ended up winning the war despite being so outnumbered uh and he was just this like legend slash ghost story that the russians talked about he would uh put snow in his mouth uh i think i've seen this in a movie but he would put snow in his
Starting point is 00:31:51 mouth when he was shooting so they couldn't see the like hot like the heat of his breath like the fog of his breath um are you sure he's on a con yeah? Yeah, I know. It's pretty badass. And he would put a glove under his rifle, between the rifle and the ground, so to dampen the jolt of the weapon. And doing that, he killed, like, everyone. What'd they call him again? Snowboy? White Death. Snowboy. Snowboy's pretty cool, too.
Starting point is 00:32:45 Then during World War Two, moving over to the Russian side during World War Two, we have a, when they got into dogfights in the air with actual German, like, fighter planes, they would actually do okay because the planes were, like, when they were going at full speed, planes couldn't even go, like, nearly as slow as them. So they could, like, sort of dive and go like nearly as slow as them. Uh, so they could like sort of dive and like turn on a dime. Uh, but their main thing was bombing. They would like turn off their engine and just glide over camps and then drop bombs on the camps. And because of the sort of soft whooshing noises that they made, uh, the Germans thought they were witches flying on their brooms. But they didn't think that, right?
Starting point is 00:33:30 Yeah, they thought they were. They actually thought witches were bombing? Yeah. No, of course not. I don't know. I mean, you never know back then. Right. It was like, go back like 75 years plus.
Starting point is 00:33:40 I would believe people believe literally anything. And I mean, I don't know. Like if you're hearing weird whooshing sounds in the sky and then everything around you blows up like you're going to probably it doesn't matter what you believe it is. But they were from ages 17 to 26 and they dropped 23,000 tons of bombs on invading Germany. The hot young bombers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:05 Wait, which country they fought for? Russia. Wow. And this was when Germany invaded Russia. So this was like basically the turning point of the war. Shout out to the Night Witches. That sounds terrifying, but also like what a cool name for a club. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:21 Yeah. Night Witches. Can we get those jackets made up? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's my new trivia team name. Yeah. Night Witches. Night Witches. Going to get those jackets made up? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's my new trivia team name. The Night Witches. The Night Witches.
Starting point is 00:34:28 And then on the American side, we have John York, who was just a redneck from Tennessee who went over to World War I as a conscientious objector, but eventually picked up a machine gun because his battalion got completely obliterated. Everyone besides him was shot to pieces by this battalion of 32 German machine gunners. And he picked up a machine gun and basically took out 20 of the Germans. And then five of them came around to flank him. He killed them with a Colt 45. And then the Germans were like, hey, could you stop killing us and we'll surrender? And so he walked 133
Starting point is 00:35:08 German soldiers back into his camp, like at gunpoint. Wait, solo Dolomite? Yeah. Whoa. John York from Tennessee. And then Audi Murphy is just a total badass. Another like really small guy. I guess the White Death was
Starting point is 00:35:24 a tiny man. Snowboy. Yeah. Snowboy was a tiny man. Another like really small guy. I guess the white death was a tiny man. Snowboy. Yeah. Snowboy was a tiny man. Snowmouth. So his best friend got killed in German or in Italy by a German machine gun crew. And he just like hulked out and killed everyone in the gun nest thing, used their gun to kill every Nazi soldier in a 100 yard radius, including two more machine gun nests and a bunch of snipers. Then he was given the job of defending a super important pocket in France. And all he had left at the end was 19 guys out of an original 128.
Starting point is 00:36:00 And he was 5'6". Also, he's cute. Super cute super cute ended up being a movie star yeah uh jumped behind a 50 caliber machine gun and started killing everything in sight uh but uh the machine gun was on a vehicle that was on fire and like getting ready to explode and he just didn't give a shit like gta style yeah just won the war like fight like single-handedly by just like jumping on this flaming vehicle and just taking everything out so uh he got i think i think he's one of the most decorated soldiers in the history of war yeah there's a lot of pictures of him just covered covered in various
Starting point is 00:36:41 badges right can't recommend he had like a second jacket for like the other medals. He didn't even put on the other one. Yeah, because they weighed more than he did. Dude, yeah, slide in the Google images on this guy. He's a cutie pie. A-U-D-I, Murphy. Audie Murphy. And then, Miles, you looked into some contributions from veterans
Starting point is 00:36:59 after they came home from work. Because, look, yeah, I mean, there's like a very big spirit of entrepreneurship for veterans. And we have a lot of businesses to this day that we can thank because of veterans. For example, I mean, look, let me do some of the serious ones like Remax. OK, like the real estate company that was that was founded or co-founded by an Air Force veteran. OK, pretty good. Sperry shoes, signs all over the place.
