The Daily Zeitgeist - Balcony Breath, WhoAnon? 10.7.20

Episode Date: October 7, 2020

In episode 731, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Alex Edelman to discuss Trump's appearance at the White House, hydroxychloroquine advocates being angry, Claudia Conway whistleblowing on TikTok, ...who Qanon supporters really are, and more!FOONOTES: Trump looks like he is gasping for air Trump appears to be wincing in pain while he breathes Video: Intense Trump fan yells 'I will die for him' at Trump motorcade Dr. Fauci warns that Trump’s COVID-19 recovery could soon go into ‘reversal’ Trump video from White House Hydroxychloroquine Advocates Are Pissed Trump’s Not Taking It For COVID Twitter Thinks 15-Year-Old Claudia Conway Is The Whistleblower Of Our Time Trump says stimulus relief negotiations over until after election, pulling back from aid talks QAnon Supporters Aren’t Quite Who You Think They Are WATCH: HTIEKAL ft. Git - Birds (Official Video) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:01 Or Lacey gets it. Do it. podcasts just listen okay or lacy gets it do it hello the internet and welcome to season 154 episode 3 of their daily zeitgeist a production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness and say officially off the top fuck the coke brothers fuck fox news fuck rush limbaugh fuck Fuck Ben Shapiro. Fuck Tucker Carlson. Fuck Fondant. And fuck COVID-19 for trying to take my president from me. This might be the wildest season.
Starting point is 00:02:35 You'll die for this, man. I will die for that, man. This might be our wildest season yet. I did not see that coming. I guess I was assuming that it would get wilder and wilder as we got closer to the election, but it's out there. I mean, yeah, call this year Gene because it's just getting wilder. It is really losing the thread, but I do like that joke.
Starting point is 00:03:00 Thank you. Anytime I can evoke Gene Wilder's name, I will do it. One time, very drunk, my friends and I were doing our top five celebrities we're most attracted to. And Gene Wilder was my number two. And it really, really brought down the house. And that is what this show is now. I talk about funny things I said in my early 20s. Anyways, it is Wednesday, october 7th 2020 my name is jack o'brien aka
Starting point is 00:03:28 hey mr jack ob man play the pod for me i'm all sleepy because you drank my case of mountain dew hey mr jack ob man that's too much caffeine. You got jingle jangle corneas. Stop swallowing, dude. That is courtesy of TDZAKAs and just TDZAKAs. Ah, yes, ah, yes. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. It's Miles Gray, a.k.a. Con Gray the Machine, a.k.a. West, oh wait, no, I'm gonna say
Starting point is 00:04:08 Val Sidegun, a.k.a. Gray Zelda Ghost. Shout out to my own brain, because I'm not really on Twitter right now. We were talking a lot about West Sidegun and Conway the Machine and all that, because you know what time it is. We like old-sounding East Coast hip-hop. That's just what time it is.
Starting point is 00:04:23 And we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious and talented alex edelman hey it's alex edelman aka i've got no aka aka bananas foster wallace aka you know i don't know how many i like that one yeah yeah yeah that's pretty good that prepped a, yeah, yeah. That was pretty good. Prepped a couple. Yeah, yeah. What else I got? Let's workshop those.
Starting point is 00:04:49 No, no, I can't. I can't. Embarrassing. Embarrassing. Oh, man. What's new, man? What's new since we caught you outside of Sketch Fest and we're like, hey, you want to come on before the world ends? Yeah, that was in January. And in January, I went on a 60 day tour of the uk and
Starting point is 00:05:08 halfway and i was like nothing is gonna stop me and halfway through jenna friedman another comedian was like hey uh do you think covid's gonna hurt any of the shows in the uk and i responded with lololol you mean that virus in Europe? And then two days later I was like yeah, I've got to cancel all of my shit. It went really quick and I was really I'm an American. That never happens
Starting point is 00:05:36 to me. So since then I've just been hunkering down. I made an online Passover Seder with some people. Oh, wow. That's for real. did you make anything? no it was like a video we made 3.5 million dollars
Starting point is 00:05:54 for a COVID relief oh fuck we made this thing called Saturday Night Seder which was like me and this dude Benj Pasek who's like an unbelievable songwriter he wrote all the music for like la la land and dear evan hansen and wow um and yeah we got a bunch of jews and non-jewish passover enthusiasts and we we made this thing and and so um yeah we moved a lot of like sketches
Starting point is 00:06:18 and original songs and shit we got like bet middler and josh groban and i don't know who else josh melina i don't know who else Josh Molina The big Joshes I was asking because I'm so hungry And I love the Seder meal I was like oh what did you bring It's really good Food but it's really hard I didn't realize that
Starting point is 00:06:40 I'm not the most religious guy in the world But I was like shit I miss I miss the uh i miss food i miss like these big religious meals where you go to someone's house and there's like so much food your eyes cross and yeah i'm like it's sukkot it's another jewish holiday right now i'm supposed to be eating outside in a hut but oh instead of scraping the cheese off of mcdonald's burger wrapper, have you guys ever heard of Sukkot?
Starting point is 00:07:07 No, this is the first is a deep cuts Jewish holiday. And basically it's the most impossible one to explain to your boss for time off. It's like, it's a week. We sit outside in a hut and he's like, how tall is the hut? And I'm like,
Starting point is 00:07:22 I mean, what a weird followup question. Yeah. The tall wood is the hut? And I'm like, I mean. What a weird follow-up question. Yeah, the tall wood is in specific. Depends how long you think a fist is. But it's like biblical logic and stuff. And you have to build this hut in your backyard. And it's why sometimes I'll drive around a big city this time of year and just see canvas huts with thatched roofs on them.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Or maybe you don't. It's Google-worthy. Yeah, you know. It's Google worthy. Yeah, I'm going to check that out. Speaking of Jenna Friedman, former Zeitgeist and is one of the writers on the new Borat movie according to Wikipedia, which is pretty dope.
Starting point is 00:07:58 Lots of crazy You can always tell your friends who are working on a Sacha Baron Cohen project because you're like, what are you working on? They're like, I canhen project because they're you're like what are you working on they're like i can't tell you and you're like ah it's sasha marion cohen congratulations i read to a friend i was like kurt what are you working on he's like can't tell you and i was like mazel tov that's so cool you know that's like when anyone goes to work for like apple in the content world and like they're like when apple tv was starting up there was just a huge suck of people leaving production companies.
Starting point is 00:08:29 And they're like, I really can't tell. I'm like, oh, you're going to Apple TV. Yeah. Well, I really can't. I'm like. And then they start aging like presidents. And you're like, ah, yes, Apple TV. They've given you some notes on your project.
Starting point is 00:08:43 Have they? Right. Yeah. Oh, an engineer gave you notes on your project, haven't they? Right. Yeah. Oh, an engineer gave you notes on your biblical drama pilot. Oh boy. Uh, and we depend on them for distribution.
Starting point is 00:08:56 So shout out to them. All of their notes. Always and everywhere. The God, shout out to them for letting me game their algorithm and putting arnold schwarzenegger as a guest on every podcast i'm on uh alex we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about uh what a time to be alive
Starting point is 00:09:20 the president pulling a full musa lean uh just walking up, just a big, big entrance to the White House, which he repeated because the camera crew didn't get it the first time. And he took his mask off, doesn't need that shit anymore because he has beat COVID with his mind. So we're going to talk about all that and uh how just how good and invincible he looked gasping for air walking up those stairs uh we're going to talk about how the uh hydroxychloroquine gang is feeling about the president uh and his strategy for fighting covid we're going to talk about claudia conway uh who has become the uh hero to uh some people at the very least a whistleblower uh shout out to her yeah uh somebody did a this is actually like a really smart poll they were like wait who who the fuck is q anon uh because we were just kind of assuming they were a big group of people
Starting point is 00:10:21 who had these uh monolithic beliefs. And so somebody actually reached out to them and not necessarily all those things. We're going to check in with Pope Francis, Pope Frank, the big Frank. We're going to talk about Trump bribing people with food, all of that, plenty more. But first, we like to ask our guest, Alex, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? I have spent a lot of time this week Googling spite houses. Spite houses. Spite houses are when somebody has a dispute with a yeah over what they're allowed to build and they build something that they don't need permission to build that is wildly impractical
Starting point is 00:11:18 but designed exclusively to annoy their neighbors like people people are not actually planning to live in these houses most of the time they're just trying to do it to block their neighbor's view they build these houses out of spite and there's one year where i grew up in boston that was um this guy inherited a patch of land that was too small to live on and so to annoy his neighbor he built a like a house that basically you couldn't like spread your arms out in but it blocked his neighbor's view yeah and so i fucking love that and i think that's so funny and cool one of the great building materials spite yeah oh yeah yeah but i like i like my search history is super random like i saw the movie the outpost last night and i like googled the battle that it's based on and
Starting point is 00:12:14 needed to know every fact about the battle and was the battle of camda and reading interviews and i couldn't find an answer for if you haven't seen the outpost here's what happens it's at the bottom of a valley surrounded by mountains on four sides in the middle of like one of the most taliban held parts of afghanistan during like you know the the early parts of operation enduring freedom whatever it was called and of course the taliban attack because that's the worst place to build a military fortress at the bottom of a valley like it's like a funnel of bullets basically and u.s soldiers although here's the thing i watch those i watch those movies and i get so caught up in those kind of movies like all my thoughts all the go out the window and just like okay I hope this
Starting point is 00:13:05 guy who's the main character survives to the end he would of course he will he was writing that letter in his bunk to his sweetheart at home it's based on a book by Jake Tapper oh is it yeah hell yeah
Starting point is 00:13:21 I've been hoping Jake will get some of those sweet residge. Yeah, man. He's got great stories, man, when you party with him. I've always said I'm looking forward to the Jake Tapper cinematic universe. Just exploring that world a little bit. What is something, Alex, that you think is overrated? I think something that's extremely overrated is um caring about what
Starting point is 00:13:48 people uh read this big thing going on right now about infinite jest about whether or not if you like no one actually no no one book is actually like a red flag unless it's like mind confidence framed on a mantelpiece like right right people are collected speeches of hitler having it on your bedside like the president did for much of the 80s i think that's a bit of a if you have any holocaust denialism and you're reading
Starting point is 00:14:15 because not great like that's not great but if you're like people are always like oh straight white man loves infinite loves infinite jest and i'm like everyone i went to nyu with loves infinite jest it's got nothing to do with whether or not you're straight or white it's whether or not you live in a place where that type of stuff is revered and like it people are always like oh i don't trust anyone who reads like ayn rand and i'm like they're a bunch of
Starting point is 00:14:40 they're a bunch of bad books that are mostly descriptions of buildings like you know right leave it alone and people who revere ayn rand i am a little skeptical of revering something and the different though right right yeah yeah but there's one thing yeah you'd like you peek into a see what's going on in the dorm party real quick you're like oh there's some noise coming from that dorm room you look and you're like oh this is fucked up in here and you close the door it's like reading those books you're like let me see what this is about and you get through you're like okay fuck no but i'm glad i had that experience i read the fountain head but i was also like yeah it's uh it's wrong i didn't like it you know like the moral of the book is uh not correct you know i was i was it was easy for me to to parse, but I was like, I wasn't aware that I had to throw it away now unless some person I meet at a bar thinks it's a red flag.
Starting point is 00:15:33 I mean, my girlfriend, I have a girlfriend, and she lives in the same house as the book, and she seems to have no problem. The difference is sort of like saying you've read something but or being evangelical about something too like the second you start being like oh you gotta read ayn rand or something like that then you can maybe begin to have those takes but otherwise it's you know like it that's like people if they define me based on the movies i saw you'd think i don't fuck all about anything which i i really don't but but don't judge me off my movies i recommend books to people based on one thing i read a book and i'm like hey i read this book and i had fun reading the book you should read the book i'm never like hey you have a problem with depression you should read 10 things to not give a fuck about you know like yeah right that's not how it works it's just like i if i i
Starting point is 00:16:25 read a book called the orphan master son it's a novel set in north korea it won the pulitzer prize and i recommend the book not because i'm like pushing some intellectual agenda it's just like a fun book you should read this fun book you know i don't i don't get any i don't get any other approach to books other than that it's very weird weird. It's overrated. That's also kind of a flex. The Orphan Master's Son, the fact that you even know that book exists and won a Pulitzer Prize is pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:16:53 That says a lot about you, bro. It's on my bookshelf. It's got the sticker on the front. I didn't have to do a shitload of research. That's embossed on it. What can you tell me about the book? It's about North Korea.
Starting point is 00:17:06 The cover is white and red and it won the Pulitzer Prize for fiction because of the shiny silver sticker on the front. check out the big brain on Alex. Oh,
Starting point is 00:17:15 wait, what's it about? Oh, I don't know. I didn't read it, but I'm telling you based on what I can tell, it's about North Korea
Starting point is 00:17:21 and it won a Pulitzer Prize and I'm kind of, I'm digging the jacket art. There is one book that I have on my shelf called All the Light We Cannot See. And it apparently won the Pulitzer Prize. And I have tried to open it like 10 times and I can't get more than two pages in. I don't know why. It's just like one of those.