Starting point is 00:37:24 Yeah. Sperry's not just a boat signs all over the place. Yeah, Sperry's. Cool. Not just a boat shoe for frat boys in the Northeast, but again, made by a naval veteran, Paul Sperry. Okay, cool, cool. FedEx, Marine. Fred Smith founded FedEx. Sadly, Walmart, the most evil company.
Starting point is 00:37:40 Sam Walton was an Army veteran. So, I mean, look, we can, I don't know. We'll cut that one. We'll forgive you guys for that one because of some of the contributions we have coming up. Yes. And, you know, again, GoDaddy was also started by a Marine Corps veteran. And that's the contribution I'm talking about. Love those GoDaddy.
Starting point is 00:37:59 But to me, some of the best ones, the best contributions. Here we go. Mr. Glenn Bell, a Marine who fought in the Pacific Theater in World War II, founded Taco Bell. Yeah! Hell yeah! So little do you know, your Taco Bell love, that's actually a very patriotic act. That's super patriotic. So actually, if you think about it, Americans, if you're going to pick one, go with Taco Bell.
Starting point is 00:38:19 Yeah, if you want Americanized Mexican food. Yeah, to the most offensive form of Mexican food, go to Taco Bell because, hey, shout out to Glen Bell. Also, Mike Illich, founder of Little Caesars, who's done a lot of good stuff. The guy was also a Marine. So Little Caesars, we have to thank because of the Marine Corps and also Domino's Pizza. Right. And not to say-
Starting point is 00:38:38 Kind of a weird dude. Yeah. I mean, look. Weird Catholic, like super crazy. Yeah. Over thetop Catholic. But, again, to say these contributions, they, in one way or another, we have interacted with this. So, yes, thank you, everybody, for your service and also some of your contributions, especially to the fast food world.
Starting point is 00:38:56 Yeah. The Marines are badasses and you know i've had a lot of you know friends who go into the marines as total fucking messes and come out as like really polished like great human beings and like really have their shit together so uh yeah thanks everyone for your service we appreciate it and also i'm sure we're gonna get flooded with mentions of like all the other things that veterans have created look this we were doing this just sort of on the fly, so no offense to anybody out there. But please, we're happy to hear your mentions. Yeah, let me know.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Put me on the knowledge also, too. I was trying to look up some fun celebrity military ones that aren't always brought up, and the closest I found was Fred Durst dropped out of boot camp. Oh, really? Yeah. So he just kept on rolling, huh? He did.
Starting point is 00:39:43 Rolling, rolling, rolling, rolling. Hey, you guys. Taylor Swift has an album out. Speaking of Fred Durst. Smooth transition. That's a pivot. No, it's... It's big news for some people.
Starting point is 00:39:58 It is big news. There's a song about Kanye on the album. Predictably. Supposedly. She talks about someone who she was glad to be friends with, but then he tricked her, rained on her parade. There's even talk of a phone call going back to that thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Yeah. Oh. I mean, look, I don't like pop music. I don't like most music, to be honest. I'm kind of really set in my ways of what I like about music. Right. This album is super derivative. It sounds like, again, every song probably will be a hit because she is a pretty prolific songwriter.
Starting point is 00:40:35 It's based off her track record. But also, I got to say, we may have to say R.I.P. to Trap Hi-Hats because the trap sound, there's a lot of trap touches on this album. R.I.P. to trap hi-hats because the trap sound, there's a lot of trap touches on this album. If you guys aren't familiar with the trap sound, it's the 808 drum kit, a lot of snare chains, a lot of syncopated hi-hats. And you hear it a lot. I mean, it's all over pop music. And again, I don't know. Does that mean it's R.I.P.?