Starting point is 00:17:38 I don't know. I like to read. Screw you guys. That's it. Wow. And I have books like that too, where it's like a subject that I love. And then I'm like, I start getting mad at the author i'm like you're doing too much with all you're getting way too wordy about something very simple so 100 or whoever the author is i don't
Starting point is 00:17:53 and that's when like those are typically the books i start getting like i start like rage quitting on because i'm like they're gonna say some fucking phrase i hate again and like they did it and i'm like i gotta go i gotta go i can't do this reading a book in a pandemic now is a totally different experience like i was reading i was reading a book a novel and this guy had like a half page description of like you know of like no you know of breakfast i'm not kidding he's like so the same assertion through structure allows us warm mornings banana fragrance to meander and repossess the kitchen tape i'm like in a pandemic can't there just be a version where it's like he ate breakfast like i think that should be the whole we're all
Starting point is 00:18:35 way too exhausted for that time's moving slow enough that i don't need to read a fucking five word description on the first bite of a bacon sandwich yes people are really recommending moby dick again they're like oh you got to read it it's like and it is a an amazing masterpiece but he goes for fucking i think a hundred pages on the description of like a whale whales anatomy yes he has got a whole chapter on why people draw whales incorrectly. And you're like, really? Is that? It's sort of addictive. Or it's sort of like you get the enthusiasm is transmissible. I love the book.
Starting point is 00:19:15 I wrote my thesis in college on Moby Dick. I love Moby Dick. So that's a flex. That's a flex. That is a flex and a half. But you know what? that's a flex. That's a flex. I'm very, that is a flex and a half. But you know what? Like it's a fun book. That's the only,
Starting point is 00:19:28 like the only reason I can read it is like, it is fun. It's a fun read. If a book isn't, it should be like movies. If a book isn't fun, it shouldn't belong. Like I'm,
Starting point is 00:19:38 I'm a big, big believer. Like a book needs to be entertaining and rollicking and enjoyable because a person is sitting down to do you know like yeah sorry i feel very embarrassed at how i'm just like you know all right professor what's something you think is underrated something i think is underrated is uh i'm going through my first country music phase rated is uh i'm going through my first country music phase in my in my life and i'm like oh shit no one ever told me some of this was good yeah you know most of it is very bad it's like it's like ice hockey where i'm just like ice hockey is extremely good but nobody cool likes
Starting point is 00:20:19 it so it's um so no one ever pays attention but But but yeah, I've been listening to some country. Here's what started what started me on country music is I was putting together a playlist for a friend of the dumbest country music songs I'd ever heard because there are some really bad ones. There's a Brad Paisley LL Cool J song called Accidental Racist. Oh, yeah. Which is accidentally extremely racist. Right. song called accidental racist oh yeah which is accidentally extremely racist right and then i was i put on twitter i was like what are the dumbest country music songs someone wrote all of them and i was like that can't be right there must be some good ones and so i started to listen and now like i'm way into the the artist formerly known as the dixie chicks i'm way into the
Starting point is 00:21:01 chicks right now like i'm that yeah some country Like, I'm... Some country music is... I'd say some country music is extremely underrated. I like... I'm enjoying country music. The Chicks in particular. I will check it out. What's a deep-cut Chicks track? There's a song that they have that I love called There's Your Trouble, but I also
Starting point is 00:21:20 like Wide Open Spaces and Cowboy Take Me Away, which are two big... Gotta love that one. I love like my favorite song at the moment is called cowboy. Take me away. Cause I just want a cowboy to take me away, but it is really, I need fun right now.
Starting point is 00:21:37 That's what I need. I need, I don't want to think anymore. I don't want, you know, I feel like Elliot Smith every day. I don't want to, I don't want to listen to him as well like i just i want some light entertainment and a song about a red solo
Starting point is 00:21:52 cup is just enough for me at the moment elliot smith was a huge uh garth brooks fan uh was he really no i don't know i'm just uh i know i I played basketball. That's awesome. And he was just really sick at it and dunked on people. He played dirty basketball, according to a Ben Fold song that has a lyric that's about Elliot. He goes, Elliot, man, you played some fine guitar and some dirty basketball.
Starting point is 00:22:20 Hell yeah. Sharp elbows. What's a myth myth what's something people think is true you know to be false or vice versa okay um i genuinely think that uh piranhas can't possibly be as dangerous as people say they are yeah they can't possibly be as dangerous because all the stuff that i thought was dangerous when i was a kid like quicksand and leeches i was gonna say it fits in with the quicksand thing where it just can't be that bad and it's one of those things where i've done zero
Starting point is 00:22:57 googling but also i'm watching that nexiumM doc on HBO, The Vow. And I don't believe that people don't know they're in a cult, like, immediately. Because that's the number one question I ask whenever I opt into anything. Even if it's, like, CBS Rewards. I'm like, is this a cult? Like, you know, if I walk into Chipotle, I'm like, is this a cult? And then they're in a thing, like, led red led by like a charismatic leader who is reclusive and like any anything that tries to get you to move to upstate new york is a fucking cult so like i've watched i've been watching this series and i'm like i
Starting point is 00:23:36 don't believe that i don't believe for a second that like 10 years in people were like wait this might be a cult right yeah we have to pay all of our money and provide secrets as collateral might be a cult. Like, yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't buy. I don't buy that people do it. No right away. Yeah. But, but they got me sleeping good again and I'm doing yoga now.
Starting point is 00:23:58 It's a good trade off. I don't know what it is. Have you seen Jack? Have you seen the value yet? I have not. No. Yeah. It's, it's seen The Valiant? I have not, no. It's interesting. I mean, yes, it's very long. It's extremely long, but it's, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:24:15 I suppose it's worthwhile. But yeah, it's about a cult. I think the Piranha thing is a good one too because I feel like everybody has now realized that Quicksand doesn't exist, but piranhas, I think still get the respect of like, they will skeletonize anything if you just like dip it in the water for five
Starting point is 00:24:36 seconds. But, uh, that was apparent that comes from a Teddy Roosevelt book. Like he, before he was president and even while he was president, he was like a famous nature like writer and the locals in brazil like captured a bunch of piranhas starved them and then dropped a dead cow in and they skeletonized it after after a while and
Starting point is 00:25:00 because teddy roosevelt was a messy bitch who loves drama, he was like, it was just a skeleton in mere moments. That's wild. Teddy Roosevelt is our only president with a tattoo. Is that true? Yeah. He had a chest tattoo of the Rough Riders or something like that. Like he's such a badass. And the best thing about this pandemic,
Starting point is 00:25:21 or the only good thing for me about this pandemic has been, I've gone to a bunch of like national parks and stuff. And so I'm like, I'm very psyched about Teddy Roosevelt. I'm sure. I'm sure there's going to be some, someone who's going to reach out after hearing this podcast, be like,
Starting point is 00:25:37 actually he did a bunch of war crimes or something, but I'm like, yeah, I think that's probably true. That's probably true that's probably true yeah i mean you can't be an american you're not an american president you're like dude he was so chill he never did anything wrong and he uplifted every country during his time yeah his life is like a good rollicking read it's a it's fun to read about but um yeah also wildly problematic
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Starting point is 00:30:33 And he took the helicopter back, triumphantly walked to the top of... Two flights. Two flights of stairs to the Truman balcony, saluted the helicopter, just looking like a just a a man uh an invincible uh superhuman in his oh yeah yeah look like jean gray dark phoenix so powerful unbelievable the the power of this being uh and as president struggles mcshortbreath
Starting point is 00:31:03 made his way up there and then honestly first of all like so many things came out of that first one he just went hey i'm covid posse but mask off y'all and i'm gonna just take these deep ass breaths off this balcony it was like really something else to watch him struggle with his breath like some people like oh no he's struggling to breathe but i'm also kind of like dude that dude's so out of shape that looks like a lot of people going up two flights of stairs and trying to act like that shit didn't just gas them up or gas them out but i it was a little weird to see though it was it was like it was one of those things where you're like you didn't need to do all this part you didn't have to do
Starting point is 00:31:41 this you could have just done if you were purely about like the optical illusion of projecting strength you could have just went back to the white house and left it there but you had to take that extra bite and then that's when everyone's like okay well yeah the memes will start at the very least it was high dictator it was like an act of high mussolini like he really just it was poorly wrought but the intent was clear he should have used the body double like genuinely like when i saw when i saw him going up the going up the stairs i was like very the thing is like i don't like him i don't wish any good for him but like watching it i was like oh oh man like be careful like you're gonna you know right they should have just they should have used stock footage they should have used old footage like i don't think any more of them after seeing him
Starting point is 00:32:37 being like we needed to see you climbing a flight of stairs no one i think trump sets low bars for people because his bar is so low like that's why it like the bar he set for joe biden before the first debate was like joe biden's demented i'm like well that seems like a low bar to set right right you know same thing he's like hey man climbing a flight of stairs that's the bar you know like that's big success crushed it don't worry about how how uh sort of taxing it was on me physically to get here but i did that part so it's all to the good but we are really on a roller coaster ride right now because he is like coming off of the steroid uh treatment that you know
Starting point is 00:33:20 everybody who has undergone it says it like is a real boost of energy. But eventually you crash. And so we're just kind of we're waiting to see where he goes, like ride this thing all the way to the bottom. That like post arrival thing where he was like recorded his statement after the triumphant flight conquering of stairs. He did not even sound like himself. It was really strange. He looked like Mr. Burns after one of those longevity treatments he had in that episode where everyone thought he was an alien
Starting point is 00:33:53 and his eyes are all like, and just like, you know, I'm here about love. His tone of voice was, I'm just going to play a clip because that entire sort of statement he made caused so many headlines and experts being like, okay, he's setting us back like literally 500 years by saying shit like this. And just pay a little attention to his tone of voice. Like,
Starting point is 00:34:17 that's what really caught me. I just left Walter Reed Medical Center, and it's really something very special. The doctors, the nurses, the first responders. And I learned so much about coronavirus. And one thing that's for certain, don't let it dominate you. Don't be afraid of it. That sounds like somebody with COVID who did so much cocaine in the bathroom and just came out. It's yeah hey man it's all good it's like a flu man and also i might be immune i don't know man i don't know about y'all but the way i'm feeling i've never felt better in my life it's his voice sounds like it sounded like he was doing a christopher walk-in in person like i gotta tell you about coronavirus like it was he's speaking
Starting point is 00:35:02 in a different part of his throat there's a big part of me that's like what is the end game here i'm pretending it's like not a big deal like what actually is can one person explain to me what like boris johnson downplayed it and then he got it and then his his address after he came out of the hospital was like hey this is a really serious disease we're taking it really seriously thanks to all the nurses and doctors. Saved my life. A little bump for the healthcare system. Like, thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:35:30 I'm going to – and it, like, did well for him. Even, like, lefties like me were like, okay, like, good for you for at least acknowledging the reality of what's – but, like, what is the endgame of being, like, it's not that big – like, it is – you can say that you're sick and that it that you have the flu bush had the flu obama got like people get sick it's right i don't know it is yeah i'm trying to think of the comedic performance that it's reminding me of where they're just like they've painted themselves into a corner so hard and they're just like ignoring something it's tobias in arrested development when he got the hair plugs and they were killing him
Starting point is 00:36:11 and all he could focus on was his fucking hair this motherfucker was dying but i think you're right and he's like it's all good get me in my wheelchair take me to the event like it really feels it really feels like he's speaking a different part like with a different part of his body because like his first responders he's like leaving that ers yeah and dr fauci is just going full like i guess i'll just tell the truth here. Even Dr. Fauci just said that Trump's COVID-19 recovery could soon go into reverse. You know, he's saying don't spike the football at the two yard line. Get that shit past the fucking goal line and then you can celebrate because you are not there yet, sir. I think what most experts were saying and just sort of this fear of, you know, how accelerated this timeline and sort of you know,
Starting point is 00:37:09 the proclamation of recovery has been, this feels like he's spiking the football at the two yard line, like right where he just got the kickoff, like, and then he ran two yards and then spiked the football. His own two yard line. Right. His own two yard.
Starting point is 00:37:21 Right. He caught it in the end zone. He knelt and then he spiked the football. You guys maybe covered this on a previous Zeitgeist, but when Chris Wallace was questioning that Trump campaign spokesman about why no one at the debate was wearing masks, and- I don't think we have. We didn't get into that specific clip, but yeah, when he's like, you broke the rules. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:43 They broke the rules. Chris Wallace was like, hey, why weren't you wearing a mask? And he's like you broke the rules yeah like the rules right chris wallace was like hey why were you wearing a mask and he's like oh we don't need to wear masks and chris wallace was like no but like the rules said you need to wear masks why like rules that's one thing where i'm like i would be nice to not forget that it'd be nice to just grab that for posterity yeah i think that's like the thing with that's what the president offers his supporters right is this idea that you can be completely toxically mediocre and destructive and if you blur your eyes enough it can look like success and the fact that he's the president and he just blows his shit like i don't need a mask mask. Whatever, fuck it. I got the COVID. Y'all don't know.
Starting point is 00:38:25 I'm immune. Fuck with me. It's actually just like, it's giving them, all of his supporters, all of his acolytes, the people around him, an excuse to not examine their own shortcomings and actually just lean into their worst ideas and impulses because they're like, well, look at President Trump. He's fucking, he's doing it.
Starting point is 00:38:42 He's rich. He's the president. And it's not that they want to be exactly like him but it's just like offering this like rationale or this ability to completely ignore your your just worst parts like sort of saying like why should i consider people who have said i'm racist or sexist because i can be like this and be president because i am completely unwilling to change and i think the deal is it's that the greatest power that the president offers anybody who supports him is this idea that you can, to the very end, deny that your own actions cause your downfall.