Starting point is 00:40:57 I don't know. But again, definitely taking from all styles of music. And the reviews are kind of very interesting. Everybody is talking about this album in a way that is so serious that it's almost confusing. It's like it's a new Beatles album. I feel like that's the seriousness it's been. Right, right, right. Yeah, it feels a little weird and uncanny valley,
Starting point is 00:41:20 the way people talk about it. And almost all, I mean, we were able to find one bad review of this album which is like a outside of the realm of like traditional like music blogs or magazines that write about music especially like you know outlets that you're like oh they would go after a pop album because they want to sound smart and too good for it right like they're i mean the new york times rolling stuff like they're they're like this is the new taylor swift is here and but it's never been more coherent or like some the way they're describing it it sounds i you would think they're talking about like a radiohead album and then it's like well these
Starting point is 00:41:55 these i guess it's complex something can be as complex as you want it to be and and look at it that way but i just feel like uh like it weird. I mean, because it's like... Oh, sorry. I like pop music, too. Like, the Lorde album is, like, one of my favorite albums of the year, and that, I felt like, deserved all the praise it got, and I, like, totally loved it. But just, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:42:17 It felt weird hearing, like, oh, we have no criticism of this kind of derivative Taylor Swift channel. I'm sure she has a very powerful PR machine. I do feel like this is like part of a like for at least the past 15 years, sort of the overall trend has been to buy in on like pop and whatever is popular and like whatever the story is that, you know, some popular person is trying to sell about themselves, like from a PR perspective, I feel like we now are more likely to buy in. And like that includes the New York Times and the Washington Post and like all those, which I feel like is fun in some instances. But I also feel like it's a little dangerous because then everything is just going with the sort of grain of straight up consumerism right when i was a kid uh we used to have a thing
Starting point is 00:43:12 called like selling out where you would like be you would wait a second explain this concept where you're buying in right where you would be like man they sold out they like yeah yeah this is trash was like stupid sometimes like it was annoying when like people would be like man they sold out they like yeah yeah this is trash was like stupid sometimes like it was annoying when like people would be like i liked nirvana before nevermind neverminds when they sold out or whatever but uh i i do think that's a valuable like concept to have in your culture like because you don't really hear about it anymore yeah or like change that feels a little insincere or just for the sake of keeping up with what will keep you relevant. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:45 And in the case of Taylor Swift, that argument is almost kind of like invalid because it's like when would she have even had the opportunity to sell out? Like she kind of started at that point. Right. She's definitely a creature of this trend where it's like there's no such thing as selling out because everybody's bought in. Yeah. She's been a consumer product from moment one. Yeah. But I guess, you know, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Again, I think it's like musing about like a Filet-O-Fish sandwich in a food review. Right. It's like, yo, this shit is not that complex. Right. You can just say, hey, solid pop album, pretty good. You don't have to be like, the way she softened black music, blah, blah. I thought that was so weird. I'm like, what are you saying?
Starting point is 00:44:27 You're talking about just straight up thievery. Anyway, hey, do your thing, guys. If you like Taylor Swift, good for you. I don't. Right. It sounds a lot like, you can hear the Jack Antonoff in there. The song where she talks shit about kanye sounds almost identical to uh that fun song tonight um tonight oh that's him yeah i really like that that's how i am i'm like
Starting point is 00:44:55 i'm such a i'm such an asshole yeah i know i like that song i like shake it off uh i like shake it off this this is like the thing with taylor's It's like, I don't like what she represents, but I'm going to end up getting stuck on one of the songs on this fucking album. I don't know which one it is yet. Right. But it's going to be one of them. I'm going to feel guilty as hell about it. I'm going to listen to it 500 times.
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Starting point is 00:49:47 So, as we've talked about before, all the tabloids are made by, like, one publisher. It is a guy named David Pecker, lives in New York. This is his real name. Very strange fellow. Big Donald Trump fan, and a friend of Donald Trump, so you will never see a negative
Starting point is 00:50:03 thing about Donald Trump in the pages. What a missed opportunity. I know. And only negative things about people who criticize Donald Trump. Like Hillary Clinton gets – like I think 90 percent of the time in their editorial office is spent looking for pictures of Hillary Clinton where it looks like she's like holding a sneeze in because – Yeah, they have to. Yeah. And then they'll be like, oh, that's a great photo.