Starting point is 00:39:14 That's really what it boils down to. Because no matter what it is, it's not the policy. It's an accountability thing. Yeah. It's this idea that it's not me. It's everything else. It's not me. It's everything else. It's not me. It's everything else. And I think what would be the most uncomfortable thing for somebody who's so entrenched in that kind of thinking to do is for a moment say, could it be me? Could it be my
Starting point is 00:39:35 outlook? Could it be my actions that's got me in this position? Because most people do and they evolve a bit after that, but these people do not. And that's what you can see because every time we get to this logical endpoint, it's like, no, bust through that. It's like, no, he's not sick. He's invincible. It's because anything else would – like if at a certain point they said, oh, yeah, that was all bad. He should have thought about it. That's a very small number of his supporters. supporters you know and like that gives no comfort to those who just want to completely have no accountability or they don't want to factor in their own actions to in terms of like
Starting point is 00:40:09 what the outcomes are for their own life yeah yeah well said based on based on the polling which we don't want to take too much stock in but just overall movements of polls it seems like there aren't enough of those people even though it's uh the majority of his base there aren't enough of the people who and this is working on yeah right yeah jack what is the poll what are the what is the exact polling or what i opened up a 16 point lead nationally yeah biden basically doubled his uh lead, according to some polls, or it stayed the same. So it's like some people say it doubled, some people say it stayed about the same. So it's somewhere in between those. like double digits for Biden, which that had always been a toss up. That was the thing that gave everybody pause when saying that Trump was in bad shape is that he was still doing pretty well in some of the swing states, or at least in that realm where things could go either way.
Starting point is 00:41:18 And now some of those swing states that are absolutely necessary for him to win are getting into the realm of if this was anybody else we would be like oh that that's a wrap but because you know he is who he is and he's a cult personality and they're invalidating votes and willing to openly cheat and can get away with that and because we just don't know because because 2016 happened, I think people are still being very, very cautious. And I think which's illustrated by this lead in polling. I think that Trump will have to this might sound crazy. I think people watching the debate did not like the fact that Trump was a real piece of shit. you know saying that he's pulling his attack ads and you know and wishing for the president's recovery and and being essentially a pretty decent guy that folks don't like to see like assaulted while he's trying to offer policy like i actually think trump is going to have to try to toe the line decency wise i don't know if it's within his realm i don't know if it's within the
Starting point is 00:42:44 realm of possibility but like i love that biden got a sympathy bump when when trump got sick like that is right that is what is essentially happening and i don't know again i don't know yeah it's just a theory i could be could be completely way off base but like i have a couple friends who are like legit republicans who live in you know live in, in places that are not like, you know, New York and Los Angeles. And I asked them what they thought of the debate. And I swear to God,
Starting point is 00:43:10 like two people had the same thing, which was like, I thought Trump was like pretty mean to Joe Biden. And I was like, yeah, where have you been for the last like six years where there's a Wikipedia page dedicated to the cruel nicknames that he gives to people.
Starting point is 00:43:22 But like people don't like seeing someone be shitty to Joe Biden. I really think that's true. And like guys have been through a lot and had, you know? Yeah. So I also feel like there's just a general like exhaustion. Like, obviously we feel it because,
Starting point is 00:43:38 or at least I feel it because I pay attention to Twitter and it's just like constant and relentless. And every time you think it's like reached its logical conclusion, like it just, he breaks through that wall and goes like lower and more upsetting and more racist. But I feel like just ambiently, there's a lot of people in the country who are just exhausted by having to
Starting point is 00:44:04 pay attention to, to this or just having, having this much chaos. And like, I feel like the debate crystallize that. And the fact that he has turned his catching COVID into yet another escalation will probably eventually crystallize that for people. The wildest shit though, to me is that we went from trump being like yo you need to check joe biden's pistol i think he coming in here
Starting point is 00:44:32 on some shit this motherfucker literally might come in on some steroids like on peds or uh d deds debate enhancement drugs uh because if he comes through on that, like Mr. Burns longevity treatment shit, I don't know what that debate is going to look like. But I have a feeling he's probably on the low, like, yo, I got to get that shit before the debate, fam. Like I was I was I was in my zone when I had that that those steroids or whatever. those steroids or whatever. I don't know. There's just like a lot. I can see just how he's from the reports of him trying to escape the hospital or like his insistence that he knows more than the doctors.
Starting point is 00:45:11 Like we're quickly arriving at this point where somebody's gonna have to take something out of his hands and be like, no, I'm sorry. No, we can't do this. You can't do that. This is too much now,
Starting point is 00:45:20 but I don't know. It's, it's like, everyone's still confused, but then there's infighting even between his family. We're like Don Jr. And Eric want to intervention, but Ivanka is know it's it's like everyone's still confused but then there's infighting even between his family we're like don jr and eric want to intervention but ivanka's like keep it going it's just it's it's chaotic but i can see the footage miles you know what the footage from the hospital made me want i wanted to see like a sort of like mtv cribs about the presidential
Starting point is 00:45:42 suite at walter reed i was like that's not supposed to be the focus, but all these facilities, really nice. Nice. And that would have saved somebody's life because the reason that he went on that joyride with the Secret Service and the hermetically sealed SUV was because he was bored of watching his coverage on TV without him being featured in it.
Starting point is 00:46:04 So he was like, I got to get out there and like, you know, do something fun. But if they had just let him do a cribs, that would have been great. Was it not like, and like,
Starting point is 00:46:15 the ratings would have been through the roof. There was something morbid about that moment where he was at the balcony and couldn't was, you know, he was taking those deep breaths but it like had this like very like narrative quality to it of like uh yeah he shouldn't he shouldn't have done that that's not if you're writing a story that's like the the setup move uh for their hubris i mean the entire party's really in that rose garden this is the cough into the handkerchief
Starting point is 00:46:44 and the slow pull it away from your mouth and it's like a little bit of blood a little bit of blood on it yeah if anyone in a movie ever coughs you're like oh shit that guy's done oh fuck yeah dude did you see rudy on coughing the shit just coughing it up on fox the other day no oh my do you see rudy patting himself down coughing and then rubbing it on the person next to him? That was a while ago. Man, that guy's the unsafest man in America.
Starting point is 00:47:11 If Rudy Giuliani gets it, all of New York City has it. He is really, really, really gross with his COVID etiquette. If I was in a restaurant and that dude was in the corner, I'd leave. I can't deal with watching Rudy Giuliani, his behavior, and the way he coughs, and the way he touches people around him.
Starting point is 00:47:33 It gives me anxiety. It's like one of those things I always see as a kid is an old man with a handkerchief, and they're getting snot all over it. And they just put that shit in their pocket. I'm like, oh, my man. You didn't even fold that shit you're just sliding it straight oh that's what i feel like rudy giuliani's energy is that shitty snotty handkerchief right next to that where there is that they're gonna offer you a little later on yeah exactly um the hydroxychloroquine uh evangelist trump has chosen not to partake uh presumably to save it for the rest of us who are more in need but um people are people are confused oh yeah yeah i mean stella emmanuel
Starting point is 00:48:16 who was the doctor who was out front like out in front of a hospital saying we have the cure it's hydroxychloroquine everybody can go home and like the liberal media is just lying to you uh she said whoever told the president to stop taking hcq should be punched in the face this did not have to happen i'm so upset uh so people are you know what what is going on this is but again this is what we're talking about right like when you follow this man to the letter and he's so impulsive and nothing he says he means and he's only you know guided by his own desires yeah you're gonna start off being like yes he's talking about our thing and then when it comes down to it being like okay so this president has this disease um we're gonna give them like real treatments, not this other weird shit that he was screaming about.
Starting point is 00:49:09 You now have this entire group of people who believed everything, who almost like they're having trouble believing. Like, would the president lie, though? But I thought he was using it. So Stella Emanuel saying someone should be punched in the face. Great professional opinion. Dennis Prager. Prager prager you this man also he's saying quote the president was the one who recommended it to begin with you'd think something would have been said isn't that the obvious question everybody would have i actually went to prager you i uh PragerU alum I went undergrad at Trump Yeah I went undergrad at Trump University
Starting point is 00:49:47 And then I got my Master's at PragerU Sorry mom Master's at NYU Ph.D. at PragerU And then another hydroxychloroquine evangelist Steve Yalasevich I think is his name
Starting point is 00:50:04 He was basically telling on his weird Webs, LifeSite News, telling his readers, quote, contact the White House to ask why the president and Melania are not immediately given this well-proven in practice medication protocol for COVID infection. And so their whole shit is melting down right now. And you hate to see it. I really want to do that and just have someone be like i can't believe we forgot that like oh my god like yeah we were we talked about it wait did someone it's like one of those commercials they're like ask your doctor you know provasic is right for you and you're just like well he he'll know
Starting point is 00:50:40 right he's a doctor right he'll know a probate would be like, insist to the death that Hydrocox-Coroquit is. Right, right, right. If you're a huge fan of Trump and the level that some of these emojis... I would die for that man. Yeah, if you're that person, how do you keep track of all of the conspiracy theories
Starting point is 00:51:02 and things that you love that he's putting it because every day it's just like a new thing it must be exhausting at the end of the day you just you're really just there i think again for the reinforcement that you don't really need to do much self and like don't be too introspective about anything but miles there is stuff that's there that's like oh shit so okay so what do i like i like um i like hobby lobby i like my pillow and i like um oh fuck what hydroxychloroquine like it's just a long day this i have to pretend to enjoy the music of joy via and the comedy of diamond and silk like how many things do you have to stand if you're a Donald Trump guy? Like it must be really difficult. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:48 Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, that's like when I was a big Pharrell fan and I had to, you know, buy more Dickies and independent truck T-shirts and, you know, studded belts. I got over it pretty quickly, though. But there was yeah, there was a there was a couple there were 24 months in there. It was real touch and go. Pharrell. How many hats
Starting point is 00:52:05 Do you think Pharrell moved During that two year phase Oh like those NERD trucker hats I had to buy a bootleg one downtown No the giant Oh those Vivian Westwood ones Yeah Oh I mean he set off, what started as a meme
Starting point is 00:52:21 Ended up being the whole Look I don't know the power of this man he may be a time traveler with big hats i don't know he may be here to troll us and then get us to do all kinds of shit uh but yeah i i remember immediately because at the time i was just coming out of like rap radio in la so a lot of people were like you know some shit like that someone in music was doing a fashion thing you would would see that trend enter the office within two months or a month. And there were a lot of big hat wannabes, but they didn't have the Vivian Westwood nice ones.
Starting point is 00:52:51 So they were coming in looking like unemployed Canadian Mounties and shit. Right. Like, yo, so you got the wild brown felt hut, but to each their own. It wouldn't be surprising to me if that was a bit, that he was just like uh his satire on fashion because it is a wild choice he is it turned it turned people's wardrobe into a cartoon
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Starting point is 00:57:39 trending. People were saying she's the whistleblower of our time she's also it's a lot to put on a 15 year old yeah don't do that yeah but her speculation on that trump is not doing well health-wise like could easily be just speculation like based on her seeing the same shit that we're seeing and i feel like people are taking it as like she knows something um yeah i mean imagine of just a thought experiment for everyone listening imagine when you were 15 the shit that you said out loud now imagine if you had a million followers on tiktok who are going to be like yo break us off with that shit a 15
Starting point is 00:58:25 year old gassed up on their own ego and access to whatever the thing is is not a good combination i told somebody i was a sean john model so i could make out in a club in saint louis missouri in 2001 okay shit like this is not dude we don't you can't take everything as as the gospel truth so i look at this i'm like hold on 15 year old with all this attention i mean yes i think it's an interesting glimpse into it but like to take it like for fact i'm a little bit i'm reminded of my own 15 year old shitheadedness and like what my relationship to my parents was like at the time although what a terrible what terrible parenting it's so funny it's like it's it looks it looks genuinely like you wouldn't believe it in a cartoon if she's like tweeting like
Starting point is 00:59:12 the nuclear codes are seven five eight four three and they're like young lady you are grounded for tweeting like it really really genuinely is uh it's scary it's scary to watch and i also don't understand how like it's i feel bad for kelly and conway sometimes i'm like man you're trying to be evil and lying and your kid is like hey my mom's an evil liar and you just have to pretend that that's not existing in your house like you have to work you have to work for donald trump and you have to live with someone who hates your guts like what is the more unpleasant environment that you have you know that you've been in for the last you know however many years like this girl is i feel awful for the whole situation yeah i mean there's also like a really dark undercurrent where she's trying to become
Starting point is 01:00:05 emancipated from her parents. And she says, you know, it's because of trauma and abuse that she grew up with. And like, there's, it's all very like nonspecific. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:00:16 It's very, very dark shit that like, and now she's being thrown more and more into the spotlight. She moves in with her new parents, with her new dad hunter vibin right there it is shit that's the drama we deserve the thing is like it this whole thing is playing out like like you're like back when i was on facebook like some family beef you would see play out on facebook except it's of national interest it's the same level of messiness
Starting point is 01:00:43 pettiness you're like oh no this they should not be doing all this, especially not on here. But magnify that by hundreds of millions now. And I just can't help but like feel like I don't know what is real. I don't know how bad her situation is with her parents. I can only imagine if you know what that relationship is like. But it's like sucks when you're 15. I'm like, at the end of the day, I know it's going to be, it's not going to be easy for Claudia Conway after this, or I don't know, maybe she's living her best life, but I have a feeling.
Starting point is 01:01:14 I don't know either, but like parents owe some shit to their kids. Like you can't, you know, and Claudia Conway is like, I don't want to be, you know, I don't want my mom to be Kelly Ann Conway. Like, I don't want my mom to have to be, you know, basically the mouthpiece for for someone who I think is she tweets all the time that Donald Trump is like a lying, irresponsible piece of shit. And like, this is a 15 year old who's just basically like, you're not fulfilling your, you know, your duty to me as as a parent i just like i i didn't know that she was trying to get a man's bed i didn't know she wanted a divorce but like that really really seems there that's such a stressful clip uh that like latest clip where like she's in bed like with her you can hear her mom's like and you're gonna lie to your about your mother about fucking covid and she's like low-key recording and it's like oh i'm like yeah no no
Starting point is 01:02:10 i'm taking notes that was no the best part was when she basically jujitsu's her own mom and she goes oh i i'm sorry i just that was my interpretation of it right how sure she was like that's some shit you say mom i got that one from you and now i'm using it against you it's like are you filming are you taping me again yeah the whole thing is just it's a lot but uh yeah she apparently in a way we are sealing we are probably seeing the most real portrait of people who work for this president through this tiktok right um speaking of nuclear codes one of uh at least one of the people who carries the nuclear football for the president uh has tested positive for covet 19 so that is something that you know where this kind of farcical real world satire of america in decline meets the actual reality of that satire
Starting point is 01:03:08 being the actual president of the United States. I feel like Putin is even like, whoa! Like that? Alright, I mean, fuck it, but cool. I'll get it how I can, but whoa! Whoa!