Starting point is 00:50:24 Let's just make up a cover story about that. Right. So I guess one question I have for them is, where were they on all these Hollywood sex scandals? Because they always talk about how they're first to report on stuff. Right. But we didn't hear shit about kevin spacey from y'all we didn't hear anything about charlie sheen uh assaulting little boys from you
Starting point is 00:50:52 guys uh well if they're uh if they're in trump's pocket they're probably pretty uh triggered by men being out at his sexual parameters that's true that's true true. The one thing that they're actually they've been ahead of everyone else that is telling you when a celebrity is like near death. Sometimes they go a little early, but like they double down. The front pages of these tabloids is the first time I saw anybody say that Steve Jobs was dying or that Patrick Swayze was dying. Anybody say that Steve Jobs was dying or that Patrick Swayze was dying. And we unfortunately have an example of that this week with Val Kilmer. It does not look good for Val Kilmer. Apparently he is battling cancer and does not look great right now.
Starting point is 00:51:39 So that sucks. That's like the one thing we will take the Cowboys seriously. Yeah, that's a fucking bummer. They do seem to be on that shit. Dude, in Star this week, there is a sponsored ad on the cover of the magazine. There's a sponsored ad on the front? Dude, yeah. Slimfast.
Starting point is 00:51:55 See page four. Sponsored. Wow. Wow. We're not doing well over there, Star. Prince is dead, gang. Yeah. The fucking covers are just going to be ads pretty soon.
Starting point is 00:52:05 That's Pandora's box being opened right there. Yeah. Well, if anyone wants to swim fast, see page four. Okay. In Touch has a story. It is a picture of Brad Pitt and Jennifer Aniston. It says, Brad and Jen, a second chance at love. And I was like, oh, my God, they're getting back together. And everyone in the room was like, no, they're not.
Starting point is 00:52:24 That would be the only thing people were talking about if they were getting back together. Also, didn't they break up 15 years ago? It's so strange. I guess people still ship them. People are still holding a candle for them. 50% of our cultural conscience is made up of just just wanting these two to like have sex with one another like it's just yeah you could suffocate a person in all the speculative coverage exactly it's weird if they got back together what would they write about the coverage would immediately
Starting point is 00:52:56 then be like they're about to break up what if that yeah yeah it's like they're together but this is why it won't last or maybe that's like the the nail in the coffin of print that's how they can in the coffin of print. That's how they can save us all. Yeah, save us all. Just get back together, Brad and Jennifer. We've run out of topics. What were they called?
Starting point is 00:53:11 Dude, did that predate like celebrity mashup names for couples? Brenifer or Joe. Oh, whoa. Did they not? Dread? Branifer.
Starting point is 00:53:19 If you... Branifer. Dread. On YouTube, you can still see like there was like a special on Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez planning their wedding that never happened,
Starting point is 00:53:27 and it is one of the most moving pieces of television. Really? Moving in what sense? Because you're witnessing true love in action? You're witnessing true love, and you know it's going to fall apart. Oh, so it's tragic from the standpoint that you know what the ending is. Yeah, literally all they're talking about is their wedding that never
Starting point is 00:53:44 happens. It's great. God. Good for them. ending is so yeah literally all they're talking about is their wedding that never happens it's great god um good for them my osiris and someone named liam uh have apparently been married secretly uh someone before or something maybe i'm making this up it doesn't ultimately who cares um and no they were they her and liam hemsworthemsworth, the lesser known Hemsworth, they had been dating, right? They just were never wed. I think that, yeah, maybe they were engaged and then broke up and then got back together and now they're married or something like that. But they were on and off.
Starting point is 00:54:18 Just like your favorite high school couple. I know. Well, our favorite high school couple is Branifer. Brent. Brent. Bradifer. Bradifer. That's terrible.
Starting point is 00:54:30 Yeah. You know, maybe that's like, it never could have worked. Yeah. It's just not a good one. And Us Weekly announces to us in big yellow letters that Ben Affleck's lucky to be alive because he's battling an addiction. They've been saying that for a couple weeks now, right? Yeah, yeah. They've been all about that because his face is getting a little puffy. And I think he has been in and out of rehab.