Starting point is 01:03:22 This thing really blew up. This is a great part of Trump's you know three-dimensional chess or ten-dimensional chess against Putin where he's like let's make it such an impenetrable shit show that even a spy inside the administration
Starting point is 01:03:37 with all the information just can't do anything we're just like people are sick things have to change like people like real talk people have been saying like oh you know like i don't want the president to die wink wink but like it is seriously really really not good for a nation for its like sitting leader to like die and it's also like not good for a nation for everybody in the cabinet to like fall ill with the plague and like the fact that the dude holding the like most sensitive information in the united states like
Starting point is 01:04:12 is may genuinely be like ill with something that could that could kill them like i don't think people comprehend how bad it is like i don't know maybe herman kaneain can comment but it's not good for this many important people in governmental structure to be sick I didn't know that about the government yikes, I don't know Trump has announced that
Starting point is 01:04:38 now that he has gotten to know COVID on a one-to-one personal level uh he will not be extending any more uh covid 19 benefits to the american people uh before the election and instead we'll be focusing on uh getting acb through the uh approval process so um he gets it now. He knows that all you need is just strong constitution and
Starting point is 01:05:11 lopsided Supreme Court bench to be able to argue his way to that point and be like, remember me, please. Please. Jack, what are the odds of both the House and the senate flipping democrat like if the election were to does there is there any sense of what would happen you know
Starting point is 01:05:31 i mean i pay way too much attention to 538 and i think they i think they are saying that it's 60 something percent that the democrats will control the senate at this uh after this election wow yeah which is weird because most people are like i think that's 2022 or 2024 at best but right when you have this level of chaos like it's apparently waking some people up but yeah it's yeah it's a lot it's again it's like so hard to know because who like if those if the presidential votes are invalidated how many of these gop senators are also going to claim fuckery in their races too and that's i mean even with like the president passing away if he's still in office the idea that like what they would do after
Starting point is 01:06:23 deciding about who runs if it's going to be p, there's so many decisions that have to be made in a party where like no one is at the wheel except for like greed and racism that I can only imagine how much more chaos I would add if this were to if something were to happen before the election. Sure. So how long does a like I know that there are like people who did crystal meth who are like, yeah, I was up for like weeks at a time and like just never slept. And then once I crashed, you know, I slept for a week. But how long does when people are talking about their steroid like induced mania, how long do they say that usually lasts for? Do we know that? It'd be interesting to see and we also have uh that poll of q anon that basically finds that a lot of the people who
Starting point is 01:07:16 claim to subscribe to the q anon cult are not like do or die uh q anon people they're not fully in right like you know because there's so many like like core beliefs about it like where most people just been like oh you fuck with q anon and that was the only polling that was done and someone's like we need to we need to then pull those people who respond in the affirmative even further to understand like what is the belief systems that these people had and they said in in this research among like so when they identified q supporters the highest polling statement that they agreed to was that quote democrat politicians and hollywood stars are part of a global network that tortures and sexually abuses children in satanic rituals 62 of the supporters rated that statement as definitely or probably true.
Starting point is 01:08:07 Which seems like the closest to reality, like sex abuse. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What do you mean the closest to reality? Well, there's a basis for that. I think in general, there's an issue with human trafficking and sex abuse that if you're looking very desperately, there's enough there to say like, I'll take that part and I'll fill in the rest about satanic rituals and this global network and stuff.
Starting point is 01:08:32 Because what mostly is going on is like these sort of just top line stories. And then using that to feed like a larger narrative to sort of keep this idea of this satanic ritual. I don't, I don't understand. I I've never understood q anon i've never i asked someone who believes in it not a friend i've asked someone who believes in it about it and they said um that yeah the democrats and and hollywood people get their get drugs from
Starting point is 01:09:01 the terror of children and use it to stay young and i'm like isn't that like monsters inc i'm like monsters incorporated that it's like that they i i don't i totally don't get it that's the one thing where i'm like how many q anon people are there actually and like is there anyone credible and are they organized like i i don't know. That feels like. So they wanted to go even further. Right. Because like that whole thing about the harvesting adrenochrome from children thing that pulled
Starting point is 01:09:33 at about 54 percent of the people who said they believed in it were like, that's probably true. Forty four percent of QAnon supporters only thought it was probably true that Trump was preparing mass arrests and Mueller was secretly ordered by trump to investigate pedophiles which was like the foundational myth right isn't that the main thing yeah right the whole thing is like don't worry about muller it's the storm there's actually it's a smoke screen to round up all the pedophiles and there will be executions and obama is in a war crimes tribunal with hillary clinton that this that and the other um so when they when they dug a little bit deeper, they were realizing that some people would tend to overstate their level of belief because they would say, quote, this is from this thing, a large number of QAnon supporters, it turned out, were rating as true statements that they were encountering for the first time.
Starting point is 01:10:21 So it was just almost like, oh, yeah, uh-huh cool i'm i'm with that the global network statement only pulled at 38 when they actually took out people who had never heard of it before right so when you like boil that down that's 38 of this like smaller thing it's a little bit i mean not to say that it's not a real thing but it's interesting to see like the level of like how widespread the actual beliefs are where some people like yeah i vibe with that sentiment because it helps me like it helps explain whatever this worldview i have is but then a lot of people just sort of reflect to be like oh you said that uh-huh so there are people who just believe that there's something fucked up and they're not sure what like it's like idiots who don't believe that
Starting point is 01:11:03 we landed on the moon it's like right it's like people who are just like oh i don't know i believe that we landed i just believe that the tape was fake right that's what i'm saying that's another brand of moon landing denial that i've seen it's like no it's just that tape though i believe we got there it's just that first one they just did that because they needed that you know can you imagine if the first moon landing was fake but like the fourth wasn't and they're like nobody pays any attention we're just like no this is impressive because this is the first time we've actually gone golfing you know or or i like that it's so hypothetical that once they get up there they had it all fucked up and they're like yo this is not what it's like at all bro like that first one that we taped it is not like the reality part so
Starting point is 01:11:44 either we're going to have to not show anybody up here anymore, or we're going to have to come clean about that first one being a fail. It turns out the cameras didn't work, and there are lots of trees here, man. Like, there are way more trees than we... First camera to get the trees.
Starting point is 01:11:59 Shit. Anyways, that's all really interesting new information. I think that QAnon is probably not worth Anyways, that's all really interesting new information. I think that QAnon is probably not worth spending a lot of time thinking about as a representative voting bloc of the country necessarily, but more as a terror organization that could really harm people. Because there's that guy outside of the hospital
Starting point is 01:12:27 when the president did his little COVID drive-by where C-SPAN just happened to catch this guy. They didn't even show his face. Can you play that clip, actually? God bless our president! I will die for him!
Starting point is 01:12:44 I will die for that man, happily! I will die for him. I will die for that man happily. I will die for him. Anybody want to mess with him, you mess with me first. He is a hero that man. God bless America. God bless you guys. God bless. God bless the police. God bless you guys. God bless. Thank you. Was it one of the Secret Service agents who was in the car with him? It's like, I will die for that man.
Starting point is 01:13:13 That man? I'm gonna die for him. You don't understand. I'm basically that guy jumping in front of Kennedy after he got his head blown off. I will die for this. In the process of dying for this man for that man yeah um yeah i mean i like on the one hand that's just some random dude on the street who was already uh you know uh holding a vigil outside of hospital exactly so he's all right he's not
Starting point is 01:13:40 necessarily the most representative like random selection of human beings, but it only takes a handful of people to do something really scary. So I'm just, you know, Alex Jones, early on in the presidency when people were talking about the potential impeachment of Trump was like, they try and take him away from us. We will make the streets run red. When these people tell us that they will kill us for trying to vote Trump out of office or get Trump out of office, I think we should take that seriously or at least believe those specific people. I definitely won't be dismissive, but also that man's energy in that clip no you would not die for that president sir you did not sound like somebody who would die for fucking anything but you know i get it you got the camera there you're a little gassed up you're on tv you want to act like you're you know fucking og maga gang but uh yeah but either way there are
Starting point is 01:14:40 plenty of q anon supporters plenty of extremists that have demonstrated that capacity for things like that so yeah it's a roll up on a place with assault rifles um and then when they realize that the uh there's no basement uh pedophile uh child smuggling scheme let alone no basement uh at all they'll just be like oh i've made a horrible mistake that's that story is like one of the most amazing the guy who like brought the gun to pizza and like was willing to like once he saw with his own eyes that it wasn't happening like he thought he was like oh man right i really got egg on my face on this one guys damn it uh damn it my the guys on the message board are really gonna have a laugh this time yeah uh anyways uh super producer
Starting point is 01:15:33 anahosnia uh sent me apparently after steroids are discontinued depressive symptoms persist approximately four weeks mania three weeks delirium a few days uh approximately one half of patients with steroid psychosis and proven four days and one half within two weeks but i i'm still we'll look into how long this run of steroids he'll be a clip of him working out in the gym right i'm telling you there's this is where we're headed right he? He did that. I feel like he's going to have some bad ideas that people are in. As we speak, they're like, no, we cannot pay Usain Bolt to dress up like you for a long shot where it looks like you're running so fast you're running past the motorcade. We just can't do that. And it just doesn't work.
Starting point is 01:16:23 He's like, fine. But if you got Stone Cold Steve Austin and I give him the stunner, and then they Rose Garden, that would be fucking lit. I don't know. I'm not saying that the president's on steroids, but he had 72 home runs this year. Alex, it's been a pleasure having you, man. Where can people find you, follow you um i'm on instagram and twitter uh my twitter handles at alex edelman and my instagram handles at the alex edelman and
Starting point is 01:16:55 i've got an album out a comedy album called until now and this may not be uh up today but it'll be up soon i'm actually i'm not gonna i'm not sure if i'm allowed it'll be up soon. I'm actually, I'm not gonna, I'm not sure if I'm allowed to talk about that yet, but I'm putting together some, I'm putting together something political. But yeah. Coming.
Starting point is 01:17:12 Stay tuned. Yeah. Stay tuned. Wait for that Q drop. Wait for that Q drop. Claudia, Conway's TikTok. Everything will be announced.
Starting point is 01:17:20 But yeah, I've got an album and, and I love this podcast. So people, you know, I'm no Jamie Loftus but I do that means a lot thanks guys thanks so much for having me is there a tweet or some other work
Starting point is 01:17:34 of social media you've been enjoying the one tweet that I have really loved I'm just thinking of well there have been so many but one that I really loved from Daniel Kibblesmith it's like one of those sort of no one I'm just thinking of, well, there have been so many, but one that I really loved from Daniel Kibblesmith. It's like one of those sort of no one formats. It was Claudia Conway, two years from now.
Starting point is 01:17:54 Hey, guess whose skull this is? But it made me laugh because like, yeah, this girl's, this girl's on the inside, but yeah. Thanks so much for having me uh miles where can people find you what's tweet you've been enjoying oh man twitter instagram at miles of gray and also the other podcast 420 day fiance with sophie alexandra you know just spread in the gospel of reality trash uh tweet i like the first one i just saw and i'm just gonna call it
Starting point is 01:18:25 out because i don't have the emotional fortitude to keep scrolling my phone so i will say this one from andrew t uh he says it seems wild to me that baron has no interest in that claudia conway clout uh he could he could definitely do something i mean he would he could have a fucker off-white sneaker and shit this could be you Baron Yeah seriously Fashion icon The dude is like 6'6 now Somebody should draft him Somebody should check if he's on PEDs man
Starting point is 01:18:54 Has anyone heard him speak ever? Nah I think that's probably Let's leave that boy alone It's gotta be Leave that boy alone I It's got to be. Leave that boy alone. I can't imagine going to school at all. We talk about Kellyanne Conway fucking up your life as her teenage daughter.
Starting point is 01:19:17 Imagine being, yeah. I know some people who are related to people who maybe don't have the best reputations. And their lives aren't that great. And they live kind of in this, like, bizarro shadow that is very hard to shake. And so, you know. Anyway, shout out to Clout Chasers. A couple tweets I've been enjoying. Mr. Skeleton Bones at Hello Cullen tweeted thatweeted that video of Trump kind of like gasping,
Starting point is 01:19:47 but trying to pretend he isn't gasping and saying, me in high school pretending the blunt I just hit isn't giving me the biggest asthma attack of my life, which I could fully identify with. I saw a couple of those. And then at DeadDonaldTrump tweeted, I'm dead in hell. No regrets. Great place. Fabulous. The hottest.
Starting point is 01:20:11 And then Sarah Lazarus tweeted, just fell out of a 50th story window and so far so good. Feels like flying. Don't be afraid of falling out of windows. Oh boy. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien.
Starting point is 01:20:28 You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song we ride out on miles what are we riding out on today uh another one of uh lakeith stanfield's rap tracks hell yeah his three songs it's so interesting he's kind of trying to show people like i've got range i can
Starting point is 01:20:59 spit bars i can do the cutting thing i can do a a little more like laid back rapping. This track's called Birds by Lakeith Stanfield. And yeah, it's just, I think for anybody who aspires to make music, let this man energize you because he's clearly been having a good time. So, you know, for all the underground rappers who have a hard drive full of tracks they haven't released, release them. Release the tracks. All right. We are going to ride out on that.
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