Starting point is 00:54:57 Before Puff Daddy was even puffy. My favorite thing is in the Globe, a world exclusive, guys. Please put on your seatbelts, write down your emergency contact, because you may pass out when you read this news. World exclusive, Malia Obama questioned an FBI probe, Barack and Michelle's worst nightmare, all the details inside. I mean, look at this cover. She looks like a drug-dealing fucking murderer.
Starting point is 00:55:20 They've got her eyes half-closed. They've got her mid-blink, yeah. She looks like, fuck out of here, I'm Malia, do something. Okay, and then when you go in, you're like, oh my God, what kind of shit did Malia get into? It gets wild. Oh, wow, guess what? Malia Obama caught up in Weinstein's sex probe. So again, the Globe is trying to tie the Weinstein controversy to the Obamas to basically say
Starting point is 00:55:39 they're sex crime enablers or something like that. Right, and because she was a intern there over the summer and then you know despite the fact that she actually left before the stories they're saying that the fbi uh wants to grill her in a hush hush deposition as part of their quest to charge weinstein uh so again look first of all this this news has not even been reported anywhere so i don't know how the fuck they got this idea aside from from just trying to peg this. This was one of those things, I feel like they just threw darts at various buzzwords. They're like, Obama, Malia. Well, they're desperate for Malia Obama to have some sort of problem, because they've been telling stories.
Starting point is 00:56:16 Since we've been paying attention to the tabloids, they've been talking about her being out of control. Yeah, because she went to a concert, like, she was spotted smoking a funny cigarette at a music festival months ago yeah and then like in august the obama's little girl went berserk rolling on the ground in a frenzy at a chicago music fest she was at lollipalooza she's 19 years old right she went a while out of some rock music she didn't lose her mind right and also like how the fuck in my mind i think malia is probably like really works the angle that her dad is barack obama because like this is some shit only malia and sasha can say like the fbi show up they're like hey we want to talk to you malia it's like what the fuck do you want we gotta you know what do you know about harvey when it's like are you fucking kidding
Starting point is 00:56:55 my dad is fucking obama and their dad is fucking obama is the greatest she probably shouldn't use that at a nightclub they're like okay you're not 21 do you know who my fucking dad is it's obama my dad is literally obama so back the fuck off so again this is just really really great groundbreaking journalism from the globe i mean they believe it they even have an inset photo of barack obama with his finger over his mouth like shh don't be talking about wein's sex crimes, will you? And then a picture of Weinstein looking like a mob boss. Yeah, it's wild. It's wild. Good luck connecting those dots, the globe.
Starting point is 00:57:31 So, and the only claim that they have in there is that the FBI wants to question her. Yeah, not that she has been or anything like that. The desire among, quote, the FBI. And then being like, oh, they think think a quote they want to find out what she saw while working as a weinstein intern spills a washington dc source for the purpose of this article right and then they think malia has explosive information even though she resigned before the sleazy stories of weinstein sex abuse so don't try now now they're trying to drag her up in this mess like she's she on a treasure trove of information.
Starting point is 00:58:05 Was that last part in quotes from the Washington source? They think she has explosive information? Yes, that is also in quotes. So this is our favorite thing about the tabloids is that you can hear the tabloid writing, headline writing voice in the quotes from their alleged sources. in the quotes from their alleged sources. Like, nobody says shit like, they think she has explosive details about the sleazy sleazoy. It's like, no, dude, that's how you write.
Starting point is 00:58:36 That is, but they always attribute it to a Washington source. That's actually classic unnamed source rhetoric. Right, exactly. They all talk the fucking same way. Right. How you want them to, Because they're made up. But the reason we pay attention to the tabloids is because millions of people pass by them every day. So they're seeing these headlines and absorbing all this nonsense.
Starting point is 00:58:58 Yeah. Also, you know, Malia, keep your head up. Yeah. And don't snitch. You know what I mean? You know the cold of the streets. Yeah, I heard you might have some explosive information. My dad is literally obama get the fuck away from my dad is obama move i hope she's not like a bad person because i would i kind of hope if i could say that i mean it's so it would be so easy fuck if i could seriously say my dad is obama i mean first of all
Starting point is 00:59:20 i wouldn't be doing this podcast i would just be treating uber drivers so rude i mean any, any kid of a president, like, especially when they were like, if they were kids, when they were in the, like, that's gotta be so hard to be like a normal ass person after that. Well, Chelsea Clinton seems okay. She seems all right. Yeah. Jenna Bush tried stand up. You guys see?
Starting point is 00:59:37 Wait, what? No. Yeah. Oh yeah. Jenna Bush. She's dabbling. She's a, she's dabbling. Wait, she's got to hit a couple of mics.
Starting point is 00:59:44 Yeah. All right. That's ourabbling? Wait, what? She's got to hit a couple mics. Yeah. All right. That's our recommendation. Yeah. Google Jenna Bush's stand-up because that's what is going down right now. I don't want to see that. Jamie, this has been a lot of fun, as usual. Where can people follow you?
Starting point is 00:59:57 I can follow me on Twitter at HamburgerFun. You can follow my podcast on Twitter at BeckDelCast. What you guys got going on? Uh, well in, in the pipeline, we just did an episode on a super bad. That's going to come out.
Starting point is 01:00:11 And then, uh, this week we released our Shrek episode, which I've been waiting for my entire life. Wow. Very exciting. If you're a Shrek fan, if you're a Shrek,
Starting point is 01:00:20 the musical fan, it's the episode for you. What's Shrek, the musical. Just get the fuck out. I'm going to, I'm going to, dude, Shrek, the musical. It's the episode for you. What's Shrek the Musical? Just get the fuck out. I'm going to... Wait, what the fuck is that? Dude, Shrek the Musical was on Broadway.
Starting point is 01:00:29 Oh my God, Jamie just flipped over the table. Yeah, I just flipped the table. So put that knife away. No, don't try and stab me. Okay, so Shrek the Musical was on Broadway for four years, was a huge hit, won a ton of Tonys. Sutton Foster was in it. It was a huge fucking deal won a ton of Tonys. Sutton Foster was in it. It was a huge fucking deal.
Starting point is 01:00:47 Who's Sutton Foster? Sutton Foster is like, or she was at one time, like the queen of Broadway. Why was she dressing up like an ogre every night? See, I'm not in touch with Broadway, so sorry about that. Sorry to the Shrek musical heads out there. Oh, my Shrek the musical heads. Keep your head up. They're trying to force you.
Starting point is 01:01:04 Miles, I'd ask you where people can follow you, but it's not like anyone's going to want to after you asked. Yeah, seriously. Don't worry. But if you're looking to find me, you will find me probably at Jenna Bush's next stand up set because I will have to see that with my bare eyes. But if you're more interested on the social media thing, follow me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. And, you know, shout out to everybody who reaches out, because we love y'all. Yeah. You can follow me at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can follow
Starting point is 01:01:30 us at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a fan page that is The Daily Zeitgeist. You can follow us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. And we have a web page called DailyZeitgeist.com where you can find our footnotes.
Starting point is 01:01:49 Footnotes. Of just every source that we have used for this conversation. You can go click on it. So if you think we're making shit up, we're not. Go click on that. Jenna Bush did stand up. Yeah, I guess that will be in our footnotes. We will have a link. If there is Go click on that. Jenna Bush did stand up. Yeah, I guess that will be in our footnotes. We will have a link.
Starting point is 01:02:06 If there is a source on that. And before we go, I just wanted to... So we feel like an episode about a week and a half ago or maybe two weeks ago, we said something in a way that implied that OxyContin was bad for you. And we did not know. We said something in a way that implied that OxyContin was the most powerful painkiller on the market. And we had a listener, Mr. Cheese, on Twitter. His handle is at Jeremy underscore Heimke.
Starting point is 01:02:36 Reach out and point out that there are many more powerful painkillers like fentanyl, opana, oxymorphone. painkillers like fentanyl, opana, oxymorphone. And the idea that OxyContin is the most powerful is actually killing people because they think, you know, fentanyl is less powerful and it's actually more powerful and people are ODing on that. So, yeah, apologies for implying that. I think, you know, this was in a story where we were pointing out that the marketing work done by Purdue helped open the floodgates for all these dangerous painkillers, which is true, but it's not the only one. Or even the most powerful, so be careful.
Starting point is 01:03:15 And that's it. Thank you to Mr. Cheese for pointing that out to us. And that's going to do it for us for this week. Season five. Yeah. Season five is in the books, folks. You're going to,
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